Yeah but those are part time jobs. Not 40 hours a week to give a little extra money.
Whether you admit or not guess which industry and only industry expanding during our last recession? SERVICE! Yes, people raising a family are taking those jobs as it is only one they can find. Yes company owners want everyone to be broke but them and race to the bottom so they can become richer.
The counter argument is in Europe and Australia you see burger flippers raising a family fine at $15 an hour and robots are not taking their jobs like slashdoters keep saying.
I use to be hard right myself until I seen evidence showing contrary. I think value a worker provides is much higher than the wage as their is a financial incentive by owners to underpay if they can
Because in countries like Australia that already have $16lhr minumum wage we still see burger flips and a healthy economy. Not Venezuela and robots and order screens and non existent entry level jobs for any Australian.
The whole study is flawed as correlation != causation as another posters mentioned already. So the methodology is wages go up and automation increases in a time frame? Therefore it was the wage increase that caused automation!
Nothing to do with the introduction of PCs and inflation of course from 1980 on
Most distros including FreeBSD which ran cdrom.com have torrent files now where you can download them again fast by just keeping copies of the small torrent files
Just like the IT recession of 2000 started after Y2K was patched these same systems remain unaltered and strict budgets until XP and Server 2003 had to go. When that happened the budget was increased temporarily and everything else might as well be upgraded at the same time and out the legacy Unix Gopher and FTP sites went as well.
Because they want to test something for Mars. Mars is around 10 minute latency spike at the speed of light so transmitting the data in large sets and quickly is impracticable.
Not impressive as my 4 year old i7 has 120,000,000 instructions per second. This is around 8 times more which is a new desktop for a few thousand. Also my GPU which is a semi crappy RX 470 can easily do 5 trillion operations per second no problem.
As someone who used to live in California and also Florida the problem is the real estate agents tell them it is your private beach .
THen they wonder why other people are trespassing on their beach and that is when the problem starts. They feel they worked hard too and it is not fair anyone can have what they were promised they paid for.
Today we call them private communities and yes they have guards will will harrass you if you dare go onto the public beaches and call the cops etc. The CEO who bought Richard Nixons beach home even installed a potato cannon to keep the surfers out.
After being told and seeing security officers block people you feel entitled and believe you own it and it is a vast government conspiracy into communism to share your beach you paid for promised by the real estate agent.
What needs to happen is not to false advertise. The people were sold that they owned it and after 20 years it is assumed so as that seemed to be the norm rather than the exception of liberals invading their land
Many industrial controls with SSDs seem to always fail and one of the projects I worked on was replacing the SSDs that come with them with a hard disk as they never seem to have problems like the SSDs do.
I have seen other slashdotters on here who work in the enterprise who have loads of failed ssds on their desks, but their hard drives while slower are always less in quantity in comparison. It doesn't matter the brand. They all fail and when they do they go hard.
You see in places like Malibu they bought all the roads with so called "private communities" and without a card you can't drive to the roads to the beaches. Viola problem solved!
You can try by boat but in California you will be shot at by cannons loaded with potatos, private security guards, and angry locals who do not want you on their turf as they paid good money with the promise of "private beach access" by the realtor agent.
What this guy is doing is standard business in California. Beach access is difficult at best even if it is publicly legal.
Heck, the smart thing for him would be to turn the whole property into "Khosla beach", add some nice private facilities, and close it off temporarily for "private functions" on the couple of days that he actually might have time to spend there. Instant good press.
Well, no. It's illegal for him to close the right of way, period, whether he is there or not. The smart thing for him to do would be to fuck right off and move somewhere else because he is forever going to be known at a fuckbag. People will be taking a shit and throwing it onto his property, throwing beer bottles at his house and the like forever more. Especially when it comes to beaches, many Californians are passionate about public access.
Californians are used to rich taking their beaches. Go try to find a public one in Malibu? If you get on the beach you will be prompted by security asking how you got here and arrested for trespassing or beat up by the rich locals for going on their turf etc.
In their mind they paid good money for it and it is their god given right. Hell, Nixon's former residence new owner has a cannon who shoots potatos at surfers who dare go on his beach.
Same in Florida. It maybe law but the developers are selling their homes with a promise of private or community beach access and feel ripped off when rift raft or strangers walk in front of their houses.
The trick now is owning the roads and putting up gates so the public can't drive to access the beaches even if they are public
Is your workflow dependent on an audio card or is it all CPU?
The VST and VSTi plugins I use eat up a lot of processor. The Xeon in my current music system can handle it no problem. The main bottleneck is disk throughput. I stream the recorded tracks from a Linux machine with a RAID array, and I've been throwing SSDs into the system as I go along. Now that I think about it, everything's running just fine and the only reason I would think to build a new DAW system is because I'm used to doing it every 3-4 years.
I'll just wait a bit and watch the DAW forums to see what people say about the Ryzen. I've learned my lesson about being the early adopter.
Hey were nerds. That is why we are here!
I would love to have something like this (click to 5 minutes) and impress all the ladies with my build (in my dreams). But I too own a i7 4770K from 2014 and have no reason to change besides specs. I just want it:-)
I think an NVME would be nicer to boot virtual machines but they already load in a few seconds on my raid 0 ssds so no need to change. What I have 3 years old or not works fine and has never been a moment where I cursed that it was too slow.
No. Crysis 3 surprisingly scales well and kicks ass on a Ryzen since it is 8 core 16 threads but most games do not scale super well beyond 3 to 4 cores.
Is your workflow dependent on an audio card or is it all CPU? But from what I read about Ryzen you are right to be a little cautious as it is very new. In a nutshell AMD hired it's former Alpha CPU architect who designed the AthlonXP back after their disastrous bulldozer failed.The new architecture is 52% faster per core than its predecessor.
Problem is bugs hit the new CPU which was expected. Motherboard makers have patched their systems to remove a few glitches including ram speeds not working beyond 2600 mhz at first. FYI Intel Skylake got hit with bugs too. NVMe and Intel graphics sucked and needed to be patched to prevent BSOD so you can point to both sides:-)
Ryzen needs special memory too get beyond stock DDR 4 speeds and patches to the motherboards.
Basically, AMD is back in the game and while around 10% slower per core than the latest and greatest Intel CPU the r7 Ryzen series has double the cores and threads. Threadripper maybe overkill for your needs but a 1700x you can get for around $399 per CPU has 8 cores/16 threads.
In a nutshell Intel is more solid, faster per core, and mature while Ryzen is brand new and maturing chip. I hope that helps.
In other words, there were fantastic in the engineering lab, where conditions could be tightly controlled and optimized; but in the real-world, they just didn't work out so well.
So, what we have with the AMD Ryzen CPUs is something which, when benchmarks are constructed like virtually NO software actually is, they appear to kick ass. But, with software that is written like 99% of developers and their development toolchains do it, they are actually LOWER-performing than their "slower" counterparts.
TL;DR: LOL!!!
Actually not true. Where Ryzen helps in the real world is having the system remain responsive when having a million things open that uses threads like Chrome for example. Ryzen is a skylake i5 with several cores basically. An i7 has more performance per core which you are correct.
Keep in mind phones today have more cores than i7 and Intel has now woken up and redesigned coffeelake to include 6 and 8 cores.
A ryzen r3/5 is cheaper than an i5 and has SMT (hyperthreading) where you need an i7 with an intel. I think in the real world Ryzen is a great value as even the budget r3 1200 is a true quad core CPU at an i3 price! The speed difference is not that great for single tasking but things are changing and having +30 tabs in Chrome, running a game, virus scan in the background with Office will show some benefits having SMT and +4 cores.
There are large land masses today that are in the chilly boreal or tundra zones which are poor farming with anything besides berries which will soon be able to grow wheat and maybe even corn and other crops
You're forgetting something important: Sunlight.
Those formerly-arctic areas won't receive sunlight like the currently-temperate areas. Lengthy periods of sunlight will be shorter, yet for more of the day.
We already know food crops do not grow as well in constant sunlight, so the longer summer days are not helpful.
These areas also "sunny" for a shorter part of the year, since spring and fall are more extreme than lower latitudes when it comes to hours of sunlight. That's going to effectively shorten the growing season compared to lower latitudes where you can get 2-3 crops per year if you're growing the right crops.
Which means we can't just say "oh, we'll farm in Canada instead of Kansas". Canada can't make as much food even with higher temperatures.
Quite contraire my friend. I lived in Alaska. They get a full 22 hours of sunlight. Lettuce as a result grows HUGE as well as marijuana. Keep in mind these are mostly in greenhouses. Cabbage grows very well as it is a hardly plant and with global warming and a warmer growing season expanded from 90 days to now 120 days it loves the long cool sunlight. But in the winter when sunlight is low it is winter anyway.
Algae grows like crazy in the arctic which confuses people as it typically loves warm water. While true it grows like crazy due to the sunlight
The Intel i9 is hotter and the wattage difference is more like 25 watts. No you won't save $1000 in electrical costs.
Keep in mind these are HUUUGGE 12 core dies. If you care about wattage then the Ryzen series which uses less watts than the i7 maybe more in your budget as these are workstation oriented processors and not desktop.
The i9 sucks too with lots of heat and watts compared to the desktop oriented coutnerparts. Keep in mind these are new generation CPUs and not the crappy bulldozer architecture that proceeded it.
When 1 out of 4 Americans in particular watch INfowars, Briebert, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Foxnews you create an echo chamber of an alternative reality. I want to say that such kooks are a slimy minority.
However, the majority of Republicans really do believe Obama is a muslim born in Kenya and global warming does not exist as a mainstream popular belief in the polls! Foxnews and the rise of the right has done so much harm.
All the big thinktanks have to do is run a commercial on these channels and the folks will spew the crap all over the internet as fact.
The more appropriate extinction event to compare with is the End-Permian Extinction. That was caused by essentially burning fossil fuels, because lava got in contact with much of the then-existing seams of coal.
Right now we are adding CO2 to the atmosphere at a faster pace than the volcanism did back then, and we are less likely to accidentally leave rich coal seams untouched.
Not even close buddy. Lol.
The world back then was mostly tropical before the traps started and the lava flows extended thousands upon thousands of kilometers. It burned through coal and forests at an almost Continental level. Scientists say not only did it warm over 14C but acid rain hit and killed as much plant and marine life as the temperate surge. While acid rain is prevalent in places like China today it is not nearly so bad it kills all plant life.
I would even argue (since this is slashdot a real scientist can please correct me if I am wrong), that the recent medieval warming period was hotter than today! Records show farms in Greenland by the Vikings and wineries in Scotland and oranges grown as far north as central China. Maybe not 8C warmer for sure, but yes warmer than today's weather by far.
If we're on our way to a lethal +8C world, that's bad news. But the world is a reflexive system. If we kill ourselves off at +4C, say, human greenhouse gas production ceases, and (after a long lag) the world finds a new stable point without us. So there's a tendency for the world to self-correct. On the other hand, there may be positive feedbacks (tipping points) that push us all the way to a Venus scenario. The moral is, it's a complex non-linear system, and straight line extrapolations are almost certainly wrong when they go far beyond historical experience.
We would survive fine. True the deserts of Africa are already close to inhabitable but most of the land in Russia, Canada, Alaska, Nordic countries, New Zealand, and maybe even Antartica once the glaciers melt away will go from Tunda/Tiagra to continental. There are large land masses today that are in the chilly boreal or tundra zones which are poor farming with anything besides berries which will soon be able to grow wheat and maybe even corn and other crops
Actually obesity raises healthcare costs in the short term for everyone including corporations and their employees so their would be no net gain. Rather a net lose even if they die earlier
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Can't see it take off with all the new kewl millennial kids otherwise
Yeah but those are part time jobs. Not 40 hours a week to give a little extra money.
Whether you admit or not guess which industry and only industry expanding during our last recession? SERVICE! Yes, people raising a family are taking those jobs as it is only one they can find. Yes company owners want everyone to be broke but them and race to the bottom so they can become richer.
The counter argument is in Europe and Australia you see burger flippers raising a family fine at $15 an hour and robots are not taking their jobs like slashdoters keep saying.
I use to be hard right myself until I seen evidence showing contrary. I think value a worker provides is much higher than the wage as their is a financial incentive by owners to underpay if they can
Because in countries like Australia that already have $16lhr minumum wage we still see burger flips and a healthy economy. Not Venezuela and robots and order screens and non existent entry level jobs for any Australian.
The whole study is flawed as correlation != causation as another posters mentioned already. So the methodology is wages go up and automation increases in a time frame? Therefore it was the wage increase that caused automation!
Nothing to do with the introduction of PCs and inflation of course from 1980 on
Most distros including FreeBSD which ran cdrom.com have torrent files now where you can download them again fast by just keeping copies of the small torrent files
Alot of this is due to the XP EOL.
Just like the IT recession of 2000 started after Y2K was patched these same systems remain unaltered and strict budgets until XP and Server 2003 had to go. When that happened the budget was increased temporarily and everything else might as well be upgraded at the same time and out the legacy Unix Gopher and FTP sites went as well.
You can buy one on ebay for $1200
Because they want to test something for Mars. Mars is around 10 minute latency spike at the speed of light so transmitting the data in large sets and quickly is impracticable.
Not impressive as my 4 year old i7 has 120,000,000 instructions per second. This is around 8 times more which is a new desktop for a few thousand. Also my GPU which is a semi crappy RX 470 can easily do 5 trillion operations per second no problem.
It's NOT his fucking beach.
As someone who used to live in California and also Florida the problem is the real estate agents tell them it is your private beach .
THen they wonder why other people are trespassing on their beach and that is when the problem starts. They feel they worked hard too and it is not fair anyone can have what they were promised they paid for.
Today we call them private communities and yes they have guards will will harrass you if you dare go onto the public beaches and call the cops etc. The CEO who bought Richard Nixons beach home even installed a potato cannon to keep the surfers out.
After being told and seeing security officers block people you feel entitled and believe you own it and it is a vast government conspiracy into communism to share your beach you paid for promised by the real estate agent.
What needs to happen is not to false advertise. The people were sold that they owned it and after 20 years it is assumed so as that seemed to be the norm rather than the exception of liberals invading their land
If your application is Rainbow Tables (or similar) then it's totally worth it.
Or the new minimum requirement for Java 9 JRE
Many industrial controls with SSDs seem to always fail and one of the projects I worked on was replacing the SSDs that come with them with a hard disk as they never seem to have problems like the SSDs do.
I have seen other slashdotters on here who work in the enterprise who have loads of failed ssds on their desks, but their hard drives while slower are always less in quantity in comparison. It doesn't matter the brand. They all fail and when they do they go hard.
California developers are still winning.
You see in places like Malibu they bought all the roads with so called "private communities" and without a card you can't drive to the roads to the beaches. Viola problem solved!
You can try by boat but in California you will be shot at by cannons loaded with potatos, private security guards, and angry locals who do not want you on their turf as they paid good money with the promise of "private beach access" by the realtor agent.
What this guy is doing is standard business in California. Beach access is difficult at best even if it is publicly legal.
Heck, the smart thing for him would be to turn the whole property into "Khosla beach", add some nice private facilities, and close it off temporarily for "private functions" on the couple of days that he actually might have time to spend there. Instant good press.
Well, no. It's illegal for him to close the right of way, period, whether he is there or not. The smart thing for him to do would be to fuck right off and move somewhere else because he is forever going to be known at a fuckbag. People will be taking a shit and throwing it onto his property, throwing beer bottles at his house and the like forever more. Especially when it comes to beaches, many Californians are passionate about public access.
Californians are used to rich taking their beaches. Go try to find a public one in Malibu? If you get on the beach you will be prompted by security asking how you got here and arrested for trespassing or beat up by the rich locals for going on their turf etc.
In their mind they paid good money for it and it is their god given right. Hell, Nixon's former residence new owner has a cannon who shoots potatos at surfers who dare go on his beach.
Same in Florida. It maybe law but the developers are selling their homes with a promise of private or community beach access and feel ripped off when rift raft or strangers walk in front of their houses.
The trick now is owning the roads and putting up gates so the public can't drive to access the beaches even if they are public
The VST and VSTi plugins I use eat up a lot of processor. The Xeon in my current music system can handle it no problem. The main bottleneck is disk throughput. I stream the recorded tracks from a Linux machine with a RAID array, and I've been throwing SSDs into the system as I go along. Now that I think about it, everything's running just fine and the only reason I would think to build a new DAW system is because I'm used to doing it every 3-4 years.
I'll just wait a bit and watch the DAW forums to see what people say about the Ryzen. I've learned my lesson about being the early adopter.
Hey were nerds. That is why we are here!
I would love to have something like this (click to 5 minutes) and impress all the ladies with my build (in my dreams). But I too own a i7 4770K from 2014 and have no reason to change besides specs. I just want it :-)
I think an NVME would be nicer to boot virtual machines but they already load in a few seconds on my raid 0 ssds so no need to change. What I have 3 years old or not works fine and has never been a moment where I cursed that it was too slow.
No. Crysis 3 surprisingly scales well and kicks ass on a Ryzen since it is 8 core 16 threads but most games do not scale super well beyond 3 to 4 cores.
Is your workflow dependent on an audio card or is it all CPU? But from what I read about Ryzen you are right to be a little cautious as it is very new. In a nutshell AMD hired it's former Alpha CPU architect who designed the AthlonXP back after their disastrous bulldozer failed.The new architecture is 52% faster per core than its predecessor.
Problem is bugs hit the new CPU which was expected. Motherboard makers have patched their systems to remove a few glitches including ram speeds not working beyond 2600 mhz at first. FYI Intel Skylake got hit with bugs too. NVMe and Intel graphics sucked and needed to be patched to prevent BSOD so you can point to both sides :-)
Ryzen needs special memory too get beyond stock DDR 4 speeds and patches to the motherboards.
Basically, AMD is back in the game and while around 10% slower per core than the latest and greatest Intel CPU the r7 Ryzen series has double the cores and threads. Threadripper maybe overkill for your needs but a 1700x you can get for around $399 per CPU has 8 cores/16 threads.
In a nutshell Intel is more solid, faster per core, and mature while Ryzen is brand new and maturing chip. I hope that helps.
He called them "Lab Queens".
In other words, there were fantastic in the engineering lab, where conditions could be tightly controlled and optimized; but in the real-world, they just didn't work out so well.
So, what we have with the AMD Ryzen CPUs is something which, when benchmarks are constructed like virtually NO software actually is, they appear to kick ass. But, with software that is written like 99% of developers and their development toolchains do it, they are actually LOWER-performing than their "slower" counterparts.
TL;DR: LOL!!!
Actually not true. Where Ryzen helps in the real world is having the system remain responsive when having a million things open that uses threads like Chrome for example. Ryzen is a skylake i5 with several cores basically. An i7 has more performance per core which you are correct.
Keep in mind phones today have more cores than i7 and Intel has now woken up and redesigned coffeelake to include 6 and 8 cores.
A ryzen r3/5 is cheaper than an i5 and has SMT (hyperthreading) where you need an i7 with an intel. I think in the real world Ryzen is a great value as even the budget r3 1200 is a true quad core CPU at an i3 price! The speed difference is not that great for single tasking but things are changing and having +30 tabs in Chrome, running a game, virus scan in the background with Office will show some benefits having SMT and +4 cores.
There are large land masses today that are in the chilly boreal or tundra zones which are poor farming with anything besides berries which will soon be able to grow wheat and maybe even corn and other crops
You're forgetting something important: Sunlight.
Those formerly-arctic areas won't receive sunlight like the currently-temperate areas. Lengthy periods of sunlight will be shorter, yet for more of the day.
We already know food crops do not grow as well in constant sunlight, so the longer summer days are not helpful.
These areas also "sunny" for a shorter part of the year, since spring and fall are more extreme than lower latitudes when it comes to hours of sunlight. That's going to effectively shorten the growing season compared to lower latitudes where you can get 2-3 crops per year if you're growing the right crops.
Which means we can't just say "oh, we'll farm in Canada instead of Kansas". Canada can't make as much food even with higher temperatures.
Quite contraire my friend. I lived in Alaska. They get a full 22 hours of sunlight. Lettuce as a result grows HUGE as well as marijuana. Keep in mind these are mostly in greenhouses. Cabbage grows very well as it is a hardly plant and with global warming and a warmer growing season expanded from 90 days to now 120 days it loves the long cool sunlight. But in the winter when sunlight is low it is winter anyway.
Algae grows like crazy in the arctic which confuses people as it typically loves warm water. While true it grows like crazy due to the sunlight
The Intel i9 is hotter and the wattage difference is more like 25 watts. No you won't save $1000 in electrical costs.
Keep in mind these are HUUUGGE 12 core dies. If you care about wattage then the Ryzen series which uses less watts than the i7 maybe more in your budget as these are workstation oriented processors and not desktop.
The i9 sucks too with lots of heat and watts compared to the desktop oriented coutnerparts. Keep in mind these are new generation CPUs and not the crappy bulldozer architecture that proceeded it.
When 1 out of 4 Americans in particular watch INfowars, Briebert, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Foxnews you create an echo chamber of an alternative reality. I want to say that such kooks are a slimy minority.
However, the majority of Republicans really do believe Obama is a muslim born in Kenya and global warming does not exist as a mainstream popular belief in the polls! Foxnews and the rise of the right has done so much harm.
All the big thinktanks have to do is run a commercial on these channels and the folks will spew the crap all over the internet as fact.
The more appropriate extinction event to compare with is the End-Permian Extinction. That was caused by essentially burning fossil fuels, because lava got in contact with much of the then-existing seams of coal.
Right now we are adding CO2 to the atmosphere at a faster pace than the volcanism did back then, and we are less likely to accidentally leave rich coal seams untouched.
Not even close buddy. Lol.
The world back then was mostly tropical before the traps started and the lava flows extended thousands upon thousands of kilometers. It burned through coal and forests at an almost Continental level. Scientists say not only did it warm over 14C but acid rain hit and killed as much plant and marine life as the temperate surge. While acid rain is prevalent in places like China today it is not nearly so bad it kills all plant life.
I would even argue (since this is slashdot a real scientist can please correct me if I am wrong), that the recent medieval warming period was hotter than today! Records show farms in Greenland by the Vikings and wineries in Scotland and oranges grown as far north as central China. Maybe not 8C warmer for sure, but yes warmer than today's weather by far.
If we're on our way to a lethal +8C world, that's bad news. But the world is a reflexive system. If we kill ourselves off at +4C, say, human greenhouse gas production ceases, and (after a long lag) the world finds a new stable point without us. So there's a tendency for the world to self-correct. On the other hand, there may be positive feedbacks (tipping points) that push us all the way to a Venus scenario. The moral is, it's a complex non-linear system, and straight line extrapolations are almost certainly wrong when they go far beyond historical experience.
We would survive fine. True the deserts of Africa are already close to inhabitable but most of the land in Russia, Canada, Alaska, Nordic countries, New Zealand, and maybe even Antartica once the glaciers melt away will go from Tunda/Tiagra to continental. There are large land masses today that are in the chilly boreal or tundra zones which are poor farming with anything besides berries which will soon be able to grow wheat and maybe even corn and other crops
Why do you think they keep raising the age for social security?
Obesity is a problem in Europe as well since rates have doubled. Fast food chains and sugary drinks are there as well and also expanding
SAD is hitting other countries including Europe as well. It is not an American phenomenon
Actually obesity raises healthcare costs in the short term for everyone including corporations and their employees so their would be no net gain. Rather a net lose even if they die earlier