What you described depends on the party-to-party licensing agreement. It is 100% between those two parties what to put in there. No laws force anything.
Except when your product uses fonts, touch, has a battery, etc
Now your at mercy with the monopolist who says pay @$2,000,000,000 or else! So you must sign the agreement or else pay the fine and have an injunction on your product. Thats not fair as in essence this was not an agreement but forced action.
Apple is staying making money. Just off suing people instead even if the sales of iPhones are going down.
China is in a recession right now with only 5% growth! I know in the US that is considered 1999 days, but for China it causes many to save cash as they are more used to 15% per year growth.
No we are paying for it and all the competitors. A licensing agreement has clauses saying you will pay even if they are invalidated and they can sue you for billions if you violate it etc.
It should be illegal but money can buy a lot of things if you are rich and powerful including laws, favors, and corrution.
As much as I rag on Apple they should get a refund from the Patent Office, and something for their trouble.
The Patent office should not hand out patents then take them back. It should have never been issued and their fees should at least be refunded. The examiner who granted this as some serious explaining to do.
Nope and if you are competitor you still have to pay Apple for patents they no longer own. After all you agreed to it out of court right?
So when you purchase a galaxy S that cost $250 to make for $699 you can rest assured Apple and CEOs of these shady IP companies like Intellectual ventures are stealing your money.
Worse how many still have to Apple for patents they no longer own due to licensing agreements?
Doesn't matter if they were invalidated if you agreed Apple can sue if you do not pay each month etc.
Next time you pay $699 for a Galaxy 4 S that cost $250 to make be happy you are paying Apple and other millionaires who invested in these rotten companies.
Right so providing excellent service is a no no and I should expect a complaint from a VP?
What about her needs and mine here? The boss is always right even when she is not yours just like the customer. Thats part of the problem and why IT gets no respect qnd is viewed as a cost. Quiting was the right thing to do.
If I and my other former cowrokers were there a password reset would be done by noon. 130 employees can be managed part time for someone experienced easily.
I do not tolerate poor performance in this economy when anyone can be replaced. If sales were lost due to a week of no email then the beancounter needs to be fired. People shoyld read Larry Wingets "It is called work for a reason?"
Really depends on what the users are. If you have 1300 "students" good luck with 2 IT people having time to do anything other than protect the network from a bunch of maladaptive little freaks. If you have 1300 12 O'Clock flashers, good luck getting them to do anything other than clean infections off the desktop fleet.
Also, if you have lax controls on anything you can expect support man hours to balloon; a desktop that is locked down and doesn't allow the uber retards to install bonzai buddy or whatever trojan laden "free" shit is available today requires about 20 mins a year of maintenance. I knew one user that used 10 years of maintenance a month, every month, at least. They could have fired her and me and saved the company 2 salaries.
Oh get this shit! All the users were local admins on top of that workload! Cries...
Then you clean the viruses and then some MBA jerk says "Billly Gates, it has been a week! Are you going to fucking fix my computer or what?!... Me: Sorry cleaning virus infections of angry pigs that someone with local admin rights installed on the shared drive...
MBA: What?! Are you going to come clean it or not me: Let me clear with my boss Boss: No go clean the machines! MBA: Billy I am going to call you by the hour until it is done...
Anyway, offtopic here and venting. My original point is sometimes people with lax IT culture get away with shit like 2 users for 130 people?! If I dealt with this shit with 2.5 users, and a 700 user refresh, plug virus outbreak with local admin users, and regular IT, all for $14/hr with no overtime, then I think some I.T. folks need to get their butts in gear.
For those in my situation. QUIT! Life is too short and you are part of the problem if you put up with such poor service. I was just as incompetent too by agreeing to have such limited resources.
If more IT requires more IT work then it brings a greater productivity and pays for itself.
I had 10x the same workload with a similar response time, in which I fired myself for as I found this disgusting and incompetent towards the users. I was also paid 40% less than those who came earlier when the beancounters did not keep cutting the budgets for the same workload too which angered me and caused my resignation.
Still a week for a password reset should have heads roll. I rolled my own as a truly competent employee would not work for such a company with that poor of service.
You are correct I couldn't handle it and I thought it was a rotten thing to do the users. 2.5 per 130 vs 1300 is a 10x workload difference!
I left also because the other guys got paid 50% more and had benefits and they paid me as a temp but let me handle the same workload. I was told regardless of my stats the beancounters so no value in I.T. so that is all I would ever make. After being reprimanded for doing something another department was supposed to do because a VP needed a solution now!! I gave my 2 weeks out of anger.
I fired myself so to speak because that is not acceptable in my own standards.
Sure, IT's the bottleneck. Why? Because users who roll their own solution without understanding what they're creating will create a fragile business model.
Andy Accountant decides to do General Ledger on Quickbooks, while Polly Payables decides to do billing on the bank's web server. How does one update the other? It starts out as a manual process. But let's say Polly is clever and signs up for IFTTT.com to automate the integration. She also hands the task of entering the bills over to Carlos Clerical. Later, when Polly is on vacation, Andy downloads an upgrade to Quickbooks - but IFTTT was set up only to modify the original Quickbooks. Now Polly's billing doesn't work, and Carlos has no idea what's going on. Polly is the only support person, but she's on vacation. Andy only knows about the manual processes, so he can't help Carlos. So the bills don't get paid.
And the IT guy only knows about the PCs, the printers, the network, and the file server. He doesn't know about the apps, because the users got tired of waiting for him and rolled their own.
Repeat this scene for each and every system, service, and person involved with computers in the organization. It starts out easy and fast, but the dependencies quickly crust over every activity the company performs. Support becomes a nightmare, and changes go from "difficult" to "impossible".
If the IT guy put the pieces together, he (should) document the connections, provide troubleshooting knowledge, and at least know who to call for support. At least that's the theory.
One company I just left did this. We had 2.5 employees supporting 1300 users. To streamline this the outsourcer made desktop support just that. Phone support just that. and the.5 guy does 1/2 for each part of the day.
So need Tibco installed. Nope call this guy in Iowa. Need EPM for MS Project? Sorry the project support group in New York does with that.
I was explicitly forbidden to do anything outside of my narrow documented assignments. Users sometimes had to wait for 30 days to get up to speed after a refresh if one of these project managers was laid off or on vacation. But we saved money!!
After being written up for helping someone else out I gave my 2 weeks.
Yes. That doesn't mean that it's IT's fault. At my current workplace, we have 150+ people, and 2 IT people. Getting stuff through IT is slow. However, the problem isn't with IT - they don't get to set their own budget.
What do they do all day? Browse slashdot?!
I just left a company where we had 2.5 (one was part time) doing I.T for 1,300 users! I left because users had to wait 10+ days to get a response sometimes and always yelled at me while I worked for free off the clock not to get fired.
If we can handle this with an average response time of 7 business days then why can't your company do so with 1/10 the demands?... maybe I should ask where you work as I could be relieved not to have ulcers?
Right now they are training me to become a math and computer teacher for middle school and highschool.
I used to hate them with a passion (typical slashdotter), but STEM is used to teach inner city children math, science, and engineering. My opinion has changed and STEM is not MS technology specific. I think it is great for non education majors who want a career change and STEM also is heavily investing in lego mindstorm projects too. This helps the tax payers out too as STEM students enrolled have higher test scores and achievement levels so they can persue greater opportunities in life.
STEM is part of Gates foundation to train engineering majors and not just paper MCSE to be I.T. professionals and encompasses many different things.
The tax and his personal dollars are appreciated and I get all sorts of training from other teachers as well while I spend my first year with 20 classroom observations and coaches. I see this as something that benefits everyone and I in Florida, not Washington state.
I wish the federal government cared more as other countries have similiar programs in their education system.
Anyway just a different opinion here I am presenting.
It seems all the American manfuctors are like Acer trying to outdo each other with who can make each product the cheapest. Dell and HP typically will pick components on who can make it $.005 cheaper than the rest and then wonder why marketshare is failing.
It is an extreme version of Milton Friedman economic theory where consumers will always buy the largest quantity of the cheapest product in a linear fashion.
Apple I would say is the exception and why they took over the market. Samsun however is now outdoing Apple. Where competitors never thought about the case and saved $.005 by using the cheapest plastic from China (not luxury plastic from Mexico as tthe workers demand more than $1 an hour...), Samsung made polycarbonite compsities.
While the industry in the 2000s focused on cheap green screens and 8 colors, Samsung focused on 1080p and high pixel densisity. Samsung led the way with bigger screens too.
Samsung's marketshare is well deserved and they are even beating Apple today where they have tiny screens and are lacking in features.
If this is the wave of the future I'm going to be buying a lot more of my stuff online. None of the internet retailers are tracking my purchases, are they?
Yeah great idea.
Amazon and others would never track down your browsing and buying habits ever.
they're (sic) sales people are legendary, and that's all that matters. IBM doesn't even bother giving IT a thought nowadays. It's all about the sales people. Oracle realized that ages ago.
Nonsense. I work for a fairly large university in the NE. We were an virtually exclusive Sun hardware/Solaris shop. Due to Oracle's behavior, we've moved wholly away on both hardware and software since they acquired Sun. Good riddance. I also know of an enormous urban school district (where I used to work and still know many people) that has done the same. While this is only an N of 2, I doubt we're all that rare.
While it is certainly true in some cases that sleazy snake oil salesmen snow decision makers, there are also organizations that will make informed decisions.
Nonsense, I have no power at all with my last several clients which software I support and what some geeks on a website think to the CIO or MBA folks. Their response is support it or find another job!
That is how the real world works. Sales move up and play a game of golf to the bosses bosses boss and make a decision from dinner afterwards after a few drinks to impair judgement.
I am a cost and so are you who has no real value. Now the MBA guys... they are the ones who are in charge of I.T!! The CEO thinks that so it is true.
Regardless geeks who say silly things like no one would voluntarily use Oracle or Office when free alternatives are there do not get it. We do not buy Oracle. Our ticketing system, CRM, 3 million lines of custom web code, and whatever fucking links to it! We bash the MBA's for keeping IE 6 still around but it is about software and Oracle RDBMS is part of this platform and ecosystem. Perhaps not even the CIO had a choice in the manner?
Maybe the VP of wharehousing bought some asset tracking software and then told the company oh go buy Oracle 11g so we can run this? Thanks
After the disaster known as Java 7 I see no reason to change.
Java 6 works just fine thank you very much and will use it for many more years to come!
Java 7 had so many security vulnerabilities and with 6 I do not have to worry about shit breaking like the Android SDK and malware attacks that 7 has. I cringe thinking about the changes java 8 will include.
This might anger some slashdotters but if you want to change this vote for politicians to lower taxes and stop the healthcare ripoff that is crippling the western world.
Anger? No, just pity that you don't understand economics.
I don't understand economics? When you are losing money which do you do? Spend less or more? Last I heard BB is bleeding.
Yep! All those sweatshop programmers in China and India are more efficient than the three people left at RIM's office in Canuckistan.
Next week, they'll announce that they're moving their office to the local StarSchmucks'.
10 years ago that was true. Today these Indian programmers have 10 years experience and are about as productive as American ones. Since they work for 1/6th the cost it doesn't make economic sense to keep an American around. Remember your employer only pays 60% of the money you make on your income. The rest is Obamacare and taxes.
So if you are making $60,000 a year your employer actually pays $100,000! In India you pay $25,000 and $20,000 goes towards his salary and the $5,000 taxes and no healthcare.
So 4 Indian programmers = 1 American programmer or Canadian in your case. Sometimes you do not need to eat Fillet Miagnon every meal and McDonalds works just fine. Same case here.
This might anger some slashdotters but if you want to change this vote for politicians to lower taxes and stop the healthcare ripoff that is crippling the western world. Then perhaps more jobs would come back here. But the MBA's are correct I am afraid. When you need to keep the lights on you have to watch every penny you have and make choices like this to continue staying in business.
Wrong according to saint RMS you can charge for support!
I mean anyone can just use the service and program free of charge and how many of these geeks would love to spend $1999 for an enterprise edition support contract annually so they can have the privilege of chatting with Mike in India who asks if they restarted their computers?
Oh shit these switches are too slow? I guess I have to upgrade them to icore7 extremes etc in 1.5 years instead of waiting a decade to upgrade. It is why Intel makes very shitty integrated graphics. They want casual users to buy icore7 extremes for simple things so they can make more money.
Little do they know there is this thing called competition.
My guess is these will be updated all the time for being slow === more revenue! I hope IT managers with a brain wake up and think because it is from Intel that always has to beat AMD or non intel chipsets.
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Looks like they're dropping dead waste, and putting more money into R&D.
Good Job! Sorry if anyone here was affected.
I can't tell if you are sarcastic or not? Most companies I know treat R&d like temps and keep the corporate jets they use once a year instead.
Try having your app run in IE 6 and I think your opinion would rapidly change
Like clip art, cut and paste, and fonts even?
Shit I would take wordpad over word for dos.
What you described depends on the party-to-party licensing agreement. It is 100% between those two parties what to put in there. No laws force anything.
Except when your product uses fonts, touch, has a battery, etc
Now your at mercy with the monopolist who says pay @$2,000,000,000 or else! So you must sign the agreement or else pay the fine and have an injunction on your product. Thats not fair as in essence this was not an agreement but forced action.
Apple is staying making money. Just off suing people instead even if the sales of iPhones are going down.
China is in a recession right now with only 5% growth! I know in the US that is considered 1999 days, but for China it causes many to save cash as they are more used to 15% per year growth.
No we are paying for it and all the competitors. A licensing agreement has clauses saying you will pay even if they are invalidated and they can sue you for billions if you violate it etc.
It should be illegal but money can buy a lot of things if you are rich and powerful including laws, favors, and corrution.
As much as I rag on Apple they should get a refund from the Patent Office, and something for their trouble.
The Patent office should not hand out patents then take them back. It should have never been issued and their fees should at least be refunded. The examiner who granted this as some serious explaining to do.
Nope and if you are competitor you still have to pay Apple for patents they no longer own. After all you agreed to it out of court right?
So when you purchase a galaxy S that cost $250 to make for $699 you can rest assured Apple and CEOs of these shady IP companies like Intellectual ventures are stealing your money.
Worse how many still have to Apple for patents they no longer own due to licensing agreements?
Doesn't matter if they were invalidated if you agreed Apple can sue if you do not pay each month etc.
Next time you pay $699 for a Galaxy 4 S that cost $250 to make be happy you are paying Apple and other millionaires who invested in these rotten companies.
Right so providing excellent service is a no no and I should expect a complaint from a VP?
What about her needs and mine here? The boss is always right even when she is not yours just like the customer. Thats part of the problem and why IT gets no respect qnd is viewed as a cost. Quiting was the right thing to do.
If I and my other former cowrokers were there a password reset would be done by noon. 130 employees can be managed part time for someone experienced easily.
I do not tolerate poor performance in this economy when anyone can be replaced. If sales were lost due to a week of no email then the beancounter needs to be fired. People shoyld read Larry Wingets "It is called work for a reason?"
Really depends on what the users are. If you have 1300 "students" good luck with 2 IT people having time to do anything other than protect the network from a bunch of maladaptive little freaks. If you have 1300 12 O'Clock flashers, good luck getting them to do anything other than clean infections off the desktop fleet.
Also, if you have lax controls on anything you can expect support man hours to balloon; a desktop that is locked down and doesn't allow the uber retards to install bonzai buddy or whatever trojan laden "free" shit is available today requires about 20 mins a year of maintenance. I knew one user that used 10 years of maintenance a month, every month, at least. They could have fired her and me and saved the company 2 salaries.
Oh get this shit! All the users were local admins on top of that workload! Cries ...
Then you clean the viruses and then some MBA jerk says "Billly Gates, it has been a week! Are you going to fucking fix my computer or what?! ... ...
Me: Sorry cleaning virus infections of angry pigs that someone with local admin rights installed on the shared drive
MBA: What?! Are you going to come clean it or not ...
me: Let me clear with my boss
Boss: No go clean the machines!
MBA: Billy I am going to call you by the hour until it is done
Anyway, offtopic here and venting. My original point is sometimes people with lax IT culture get away with shit like 2 users for 130 people?! If I dealt with this shit with 2.5 users, and a 700 user refresh, plug virus outbreak with local admin users, and regular IT, all for $14/hr with no overtime, then I think some I.T. folks need to get their butts in gear.
For those in my situation. QUIT! Life is too short and you are part of the problem if you put up with such poor service. I was just as incompetent too by agreeing to have such limited resources.
If more IT requires more IT work then it brings a greater productivity and pays for itself.
They should be fired in your company!
I had 10x the same workload with a similar response time, in which I fired myself for as I found this disgusting and incompetent towards the users. I was also paid 40% less than those who came earlier when the beancounters did not keep cutting the budgets for the same workload too which angered me and caused my resignation.
Still a week for a password reset should have heads roll. I rolled my own as a truly competent employee would not work for such a company with that poor of service.
I had the best stats believe it or not.
You are correct I couldn't handle it and I thought it was a rotten thing to do the users. 2.5 per 130 vs 1300 is a 10x workload difference!
I left also because the other guys got paid 50% more and had benefits and they paid me as a temp but let me handle the same workload. I was told regardless of my stats the beancounters so no value in I.T. so that is all I would ever make. After being reprimanded for doing something another department was supposed to do because a VP needed a solution now!! I gave my 2 weeks out of anger.
I fired myself so to speak because that is not acceptable in my own standards.
Sure, IT's the bottleneck. Why? Because users who roll their own solution without understanding what they're creating will create a fragile business model.
Andy Accountant decides to do General Ledger on Quickbooks, while Polly Payables decides to do billing on the bank's web server. How does one update the other? It starts out as a manual process. But let's say Polly is clever and signs up for IFTTT.com to automate the integration. She also hands the task of entering the bills over to Carlos Clerical. Later, when Polly is on vacation, Andy downloads an upgrade to Quickbooks - but IFTTT was set up only to modify the original Quickbooks. Now Polly's billing doesn't work, and Carlos has no idea what's going on. Polly is the only support person, but she's on vacation. Andy only knows about the manual processes, so he can't help Carlos. So the bills don't get paid.
And the IT guy only knows about the PCs, the printers, the network, and the file server. He doesn't know about the apps, because the users got tired of waiting for him and rolled their own.
Repeat this scene for each and every system, service, and person involved with computers in the organization. It starts out easy and fast, but the dependencies quickly crust over every activity the company performs. Support becomes a nightmare, and changes go from "difficult" to "impossible".
If the IT guy put the pieces together, he (should) document the connections, provide troubleshooting knowledge, and at least know who to call for support. At least that's the theory.
One company I just left did this. We had 2.5 employees supporting 1300 users. To streamline this the outsourcer made desktop support just that. Phone support just that. and the .5 guy does 1/2 for each part of the day.
So need Tibco installed. Nope call this guy in Iowa. Need EPM for MS Project? Sorry the project support group in New York does with that.
I was explicitly forbidden to do anything outside of my narrow documented assignments. Users sometimes had to wait for 30 days to get up to speed after a refresh if one of these project managers was laid off or on vacation. But we saved money!!
After being written up for helping someone else out I gave my 2 weeks.
Yes. That doesn't mean that it's IT's fault. At my current workplace, we have 150+ people, and 2 IT people. Getting stuff through IT is slow. However, the problem isn't with IT - they don't get to set their own budget.
What do they do all day? Browse slashdot?!
I just left a company where we had 2.5 (one was part time) doing I.T for 1,300 users! I left because users had to wait 10+ days to get a response sometimes and always yelled at me while I worked for free off the clock not to get fired.
If we can handle this with an average response time of 7 business days then why can't your company do so with 1/10 the demands? ... maybe I should ask where you work as I could be relieved not to have ulcers?
Right now they are training me to become a math and computer teacher for middle school and highschool.
I used to hate them with a passion (typical slashdotter), but STEM is used to teach inner city children math, science, and engineering. My opinion has changed and STEM is not MS technology specific. I think it is great for non education majors who want a career change and STEM also is heavily investing in lego mindstorm projects too. This helps the tax payers out too as STEM students enrolled have higher test scores and achievement levels so they can persue greater opportunities in life.
STEM is part of Gates foundation to train engineering majors and not just paper MCSE to be I.T. professionals and encompasses many different things.
The tax and his personal dollars are appreciated and I get all sorts of training from other teachers as well while I spend my first year with 20 classroom observations and coaches. I see this as something that benefits everyone and I in Florida, not Washington state.
I wish the federal government cared more as other countries have similiar programs in their education system.
Anyway just a different opinion here I am presenting.
It seems all the American manfuctors are like Acer trying to outdo each other with who can make each product the cheapest. Dell and HP typically will pick components on who can make it $.005 cheaper than the rest and then wonder why marketshare is failing.
It is an extreme version of Milton Friedman economic theory where consumers will always buy the largest quantity of the cheapest product in a linear fashion.
Apple I would say is the exception and why they took over the market. Samsun however is now outdoing Apple. Where competitors never thought about the case and saved $.005 by using the cheapest plastic from China (not luxury plastic from Mexico as tthe workers demand more than $1 an hour ...), Samsung made polycarbonite compsities.
While the industry in the 2000s focused on cheap green screens and 8 colors, Samsung focused on 1080p and high pixel densisity. Samsung led the way with bigger screens too.
Samsung's marketshare is well deserved and they are even beating Apple today where they have tiny screens and are lacking in features.
If this is the wave of the future I'm going to be buying a lot more of my stuff online. None of the internet retailers are tracking my purchases, are they?
Yeah great idea.
Amazon and others would never track down your browsing and buying habits ever.
they're (sic) sales people are legendary, and that's all that matters. IBM doesn't even bother giving IT a thought nowadays. It's all about the sales people. Oracle realized that ages ago.
Nonsense. I work for a fairly large university in the NE. We were an virtually exclusive Sun hardware/Solaris shop. Due to Oracle's behavior, we've moved wholly away on both hardware and software since they acquired Sun. Good riddance. I also know of an enormous urban school district (where I used to work and still know many people) that has done the same. While this is only an N of 2, I doubt we're all that rare.
While it is certainly true in some cases that sleazy snake oil salesmen snow decision makers, there are also organizations that will make informed decisions.
Nonsense, I have no power at all with my last several clients which software I support and what some geeks on a website think to the CIO or MBA folks. Their response is support it or find another job!
That is how the real world works. Sales move up and play a game of golf to the bosses bosses boss and make a decision from dinner afterwards after a few drinks to impair judgement.
I am a cost and so are you who has no real value. Now the MBA guys ... they are the ones who are in charge of I.T!! The CEO thinks that so it is true.
Regardless geeks who say silly things like no one would voluntarily use Oracle or Office when free alternatives are there do not get it. We do not buy Oracle. Our ticketing system, CRM, 3 million lines of custom web code, and whatever fucking links to it! We bash the MBA's for keeping IE 6 still around but it is about software and Oracle RDBMS is part of this platform and ecosystem. Perhaps not even the CIO had a choice in the manner?
Maybe the VP of wharehousing bought some asset tracking software and then told the company oh go buy Oracle 11g so we can run this? Thanks
After the disaster known as Java 7 I see no reason to change.
Java 6 works just fine thank you very much and will use it for many more years to come!
Java 7 had so many security vulnerabilities and with 6 I do not have to worry about shit breaking like the Android SDK and malware attacks that 7 has. I cringe thinking about the changes java 8 will include.
This might anger some slashdotters but if you want to change this vote for politicians to lower taxes and stop the healthcare ripoff that is crippling the western world.
Anger? No, just pity that you don't understand economics.
I don't understand economics? When you are losing money which do you do? Spend less or more? Last I heard BB is bleeding.
Yep! All those sweatshop programmers in China and India are more efficient than the three people left at RIM's office in Canuckistan.
Next week, they'll announce that they're moving their office to the local StarSchmucks'.
10 years ago that was true. Today these Indian programmers have 10 years experience and are about as productive as American ones. Since they work for 1/6th the cost it doesn't make economic sense to keep an American around. Remember your employer only pays 60% of the money you make on your income. The rest is Obamacare and taxes.
So if you are making $60,000 a year your employer actually pays $100,000! In India you pay $25,000 and $20,000 goes towards his salary and the $5,000 taxes and no healthcare.
So 4 Indian programmers = 1 American programmer or Canadian in your case. Sometimes you do not need to eat Fillet Miagnon every meal and McDonalds works just fine. Same case here.
This might anger some slashdotters but if you want to change this vote for politicians to lower taxes and stop the healthcare ripoff that is crippling the western world. Then perhaps more jobs would come back here. But the MBA's are correct I am afraid. When you need to keep the lights on you have to watch every penny you have and make choices like this to continue staying in business.
Well its pretty hard to keep the lights on and paying for obamacare and employees salary when you are not receiving enough income.
Wrong according to saint RMS you can charge for support!
I mean anyone can just use the service and program free of charge and how many of these geeks would love to spend $1999 for an enterprise edition support contract annually so they can have the privilege of chatting with Mike in India who asks if they restarted their computers?
Of course it is great for intel!
Oh shit these switches are too slow? I guess I have to upgrade them to icore7 extremes etc in 1.5 years instead of waiting a decade to upgrade. It is why Intel makes very shitty integrated graphics. They want casual users to buy icore7 extremes for simple things so they can make more money.
Little do they know there is this thing called competition.
My guess is these will be updated all the time for being slow === more revenue! I hope IT managers with a brain wake up and think because it is from Intel that always has to beat AMD or non intel chipsets.