There have been times in my life when I'd happily reply to that email.
Then leave. Seriously if you do not want to be there the company will not want you there either. Why force yourself something you and your employer do not want to do and for what purpose?
If you made mistakes (I have in the past) where you have a question past or might be labeled a job hopper by HR than that is on you. Life is short
Look at it this way. Work is a relationship if you ask a psychologist. Humans have relationships to groups too and not just individuals that meet each others needs. So like a bad gf dump.
Sleep issues are not Mozilla related and a bug with RTM. I know patches get bashed here but for a bleeding edge beta Windows 10 it should be required as it will take a few months for it to bake.
Sleep issues and video should be addressed in the latest rollup patch that came out yesterday.
This debate is very very old because no one likes the solution.
The problem is it is not the 1990s where you could drop one browser for another and no one is ever 6 months old anymore etc.
Solution is frankly it is not up to you to tell a user which browser you support. Half of your job is to work around ancient bugs from the turn of the century. If you do not teach students this they will be fired when the client demands it because the customers will blame your site and go to a competitor.
Yes XP is the problem it most certainly IS BROKE by almost every margin. It's browser is not W3C compliant. Corporations use IE because of GPO support and IE 8 is the denominator between XP & 7 so it is what they standardized on. If the client can't view your page right they wonder what kind of school is this??
Refusing XP support would be ideal as modern IE or the new MS Edge browser is W3C compliant. IE 11 is ok. Not horrible or great but ok.
50% of the job is doing work arounds for specific versions of IE for any web developer and trying to use flash and other tools to redo the HMTL 5 features missing in browsers such as IE 7.
Learning IE 6, 7, and 8 specific feautres and hacks are essential for any web developer or at least were just a few years ago when I wanted to start a web based business. IE 8 is still the worlds most popular browser thanks to corporations afraid of change and grandma.
However, I will say this may not be the case for long:-)
W3C is still not implemented yet thanks to corporate apps, China, and ignorant users who refuse to let XP behind
Who cares about keeping your skillset current, learning docker, SSH over Powershell & RDP, non-admin read only VM's, and other things. It is not like Windows 7 will go EOL in just 4 short years! Companies typically upgrade their domains and even server infrastructure too when upgrading the client OS. Ours just went to 2008 R2 back in 2013 during the Windows 7 migration and retired Server2003 AD/forests and kept just a few 2k3 boxes around.
I can tell you right now WIndows 10 most certainly is NOT great! I went back to Windows 8.1 because it works... yes with a start menu replacement it is ok. YIKES Vista was not this bad
Folks one thing WIndows 10 has going for it that is very revolutionary ahead of Linux or close to be being tied are cloud and profile integration and development tools. For example I can sync my IE settings, desktop wallpaper, saved passwords, app purchases, and more from my Surface and vice versa with my desktop. OneNote and Word have the same files since it uses OneDrive by default. Yes, it is bashed here HEY MS I DO NOT WANT A HOTMAIL ACCOUNT!! but man it is nice not to sync.... actually this functionality is crippled in Windows 10 compared to 8.1 due to meeting the release date:-(
VS 2015 can make Android, CLANG, Python, and limited Mono apps for Linux. It's code editor for VS 2016 is free and even runs on Linux if you do a google for MS Code?
Powershell has some strong features with DSC desired state configuration and different levels of security and piping objects over the dated Bash shell popular in Linux. Rumor has it MS is going to port Powershell to gnome. This will be an interesting flamewar read when it comes stable and is linked here on Slashdot:-)
Now Windows 10 at the time of this 8-9-15? SUCKS! Unstable, rushed, and unusable on my machine. It is WindowsME 2.0 as of right now. Edge does not even freaking have Chrome plugins as it was not finished. Placeholders missing in Onedrive is a killer feature as I do not want to remember where my files are saved. I just like opening Excel and selecing my file after a fresh image. Try that with Linux?
What Linux has going? A TON more hacks and tools and scripts in php and other things under the sun. I predict once Redstone 10.1 comes out by Thanksgiving and VS 2015 which is now free stabilizes it will be a very competitive system to Linux for a lot of users.
I think what I meant was should government get involved forcing companies to stop it. Realistically how many people would do this? Shoot 96% do not know what a root is on a phone.
Yes it would mean Android and 10 won't be free anymore but where do we stop?
Windows is not the darn enemy thanks to Google and I am sure Apple does the same thing. How do you know Chrome doesn't do the same even if you do not open the browser but have Google Update service on?
FYI it is not an MS standard but an Intel one which is a good thing to prevent rootkits. Anyone can sign a bootloader. FYI I left Linux for good for the desktop back in 2011 with Gnome 3 and the introduction of WIndows 7. Linux to me is a good VM.
Those that blast Windows 10 as the anti christ and how they are never going to use... all from the comfort of their Google Chrome browser on their Google Android phones..
This is not a Android bash but just pointing out the obvious. The real question is the answer to this. As much as many here who are libertarian do you think it is time for laws to prohibit this? The free market appearently is too small to care about this.
Let's say Putin or the next Hitler comes and wants to spy on political opponents? Well it is known all these companies and phone and operating system makers have this data. Use NSA or governmental force and their oprivate keys and now you haqve what you need. Any opposition will be monitored. Kind of scary but I do not think it is too out of the realm of possibilities.
Oh, give it a fucking break..... Mainframes will always be around for people who actually do work. Not everyone will be a pc stuff only person.
And don't even try the retarded argument that you can do serious work on a PC or Mac. You can ride across the country on a tricycle too., Not that anyone would want to do that.
I miss my Nokia greatly and my experience with my galaxy 5s has been awful! Unstable, slow, buggy, and needs restoring. Hmm isn't that the viewpoint of Windows phone here? I bet some have not used Windows since windows 98 and think it's still true today... OK Windows 10 rivals Windows ME right in terms of bugs bUT that is the exception.
On your wife's Nokia try pinning inboxes and contacts? Notice how much easier it is to cut and paste for things like a bridge phone number and pin code together? On my Android I need to write down on a piece of paper the pin code as it halts and freezes and you go back and forth between email and the dialer. TouchWiz aka lagwhiz turned me off.
I am a little prejudice as my galaxy s1 became unusable with a 30 second wait to open the contact list after a year had me laughed at work. I switched to Windows phone 8 and would still use it if I didn't drop it
Just reimaged 3rd time and 10 is still trying to install. I think if this is true it and Ms is doing forced upgrades after July 24th for those who said no on new images it will be a revolt
I just did 2 new Windows 8.1 images and ran WIndows update. It keeps forcing 10 shitware on me! I tried creating and cancelling a reservation and it still tries to open WIndows update automatically to install.
No matter what everytime I reboot WIndows update keeps popping up trying to install Windows 10 automatically.
I guess if you imaged a PC before July 24th you were fine. UGH.
Do not bother upgrading folks if what you have works fine unless you have a pyschotic episode with the flat look of 8.1 and can't find classic start.
There are many many bugs. Items do not fill in properly in menus. Adhock wifi not available, disjointed tiles in TV and music, Edge crashing, Edge having no extensions, poor battery life on the surface pro 3, One drive not having placeholders, Grove not having select all on playlists,.NET 4.6 JIT tail bug where arguments get scrambled, and many many others in just the first few days reported
This reminds me 0f XP. Yes, XP pre - SP1. XP was not considered God by users and IT departments in 2001. It was buggy and had compatibility and network probloems before SP1 and SP 2 was where it finally got somewhat solid.
Windows 10 has an unfinished and baked feel. It won't touch my systems until Redstone update 1 something later this fall... or maybe next summer as I see it more as just hittting beta now as MS rushed this.
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There have been times in my life when I'd happily reply to that email.
Then leave. Seriously if you do not want to be there the company will not want you there either. Why force yourself something you and your employer do not want to do and for what purpose?
If you made mistakes (I have in the past) where you have a question past or might be labeled a job hopper by HR than that is on you. Life is short
Look at it this way. Work is a relationship if you ask a psychologist. Humans have relationships to groups too and not just individuals that meet each others needs. So like a bad gf dump.
I meant Windows patches. Windows 10 RTM had bugs like you described
Did you install the latest patch this weekend?
Sleep issues are not Mozilla related and a bug with RTM. I know patches get bashed here but for a bleeding edge beta Windows 10 it should be required as it will take a few months for it to bake.
Sleep issues and video should be addressed in the latest rollup patch that came out yesterday.
This debate is very very old because no one likes the solution.
The problem is it is not the 1990s where you could drop one browser for another and no one is ever 6 months old anymore etc.
Solution is frankly it is not up to you to tell a user which browser you support. Half of your job is to work around ancient bugs from the turn of the century. If you do not teach students this they will be fired when the client demands it because the customers will blame your site and go to a competitor.
Yes XP is the problem it most certainly IS BROKE by almost every margin. It's browser is not W3C compliant. Corporations use IE because of GPO support and IE 8 is the denominator between XP & 7 so it is what they standardized on. If the client can't view your page right they wonder what kind of school is this??
Refusing XP support would be ideal as modern IE or the new MS Edge browser is W3C compliant. IE 11 is ok. Not horrible or great but ok.
You would also need a different server license for each old version of IE to emulate
50% of the job is doing work arounds for specific versions of IE for any web developer and trying to use flash and other tools to redo the HMTL 5 features missing in browsers such as IE 7.
Learning IE 6, 7, and 8 specific feautres and hacks are essential for any web developer or at least were just a few years ago when I wanted to start a web based business. IE 8 is still the worlds most popular browser thanks to corporations afraid of change and grandma.
However, I will say this may not be the case for long :-)
W3C is still not implemented yet thanks to corporate apps, China, and ignorant users who refuse to let XP behind
It can still get on via angler malware kit. The type from yahoo.
It is run only from ram making it impossible to block or detect.
That is a very misinformed post
SSH too will be on Powershell and RDP.
I will even go as far as saying it is a REQUIREMENT for any bank or hospital who values security.
Yep
Who cares about keeping your skillset current, learning docker, SSH over Powershell & RDP, non-admin read only VM's, and other things. It is not like Windows 7 will go EOL in just 4 short years! Companies typically upgrade their domains and even server infrastructure too when upgrading the client OS. Ours just went to 2008 R2 back in 2013 during the Windows 7 migration and retired Server2003 AD/forests and kept just a few 2k3 boxes around.
I can tell you right now WIndows 10 most certainly is NOT great! I went back to Windows 8.1 because it works ... yes with a start menu replacement it is ok. YIKES Vista was not this bad
Folks one thing WIndows 10 has going for it that is very revolutionary ahead of Linux or close to be being tied are cloud and profile integration and development tools. For example I can sync my IE settings, desktop wallpaper, saved passwords, app purchases, and more from my Surface and vice versa with my desktop. OneNote and Word have the same files since it uses OneDrive by default. Yes, it is bashed here HEY MS I DO NOT WANT A HOTMAIL ACCOUNT!! but man it is nice not to sync. ... actually this functionality is crippled in Windows 10 compared to 8.1 due to meeting the release date :-(
VS 2015 can make Android, CLANG, Python, and limited Mono apps for Linux. It's code editor for VS 2016 is free and even runs on Linux if you do a google for MS Code?
Powershell has some strong features with DSC desired state configuration and different levels of security and piping objects over the dated Bash shell popular in Linux. Rumor has it MS is going to port Powershell to gnome. This will be an interesting flamewar read when it comes stable and is linked here on Slashdot :-)
Now Windows 10 at the time of this 8-9-15? SUCKS! Unstable, rushed, and unusable on my machine. It is WindowsME 2.0 as of right now. Edge does not even freaking have Chrome plugins as it was not finished. Placeholders missing in Onedrive is a killer feature as I do not want to remember where my files are saved. I just like opening Excel and selecing my file after a fresh image. Try that with Linux?
What Linux has going? A TON more hacks and tools and scripts in php and other things under the sun. I predict once Redstone 10.1 comes out by Thanksgiving and VS 2015 which is now free stabilizes it will be a very competitive system to Linux for a lot of users.
I think what I meant was should government get involved forcing companies to stop it. Realistically how many people would do this? Shoot 96% do not know what a root is on a phone.
Yes it would mean Android and 10 won't be free anymore but where do we stop?
Windows is not the darn enemy thanks to Google and I am sure Apple does the same thing. How do you know Chrome doesn't do the same even if you do not open the browser but have Google Update service on?
I thought it was pronounced GNU/Linux ... ducks
Linux and FreeBSD both support secure Boot.
FYI it is not an MS standard but an Intel one which is a good thing to prevent rootkits. Anyone can sign a bootloader. FYI I left Linux for good for the desktop back in 2011 with Gnome 3 and the introduction of WIndows 7. Linux to me is a good VM.
... and I just read there are 2 out of 100 and probably 4 million+ Vista users. Still more market share in 2015 than Linux
Those that blast Windows 10 as the anti christ and how they are never going to use ... all from the comfort of their Google Chrome browser on their Google Android phones..
This is not a Android bash but just pointing out the obvious. The real question is the answer to this. As much as many here who are libertarian do you think it is time for laws to prohibit this? The free market appearently is too small to care about this.
Let's say Putin or the next Hitler comes and wants to spy on political opponents? Well it is known all these companies and phone and operating system makers have this data. Use NSA or governmental force and their oprivate keys and now you haqve what you need. Any opposition will be monitored. Kind of scary but I do not think it is too out of the realm of possibilities.
Oh, give it a fucking break. ....
Mainframes will always be around for people who actually do work. Not everyone will be a pc stuff only person.
And don't even try the retarded argument that you can do serious work on a PC or Mac. You can ride across the country on a tricycle too., Not that anyone would want to do that.
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I miss my Nokia greatly and my experience with my galaxy 5s has been awful! Unstable, slow, buggy, and needs restoring. Hmm isn't that the viewpoint of Windows phone here? I bet some have not used Windows since windows 98 and think it's still true today ... OK Windows 10 rivals Windows ME right in terms of bugs bUT that is the exception.
On your wife's Nokia try pinning inboxes and contacts? Notice how much easier it is to cut and paste for things like a bridge phone number and pin code together? On my Android I need to write down on a piece of paper the pin code as it halts and freezes and you go back and forth between email and the dialer. TouchWiz aka lagwhiz turned me off.
I am a little prejudice as my galaxy s1 became unusable with a 30 second wait to open the contact list after a year had me laughed at work. I switched to Windows phone 8 and would still use it if I didn't drop it
Thanks. I will give it a try.
Just reimaged 3rd time and 10 is still trying to install. I think if this is true it and Ms is doing forced upgrades after July 24th for those who said no on new images it will be a revolt
I just did 2 new Windows 8.1 images and ran WIndows update. It keeps forcing 10 shitware on me! I tried creating and cancelling a reservation and it still tries to open WIndows update automatically to install.
No matter what everytime I reboot WIndows update keeps popping up trying to install Windows 10 automatically.
I guess if you imaged a PC before July 24th you were fine. UGH.
Carrys on with stable 8.1
Others disagree with your assertion of 10.
It is very beta compared to 8.1
Do not bother upgrading folks if what you have works fine unless you have a pyschotic episode with the flat look of 8.1 and can't find classic start.
There are many many bugs. Items do not fill in properly in menus. Adhock wifi not available, disjointed tiles in TV and music, Edge crashing, Edge having no extensions, poor battery life on the surface pro 3, One drive not having placeholders, Grove not having select all on playlists, .NET 4.6 JIT tail bug where arguments get scrambled, and many many others in just the first few days reported
This reminds me 0f XP. Yes, XP pre - SP1. XP was not considered God by users and IT departments in 2001. It was buggy and had compatibility and network probloems before SP1 and SP 2 was where it finally got somewhat solid.
Windows 10 has an unfinished and baked feel. It won't touch my systems until Redstone update 1 something later this fall ... or maybe next summer as I see it more as just hittting beta now as MS rushed this.
It is installed by default in VS