I've gotta get a plug in for fellow Nacogdoches, Texas (the place where the shuttle came down...so to speak) resident Joe Landsdale, who wrote the short story on which the movie was based. He's written quite a few horror novels, most of them set in the East Texas area. He's probably best known for his novel 'Bad Chili'. Check out his website.
This country, including most "liberals" balk at even the most minor shifts towards "social democratic" type of institutions, which are a far cry from socialism.
When Dennis Kucinich claimed that we needed to remove the "profit component" from medicine in Tuesday night's presidential debate, it sure sounded like socialism to me.
After spending millions to do this and after a team of researchers and scholars intensely scrutinize the data, they'll like determine that attendance and effort directly correlate to good grades. All of the educrats in HISD will then pat themselves on the back so hard their lungs will collapse.
It wasn't a Democratic president that called the Soviet Union an "Evil Empire".
I'm curious. How many millions must be killed before a nation can be labeled "evil"?
It wasn't a Democratic president that labelled a number of foreign countries the "Axis of Evil"
And by the looks of it, he was much more accurate than anyone ever dreamed when he first made the statement. Now that Hussein is gone, we've uncovered mass graves and released children from prison in Iraq. North Korea has acknowledged a nuclear program and we've only heard bits and pieces of the true horrors that take place there. Just today I read where U.N. inspectors have found enriched uranium in environmental samples taken in Iran, which could mean Tehran has been purifying uranium without informing the U.N. nuclear watchdog. I vividly remember the knee-jerk reactions to what Bush said but history will show that he was right.
and declared a "Crusade" against terrorists
One of the definitions for crusade is "A vigorous concerted movement for a cause or against an abuse". That sounds right.
The Republicans, at least in recent memory, use far more of the religious and moral symbols in their politics
Here's what Jonah Goldberg of National Review had to say about this idea: "Everyone moralizes. The suggestion that liberals aren't moralizers is so preposterous it makes it hard for me to take any of them seriously when they wax indignant about "moralizers." Almost everyday, they tell us what is moral or immoral to think and to say about race, taxes, abortion -- you name it. They explain it would be immoral for me to spend more of my own money on my own children when that money could be spent by government on other peoples' children. In short, they think moralizing is fine. They just want to have a monopoly on the franchise."
Maybe you are right, but these examples you gave aren't very convincing.
Hey you are right, you can't deduct a campaign contribution. Being that I've never contributed to any type of campaign, it doesn't really matter to me.
By the way, just how stupid do you feel right now?
Well I can always take solace in the fact that you're the proud Democrat.
And this seems like a good idea to you? Can think of a way to violate a person's privacy that's much worse? Why not just have a big sign over the voting booth that lights up to show which candidate they voted for? It's crap like that making me proud to be a Democrat.
You've got to be kidding. If you give money to a campaign it's public knowledge through the IRS, if you deduct your contribution (which any reasonable person would do).
Clinton isn't the one that killed president@whitehouse.gov. Bush is.
Really? Clinton paid attention to president@whitehouse.gov? I've got some beachfront property outside of Omaha I'd like to sell you.
Maybe if you'd spent that effort trying to convince the people that live next door instead of the president, you'd eventually get somewhere. The only way you're ever going to get anything accomplished is via a grass-roots effort.
What'd you expect though, a phone call from Cheney or a letter from the secretary with a brief scribble like you got from your Rep? Did your letter actually affect your congressman's opinion or did you just want his acknowledgement? Seriously though, your post sounds so incredibly disingenous (once ever six months, before an invasion...are you kidding?) I can't imagine that your wife's snail mail was written with any sincerity, so I don't have a lot of pity for the fact that the president didn't drop everything to justify your need for acknowledgement.
The Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign has posted their donor list for the most recent quarter on the web. It not only includes the names of contributors but also the size of their donations. Interestingly, a large majority of the contributors to the Bush campaign contributed less than $200.
The campaign Web site www.georgewbush.com on Tuesday posted collection plate statistics that reveal the names of more than 105,000 individuals who have given $1 or more to the re-election campaign. The list includes information on 85,591 individuals who have given less than $200, as well as larger donation contributors.
Don't hold your breath waiting for any candidate from the "party of the people" to make a similar disclosure. One of the closely guarded secrets that is an embarassment to the Democratic party is that the size of the average donation to their party is larger than the average size contributed to the Republican party. In fact, the mean size of political donations to the RNC during the past election cycle was about $50. The Democrats (always taking the moral high ground) claim that the mean size of contributions is unimportant and will not publish it for that reason and because it somehow would invade the privacy of their contributing base in aggregate.
The Democrats also have the whole problem of Chinese-Americans and foreign companies funneling millions from the Chinese government into Bill Clinton's re-election campaign in 1996 (during the same time period Chinese received favored trade status and managed to pilfer nuclear used-to-be-secrets).
In sum, your statement could easily be: You want to talk to any elected official? It's easy -- just raise $100,000 for his/her re-election campaign and you'll get 10 minutes of face time! No problem.
yet here the reasons for the Iraq war are being systematically deconstructed, and no-one seems to give a damn
So I guess we should cover up all of those mass graves, put all those children back in prison, get Chemical Ali back into the lab, get those torture racks greased, throw all of those 'Big Brother Saddam' pictures back up in Baghdad, and leave a fruit basket with a letter of apology. You're right...we are indeed in the Twilight Zone.
What a crazy world we live in where a guy who's chief sin is being a conservative is demonized more than a man who has murdered 100s of thousands of innocent people who simply disagreed with him. You leftist lemmings were all chiming in with you "What did he know and when did he know it?" garbage post-9/11. The CIA came forward that they had some very vague information and reactionaries like yourself screamed that they should have figured it all out and kept 9/11 from happening. Now you are pissed that the CIA and our president moved based on information that wasn't 100% complete.
You sound partisan, bitter, and illogical. You and your ilk have offered nothing but criticism. No solutions. Just pissing and moaning. You have built your platform on the hopes that the United States will fail in its endeavours. That is disgusting.
I mean really, why should we give a damn. It's still blatant speculation, just like the speculation that this would be "another Vietname" and "a quagmire". People that think just like you have been wrong over and over again, so many times, but you still get up and scream this same bullshit at the top of your lungs. That's what people should be giving a damn about.
The fact is, the United States had moral, legal, and political justification for removing Saddam Hussein. The world is a safer place for both Americans and Iraqis today than it was a few months ago, and it cost fewer lives than anyone estimated. A people who have experienced oppression you will NEVER comprehend are now free. I'll never forget the images of those Iraqis beating that Saddam statue with the shoes off of their feet. It's a shame you have forgotten, or maybe you never opened your eyes up enough to see.
BioPassword unfortunately suffers from a habit of producing false rejections. It really diminishes its usability. BioPassword's best trait is that it doesn't require an additional hardware purchase to work. Several high profile banks inspected BioPassword to determine whether they could use it for identity authentication within the context of online purchases. They came to the conclusion that it wasn't usable enough.
I think many people miss the boat when it comes to biometric identity authentication. The fact is, any security protocol can be exploited. The idea is to make it a protocol difficult enough to exploit so that it isn't in the best interests of an attacker to go after whatever is being secured. It's like cryptography. There is no unbreakable code or cipher, but there are codes that are difficult enough to break that it isn't worth the time or effort required to break them.
Then maybe the situation the story submitter has found himself in should be a valuable lesson to the rest of us. Just because you make X dollars doesn't mean you should spend X dollars. You desperately need to have yourself some sort of savings or reserve capital just in case you do find yourself in a poor work situation. Then you can be your own master instead of being totally anchored down by your existing job.
I said it before and I will say it again. If you don't have the latitude in your life to quit your job, you are at the mercy of your employer.
That's great that you are so concerned about paying your rent and that's why, if you had actually read my post, you'd have seen this line:
I know its hard to quit when you have mouths to feed, etc., but if quitting is not an option, you're really at their mercy.
Fair enough...it's worth it to you to pay your bills and take what your boss gives you. I completely respect that, but if its not an option for you then you are really at their mercy.
If you cave on this, they might throw you a bone (they might give you a 3 day weekend or two). If you're succesful and you deliver a good product, your management won't have to think twice about doing this to you again. The fact that your management isn't willing to throw a carrot out there up front tells me they aren't going to make competent decisions in the future.
I know its hard to quit when you have mouths to feed, etc., but if quitting is not an option, you're really at their mercy.
This is somewhat offtopic but I wanted to give you guys a different perspective on shuttle related issues.
I live in Nacogdoches (Nak-ah-doh-chez), Texas, the place where most of the shuttle debris fell. Once upon a time, NASA news hardly even made the paper. All that has changed. Everytime a NASA scientist sneezes, the local paper mentions it.
A few weeks ago I was fortunate enough to hear the local sherrif Thomas Kerss talk about the disaster plan he and other local officials dynamically implemented to handle the shuttle disaster and the ongoing recovery effort. There is no template for a disaster like this in any city office our county office in the nation, so local officials had to act fast to keep local residents safe, to manage the recovery effort, and to manage the press surrounding the event. They did such a great job that there is now a template for disasters like the Columbia disaster and its called the "Nacogdoches Plan".
The recovery effort that Sherriff Kerss and others implemented was especially lauded, as the Sherriff quickly received assistance from the Stephen F. Austin State University Geosciences lab and the SFA Forestry department (the finest in the nation). By using the maps provided by the geosciences lab, they divided the area where the shuttle fell into blocks of a few acres in size. They immediately dispatched deputies armed with GPS locators to locations where citizens were reporting fallen debris. The deputies would identify the debris, call in their location to central command, and central command would mark the detailed maps with the locations of debris and descriptions of what was there. For debris locations in public places and for important items, national guardsmen or law enforcement officials were dispatched to guard those places.
Seeing that the shuttle will fly again soon is fantastic news and is what everyone in this area has been hoping for. They talked about changing the landing flight path so that they won't go over populous locations but I'm not sure if that's been decided yet. I figured they start landing it in California as rule like it used to be. If not, I can guarantee that the majority of East Texans will be trying to catch a glimpse of the shuttle when it flies overhead on its way to Cape Canaveral.
Didn't read my history [wikipedia.org] link, did you.
We seem to be referring to do different things. There's no question that the arrangement of the Bible has changed. It's well documented and most certainly admitted by any reputable biblical scholar. In fact, anyone suggesting otherwise is flat wrong, without question, and should be removed from your list of critical thinkers.
However, the contents of the scripture, the individual lines of scripture and the message that the scripture conveys, is remarkably true to the original. You should check out Geisler's book "Christian Apologetics" for some interesting information on the reliability of scripture and for a comparison of how well the original manuscripts stack up against the commonly accepted translations of today.
How about the fact that even today not all sects agree on the same canon, let alone on the translation and interpretation of its contents?
Now it appears you are talking about two different things. The assertion, at least as far as I understood it, was that some group was actually manipulating the source material, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls. This idea is obviously false.
People will always manipulate scripture to try and support their own desires. The scripture even predicts that very thing. But the scripture itself (speaking in terms of the source material) has not changed.
In case you weren't aware, Artisan just released a remastered version of Terminator 2 and has bundled in what it calls the "Extreme Edition". On the second disk, there is a pseudo high-def version of the movie (720P) in WM9 format. It takes a beast of a PC to play it, but it is really, really cool. If you have a good HTPC, you can watch a high-def version of a great movie on your high-def TV. The best thing is that it fits on one DVD with no problem. Sure, it might compress the video a little too much and the sound isn't full-bitrate DTS or DD-EX, but it's at least a taste of what's to come when a HD-DVD standard emerges.
It doesn't matter to me whether it's Microsoft, Apple, or whoever that's doing it. I'm just glad someone is trying to move us forward.
Microsoft haters: this post does not address the fears you have of whether or not Microsoft will take over the living room and it's not meant to.
Although it's not a programming language, I've found that most of the kids getting into programming these days started by making web pages in HTML. As they wanted to do more on the web, they opened up to scripting languages, like JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, PHP, etc. That eventually led them to CGI scripting or writing Java Applets and it has progressed from there.
Most hardcore types probably cringe at the thought, but web development is really the catalyst into getting many kids interested in programming.
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I've gotta get a plug in for fellow Nacogdoches, Texas (the place where the shuttle came down...so to speak) resident Joe Landsdale, who wrote the short story on which the movie was based. He's written quite a few horror novels, most of them set in the East Texas area. He's probably best known for his novel 'Bad Chili'. Check out his website.
This country, including most "liberals" balk at even the most minor shifts towards "social democratic" type of institutions, which are a far cry from socialism.
When Dennis Kucinich claimed that we needed to remove the "profit component" from medicine in Tuesday night's presidential debate, it sure sounded like socialism to me.
Ditches don't dig themselves!
Skynet has us by the balls now!
To crush the enemy. To see him driven before you. To hear the lamentations of the women.
After spending millions to do this and after a team of researchers and scholars intensely scrutinize the data, they'll like determine that attendance and effort directly correlate to good grades. All of the educrats in HISD will then pat themselves on the back so hard their lungs will collapse.
Let's take this item by item:
It wasn't a Democratic president that called the Soviet Union an "Evil Empire".
I'm curious. How many millions must be killed before a nation can be labeled "evil"?
It wasn't a Democratic president that labelled a number of foreign countries the "Axis of Evil"
And by the looks of it, he was much more accurate than anyone ever dreamed when he first made the statement. Now that Hussein is gone, we've uncovered mass graves and released children from prison in Iraq. North Korea has acknowledged a nuclear program and we've only heard bits and pieces of the true horrors that take place there. Just today I read where U.N. inspectors have found enriched uranium in environmental samples taken in Iran, which could mean Tehran has been purifying uranium without informing the U.N. nuclear watchdog. I vividly remember the knee-jerk reactions to what Bush said but history will show that he was right.
and declared a "Crusade" against terrorists
One of the definitions for crusade is "A vigorous concerted movement for a cause or against an abuse". That sounds right.
The Republicans, at least in recent memory, use far more of the religious and moral symbols in their politics
Here's what Jonah Goldberg of National Review had to say about this idea: "Everyone moralizes. The suggestion that liberals aren't moralizers is so preposterous it makes it hard for me to take any of them seriously when they wax indignant about "moralizers." Almost everyday, they tell us what is moral or immoral to think and to say about race, taxes, abortion -- you name it. They explain it would be immoral for me to spend more of my own money on my own children when that money could be spent by government on other peoples' children. In short, they think moralizing is fine. They just want to have a monopoly on the franchise."
Maybe you are right, but these examples you gave aren't very convincing.
Hey you are right, you can't deduct a campaign contribution. Being that I've never contributed to any type of campaign, it doesn't really matter to me.
By the way, just how stupid do you feel right now?
Well I can always take solace in the fact that you're the proud Democrat.
And this seems like a good idea to you? Can think of a way to violate a person's privacy that's much worse? Why not just have a big sign over the voting booth that lights up to show which candidate they voted for? It's crap like that making me proud to be a Democrat.
You've got to be kidding. If you give money to a campaign it's public knowledge through the IRS, if you deduct your contribution (which any reasonable person would do).
Clinton isn't the one that killed president@whitehouse.gov. Bush is.
Really? Clinton paid attention to president@whitehouse.gov? I've got some beachfront property outside of Omaha I'd like to sell you.
Maybe if you'd spent that effort trying to convince the people that live next door instead of the president, you'd eventually get somewhere. The only way you're ever going to get anything accomplished is via a grass-roots effort.
What'd you expect though, a phone call from Cheney or a letter from the secretary with a brief scribble like you got from your Rep? Did your letter actually affect your congressman's opinion or did you just want his acknowledgement? Seriously though, your post sounds so incredibly disingenous (once ever six months, before an invasion...are you kidding?) I can't imagine that your wife's snail mail was written with any sincerity, so I don't have a lot of pity for the fact that the president didn't drop everything to justify your need for acknowledgement.
The Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign has posted their donor list for the most recent quarter on the web. It not only includes the names of contributors but also the size of their donations. Interestingly, a large majority of the contributors to the Bush campaign contributed less than $200.
The campaign Web site www.georgewbush.com on Tuesday posted collection plate statistics that reveal the names of more than 105,000 individuals who have given $1 or more to the re-election campaign. The list includes information on 85,591 individuals who have given less than $200, as well as larger donation contributors.
Don't hold your breath waiting for any candidate from the "party of the people" to make a similar disclosure. One of the closely guarded secrets that is an embarassment to the Democratic party is that the size of the average donation to their party is larger than the average size contributed to the Republican party. In fact, the mean size of political donations to the RNC during the past election cycle was about $50. The Democrats (always taking the moral high ground) claim that the mean size of contributions is unimportant and will not publish it for that reason and because it somehow would invade the privacy of their contributing base in aggregate.
The Democrats also have the whole problem of Chinese-Americans and foreign companies funneling millions from the Chinese government into Bill Clinton's re-election campaign in 1996 (during the same time period Chinese received favored trade status and managed to pilfer nuclear used-to-be-secrets).
In sum, your statement could easily be:
You want to talk to any elected official? It's easy -- just raise $100,000 for his/her re-election campaign and you'll get 10 minutes of face time! No problem.
yet here the reasons for the Iraq war are being systematically deconstructed, and no-one seems to give a damn
So I guess we should cover up all of those mass graves, put all those children back in prison, get Chemical Ali back into the lab, get those torture racks greased, throw all of those 'Big Brother Saddam' pictures back up in Baghdad, and leave a fruit basket with a letter of apology. You're right...we are indeed in the Twilight Zone.
What a crazy world we live in where a guy who's chief sin is being a conservative is demonized more than a man who has murdered 100s of thousands of innocent people who simply disagreed with him. You leftist lemmings were all chiming in with you "What did he know and when did he know it?" garbage post-9/11. The CIA came forward that they had some very vague information and reactionaries like yourself screamed that they should have figured it all out and kept 9/11 from happening. Now you are pissed that the CIA and our president moved based on information that wasn't 100% complete.
You sound partisan, bitter, and illogical. You and your ilk have offered nothing but criticism. No solutions. Just pissing and moaning. You have built your platform on the hopes that the United States will fail in its endeavours. That is disgusting.
I mean really, why should we give a damn. It's still blatant speculation, just like the speculation that this would be "another Vietname" and "a quagmire". People that think just like you have been wrong over and over again, so many times, but you still get up and scream this same bullshit at the top of your lungs. That's what people should be giving a damn about.
The fact is, the United States had moral, legal, and political justification for removing Saddam Hussein. The world is a safer place for both Americans and Iraqis today than it was a few months ago, and it cost fewer lives than anyone estimated. A people who have experienced oppression you will NEVER comprehend are now free. I'll never forget the images of those Iraqis beating that Saddam statue with the shoes off of their feet. It's a shame you have forgotten, or maybe you never opened your eyes up enough to see.
BioPassword unfortunately suffers from a habit of producing false rejections. It really diminishes its usability. BioPassword's best trait is that it doesn't require an additional hardware purchase to work. Several high profile banks inspected BioPassword to determine whether they could use it for identity authentication within the context of online purchases. They came to the conclusion that it wasn't usable enough.
I think many people miss the boat when it comes to biometric identity authentication. The fact is, any security protocol can be exploited. The idea is to make it a protocol difficult enough to exploit so that it isn't in the best interests of an attacker to go after whatever is being secured. It's like cryptography. There is no unbreakable code or cipher, but there are codes that are difficult enough to break that it isn't worth the time or effort required to break them.
Then maybe the situation the story submitter has found himself in should be a valuable lesson to the rest of us. Just because you make X dollars doesn't mean you should spend X dollars. You desperately need to have yourself some sort of savings or reserve capital just in case you do find yourself in a poor work situation. Then you can be your own master instead of being totally anchored down by your existing job.
I said it before and I will say it again. If you don't have the latitude in your life to quit your job, you are at the mercy of your employer.
That's great that you are so concerned about paying your rent and that's why, if you had actually read my post, you'd have seen this line:
I know its hard to quit when you have mouths to feed, etc., but if quitting is not an option, you're really at their mercy.
Fair enough...it's worth it to you to pay your bills and take what your boss gives you. I completely respect that, but if its not an option for you then you are really at their mercy.
Q-U-I-T
If you cave on this, they might throw you a bone (they might give you a 3 day weekend or two). If you're succesful and you deliver a good product, your management won't have to think twice about doing this to you again. The fact that your management isn't willing to throw a carrot out there up front tells me they aren't going to make competent decisions in the future.
I know its hard to quit when you have mouths to feed, etc., but if quitting is not an option, you're really at their mercy.
This is somewhat offtopic but I wanted to give you guys a different perspective on shuttle related issues.
I live in Nacogdoches (Nak-ah-doh-chez), Texas, the place where most of the shuttle debris fell. Once upon a time, NASA news hardly even made the paper. All that has changed. Everytime a NASA scientist sneezes, the local paper mentions it.
A few weeks ago I was fortunate enough to hear the local sherrif Thomas Kerss talk about the disaster plan he and other local officials dynamically implemented to handle the shuttle disaster and the ongoing recovery effort. There is no template for a disaster like this in any city office our county office in the nation, so local officials had to act fast to keep local residents safe, to manage the recovery effort, and to manage the press surrounding the event. They did such a great job that there is now a template for disasters like the Columbia disaster and its called the "Nacogdoches Plan".
The recovery effort that Sherriff Kerss and others implemented was especially lauded, as the Sherriff quickly received assistance from the Stephen F. Austin State University Geosciences lab and the SFA Forestry department (the finest in the nation). By using the maps provided by the geosciences lab, they divided the area where the shuttle fell into blocks of a few acres in size. They immediately dispatched deputies armed with GPS locators to locations where citizens were reporting fallen debris. The deputies would identify the debris, call in their location to central command, and central command would mark the detailed maps with the locations of debris and descriptions of what was there. For debris locations in public places and for important items, national guardsmen or law enforcement officials were dispatched to guard those places.
The recovery is ongoing and like some have said, they will be finding things for at least another decade. In fact, its rumored that they've found a mini-cassette that might provide insight into Columbia's last moments.
Seeing that the shuttle will fly again soon is fantastic news and is what everyone in this area has been hoping for. They talked about changing the landing flight path so that they won't go over populous locations but I'm not sure if that's been decided yet. I figured they start landing it in California as rule like it used to be. If not, I can guarantee that the majority of East Texans will be trying to catch a glimpse of the shuttle when it flies overhead on its way to Cape Canaveral.
Didn't read my history [wikipedia.org] link, did you.
We seem to be referring to do different things. There's no question that the arrangement of the Bible has changed. It's well documented and most certainly admitted by any reputable biblical scholar. In fact, anyone suggesting otherwise is flat wrong, without question, and should be removed from your list of critical thinkers.
However, the contents of the scripture, the individual lines of scripture and the message that the scripture conveys, is remarkably true to the original. You should check out Geisler's book "Christian Apologetics" for some interesting information on the reliability of scripture and for a comparison of how well the original manuscripts stack up against the commonly accepted translations of today.
How about the fact that even today not all sects agree on the same canon, let alone on the translation and interpretation of its contents?
Now it appears you are talking about two different things. The assertion, at least as far as I understood it, was that some group was actually manipulating the source material, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls. This idea is obviously false.
People will always manipulate scripture to try and support their own desires. The scripture even predicts that very thing. But the scripture itself (speaking in terms of the source material) has not changed.
In case you weren't aware, Artisan just released a remastered version of Terminator 2 and has bundled in what it calls the "Extreme Edition". On the second disk, there is a pseudo high-def version of the movie (720P) in WM9 format. It takes a beast of a PC to play it, but it is really, really cool. If you have a good HTPC, you can watch a high-def version of a great movie on your high-def TV. The best thing is that it fits on one DVD with no problem. Sure, it might compress the video a little too much and the sound isn't full-bitrate DTS or DD-EX, but it's at least a taste of what's to come when a HD-DVD standard emerges.
It doesn't matter to me whether it's Microsoft, Apple, or whoever that's doing it. I'm just glad someone is trying to move us forward.
Microsoft haters: this post does not address the fears you have of whether or not Microsoft will take over the living room and it's not meant to.
...and this gem for you COBOL fans out there (yes, both of you):
The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence. (Edsger Dijkstra)
Although it's not a programming language, I've found that most of the kids getting into programming these days started by making web pages in HTML. As they wanted to do more on the web, they opened up to scripting languages, like JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, PHP, etc. That eventually led them to CGI scripting or writing Java Applets and it has progressed from there.
Most hardcore types probably cringe at the thought, but web development is really the catalyst into getting many kids interested in programming.
You can buy the original on DVD. SciFi was showing the original series not too long ago as well. Maybe this will prompt them to bring it back.
Is that a sewer pipe sticking out of the cliff?
Ummmm....it's the Republicans who are CUTTING taxes. Not sure what rectal cavern you pulled that comment out of.