I know of absolutely no one who actually uses the Windows "Profiles" version of multiuser
Now you know someone! The family computer at home runs Windoze NT4 (with 5 different users) and I have it NTFS formatted, I use the user Profiles and rights to a certain extent. None of my family is allowed to install anything and if they try the I'll scream their heads off. (A strategy that works quite well) Yes, I'm paranoid, I know...but it's the only way to keep the system relatively clean and stable. As soon as you've got more than 2 users on the same machine you need some kind of management or it goes right to catastrophy. I once reinstalled the PC of a family with 6 (!) Their box kept crashing and new installs of W9x kept going wrong after 2 months of operation. As soon as I installed NT4 with appropriate user-management it worked like a dream for them.
And don't start that I should have installed Linux, because I already tried it for myself and I'm just not convinced. My P120 with 1.2Gig harddisk (my own computer which I use on daily basis != the family computer) works fine with W95-OSR2 and I tried different Linux distro's (RedHat, Corel and SuSE) and I didn't manage to install something working with X under 900Meg. Without X it's probably crammable on some 100Meg distro (Yup ZipSlack runs pretty fine), but then it's just not useable for my brother/sister/mother. Compare it to 300Meg for a W95 with all the rimram installed. The day Linux will be easily installable (without httpd, sendmail etc by default)and relatively lightweight, then it will be ready for desktop...not a second before.
I'm way Oftopic by now...sorry....gonna post it anyway ^_^
Yup, WAP is a joke: I don't even see in what way it could be useful (Sidenote: As far as I understood every mobile manufacturer has his own standard *sigh*)
Some weeks ago a coworker brought his fancy WAP-phone and showed us (for a laugh) a WAP p0rn site... It was hilarious!
Nobody would seriously surf that way (tiny screen, low-res). What was the initial idea of WAP anyway?
I know this is going to sound very cheesy....but I fully agree with you. The fuel consumption is horrendous in the beasts they drive in the US: don't even try to compare a 2.6l engine made in the states with one made in Europe.
My dad drives a 10-year old 2.6l powered car and uses less than 11l/100km...which would be 4.44 gallon/100miles (I could be miscalculating). At least to be a bit comparative (and thus fair) I surfed to some US car constructors ( this and this one), but they only indicate mileage by "20 city, 28 highway"...without units...how can I compare without units?
Europeans are forced to watch for the fuel consumption (which is a big saling point here), and Americans are not. Environments just has nothing to do with it...only money...unfortunatley!
Are you serious about just-out-of-college programmers that never "saw" a CLI? Errr, I came out of University two years ago and all of my fellow students knew to use good 'ol faithful command line: in Windoze and in *Nix. Perhaps you should start hiring programmers from other colleges;-)
Sidenote: if a kid asks me how to learn to program, I give him four things:
A book about programming
The command line
A command line compiler
A text editor
I learned it that way, anyone should be able to learn it that way....
I fully agree with you.
I have 3 machines at home which all are used to surf (shared line, you know...IP masquerading). So imagine what I have to do, to install a newer version of any installer-stub-based programs: yup, indeed....download it three times! *sigh*
Besides I love to have a backup-copy on a Zip or Jaz disk in case something really-really-bad happens to any of my machines: simple reinstall...
I live in Europe too, btw....and in a country that doesn't have DSL or Cable yet.:-(
I heard this before that there won't be a line of Transmeta desktop machine, and I always wonder *why*. I mean, it's a chip that doesn't heat up much so you could ban all the fans out of your computer and enjoy silence (or your MP3's).
Besides, as far as I understood the Transmeta chips will be quite powerful and cheap (?). So why not spare a couple of bucks and make the secretary do her Word 2002 work on a Transmeta-based chip.
Heck, even I would be sign up for a desktop Transmeta....I just code, and I don't mind getting coffee when the project compiles;-)
Plus, I think it would be cool for use with Seti@Home
I agree, that would be cool....but did you think about the implications:
Where do you store the (huge amount) data. I bet such a thing won't have 2Megs of RAM.
How do you get the data on your watch? (IR?)
How does the watch tell you number crunching is done and needs new data to crunch? (Not to forget the data it has to send to seti@home)
How do you start/stop the jobs: if won't come with a fully functional keyboard. Would you ssh to it via the IR link?
Will it show the fancy graphics Seti@Home makes;-)
Not to break down a nice geek-toy, but it has little or no use at all...It's just nice to show (brag) it can be done. Besides, I don't even wear a watch anymore: I'm always in vicinity of computers and those always have a time-indicator anway.
Yes, I know that....But try getting hold on a full (complete) copy of IE4 nowadays... I only can find the stupid stub-installer. And even that didn't work. Besides, I strongly dislike IE4.
God, I must be bored! I actually write replies to AC's!
Well, I do realise that you meant that funny....But actually I still run Win95-OSR1 without Internet Explorer and guess what... more and more programs just refuse to work on that platform. So I will be forced to upgrade one day.
It's just the way I was forced to upgrade from from my beloved Wordperfect 5.1 (DOS) to Winblows Word with paperclip:-(
I think that the AC referred to "definately", which is written "definitely". An you're right: I had to look it up too as a native Dutch speaker.:-) "Jazeker...er zijn er nog nederlandstaligen op slashdot"
Cool! I'd never think of such a trick....is there a similar trick under Winblows (using Netscape)?
Right now I automatically delete the cookie.txt file at bootup (Dayly bootup anyay), but I'm not sure if it works well: for example I always have to log *twice* into/.
I've read the read-only trick too, I'm going to try that but I'd appreciate other solutions.
You know what: I ran Windows NT4 without service pack on a Pentium 90 with 24Meg RAM...and it worked just fine...until I decided to install the service pack (don't even ask which one..I forgot), then it became a joke.
Windows 95 OSR1 works just fine on a 486DX/2-66 with 16Meg RAM as long as you don't start using a gazillion different programs at the same time. My sister uses it to make type her homework in Word (with paperclip on! -> Well actually it's the little Einstein but who cares)
What point was I trying to make? Ah! Yes...use the machine for what it was built for an not for what is standard now. I've seen people complain that their "older" PC got unbaringly slow because they installed Window 98 and kept installing new soft all the time... *sigh* Normally those people just buy a new machine like nice little consumers ought to do.
I actually tried it on my P120 at home;-) Well, drank some cups of coffee while waiting it to start up. Worked pretty fine after it started up tough. (Tried M16 as far as I recall) But considering the huge startup time I had to get back to Netscape 4.7x (which starts pretty fast)...There is no way that Internet Explorer is going to be installed on my machine! (Yes, at work I'm forced to use it *sigh*)
What Jefferson was describing was the reality of the modern-day Internet, especially the rapidly-proliferating open source and open media idea: an environment using point-to-point, distributed architecture to move ideas freely and all over the world.
So Thomas Jefferson invented the internet and not Al Gore? My world collapses!
And on a side note, when did showing someone smoke on TV become unacceptable?
It's not only on TV you know. Remember Lucky Luke comics (and later cartoons). Originally he smoked cigarettes all the time (like "real" cowboys do). Someone came up with the idea that he would be a bad example for the kids so they replaced the cigarette with a grass-straw. All this stuff happenend really long ago (more than 20 years IIRC) Of course it's not Japanse Anime...:-)
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Now you know someone! The family computer at home runs Windoze NT4 (with 5 different users) and I have it NTFS formatted, I use the user Profiles and rights to a certain extent. None of my family is allowed to install anything and if they try the I'll scream their heads off. (A strategy that works quite well)
Yes, I'm paranoid, I know...but it's the only way to keep the system relatively clean and stable.
As soon as you've got more than 2 users on the same machine you need some kind of management or it goes right to catastrophy. I once reinstalled the PC of a family with 6 (!) Their box kept crashing and new installs of W9x kept going wrong after 2 months of operation. As soon as I installed NT4 with appropriate user-management it worked like a dream for them.
And don't start that I should have installed Linux, because I already tried it for myself and I'm just not convinced. My P120 with 1.2Gig harddisk (my own computer which I use on daily basis != the family computer) works fine with W95-OSR2 and I tried different Linux distro's (RedHat, Corel and SuSE) and I didn't manage to install something working with X under 900Meg. Without X it's probably crammable on some 100Meg distro (Yup ZipSlack runs pretty fine), but then it's just not useable for my brother/sister/mother. Compare it to 300Meg for a W95 with all the rimram installed. The day Linux will be easily installable (without httpd, sendmail etc by default)and relatively lightweight, then it will be ready for desktop...not a second before.
I'm way Oftopic by now...sorry....gonna post it anyway ^_^
Well, I woudn't tip Britney Spears....But I'd be willing to pay for "services" *evil grin*
Some weeks ago a coworker brought his fancy WAP-phone and showed us (for a laugh) a WAP p0rn site... It was hilarious!
Nobody would seriously surf that way (tiny screen, low-res). What was the initial idea of WAP anyway?
I loved that game! Sometimes I really prefer the good old games over the new stuff that comes out...but that could just be me :-)
11 l / 100 km
100 km / 11 l
9.1 km / 1 l
36.4 km / 1 gallon
22.75 miles / gallon
Remind you: for a 10 year old car :-)
My dad drives a 10-year old 2.6l powered car and uses less than 11l/100km...which would be 4.44 gallon/100miles (I could be miscalculating). At least to be a bit comparative (and thus fair) I surfed to some US car constructors ( this and this one), but they only indicate mileage by "20 city, 28 highway"...without units...how can I compare without units?
Europeans are forced to watch for the fuel consumption (which is a big saling point here), and Americans are not. Environments just has nothing to do with it...only money...unfortunatley!
Errr, I came out of University two years ago and all of my fellow students knew to use good 'ol faithful command line: in Windoze and in *Nix.
Perhaps you should start hiring programmers from other colleges
Sidenote: if a kid asks me how to learn to program, I give him four things:
- A book about programming
- The command line
- A command line compiler
- A text editor
I learned it that way, anyone should be able to learn it that way....Instead of slashdot-karma whoring, well now have people trying to improve their Molecular Karma... ;-)
I fully agree with you. :-(
I have 3 machines at home which all are used to surf (shared line, you know...IP masquerading). So imagine what I have to do, to install a newer version of any installer-stub-based programs: yup, indeed....download it three times! *sigh*
Besides I love to have a backup-copy on a Zip or Jaz disk in case something really-really-bad happens to any of my machines: simple reinstall...
I live in Europe too, btw....and in a country that doesn't have DSL or Cable yet.
Besides, as far as I understood the Transmeta chips will be quite powerful and cheap (?). So why not spare a couple of bucks and make the secretary do her Word 2002 work on a Transmeta-based chip.
Heck, even I would be sign up for a desktop Transmeta....I just code, and I don't mind getting coffee when the project compiles ;-)
I understood it as a joke: don't worry :-) ;-)
I just found it funny to actually imagine the consequences. Yes I have a weird sense of humour
I agree, that would be cool....but did you think about the implications:
- Where do you store the (huge amount) data. I bet such a thing won't have 2Megs of RAM.
- How do you get the data on your watch? (IR?)
- How does the watch tell you number crunching is done and needs new data to crunch? (Not to forget the data it has to send to seti@home)
- How do you start/stop the jobs: if won't come with a fully functional keyboard. Would you ssh to it via the IR link?
- Will it show the fancy graphics Seti@Home makes
;-)
Not to break down a nice geek-toy, but it has little or no use at all...It's just nice to show (brag) it can be done. Besides, I don't even wear a watch anymore: I'm always in vicinity of computers and those always have a time-indicator anway.Besides, I strongly dislike IE4.
God, I must be bored! I actually write replies to AC's!
God, I must be bored! I actually write replies to AC's!
It's just the way I was forced to upgrade from from my beloved Wordperfect 5.1 (DOS) to Winblows Word with paperclip :-(
I think that the AC referred to "definately", which is written "definitely". An you're right: I had to look it up too as a native Dutch speaker. :-)
"Jazeker...er zijn er nog nederlandstaligen op slashdot"
And since when do you get horny by watching moons? ;-)
Right now I automatically delete the cookie.txt file at bootup (Dayly bootup anyay), but I'm not sure if it works well: for example I always have to log *twice* into
I've read the read-only trick too, I'm going to try that but I'd appreciate other solutions.
Thank you for telling me something I knew. It was a joke...
But then coudn't you make a beowulf-cluster of those 200 old 486'es and use them as your personal small supercomputer at home?
Oops, I think that I saw my Karma fly away....
Windows 95 OSR1 works just fine on a 486DX/2-66 with 16Meg RAM as long as you don't start using a gazillion different programs at the same time. My sister uses it to make type her homework in Word (with paperclip on! -> Well actually it's the little Einstein but who cares)
What point was I trying to make? Ah! Yes...use the machine for what it was built for an not for what is standard now. I've seen people complain that their "older" PC got unbaringly slow because they installed Window 98 and kept installing new soft all the time... *sigh* Normally those people just buy a new machine like nice little consumers ought to do.
I actually tried it on my P120 at home ;-) Well, drank some cups of coffee while waiting it to start up. Worked pretty fine after it started up tough. (Tried M16 as far as I recall) But considering the huge startup time I had to get back to Netscape 4.7x (which starts pretty fast)...There is no way that Internet Explorer is going to be installed on my machine! (Yes, at work I'm forced to use it *sigh*)
So Thomas Jefferson invented the internet and not Al Gore? My world collapses!
It's not only on TV you know. Remember Lucky Luke comics (and later cartoons). Originally he smoked cigarettes all the time (like "real" cowboys do). Someone came up with the idea that he would be a bad example for the kids so they replaced the cigarette with a grass-straw. All this stuff happenend really long ago (more than 20 years IIRC) :-)
Of course it's not Japanse Anime...