Well for one it is about as retarded as it gets to expect to beat trolling. The trollers will troll you with reports. For another, exactly what is the ISP supposed to do? "Oh, you bothered some people on the internet, better disconnect you!" that's stupid and censorship and really fucking stupid. To the max.
I don't understand why I can't delete posts, clearly this asshole doesn't know what he's talking about. If I was allowed to moderate this board with full control we wouldn't have to put up with this nonsense.
The fighting for freedom part is that we should be able to share our connections without worrying about the legal ramifications. I have no problem with people who don't share their connection because they want to use it, but this whole "I'm paying for it, its MINE!" attitude is just... childish. Fighting for free-loading? I think not. Its very easy to control your network so you would never even notice the neighbors unless you're already saturating the pipe which you are in your case and I mentioned in my earlier post. It's more like "Oh, it makes no difference to me if you want to snag a little internet and I shouldn't be held responsible for what you do on it." The government and media want you to believe you are liable for all crimes that happen to use your connection, but this is completely wrong legally and ethicly. This would be like holding a hotel responsible for prostitution, but instead of that they hold somebody accountable for some electrical pulses that traveled through a wire they paid for that correspond to the color data of an image depicting a naked child that was already hurt by somebody else somewhere else and might possibly lead to making the person who actually recieved the data more likely to harm children in the future.
When the government is pulling that kind of a stunt and people respond back with "It's my connection, I'll never open it, this isn't fighting for freedom" it makes them a prick too focused on their bandwidth to realize what's happening to their freedoms. You're not a prick for using all of your bandwidth.
Why? Somebody prowling around your house who isn't police (even with a gun) is not grounds for you to shoot them. Try it sometime before they enter your house, I promise you will go to jail. Badges and uniforms would probably be a good idea, I can't think of any situation where they would see you and you wouldn't want them to know you were police. The goal is not to be seen at all until you're ready. The point is you can't call it unannounced when the first thing they do is, uh, announce themselves.
They do that because the speed limit is too low. Why would they be right up on your ass if they were going the speed they wanted to be at? Why would they be changing lanes like that if they're not trying to get around the flock of slow people in the wrong lane? People driving 65mph in the far left lane (assuming 65mph speed limit on the freeway) are the reason everybody is right up on each other's asses making the road more dangerous than it has to be. Stretches of my morning commute where the traffic begins driving 75 - 85mph have nobody on my ass and I'm not on anybody's ass either. Its only those spots where somebody is driving 60 - 65mph across all the lanes that lead to very dense traffic with narrow distances between cars.
Oh they may be able to get it, but proving TomTom has it does not prove the police have it any more than just saying (without any evidence) "TomTom is lying". At which point either that argument is thrown out, or I can start saying you are a liar, and we stalemate. You liar.
No, not at all. You stop accidents where accidents happen. Speeding does not always mean crashing. Most people are perfectly capable of controlling their vehicle and allowing sufficient space beyond the ridiculously low limits.
yeah, see unannounced is the problem. If they make it clear that they are the police, that's one thing.
You can complain about that, but this guy wasn't. And criminals can impersonate police, they can do it in a raid or when they knock on your door. I don't get why you are arguing with me. I know why they conduct raids and I disagree with them. That doesn't mean I have to support every backward-ass "point" somebody tries to make. If you don't call bullshit from people who support the same things as you, it degrades your whole argument. Like how racists make all republicans look bad. Neither of us wants Obama to be president, but I sure as shit should call out the guys saying "he's too black to be our president!" and not respond to people who refute the racism with "but there are also these other problems!"
This sort of problem is what necessitates legislation and government oversight.
No it doesn't, this is bullshit. Here's a real wild idea: run your shit how you want to run it. Why the fuck would facebook need government regulation to tell them how to handle removing stuff from their site? Once something gets popular everybody should be able to use it and it must be about free speech? That's a flimsy argument and stupid too. Facebook runs the risk of removing more than they and their users would want, but that should not leave them open to any kind of law suit or regulation any more than if I decide I don't want posts unrelated to starcraft on my forums. Your whole attitude just makes me angry.
Me too. When my connection is slow I look at who is on the network and boot the people that aren't me. My tech savvy friends (and more recently the unsavvy ones) all think I'm retarded. I'm pretty sure they're just paranoid.
Wow, you're a selfish prick. You don't have to share your network if you don't want to, but being allowed to share your wireless is important and there is a lot of talk about not doing it or suffering legal consequences. Some people might like the idea of sharing their connection with the neighbors if they don't saturate their pipe and the neighbors don't have their own connection. Sounds like you're so caught up on what you have that you can't even think for a second about people who aren't total dickwads.
No, hold on. People hate cops without having any single interaction where the police did something they shouldn't have. The public at large hates cops because cops catch you doing what you shouldn't do and punish you. Usually these things you shouldn't be doing are stupid, but cops don't write the laws. Do you really think cops are shot at traffic stops because cops act like thugs, or do you think its because criminals act like criminals when they are caught? You sound like a sixteen year old brat who just got pulled over and a cop found your stash.
Are you counting US citizens as holders of US debt in your "rest of the world combined" comparison? I bet you are not. Foreign entities only own a total of 4ish trillion dollars, domestic entities own 10ish trillion. http://www.usdebtclock.org
Arg, you're missing the point! This article is just informing us that starting today white is the new sexy color for electronics, and black is out again. Before we go back to black we will take a brief detour through colorful electronics being sexy, but that phase never lasts long.
If I were in charge I probably wouldn't let them trademark it
You already won, stop making me feel bad! There's something about App Store that seems worse than SQL Server, but that is probably, as you pointed out, specific to me in that I prefer the terms database, Non-relational database and RDBMS over SQL server.
Incidentally, I thought I didn't get your sig so I googled for it and found the answer in a conversation you were having about data formats (kicking people's ass along the way it seemed, from my skimming). Turns out I did get it, and you're just a lot nerdier than I am to find it funny. I think that's a compliment. Wait, it was supposed to be funny right?
Well, this is the first time I've ever been wrong. And yet, I'm still right. SQL Server is not a term I would use for any other database server software, not because its trademarked but because I call databases databases or RDBMSes. If I were in charge I probably wouldn't let them trademark it, but I don't think its as egregious as the App Store trademark.
App is used as a breev for an application as in job application. I've heard (and detested) the use of the word app to refer to software by teachers as far back as 1998. I'm pretty sure its common enough that there is no case at all.
Well the name is MS SQL Server and I don't think Microsoft has sued anybody for naming their product X SQL Server. Also, the name would be "Database" to be the same as "App Store".
We can only hope that something like that will happen. To be honest, we need to start focusing on getting the technology to make using materials from other worlds feasible. With all of the focus on dwindling supplies of rare earth metals and energy sources and economic problems and population problems we should be devoting as much time and effort in to space as we can and pay any costs to get to that point. I'm generally a low taxes kind of guy, but I would definitely support a raise in taxes that was specifically designed to boost the space program. It would have to be genuinely a case of having the budget, then the new budget with higher taxes and the only difference is the amount dedicated to NASA.
Alright alright, I apologize for my knee-jerk, anti-butthole reaction. Sometimes you focus so much on finding buttholes, that you don't notice the one in the mirror.
Well for one it is about as retarded as it gets to expect to beat trolling. The trollers will troll you with reports. For another, exactly what is the ISP supposed to do? "Oh, you bothered some people on the internet, better disconnect you!" that's stupid and censorship and really fucking stupid. To the max.
I don't understand why I can't delete posts, clearly this asshole doesn't know what he's talking about. If I was allowed to moderate this board with full control we wouldn't have to put up with this nonsense.
The fighting for freedom part is that we should be able to share our connections without worrying about the legal ramifications. I have no problem with people who don't share their connection because they want to use it, but this whole "I'm paying for it, its MINE!" attitude is just... childish. Fighting for free-loading? I think not. Its very easy to control your network so you would never even notice the neighbors unless you're already saturating the pipe which you are in your case and I mentioned in my earlier post. It's more like "Oh, it makes no difference to me if you want to snag a little internet and I shouldn't be held responsible for what you do on it." The government and media want you to believe you are liable for all crimes that happen to use your connection, but this is completely wrong legally and ethicly. This would be like holding a hotel responsible for prostitution, but instead of that they hold somebody accountable for some electrical pulses that traveled through a wire they paid for that correspond to the color data of an image depicting a naked child that was already hurt by somebody else somewhere else and might possibly lead to making the person who actually recieved the data more likely to harm children in the future.
When the government is pulling that kind of a stunt and people respond back with "It's my connection, I'll never open it, this isn't fighting for freedom" it makes them a prick too focused on their bandwidth to realize what's happening to their freedoms. You're not a prick for using all of your bandwidth.
Why? Somebody prowling around your house who isn't police (even with a gun) is not grounds for you to shoot them. Try it sometime before they enter your house, I promise you will go to jail. Badges and uniforms would probably be a good idea, I can't think of any situation where they would see you and you wouldn't want them to know you were police. The goal is not to be seen at all until you're ready. The point is you can't call it unannounced when the first thing they do is, uh, announce themselves.
They do that because the speed limit is too low. Why would they be right up on your ass if they were going the speed they wanted to be at? Why would they be changing lanes like that if they're not trying to get around the flock of slow people in the wrong lane? People driving 65mph in the far left lane (assuming 65mph speed limit on the freeway) are the reason everybody is right up on each other's asses making the road more dangerous than it has to be. Stretches of my morning commute where the traffic begins driving 75 - 85mph have nobody on my ass and I'm not on anybody's ass either. Its only those spots where somebody is driving 60 - 65mph across all the lanes that lead to very dense traffic with narrow distances between cars.
Oh they may be able to get it, but proving TomTom has it does not prove the police have it any more than just saying (without any evidence) "TomTom is lying". At which point either that argument is thrown out, or I can start saying you are a liar, and we stalemate. You liar.
ERRONEOUS! Data TomTom has != data they give to police.
No, not at all. You stop accidents where accidents happen. Speeding does not always mean crashing. Most people are perfectly capable of controlling their vehicle and allowing sufficient space beyond the ridiculously low limits.
yeah, see unannounced is the problem. If they make it clear that they are the police, that's one thing.
You can complain about that, but this guy wasn't. And criminals can impersonate police, they can do it in a raid or when they knock on your door. I don't get why you are arguing with me. I know why they conduct raids and I disagree with them. That doesn't mean I have to support every backward-ass "point" somebody tries to make. If you don't call bullshit from people who support the same things as you, it degrades your whole argument. Like how racists make all republicans look bad. Neither of us wants Obama to be president, but I sure as shit should call out the guys saying "he's too black to be our president!" and not respond to people who refute the racism with "but there are also these other problems!"
This sort of problem is what necessitates legislation and government oversight.
No it doesn't, this is bullshit. Here's a real wild idea: run your shit how you want to run it. Why the fuck would facebook need government regulation to tell them how to handle removing stuff from their site? Once something gets popular everybody should be able to use it and it must be about free speech? That's a flimsy argument and stupid too. Facebook runs the risk of removing more than they and their users would want, but that should not leave them open to any kind of law suit or regulation any more than if I decide I don't want posts unrelated to starcraft on my forums. Your whole attitude just makes me angry.
Me too. When my connection is slow I look at who is on the network and boot the people that aren't me. My tech savvy friends (and more recently the unsavvy ones) all think I'm retarded. I'm pretty sure they're just paranoid.
Wow, you're a selfish prick. You don't have to share your network if you don't want to, but being allowed to share your wireless is important and there is a lot of talk about not doing it or suffering legal consequences. Some people might like the idea of sharing their connection with the neighbors if they don't saturate their pipe and the neighbors don't have their own connection. Sounds like you're so caught up on what you have that you can't even think for a second about people who aren't total dickwads.
Of allt he raids I've seen video of, not one of them started without "POLICE! POLICE! POLICE!" so you have absolutely no grounds for complaint.
No, hold on. People hate cops without having any single interaction where the police did something they shouldn't have. The public at large hates cops because cops catch you doing what you shouldn't do and punish you. Usually these things you shouldn't be doing are stupid, but cops don't write the laws. Do you really think cops are shot at traffic stops because cops act like thugs, or do you think its because criminals act like criminals when they are caught? You sound like a sixteen year old brat who just got pulled over and a cop found your stash.
Ahh, the one funny thing Andy Dick has ever said.
Are you counting US citizens as holders of US debt in your "rest of the world combined" comparison? I bet you are not. Foreign entities only own a total of 4ish trillion dollars, domestic entities own 10ish trillion. http://www.usdebtclock.org
Arg, you're missing the point! This article is just informing us that starting today white is the new sexy color for electronics, and black is out again. Before we go back to black we will take a brief detour through colorful electronics being sexy, but that phase never lasts long.
If I were in charge I probably wouldn't let them trademark it
You already won, stop making me feel bad! There's something about App Store that seems worse than SQL Server, but that is probably, as you pointed out, specific to me in that I prefer the terms database, Non-relational database and RDBMS over SQL server.
Incidentally, I thought I didn't get your sig so I googled for it and found the answer in a conversation you were having about data formats (kicking people's ass along the way it seemed, from my skimming). Turns out I did get it, and you're just a lot nerdier than I am to find it funny. I think that's a compliment. Wait, it was supposed to be funny right?
The abbreviated form of the word abbreviation.
Well, this is the first time I've ever been wrong. And yet, I'm still right. SQL Server is not a term I would use for any other database server software, not because its trademarked but because I call databases databases or RDBMSes. If I were in charge I probably wouldn't let them trademark it, but I don't think its as egregious as the App Store trademark.
App is used as a breev for an application as in job application. I've heard (and detested) the use of the word app to refer to software by teachers as far back as 1998. I'm pretty sure its common enough that there is no case at all.
Hey, why do you hide behind your pseudonym, feeb? I use my real name. You're completely pathetic.
Well the name is MS SQL Server and I don't think Microsoft has sued anybody for naming their product X SQL Server. Also, the name would be "Database" to be the same as "App Store".
We can only hope that something like that will happen. To be honest, we need to start focusing on getting the technology to make using materials from other worlds feasible. With all of the focus on dwindling supplies of rare earth metals and energy sources and economic problems and population problems we should be devoting as much time and effort in to space as we can and pay any costs to get to that point. I'm generally a low taxes kind of guy, but I would definitely support a raise in taxes that was specifically designed to boost the space program. It would have to be genuinely a case of having the budget, then the new budget with higher taxes and the only difference is the amount dedicated to NASA.
Alright alright, I apologize for my knee-jerk, anti-butthole reaction. Sometimes you focus so much on finding buttholes, that you don't notice the one in the mirror.