You "want" kids, but you don't want to sacrifice to have them.
No, I want my kids to have the same opportunities that I had. I evidently can't give them that. I'd condemn them to a life in poverty. How could I do that in good conscience when I have been brought up in relative wealth? Having kids is not about just fucking your brains out and then see what you can do. It's about providing a future for them. This includes all you said, plus keeping them out of poverty. I've got already enough trouble keeping my head above the water without kids.
say that out loud, and listen to what a racist you are.
Racist? Me? I'm fucking a foreigner in this country. You won't find less racist than me. What I cannot tolerate is having up to six kids in cramped space, living on wellfare (after all, we're talking about Europe), and the parents not really caring for them. This is not racism, this is realism.
You "want" kids, but you don't want to sacrifice to have them. The brown people can do it, only because of their inferiority.
Absolutely not true.... I am willing to sacrifice a lot, but I do not want to sacrifice *their* (=my potential kids) future. Besides, nowhere, I talk about "brown people". There are white muslims too, and I never complained about either brown or white muslims. The original poster claimed that Europe will be a muslim region in 10 years, and I just tried to explain the causes. I'm not going to "fight", against them. I'll just let them silently take over and hope that they will be tolerant, just as I am right now.
It's far worse in Europe, which will be basically Muslim within a generation,
Oh, and what do you suggest we do about that? You see, putting kids on the world without having the required finances and infrastructure (adequate housing) is insanity. I do want kids (and so wants my wife), but there is no way I can raise a bunch of them in the small apartment we live. Moving to something bigger is impossible since we don't have the finances. Vicious circle. Many young european couples are in that situation.
So, yes, "muslimification" will continue, but only because they don't seem to care in what conditions their kids grow up.
In material value... Most definately. Including workhours? Oh, and don't forget to include the write-off of your very expensive machiens. No way in hell, you'll get through with 500$. After that you add the "luxury tax", which is doubling the price.;-)
I could ask my family what it costs to produce such a case, including material, operational costs (writeoff, electricity), and workhours. I don't see them very often though.
There is also a media box selling for $35,000. It's nice work, but I think the guy overestimates the financial worth of his craft.
You are hugely underestimating the prices of good carpenters/cabinet makers. This isn't some low skill job that any dolt can do. I've some of these guys in the family and I couldn't even buy one of their smallest items. They make a very nice living at it too!
People do want pretty furniture, and if your want a pretty computer case to go with your mahogany desk, well, you pay for it. This is nothing for us common folks, this is for the rich and filthy rich.
Actually, you can have such a thing. You just need a lot of money. My wifes uncle (okay, actually all three of her uncles) is carpenter. You can bet they have the fanciest furniture because they can make it themselves. So, I went there to troubleshoot this guys computer and, indeed there was this ugly-beige box hidden within a compartment in his fancy desk. Now, I know you mean that the machine should be integrated completely. Well, I asked him why he hadn't done such a thing. I then showed him how modular and easy it is to build a PC (I just opened up his). He didn't know that a PC was so simple of structure, after all he never saw one open. So, yes, he said that if it's that easy one could easily create a "computer-desk".
Perhaps he has already started building one;-) Hey, I'd like one but I can't afford the kind of furniture this guy makes.
Oh, and perhaps you might like a thing I once did.... Not exactly what you want, but much cheaper to do!
You are right in a sense... Though, my price point seems to be 3K instead of 4K, but then I'm on Euros. If you and I specify a PC at this point we usually foresee a usage of a few years. I remember when we bought a Pentium Pro in 1996 (Introduced in 1995), it was extremely expensive and we had the system full-SCSI (9Gig harddisk + CD-burner). But it lasted until late 2001, running Win2000 just fine! So, yes, it cost 6250€ including the 17" Nokia montor. Let's say 5000€ for the machine itself. We did only 3 upgrades over the years: we increased the RAM, got a Voodoo2 and a ISDN card. I can't remember the costs of those, but it was reasonable in the context of the original astronomical price.
So, it worked perfectly fine for a whopping 6 years.... That's 833€/year. You've got your low-end PC there.... It's the same.... Financially....
Alas, the motherboard died or it still would be serving files.
These days I find perfectly fine P-IV 1.9GHz/512Meg RAM in the dumpster....
Well, I don't find the video, but I recall that someone wrote a program that used the integrated webcam (iSight, I think) to detect movement and use that information to switch displays/views. So, if you "slapped" (moved violently) on the right side of the machine, it would go one screen to the left... I'm going to look if I can find that video, but I can't guarantee anything.
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One nitpick, I agree pretty much with what you say, but:
A month later, they're in the hospital, because the virus in their system was diminished, then was exposed to the antibiotics but was not killed, and it grew stronger..
Antibiotics do not kill viruses, they kill bacteria. Viruses are immune to antibiotics.
There are other powerful countries in the world like china, germany, france etc that have armies that can invade and occupy most weak countries (like iraq) but they don't do it.
You really think that? Germany nor France have any military power to occupy any country like Iraq. They simply could not.... It would require too much personnel. You can usually take the rule "the army of a European country will be just enough to defend it for 10 days". That only counts for the big European countries.... I won't even start on the small ones.
I am a European, I do play the anti-US game, but frankly... anyone wanting to invade Europe gets a "walk in free" card. Perhaps the UK has a stonger military, and might keep up 20 days, but Europe now lives on diplomacy... Which frankly is a better way than brute force, but most certainly can`t compete with "we'll bomb you to death and look for solutions afterwards
You clearly aren't married. A conversation like this would end in your death and your wife being acquitted for a crime in passion. The correct answer is: "I love you"... Just that you know...
Oh, I've worked places (large installations, not just small ones) where it still was NT4/Office 97. It was, however, damn hard to get supported hardware. Newer machines inevitably ended up with WinXP. I liked Win2000, but that was probably just me.
Thanks for summing it up... That is exactly what I thought, but you said it better.
Vista brings nothing to Europe.... It will be a money drain. Of course, staying with WinXP will be difficult. Look at what happened to Win2000. They basically dropped it like a hot stone. It's only one or two years older than XP, you know.... The same will happen with Vista, and I hope that in Europe opensource will overtake. Alas, I do work in the "real world" and that's not how it will happen:-(
Oh, I finished high school over 10 years ago: in 1994.
You're of course right: I did see complex numbers in high school, but it most certainly wasn't when square roots were introduced. Can't tell you the grade because, frankly, after all those years memories get sketchy. I think that I also repressed many memories from that time... If my wife aske me about my time in high school, I often have no clue anymore.
Also, it depends on the high school level you are and what direction you went. I don't think my wife even knows what complex numbers are because she's more the "art type", and her mathematical skills are not very high. I went to the "strong calculus" classes, and I don't know if the students that didn't actually had complex numbers on the curriculum.
Finally, I taught maths to a bunch of 11th grade (I don't know if the grades are the same, as I do not live in the US. They should have been ~17yo, except many were older) people doing the economics section. Second degree equations were on the curriculum, and as you know a second degree equation has either zero, one or two solutions for real numbers. I actually once mentioned to my students that this wasn't exactly true and told them about complex numbers. Needless to say that this was way beyond their comprehension, so I didn't dig deeply into it as it wasn't on the curriculum. I remember that my maths teacher always said that all second degree equations had zero or two solutions. The case where you have one solution is just that a special case where the two solutions are the same. This is easy to see when you consider (x-1)(x-1)=0 (both roots are x=1). Later, when he introduced complex numbers, he said that he had lied and that simply all second degree equations have two solutions, just that they "live in the C set" when the discriminant is negative.
Does special general relativity disprove Newton's theory?
Yes, it does. Newtonian physics are bound to certain limits, at those limits strange things happen that Newtonian physics do not predict. Relativity explains both the experimental results of Newtonian physics and those where they go bonkers. So, relativity proves that Newton was wrong in certain conditions. This does not mean that Newtonian physics are unusable and that's why they are still taught in high school.
Compare it to something we all saw in mathematics. At a certain point in time in high school, you were introduced to square roots. The teacher would most certainly say to you that square roots were only defined for all positive reals and zero (R*). Still, for those that studied more mathematics, everybody will tell you that the square root of -1 is "i". That's because the domain changed and we work with complex numbers then. You could compare Newtonian physics to the high-school-level square root. The domain which it covers is broader and thus "more correct". After all, physics try to describe everything and "everything with bounds" isn't just "everything" anymore. Perhaps not the best analogy, but analogies are never perfect.
I have been a "computer science" teacher at a high school for the last 1.5 years. (I quit, FYI) As from a certain class - I think about age 16 - there was this fine language called "Pascal" on the curriculum. You know what? Even 16 year olds had a tough time grasping structure! Sure, you can blame it on me being a lousy teacher and I'll even accept that because I am now convinced that I'm a lousy teacher (That's why I quit! And yes, I'm bitter about it because before I started, I thought I would be a good teacher.)
Now, I'm sure those 16 year old kids weren't the brightest of the bunch, otherwhise they would have been in a generalist highschool instead of a technogolical highscool. However, one would think that enough "structure" would have been learnt in maths by then.
I myself started age 12 or 13 with Basic, because my dad showed it to me when I asked how I could do basic (heh) mathematical expressions. Something like "Calculator" on Windows did not exist, so he showed me Basic. So, once I understood more of it, I set out to write an actual calculator. First application I ever wrote, and not by copying it from textbooks. Sure, it's quite trivial to emulate a simple calculator, but that doesn't matter.
Still, I felt that Basic wasn't good enough. I felt (don't ask why) that there must have been something more sophisticated. Then my dad gave me Pascal and a book about it. I was in love with it. I know now what exactly I missed: it was the structure, but without Basic, there would have been no way in hell that I would have picked up programming by doing my debut directly into Pascal.
I did just that the other day. Wanted a printout of "3x3=9", "3x4=12", etc. (how is that called in English?) for one of the kids.
Strange, it's exactly in that situation that my dad showed me BASIC about 20 years ago... It was enough to get me into this whole "computer" thing, and I just never stopped. I hope for you that the kid will look back the same way and say: "Yeah, that's when dad showed me perl."
Oh, and it's quite sad that "normal" people don't know the CLI anymore. It was pretty much a requirement back in the day when we wanted to play games. There isn't a day, where I don't fire up a bash or cmd.exe.... (Depending on the machine I'm using, of course)
That said, yesterday, my father in law asked me if I could look at a PC that was connected to a cutting-robot (he's in the metal business) because they needed data from it and it was starting to behave flaky. It was an IBM PS/2 Model 30! Wow, I hadn't seen one of those babies in over 10 years. Diskette drive broken, of course, in such a dusty environment. Still managed to recover the required data;-) While his employees knew how to use the machine (simple text-based menus), as soon as I flipped down to DOS, their eyes glazed over. Still, it was fun to do... At least it's a nice challenge.
assuming you're in the US. Reverse that if you're in Europe
I don't want to blow your argument, but all TV's I've owned in the last 10 years here in Europe supported PAL, NTSC and SECAM. Dunno, how it is in the US, but here in Europe, we don't have much problems regarding to those standards.
Wouldn't a 1GB drive do the job for that? Damn Small Linux on it (50MB) and you've got plenty to save stuff. Of course, if you want to save the 50GB photo archive that is on the fubarred computer, it's going to be hard to save on even a 16GB thumbdrive. That's why you need an external USB harddisk or a network connection to "save" all those files.
Any slashdotter that has a wife and needs to hide anything, is simply doing something wrong. My wife has her account and her password, and I have my account and my password. She can't get into my account, and I can't get into her account. I set it up that way. It's fair and simple. I don't open her (snail) mail either, it's her mail, her privacy, her stuff. We might be married, but we are still two different entities (ehm, people...)
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You "want" kids, but you don't want to sacrifice to have them.
No, I want my kids to have the same opportunities that I had. I evidently can't give them that. I'd condemn them to a life in poverty. How could I do that in good conscience when I have been brought up in relative wealth? Having kids is not about just fucking your brains out and then see what you can do. It's about providing a future for them. This includes all you said, plus keeping them out of poverty. I've got already enough trouble keeping my head above the water without kids.
say that out loud, and listen to what a racist you are.
Racist? Me? I'm fucking a foreigner in this country. You won't find less racist than me. What I cannot tolerate is having up to six kids in cramped space, living on wellfare (after all, we're talking about Europe), and the parents not really caring for them. This is not racism, this is realism.
You "want" kids, but you don't want to sacrifice to have them. The brown people can do it, only because of their inferiority.
Absolutely not true.... I am willing to sacrifice a lot, but I do not want to sacrifice *their* (=my potential kids) future. Besides, nowhere, I talk about "brown people". There are white muslims too, and I never complained about either brown or white muslims. The original poster claimed that Europe will be a muslim region in 10 years, and I just tried to explain the causes. I'm not going to "fight", against them. I'll just let them silently take over and hope that they will be tolerant, just as I am right now.
It's far worse in Europe, which will be basically Muslim within a generation,
Oh, and what do you suggest we do about that? You see, putting kids on the world without having the required finances and infrastructure (adequate housing) is insanity. I do want kids (and so wants my wife), but there is no way I can raise a bunch of them in the small apartment we live. Moving to something bigger is impossible since we don't have the finances. Vicious circle. Many young european couples are in that situation.
So, yes, "muslimification" will continue, but only because they don't seem to care in what conditions their kids grow up.
In material value... Most definately. Including workhours? Oh, and don't forget to include the write-off of your very expensive machiens. No way in hell, you'll get through with 500$. After that you add the "luxury tax", which is doubling the price. ;-)
I could ask my family what it costs to produce such a case, including material, operational costs (writeoff, electricity), and workhours. I don't see them very often though.
There is also a media box selling for $35,000. It's nice work, but I think the guy overestimates the financial worth of his craft.
You are hugely underestimating the prices of good carpenters/cabinet makers. This isn't some low skill job that any dolt can do. I've some of these guys in the family and I couldn't even buy one of their smallest items. They make a very nice living at it too!
People do want pretty furniture, and if your want a pretty computer case to go with your mahogany desk, well, you pay for it. This is nothing for us common folks, this is for the rich and filthy rich.
Actually, you can have such a thing. You just need a lot of money. My wifes uncle (okay, actually all three of her uncles) is carpenter. You can bet they have the fanciest furniture because they can make it themselves. So, I went there to troubleshoot this guys computer and, indeed there was this ugly-beige box hidden within a compartment in his fancy desk. Now, I know you mean that the machine should be integrated completely. Well, I asked him why he hadn't done such a thing. I then showed him how modular and easy it is to build a PC (I just opened up his). He didn't know that a PC was so simple of structure, after all he never saw one open. So, yes, he said that if it's that easy one could easily create a "computer-desk".
Perhaps he has already started building one ;-) Hey, I'd like one but I can't afford the kind of furniture this guy makes.
Oh, and perhaps you might like a thing I once did.... Not exactly what you want, but much cheaper to do!
One word: Amiga... :-)
You are right in a sense... Though, my price point seems to be 3K instead of 4K, but then I'm on Euros. If you and I specify a PC at this point we usually foresee a usage of a few years. I remember when we bought a Pentium Pro in 1996 (Introduced in 1995), it was extremely expensive and we had the system full-SCSI (9Gig harddisk + CD-burner). But it lasted until late 2001, running Win2000 just fine! So, yes, it cost 6250€ including the 17" Nokia montor. Let's say 5000€ for the machine itself. We did only 3 upgrades over the years: we increased the RAM, got a Voodoo2 and a ISDN card. I can't remember the costs of those, but it was reasonable in the context of the original astronomical price.
So, it worked perfectly fine for a whopping 6 years.... That's 833€/year. You've got your low-end PC there.... It's the same.... Financially....
Alas, the motherboard died or it still would be serving files.
These days I find perfectly fine P-IV 1.9GHz/512Meg RAM in the dumpster....
And they would all be named Bob.
No, no, Bob is a planet , don't you know anything?
Here you go...
Well, I don't find the video, but I recall that someone wrote a program that used the integrated webcam (iSight, I think) to detect movement and use that information to switch displays/views. So, if you "slapped" (moved violently) on the right side of the machine, it would go one screen to the left... I'm going to look if I can find that video, but I can't guarantee anything.
One nitpick, I agree pretty much with what you say, but:
A month later, they're in the hospital, because the virus in their system was diminished, then was exposed to the antibiotics but was not killed, and it grew stronger..
Antibiotics do not kill viruses, they kill bacteria. Viruses are immune to antibiotics.
You don't have to take my word for it.
There are other powerful countries in the world like china, germany, france etc that have armies that can invade and occupy most weak countries (like iraq) but they don't do it.
You really think that? Germany nor France have any military power to occupy any country like Iraq. They simply could not.... It would require too much personnel. You can usually take the rule "the army of a European country will be just enough to defend it for 10 days". That only counts for the big European countries.... I won't even start on the small ones.
I am a European, I do play the anti-US game, but frankly... anyone wanting to invade Europe gets a "walk in free" card. Perhaps the UK has a stonger military, and might keep up 20 days, but Europe now lives on diplomacy... Which frankly is a better way than brute force, but most certainly can`t compete with "we'll bomb you to death and look for solutions afterwards
"Honey, do these jeans make my butt look fat?"
"No, your fat butt makes your butt look fat."
You clearly aren't married. A conversation like this would end in your death and your wife being acquitted for a crime in passion. The correct answer is: "I love you"... Just that you know...
Oh, I've worked places (large installations, not just small ones) where it still was NT4/Office 97. It was, however, damn hard to get supported hardware. Newer machines inevitably ended up with WinXP. I liked Win2000, but that was probably just me.
Yeah, next time he'll just have to write "put a cork in a golden goose cloaca"... Doesn't sound as nice, but at least it is technically correct.
Thanks for summing it up... That is exactly what I thought, but you said it better.
Vista brings nothing to Europe.... It will be a money drain. Of course, staying with WinXP will be difficult. Look at what happened to Win2000. They basically dropped it like a hot stone. It's only one or two years older than XP, you know.... The same will happen with Vista, and I hope that in Europe opensource will overtake. Alas, I do work in the "real world" and that's not how it will happen :-(
Damn Small Linux. Installed it on a P-I 166MHz/32Meg RAM and a 1Gig harddisk. Works just fine.
Of course, it does require a bit more knowledge to install than Ubuntu.... But only a bit...
Oh, I finished high school over 10 years ago: in 1994.
You're of course right: I did see complex numbers in high school, but it most certainly wasn't when square roots were introduced. Can't tell you the grade because, frankly, after all those years memories get sketchy. I think that I also repressed many memories from that time... If my wife aske me about my time in high school, I often have no clue anymore.
Also, it depends on the high school level you are and what direction you went. I don't think my wife even knows what complex numbers are because she's more the "art type", and her mathematical skills are not very high. I went to the "strong calculus" classes, and I don't know if the students that didn't actually had complex numbers on the curriculum.
Finally, I taught maths to a bunch of 11th grade (I don't know if the grades are the same, as I do not live in the US. They should have been ~17yo, except many were older) people doing the economics section. Second degree equations were on the curriculum, and as you know a second degree equation has either zero, one or two solutions for real numbers. I actually once mentioned to my students that this wasn't exactly true and told them about complex numbers. Needless to say that this was way beyond their comprehension, so I didn't dig deeply into it as it wasn't on the curriculum. I remember that my maths teacher always said that all second degree equations had zero or two solutions. The case where you have one solution is just that a special case where the two solutions are the same. This is easy to see when you consider (x-1)(x-1)=0 (both roots are x=1). Later, when he introduced complex numbers, he said that he had lied and that simply all second degree equations have two solutions, just that they "live in the C set" when the discriminant is negative.
Does special general relativity disprove Newton's theory?
Yes, it does. Newtonian physics are bound to certain limits, at those limits strange things happen that Newtonian physics do not predict. Relativity explains both the experimental results of Newtonian physics and those where they go bonkers. So, relativity proves that Newton was wrong in certain conditions. This does not mean that Newtonian physics are unusable and that's why they are still taught in high school.
Compare it to something we all saw in mathematics. At a certain point in time in high school, you were introduced to square roots. The teacher would most certainly say to you that square roots were only defined for all positive reals and zero (R*). Still, for those that studied more mathematics, everybody will tell you that the square root of -1 is "i". That's because the domain changed and we work with complex numbers then. You could compare Newtonian physics to the high-school-level square root. The domain which it covers is broader and thus "more correct". After all, physics try to describe everything and "everything with bounds" isn't just "everything" anymore. Perhaps not the best analogy, but analogies are never perfect.
I have been a "computer science" teacher at a high school for the last 1.5 years. (I quit, FYI) As from a certain class - I think about age 16 - there was this fine language called "Pascal" on the curriculum. You know what? Even 16 year olds had a tough time grasping structure! Sure, you can blame it on me being a lousy teacher and I'll even accept that because I am now convinced that I'm a lousy teacher (That's why I quit! And yes, I'm bitter about it because before I started, I thought I would be a good teacher.)
Now, I'm sure those 16 year old kids weren't the brightest of the bunch, otherwhise they would have been in a generalist highschool instead of a technogolical highscool. However, one would think that enough "structure" would have been learnt in maths by then.
I myself started age 12 or 13 with Basic, because my dad showed it to me when I asked how I could do basic (heh) mathematical expressions. Something like "Calculator" on Windows did not exist, so he showed me Basic. So, once I understood more of it, I set out to write an actual calculator. First application I ever wrote, and not by copying it from textbooks. Sure, it's quite trivial to emulate a simple calculator, but that doesn't matter.
Still, I felt that Basic wasn't good enough. I felt (don't ask why) that there must have been something more sophisticated. Then my dad gave me Pascal and a book about it. I was in love with it. I know now what exactly I missed: it was the structure, but without Basic, there would have been no way in hell that I would have picked up programming by doing my debut directly into Pascal.
I did just that the other day. Wanted a printout of "3x3=9", "3x4=12", etc. (how is that called in English?) for one of the kids.
Strange, it's exactly in that situation that my dad showed me BASIC about 20 years ago... It was enough to get me into this whole "computer" thing, and I just never stopped. I hope for you that the kid will look back the same way and say: "Yeah, that's when dad showed me perl."
Oh, and it's quite sad that "normal" people don't know the CLI anymore. It was pretty much a requirement back in the day when we wanted to play games. There isn't a day, where I don't fire up a bash or cmd.exe.... (Depending on the machine I'm using, of course)
That said, yesterday, my father in law asked me if I could look at a PC that was connected to a cutting-robot (he's in the metal business) because they needed data from it and it was starting to behave flaky. It was an IBM PS/2 Model 30! Wow, I hadn't seen one of those babies in over 10 years. Diskette drive broken, of course, in such a dusty environment. Still managed to recover the required data ;-) While his employees knew how to use the machine (simple text-based menus), as soon as I flipped down to DOS, their eyes glazed over. Still, it was fun to do... At least it's a nice challenge.
assuming you're in the US. Reverse that if you're in Europe
I don't want to blow your argument, but all TV's I've owned in the last 10 years here in Europe supported PAL, NTSC and SECAM. Dunno, how it is in the US, but here in Europe, we don't have much problems regarding to those standards.
Wouldn't a 1GB drive do the job for that? Damn Small Linux on it (50MB) and you've got plenty to save stuff. Of course, if you want to save the 50GB photo archive that is on the fubarred computer, it's going to be hard to save on even a 16GB thumbdrive. That's why you need an external USB harddisk or a network connection to "save" all those files.
Q: Why are women bad at parking cars?
A: Because men keep telling them that this <----------------------> is 8 inches!
Nice idea for the 'hide-it-from-your-wife' crowd
Any slashdotter that has a wife and needs to hide anything, is simply doing something wrong. My wife has her account and her password, and I have my account and my password. She can't get into my account, and I can't get into her account. I set it up that way. It's fair and simple. I don't open her (snail) mail either, it's her mail, her privacy, her stuff. We might be married, but we are still two different entities (ehm, people...)