IE 8 and above had Chrome style security with sandboxing by default and lowrights mode in c:\users\user\%appdata% since 2009! No you did not misread that.
I still do not use Edge/IE 11 unless I am at work using a corporate site though:-)
But regardless people need to wake up that it is not 2004 anymore. Any browser that executes code needs to be in a VM sadly if you run from untrusted sources. Flash and javascript execute code which makes them insecure. Even with a sandbox and threading per process by each tab helps but it does not eliminate security risks regardless of browser.
A VM container that is hardened makes sense for any app that executes data sadly.
Windows 10 anniversary and server 2016 have safeguarded and hardened VM support in Hyper-V it calls shielded. I./O is limited accept through a layer and network hardening means it won't accept rogue IP addresses as routers which is a classic hacker scheme.
It is easy to spoof an IP address and advertise as a router to poison DNS as an example.
This would certainly help against this kind of attack.
I am not a fanboy of WIndows 10 by a long shot but WIndows 10 pro does: 1. Have the ability to control Windows Updates including defer feature updates ala Debian style. 2. GPO support 3. Pro has the same Hyper-v and RDP options. If you go under settings go to developer mode to turn them on by default 4. IIS support 5. The ability to pick when updates are applied
Windows 7/8 have spyware too unless you want to be insecure. Chrome and your phone already do this anyway.
The only thing the enterprise edition has is to turn off spyware and appstore. For home use I see no reason to rent. I am not happy with 10, but besides the history tracking I see it no different than 8.
The problem is two fold. History by it's very nature is not science. There is hypothesis and experimentation. It is what most probably happened and it's possible impact on events afterwards. The second is the time period. It is not unusual at all from what it seems that mythacysts like to make out.
1. Acid free paper that can withstand time was not invented. So little informationi s not proof! It just means we do not have much records besides copies of copies of copies... I will get to that below 2. The culture at the time was pre-enlightenment where people were not taught to investigate and use logic and critical thinking to figure the world around them. It was pissing contests and egos both with philosphers who tried to be intellectual and people praying to different Gods and using religion 3. The Gutenberg Printing press was not invented yet. This means you had to hand write and copy something if you liked it including all the errors and additions of the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy until the editors had several different versions of something and had to guess which one to use when copying by hand 4. Very high illiteracy of around 97%. This number is much higher in rural areas like Galee where Jesus would have preached 5. Paul most surely existed as Christianity was spread and all the leaders of the ancient church cite him as he spread it through Athens by the Greek philosophers. Sources all point back from the late 1st and 2nd centuries 6. Christianity was small and considered Jewish for the 1st century. 7. We have Josphious and Tactitus.
So I am into this subject but not religious anymore. So far scholars have looked at it this way:
1. Book of Mark probably written about 55 - 65 AD near Rome or in Rome based on writting style and events (Jesus said ressurection would happen in disciples lifetime and no mention of the destruction of the temple in 70 AD yet). Jesus is not God and became raised to diven status after death (the later paragraph was forged where he resurrected due to writting style differences and grammar)
2.: Q (this is a document used to create Luke and Mathew as it was obviously copied as too much looks verbatim. We do not know name or have surving copies) 70 - 85 AD. Mathew and Luke used Q and Mathew used Mark. Jesus now was made devine at his baptism. THe texts were corrupted as one version in 120 AD quoted paslm 29 where Jesus was made devine at the baptism to something that just re-affirms he already is devine.
3. Book of John he always was God and was creater of world circa 95 AD to 100 AD
So yes the NT is problematic as it is biased but historians use the information out of it by looking for similarities. So no smoking gun but it is not like we have 0 evidence at all.
There were vineyards in Scotland and diaries of vikings in Iceland tell of a land as warm as Europe. Orange trees were grown in parts of temperate China and northern Italy.
When it came to an end it started the little ice age which called all of the above to this day never recovered.
Oh there is not to say I am religious, but I just got into a flame war on that thread tonight with a fellow atheist.
Besides a few extreme not credible nutcases like Richard Carrier no biblical scholar agrees he never existed. Bart Ehrman in the link above is an agnostic atheist so no hidden agenda. But like what the previous poster said about Ron Hubbard existing doesn't mean I believe in Scientology.
Less than 3% of people could read or write and even less in rural areas so this means writtings for anything were scarce.
Josephus, and others quoted Jesus existing and even the problem gospels and Gnostic manuscripts that didn't make the cut (don't believe he is God btw ) have similarity. Paul mentioned meeting Peter and James. I think James would know he had a brother. Also Paul heard of Jesus far away near The Turkey which means Jews passed on Jesus to his synagogue.
The fact the early Christians did not consider Jesus God as evident in the book of Mark disproves Richard Carrier theory of how he got invented.
It lacks many HTML 5 features and mac users never upgrade and still use 2009 snow leopard with Safari 4 which makes IE look cutting edge in comparison. I saw a statistic a year or two ago showing 1/3 of Mac users had ancient versions of Mac OSx.
MS like any organization makes great and crappy software.
So they make mediocre operating systems. They do make excellent business software and good development software like C# and visual studio. Gnu makes great operating systems and ok development software.
Use the right tool for the job. It is open source and compiles to JavaScript so no locking. Why can't ms make something good considering no one makes everything good? Are you that biased?
Because websites still use JavaScript for client side stuff. Typescript makes this job easier and oddly use JavaScript like a byte code in Java where it compiles to JavaScript so it works in every browser or mobile app
Even if you use LibreOffice I am sure you have word and excel documents lying around. If you do real work or a college student you are going to be emailed office documents.
It's not a conspiracy, when the evidence says its fact.
Microsoft haven't changed. They still want to embrace, extend, extinguish. In fact, they've even expanded to include Linux development internally, and commercially, in the only space where their OS gets beat performance-wise bar none: server side. If that fact doesn't raise an eyebrow, your either younger than you post, or a denial shill. Or both.
bahaha
Ok ignore the fact it comes with a strange HD/SSD hybrid. Instead of Linux not supporting the driver it IS ALL MY GOD LOOK MS IS BEING EVIL. These comments remind of when foxnews.com had a comment section and reading the replies about anything Obama. Tinfoil hats indeed
I swear slashdot has turned into the fox news of computers. I have to go to meowing.net to hear both sides as journalism and comments are so poor and slanted.
FYI my MS surface pro 3 with signature Windows runs Ubuntu just fine without secure boot and even with! Intel owns the UEFI spec and not MS.
Sheesh folks
Also Lenovo is in my do not buy list due to spearfish and using Windows Store to reinstall malware since they label them as drivers. It is a junk Chinese company
Now it won't ever be implemented. Shoot we would still be having an IE 6 internet too if it were not for MS forcing corps to stop using it. People hate change and it is impossible unless you kill the original but good luck as Swift is open source
It wont ever be implemented as long as the previous is supported. Shoot my employer still supports IE 6 and would only still use it if MS didn't force change.
I said the same comment on previous story with Swift. People never learn once something is etched it is the word of God and is almost impossible to change
It is a slow insecure piece of crap and worse it is owned by Oracle! Let it die and do not feed Oracle anymore mindshare by supporting it.
I know it is in use and entrenched like Cobol and VB 6 in the enterprise and did have promise back in the day, but I consider it contaminated. The fact that you can be used by using it and extorted to an Oracle RDBMS license at anytime for using an API is a big risk. Yes, Oracle stated this in court against Google.
The more we geeks fight back and switch to something like C++ or even Mono the sooner we won't have to depend on it.
I would argue a tastier ketchup is worth more. People value it and are willing to pay for it which in return employees people to boot as well. A VC that attracts customers is worthy to the employees and the customers. All which re-invest the everyone else to help eliminate hunger as the trajectory and speed of the money supply being moved in the economy are signs of economic growth and everyone benefiting from it
You didn't starve tonight did you? Someone gave you food or the ingredients to make you food just like helping a poor person. You received that for your contribution to society determined by your worth your employer sets for their needs.
Any business that creates a job is the best humanitarian there is!
If this is certified to run Linux you can bet the drivers will be included on the system which is why it is $150 more than the win 10 version.
The other distros will get the drivers soon too as Intel is Foss friendly. Problem is the users want a solid distribution so the kernel and software maybe slightly older
Dell is notorious for having 2 different products with the same model name. If one sound chip is $.03 cheaper they replace it. Same with mixing LAN, storage, video etc. It sucks bad downloading drivers for executives as you can have +30 drivers all different for each same model all with their own quirks.
The Linux model probably has the same parts and is tested for compability with drivers. You know it will work well basically which is a plus
The rest of the world is moving forward. You do not see megachurches in places like France or Sweden? You do not see crazy fundamentalists who think anyone who wants bathrooms for both genders is not an evil communist out to destroy freedom.
It is driving me crazy and fundamentalists churches are GROWING! Liberal churches I see are declining but it is 2016 and not 1816. I would think with more educated people you would see a declining faith.
THe Mormon and fundamentalist churches are the ones who demand 15% which is why it is so high in the US.
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Edge != IE 6.
IE 8 and above had Chrome style security with sandboxing by default and lowrights mode in c:\users\user\%appdata% since 2009! No you did not misread that.
I still do not use Edge/IE 11 unless I am at work using a corporate site though :-)
But regardless people need to wake up that it is not 2004 anymore. Any browser that executes code needs to be in a VM sadly if you run from untrusted sources. Flash and javascript execute code which makes them insecure. Even with a sandbox and threading per process by each tab helps but it does not eliminate security risks regardless of browser.
A VM container that is hardened makes sense for any app that executes data sadly.
Actually if it is hardened it can certainly help.
Windows 10 anniversary and server 2016 have safeguarded and hardened VM support in Hyper-V it calls shielded. I./O is limited accept through a layer and network hardening means it won't accept rogue IP addresses as routers which is a classic hacker scheme.
It is easy to spoof an IP address and advertise as a router to poison DNS as an example.
This would certainly help against this kind of attack.
I am not a fanboy of WIndows 10 by a long shot but WIndows 10 pro does:
1. Have the ability to control Windows Updates including defer feature updates ala Debian style.
2. GPO support
3. Pro has the same Hyper-v and RDP options. If you go under settings go to developer mode to turn them on by default
4. IIS support
5. The ability to pick when updates are applied
Windows 7/8 have spyware too unless you want to be insecure. Chrome and your phone already do this anyway.
The only thing the enterprise edition has is to turn off spyware and appstore. For home use I see no reason to rent. I am not happy with 10, but besides the history tracking I see it no different than 8.
It is a big problem.
The problem is two fold. History by it's very nature is not science. There is hypothesis and experimentation. It is what most probably happened and it's possible impact on events afterwards. The second is the time period. It is not unusual at all from what it seems that mythacysts like to make out.
1. Acid free paper that can withstand time was not invented. So little informationi s not proof! It just means we do not have much records besides copies of copies of copies ... I will get to that below
2. The culture at the time was pre-enlightenment where people were not taught to investigate and use logic and critical thinking to figure the world around them. It was pissing contests and egos both with philosphers who tried to be intellectual and people praying to different Gods and using religion
3. The Gutenberg Printing press was not invented yet. This means you had to hand write and copy something if you liked it including all the errors and additions of the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy until the editors had several different versions of something and had to guess which one to use when copying by hand
4. Very high illiteracy of around 97%. This number is much higher in rural areas like Galee where Jesus would have preached
5. Paul most surely existed as Christianity was spread and all the leaders of the ancient church cite him as he spread it through Athens by the Greek philosophers. Sources all point back from the late 1st and 2nd centuries
6. Christianity was small and considered Jewish for the 1st century.
7. We have Josphious and Tactitus.
So I am into this subject but not religious anymore. So far scholars have looked at it this way:
1. Book of Mark probably written about 55 - 65 AD near Rome or in Rome based on writting style and events (Jesus said ressurection would happen in disciples lifetime and no mention of the destruction of the temple in 70 AD yet). Jesus is not God and became raised to diven status after death (the later paragraph was forged where he resurrected due to writting style differences and grammar)
2.: Q (this is a document used to create Luke and Mathew as it was obviously copied as too much looks verbatim. We do not know name or have surving copies) 70 - 85 AD. Mathew and Luke used Q and Mathew used Mark. Jesus now was made devine at his baptism. THe texts were corrupted as one version in 120 AD quoted paslm 29 where Jesus was made devine at the baptism to something that just re-affirms he already is devine.
3. Book of John he always was God and was creater of world circa 95 AD to 100 AD
So yes the NT is problematic as it is biased but historians use the information out of it by looking for similarities. So no smoking gun but it is not like we have 0 evidence at all.
There were vineyards in Scotland and diaries of vikings in Iceland tell of a land as warm as Europe. Orange trees were grown in parts of temperate China and northern Italy.
When it came to an end it started the little ice age which called all of the above to this day never recovered.
Oh there is not to say I am religious, but I just got into a flame war on that thread tonight with a fellow atheist.
Besides a few extreme not credible nutcases like Richard Carrier no biblical scholar agrees he never existed. Bart Ehrman in the link above is an agnostic atheist so no hidden agenda. But like what the previous poster said about Ron Hubbard existing doesn't mean I believe in Scientology.
Less than 3% of people could read or write and even less in rural areas so this means writtings for anything were scarce.
Josephus, and others quoted Jesus existing and even the problem gospels and Gnostic manuscripts that didn't make the cut (don't believe he is God btw ) have similarity. Paul mentioned meeting Peter and James. I think James would know he had a brother. Also Paul heard of Jesus far away near The Turkey which means Jews passed on Jesus to his synagogue.
The fact the early Christians did not consider Jesus God as evident in the book of Mark disproves Richard Carrier theory of how he got invented.
Or dump Safari the IE 6 of this decade?
It lacks many HTML 5 features and mac users never upgrade and still use 2009 snow leopard with Safari 4 which makes IE look cutting edge in comparison. I saw a statistic a year or two ago showing 1/3 of Mac users had ancient versions of Mac OSx.
Use Chrome
So?
MS like any organization makes great and crappy software.
So they make mediocre operating systems. They do make excellent business software and good development software like C# and visual studio. Gnu makes great operating systems and ok development software.
Use the right tool for the job. It is open source and compiles to JavaScript so no locking. Why can't ms make something good considering no one makes everything good? Are you that biased?
But are they webscale?
Because websites still use JavaScript for client side stuff. Typescript makes this job easier and oddly use JavaScript like a byte code in Java where it compiles to JavaScript so it works in every browser or mobile app
Even if you use LibreOffice I am sure you have word and excel documents lying around. If you do real work or a college student you are going to be emailed office documents.
Americans are super divided and some would rather have Putin pick Trump than risk a Hilary sadly for ideological reasons.
It's not a conspiracy, when the evidence says its fact.
Microsoft haven't changed. They still want to embrace, extend, extinguish. In fact, they've even expanded to include Linux development internally, and commercially, in the only space where their OS gets beat performance-wise bar none: server side. If that fact doesn't raise an eyebrow, your either younger than you post, or a denial shill. Or both.
bahaha
Ok ignore the fact it comes with a strange HD/SSD hybrid. Instead of Linux not supporting the driver it IS ALL MY GOD LOOK MS IS BEING EVIL. These comments remind of when foxnews.com had a comment section and reading the replies about anything Obama. Tinfoil hats indeed
I swear slashdot has turned into the fox news of computers. I have to go to meowing.net to hear both sides as journalism and comments are so poor and slanted.
FYI my MS surface pro 3 with signature Windows runs Ubuntu just fine without secure boot and even with! Intel owns the UEFI spec and not MS.
Sheesh folks
Also Lenovo is in my do not buy list due to spearfish and using Windows Store to reinstall malware since they label them as drivers. It is a junk Chinese company
But this is slashdot. It all is a vast conspiracy and MS and Windows have not changed in 20 years
Citation?
Now it won't ever be implemented. Shoot we would still be having an IE 6 internet too if it were not for MS forcing corps to stop using it. People hate change and it is impossible unless you kill the original but good luck as Swift is open source
It wont ever be implemented as long as the previous is supported. Shoot my employer still supports IE 6 and would only still use it if MS didn't force change.
I said the same comment on previous story with Swift. People never learn once something is etched it is the word of God and is almost impossible to change
It is a slow insecure piece of crap and worse it is owned by Oracle! Let it die and do not feed Oracle anymore mindshare by supporting it.
I know it is in use and entrenched like Cobol and VB 6 in the enterprise and did have promise back in the day, but I consider it contaminated. The fact that you can be used by using it and extorted to an Oracle RDBMS license at anytime for using an API is a big risk. Yes, Oracle stated this in court against Google.
The more we geeks fight back and switch to something like C++ or even Mono the sooner we won't have to depend on it.
I would argue a tastier ketchup is worth more. People value it and are willing to pay for it which in return employees people to boot as well. A VC that attracts customers is worthy to the employees and the customers. All which re-invest the everyone else to help eliminate hunger as the trajectory and speed of the money supply being moved in the economy are signs of economic growth and everyone benefiting from it
You didn't starve tonight did you? Someone gave you food or the ingredients to make you food just like helping a poor person. You received that for your contribution to society determined by your worth your employer sets for their needs.
Any business that creates a job is the best humanitarian there is!
LIKE sYRIA
Sony is one other.
If this is certified to run Linux you can bet the drivers will be included on the system which is why it is $150 more than the win 10 version.
The other distros will get the drivers soon too as Intel is Foss friendly. Problem is the users want a solid distribution so the kernel and software maybe slightly older
Dell is notorious for having 2 different products with the same model name. If one sound chip is $.03 cheaper they replace it. Same with mixing LAN, storage, video etc. It sucks bad downloading drivers for executives as you can have +30 drivers all different for each same model all with their own quirks.
The Linux model probably has the same parts and is tested for compability with drivers. You know it will work well basically which is a plus
The rest of the world is moving forward. You do not see megachurches in places like France or Sweden? You do not see crazy fundamentalists who think anyone who wants bathrooms for both genders is not an evil communist out to destroy freedom.
It is driving me crazy and fundamentalists churches are GROWING! Liberal churches I see are declining but it is 2016 and not 1816. I would think with more educated people you would see a declining faith.
THe Mormon and fundamentalist churches are the ones who demand 15% which is why it is so high in the US.