Nice Godwin. Besides this, CL has done something really heroic by making it possible to cross the Atlantic. Now, this doesn't compensate the other unrelated issues you mention and this doesn't make you, neither the GP heroes for taking the risk of arguing on Slashdot;)
Guantanamo is outside of the US, so it's not officially under US juridiction. So it's not illegal to detain these people there even if it's indeed a concentration camp for deported war prisoner, except that the Geneva Convention is not respected there.
Some newspaper actually let you access all of their online articles using a code they send you when you subscribe to their paper edition. I think this is the most interesting way to develop this : it helps the paper edition to survive while adding value to the subscription.
Why do you say he's crazy ? Because of his opinions ? Lemme ask you one think: The guy is intelligent : That's a fact. He says controversial things. People call him crazy because of such things. Don't you think what he says should be analyzed before concluding he's crazy ? I for one didn't (I don't even know what the man said, BTW). I don't know what he claimed but this might have been quite spectacular otherwise he'd still be around : crazy people don't happen to be hunted like he's been.
ACBM publishes Pirates Mag which also describes such exploits. They once had to postpone one publications for a long time because they deontologically refuse to publish some story concerning a product that would not be patched. Now it was supposed to help others to protect similar products.
Europe will adopt these patents but first they have to force its population to adopt its corporation-helping constitution as any change will require 100% of its countries to vote for. I'm afraid we're stuck.:(
1) it's a past tendency 2) if you want someone you live with to materially survive you, it's anything but easy to make it look like an accident so that she won't feel guilty and the insurance will give her something to live on.
Cher Maître, I think the web is defacto organized so that it's really difficult to find such info. Cf my answer to the AC above : I browsed the newsgroup he mentioned and found a compilation which was sometime really funny but never REALISTIC. I'm actually happy, now, I have great opportunities and the hard brainstorming I had made me focus on ways to dynamise my life by adding much variety to it. And I think sad people should participate to a Choir, yes, singing is something that really helps.
Yes... and no: I found this which indeed describe methods which are "uncertain" or "really painful" when the device would be "easy to obtain". So, no. Some people want a quiet, quick, untraceable way to die, not something such as:
==plants in general (hemlock, foxglove, oleander)
Dosage: N/A Time: N/A Available: garden centre Certainty: questionable Notes: [1] says: "Everything I have ever read about death from plant poisoning indicates that it is risky and painful. Symptoms range from nausea and vomiting to cramping and bloody diarrhea....... Altogether, I consider poisonous plants as a means of exit far too unreliable and painful. No matter how desperate you are, don't even think about it!"
And the list doesn't contain something you'd expect, most of the possible methods are way to uncertain, painful or obvious.
Anyway I'm amazed that your post got modded informative : not that it isn't but because of the story itself : Slashdot: where people got upmodded for telling people how to suicide in a story that is about forbiding to tell it.:-D
Dear Cryptnotic: I was refering to this "Ad Absurdum Reductio" that I made: yelling "I want to die", starving, pushing my body to its extremities. And then realise that it made it produce endorphins... pleasure. I was feeling good. Apathy is what's bad. Meet the depressed, shake them, force them to do sport. Make them aware of what body they are into and how stupid it'd be to waste it.
I'm sorry you took it out of its context. I agree I might be difficult to understand, being a non-native speaker. Anyway, your anger fell 4 months too late but I accept it as a "moment d'egarement". Be strong:)
I'm sorry for you. I don't want to advocate your sister but having been through that I'd say that I felt really alone. I felt I needed some change. The most obvious one would have been to die. At the last minute, after 2 weeks of starvation (didn't it but drank a lot... Champagne and Vodka/Martini were a bargain because of the approaching end of year) I decided to make it an Ad Absurdum Reductio. If I were to meet your sister at the time she needed it, I'd sugegst she'd do it, but not as at a psychiatrist : you don't want to make it whle resting on a sofa, with some prozac to alter your perception. You want it to be painful, you want it to be like vomit. Tell the things you don't mean, tell the things that hurt (but warn the people that'll hear you before that you tell things you don't especially mean but that you have to throw up). At ther end of the day, you'l feel more indulgent. I can't believe I write this song.
Some people actually want to commit suicide a quiet way. I had a deep depression last winter and actively looked for such info but could not find some. If I were to look again, I think I'd offer one $ more than the fine amount to the one who'd help me.
BSDI 2.1 (vanilla) IS vulnerable BSDI 2.1 (K210-021,K210-022,K210-024) NOT vulnerable BSDI 3.0 NOT vulnerable Digital UNIX 4.0 NOT vulnerable FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE IS vulnerable FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE IS vulnerable FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE IS vulnerable FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT IS vulnerable HP-UX 10.20 IS vulnerable IRIX 6.2 NOT vulnerable Linux 2.0.30 NOT vulnerable Linux 2.0.32 NOT vulnerable MacOS 8.0 IS vulnerable (TCP/IP stack crashed) NetBSD 1.2 IS vulnerable NeXTSTEP 3.0 IS vulnerable NeXTSTEp 3.1 IS vulnerable Novell 4.11 NOT vulnerable OpenBSD 2.1 IS vulnerable OpenBSD 2.2 (Oct31) NOT vulnerable SCO OpenServer 5.0.4 NOT vulnerable Solaris 2.5.1 IS vulnerable (conflicting reports) SunOS 4.1.4 IS vulnerable Windows 95 (vanilla) IS vulnerable Windows 95 + Winsock 2 + VIPUPD.EXE IS vulnerable
No, I can't say I am that worried: I know there is more possible causes for cancer which are not radiation-related than the opposite. Look at all the chemicals you eat, drink or breath everyday. Look at the stress that urban life induces. Frankly, I don't see why I should die from a radiation exposure whereas I spent most Sat. evenings actively dancing (thus gasping even more) drunk in smokey discos... So this story is FUDdy. They don't even answer the ultimate question, they just claim there is a dispute. Very useful.
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Nice Godwin. ;)
Besides this, CL has done something really heroic by making it possible to cross the Atlantic.
Now, this doesn't compensate the other unrelated issues you mention and this doesn't make you, neither the GP heroes for taking the risk of arguing on Slashdot
Guantanamo is outside of the US, so it's not officially under US juridiction. So it's not illegal to detain these people there even if it's indeed a concentration camp for deported war prisoner, except that the Geneva Convention is not respected there.
+1 Funny: He's a subscriber so he contradicts himself :)
Some newspaper actually let you access all of their online articles using a code they send you when you subscribe to their paper edition. I think this is the most interesting way to develop this : it helps the paper edition to survive while adding value to the subscription.
in French, though...
Why do you say he's crazy ? Because of his opinions ?
Lemme ask you one think: The guy is intelligent : That's a fact.
He says controversial things.
People call him crazy because of such things.
Don't you think what he says should be analyzed before concluding he's crazy ?
I for one didn't (I don't even know what the man said, BTW).
I don't know what he claimed but this might have been quite spectacular otherwise he'd still be around : crazy people don't happen to be hunted like he's been.
Offtopic ?
Tsssk...
It's many things but NOT Offtopic !
ACBM publishes Pirates Mag which also describes such exploits.
They once had to postpone one publications for a long time because they deontologically refuse to publish some story concerning a product that would not be patched.
Now it was supposed to help others to protect similar products.
Europe will adopt these patents but first they have to force its population to adopt its corporation-helping constitution as any change will require 100% of its countries to vote for. :(
I'm afraid we're stuck.
...and to wear gloves as finger usually get a ltitle wet or greasy, depending on your skin type.
I hope the screen is easily washable.
Yes, this might reduce the G5 costs :)
How's this an answer to my above post ?
1) it's a past tendency
2) if you want someone you live with to materially survive you, it's anything but easy to make it look like an accident so that she won't feel guilty and the insurance will give her something to live on.
The situation was much worse than just losing a job I hated but, as another AC says, /. is not a psy-couch.
On the professional side (and there were so many others) I also needed a job to stay in Switzerland and to afford the rent.
Cher Maître,
I think the web is defacto organized so that it's really difficult to find such info.
Cf my answer to the AC above : I browsed the newsgroup he mentioned and found a compilation which was sometime really funny but never REALISTIC.
I'm actually happy, now, I have great opportunities and the hard brainstorming I had made me focus on ways to dynamise my life by adding much variety to it.
And I think sad people should participate to a Choir, yes, singing is something that really helps.
I found this which indeed describe methods which are "uncertain" or "really painful" when the device would be "easy to obtain".
So, no.
Some people want a quiet, quick, untraceable way to die, not something such as:
And the list doesn't contain something you'd expect, most of the possible methods are way to uncertain, painful or obvious.
Anyway I'm amazed that your post got modded informative : not that it isn't but because of the story itself : Slashdot: where people got upmodded for telling people how to suicide in a story that is about forbiding to tell it.
Dear Cryptnotic:
:)
I was refering to this "Ad Absurdum Reductio" that I made:
yelling "I want to die", starving, pushing my body to its extremities.
And then realise that it made it produce endorphins... pleasure. I was feeling good.
Apathy is what's bad. Meet the depressed, shake them, force them to do sport. Make them aware of what body they are into and how stupid it'd be to waste it.
I'm sorry you took it out of its context.
I agree I might be difficult to understand, being a non-native speaker.
Anyway, your anger fell 4 months too late but I accept it as a "moment d'egarement".
Be strong
Fuck you and your telling that other guy that you'd help his sister by telling her how to kill herself. :)
Bless you and your inability to read.
I'm sorry for you.
I don't want to advocate your sister but having been through that I'd say that I felt really alone.
I felt I needed some change.
The most obvious one would have been to die.
At the last minute, after 2 weeks of starvation (didn't it but drank a lot... Champagne and Vodka/Martini were a bargain because of the approaching end of year) I decided to make it an Ad Absurdum Reductio.
If I were to meet your sister at the time she needed it, I'd sugegst she'd do it, but not as at a psychiatrist : you don't want to make it whle resting on a sofa, with some prozac to alter your perception. You want it to be painful, you want it to be like vomit.
Tell the things you don't mean, tell the things that hurt (but warn the people that'll hear you before that you tell things you don't especially mean but that you have to throw up).
At ther end of the day, you'l feel more indulgent.
I can't believe I write this song.
Given the replies and personal email I got, I wanted to specify something :
I wrote "I had" becase it's over.
I'm cured.
I was having a bad time: I lost a job which I actually hated, and I also considered changing my life.
I then had the following strategy : Waiting until the temperature would fall below -10C and sleep naked in my balcony.
The cold came... but too late.
I did not want to end it abruptly because I am married with a delicious woman and I wanted it to look like an accident.
Finally, I decided to perform my auto-therapy.
I am creative, you might not lik what I do but I have fun doin it.
I recorded a rock album which is described here and available (for free) here.
My advice ?
Spit the anger and the fear. You'll end fearless, stronger and alive !
God bless you.
Some people actually want to commit suicide a quiet way. I had a deep depression last winter and actively looked for such info but could not find some.
If I were to look again, I think I'd offer one $ more than the fine amount to the one who'd help me.
BSDI 2.1 (vanilla) IS vulnerable
BSDI 2.1 (K210-021,K210-022,K210-024) NOT vulnerable
BSDI 3.0 NOT vulnerable
Digital UNIX 4.0 NOT vulnerable
FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE IS vulnerable
FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE IS vulnerable
FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE IS vulnerable
FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT IS vulnerable
HP-UX 10.20 IS vulnerable
IRIX 6.2 NOT vulnerable
Linux 2.0.30 NOT vulnerable
Linux 2.0.32 NOT vulnerable
MacOS 8.0 IS vulnerable (TCP/IP stack crashed)
NetBSD 1.2 IS vulnerable
NeXTSTEP 3.0 IS vulnerable
NeXTSTEp 3.1 IS vulnerable
Novell 4.11 NOT vulnerable
OpenBSD 2.1 IS vulnerable
OpenBSD 2.2 (Oct31) NOT vulnerable
SCO OpenServer 5.0.4 NOT vulnerable
Solaris 2.5.1 IS vulnerable (conflicting reports)
SunOS 4.1.4 IS vulnerable
Windows 95 (vanilla) IS vulnerable
Windows 95 + Winsock 2 + VIPUPD.EXE IS vulnerable
Are only Windows platform vulnerable or will these attacks be successful on other non-ms platforms ?
No, I can't say I am that worried: I know there is more possible causes for cancer which are not radiation-related than the opposite.
Look at all the chemicals you eat, drink or breath everyday.
Look at the stress that urban life induces.
Frankly, I don't see why I should die from a radiation exposure whereas I spent most Sat. evenings actively dancing (thus gasping even more) drunk in smokey discos...
So this story is FUDdy. They don't even answer the ultimate question, they just claim there is a dispute. Very useful.
Is there more radiation emanating from my cellphone or from the rest of the city ?
Is it safe ?