You can tell this site is chinese because they don't form plurals properly. E.g. they have a list of many "free movie" and a list of all of the "genre". Why do Chinese people have so much trouble making plurals? Just add an 's' and be done with it!
For a funny take on this topic, visit http://www.engrish.com/. It's hilarious. This particular site is about funny English-Japanese translations, but the effect is the same.
I think you're wrong - it's not about replacing the onboard network card in a Mac (which I agree would rarely fail) - instead, it's about adding a SECOND network card.
Apple has given us a powerful, unix-based OS to use. What good is it if I can't add a second network card to use it as a router, firewall, DHCP server, etc.?
If they have *NIX drivers, they can be made to run on a mac. It may take a bit of mucking with the code if there is x86 specific code, but otherwise it will work, and besides, mucking with code is half the fun of linux.
Key word "can" not "have been". I simply haven't seen this happen. Keep in mind these are Mac people - they aren't going to be "mucking with the code" and certainly wouldn't see that as fun.
If it's so simple to make a variety of PCI network cards work on Mac, how come nobody has done it after all these years?
Uh, yeah, that's a nice big fancy link. It takes me directly to... the SMC homepage.
Looking in their network card section, it appears that they have Mac drivers for ONE of their cards, but it's only for OS 8/9. NOTHING that says MacOS X anywhere! (Because there aren't any!)
I just configured a Dell system, Dell Dimension 4400 Series Dimension® 4400 Series with Pentium® 4 Processor at 1.8 GHz (twice the speed of the G4). It speced out to $1550, and to be honest, I'm sure you could do better with promotions, coupons, whatever.
And yes, it's configured with a DVD burner for that price.
So I'll have to beg your forgiveness, it's only $800 cheaper. For that price, you could add a nice 15" LCD, printer, scanner, zip drive, pile of blank cds, SCSI, gigabit ethernet, portable MP3 player, and a Sound Blaster live that's far nicer than anything you can get from Apple, and put $100 in your pocket.
Sorry but you're wrong. They simply don't work, there aren't any drivers, and MacOS does not have the large family of generic open source drivers that Linux does.
PCI network cards do NOT work in Macs, unless the manufacturer writes drivers specifically for that OS.
From what I'v seen of cpu instensive tasks the Dual 1ghz G4 can mop the floor with a dual athlon.
One would hope, since it costs twice as much!
As I've said many times, Macs are overpriced. Even if you accept the fact that a G4 1ghz is equivalent to a P4 2ghz (debateable), the mac hardware still costs double to get that equivalent performance!
Mac components are typically of higher quality than "commodity" components - this is part of the (somewhat) higher initial investment cost; this is also one of the reasons why Mac hardware "obsoletes" more slowly than PC hardware.
Are you suggesting that the "PC-standard" memory, hard drives, CD, DVD, and CDRW drives components in Macs are somehow "better" than their PC cousins? I can assure you that Apple uses similar, if not identical RAM to that used by Dell, Compaq, etc.
Do you think Apple is ordering "custom" IDE hard drives from Maxtor? No.
Wrong. Commodity parts such as memory and hard drives are exactly the same on the Mac. I have bought memory and hard drives at Sam's club, and they work just fine in my Mac.
You neglect to mention the MYRIAD of stuff that DOESN'T work with Macs. Only ATI really makes any Mac video cards, and I can't name a single network card that comes with Mac drivers. Better hope your onboard NIC never goes bad.
Apple people have made a big deal lately about how much of the hardware is "PC-standard", but really, there are only 3 parts that are the same: memory, hard drives, and optical drives.
On the list of non-standard interchangeable stuff is: the case and power supply, motherboard, processor, video, audio, and network cards, and keyboards.
Amen. DVDs are by FAR the best entertainment value, bar none. Most can be had for $15 or less if you shop around, they last 'forever', can be enjoyed repeatedly, and frequently have high quality extras that I also enjoy.
Compare the cost of a DVD to a CD which are similarly priced. You get so much more.
It costs me $18.00 to take my girlfriend out to the movies in Los Angeles - I can buy a DVD for that price that's mine for eternity.
I'm even starting to see DVDs at Target for $6.99 now, and I expect that trend will continue for non-new releases.
For these people, RedHat costs 3x more to keep updated than windows.
Don't forget that RedHat Network will update all the packages on your system, whereas Windows Update only handles the OS and some MS programs.
On active projects, there can be new releases that affect you on a daily or weekly basis, and it sucks to try to stay up with them. RHN eliminates this, it emails me occassionally when there are security updates, you run it, and a bit later you have a system where are the programs are current with no interaction on my part. That's nice.
Beg pardon, but RedHat (along with Mandrake) plays an EXTREMELY important role. They are one of the only companies that has bothered to try to make Linux easier for newbies.
For example, the wonderful GUI installer they recently came out with. Those are the kinds of tools that you can point to for new people to use that make a real difference in their Linux experience. That makes them a lot better than Microsoft - and worthy of praise, in my opinion, since I use their OS on two computers - for free.
I just burned half an hour reading the GAIM docs. There is a page about the various protocols it supports, and the section about Yahoo is blank.
I installed.5 via RPM, and the only two protocols to choose from are OScar and TOC, both of which are only for compatibility with AIM. Nothing about Yahoo.
I read the plugins page, and I don't see anything about Yahoo. What EXACTLY do you need to make it work with Yahoo?
This is the second combo phone/PDA device I've seen that appears to require the use of a headset for phone calls. (The other device is a Motorola that they sell on Voicestream, don't know the model number.
What makes them think I don't want to hold the device to my ear? I don't want to have to hunt for a headset everytime the phone rings.
I wonder how many people have machines that just run AOL?
True story. I was recently asked by a coworker to assist their friend with their computer over the telephone. The friend was having some trouble opening files they'd downloaded from AOL.
After speaking to him for a few minutes (during which time I asked him several times to open "My Computer" - he was never able to find it) I determined that he NEVER used the file browser on his computer. Rather than using Windows Explorer, he simply located the file he wanted to work on in AOL's 'download manager' and doubleclicked it. If it wasn't in that list of files, it didn't exist to him.
If AOL really wanted to compete with Microsoft, wouldn't they have invested more resources to develop the Netscape web browser?
Frankly they didn't seem that interested... why now? Internally, they didn't even seem to believe that they could get people to switch browsers, let alone operating systems.
Dammit! Well I've been waiting months for the Treo already, a few more weeks won't hurt.
In all seriousness, these delays have the potential to really hurt them. The Nokia Communicator, the Danger Hiptop, and (supposedly) voice-enabled Blackberry's are all breathing down their neck. Who will be first to the party?
By proprietary, I mean shit that is different from all other shit, and doesn't work with other people's shit. Is that simple enough for you? It's the only fucking port like that in the known universe, so I think that qualifies as "proprietary".
The original question was - "what on Macs is proprietary".
The answer is, the dongle-VGA out connector.
Whether or not it was good to choose something proprietary for this particular application is irrelevant. (And it probably was a good choice, since it allows you a thinner notebook, as mentioned)
I've already determined that the iMac is not for me, that doesn't make it a bad computer, it's just not for me.
So that makes the G4 the computer for me, except that what I need only costs $700 in Wintel, whereas it costs $1800 in Mac-land.
That's not a flame, it's more of a frustration. As both a user and stockholder, it bugs me that there are markets that I feel Apple could sell to, profitably, but they won't.
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Bob, tell him what he's won! Yet another example of Apple proprietary lock-in. You can't even use those monitors with older Macs, let alone PCs.
For a funny take on this topic, visit http://www.engrish.com/. It's hilarious. This particular site is about funny English-Japanese translations, but the effect is the same.
Apple has given us a powerful, unix-based OS to use. What good is it if I can't add a second network card to use it as a router, firewall, DHCP server, etc.?
Key word "can" not "have been". I simply haven't seen this happen. Keep in mind these are Mac people - they aren't going to be "mucking with the code" and certainly wouldn't see that as fun.
If it's so simple to make a variety of PCI network cards work on Mac, how come nobody has done it after all these years?
Looking in their network card section, it appears that they have Mac drivers for ONE of their cards, but it's only for OS 8/9. NOTHING that says MacOS X anywhere! (Because there aren't any!)
And yes, it's configured with a DVD burner for that price.
So I'll have to beg your forgiveness, it's only $800 cheaper. For that price, you could add a nice 15" LCD, printer, scanner, zip drive, pile of blank cds, SCSI, gigabit ethernet, portable MP3 player, and a Sound Blaster live that's far nicer than anything you can get from Apple, and put $100 in your pocket.
Okay, so put your money where your mouth is - post a link to ANY website selling a network card with MacOS drivers.
PCI network cards do NOT work in Macs, unless the manufacturer writes drivers specifically for that OS.
One would hope, since it costs twice as much!
As I've said many times, Macs are overpriced. Even if you accept the fact that a G4 1ghz is equivalent to a P4 2ghz (debateable), the mac hardware still costs double to get that equivalent performance!
Are you suggesting that the "PC-standard" memory, hard drives, CD, DVD, and CDRW drives components in Macs are somehow "better" than their PC cousins? I can assure you that Apple uses similar, if not identical RAM to that used by Dell, Compaq, etc.
Do you think Apple is ordering "custom" IDE hard drives from Maxtor? No.
You neglect to mention the MYRIAD of stuff that DOESN'T work with Macs. Only ATI really makes any Mac video cards, and I can't name a single network card that comes with Mac drivers. Better hope your onboard NIC never goes bad.
Apple people have made a big deal lately about how much of the hardware is "PC-standard", but really, there are only 3 parts that are the same: memory, hard drives, and optical drives.
On the list of non-standard interchangeable stuff is: the case and power supply, motherboard, processor, video, audio, and network cards, and keyboards.
Compare the cost of a DVD to a CD which are similarly priced. You get so much more.
It costs me $18.00 to take my girlfriend out to the movies in Los Angeles - I can buy a DVD for that price that's mine for eternity.
I'm even starting to see DVDs at Target for $6.99 now, and I expect that trend will continue for non-new releases.
P.S. Please don't respond "but you can plug things in via FireWire!". YOU don't get to decide if I need PCI, I do.
Don't forget that RedHat Network will update all the packages on your system, whereas Windows Update only handles the OS and some MS programs.
On active projects, there can be new releases that affect you on a daily or weekly basis, and it sucks to try to stay up with them. RHN eliminates this, it emails me occassionally when there are security updates, you run it, and a bit later you have a system where are the programs are current with no interaction on my part. That's nice.
For example, the wonderful GUI installer they recently came out with. Those are the kinds of tools that you can point to for new people to use that make a real difference in their Linux experience. That makes them a lot better than Microsoft - and worthy of praise, in my opinion, since I use their OS on two computers - for free.
I installed .5 via RPM, and the only two protocols to choose from are OScar and TOC, both of which are only for compatibility with AIM. Nothing about Yahoo.
I read the plugins page, and I don't see anything about Yahoo. What EXACTLY do you need to make it work with Yahoo?
What makes them think I don't want to hold the device to my ear? I don't want to have to hunt for a headset everytime the phone rings.
True story. I was recently asked by a coworker to assist their friend with their computer over the telephone. The friend was having some trouble opening files they'd downloaded from AOL.
After speaking to him for a few minutes (during which time I asked him several times to open "My Computer" - he was never able to find it) I determined that he NEVER used the file browser on his computer. Rather than using Windows Explorer, he simply located the file he wanted to work on in AOL's 'download manager' and doubleclicked it. If it wasn't in that list of files, it didn't exist to him.
For people like that, AOL IS the computer.
Yahoo Messenger has an official Linux client, works great. It's bit light on features compared to the Windows version, but the functionality is there.
In fact, all it really needs is a feature to flash the icon in the taskbar when a message comes in. Anyone know how to make it do that?
I've tried some of the other Yahoo! clients people have made. Frankly none of them compares to the "official" client.
Frankly they didn't seem that interested... why now? Internally, they didn't even seem to believe that they could get people to switch browsers, let alone operating systems.
Actually, I think it has more to do with the fact that everyone who needed a PDA over the last few years still owns a perfectly functional Palm III.
Dammit! Well I've been waiting months for the Treo already, a few more weeks won't hurt.
In all seriousness, these delays have the potential to really hurt them. The Nokia Communicator, the Danger Hiptop, and (supposedly) voice-enabled Blackberry's are all breathing down their neck. Who will be first to the party?
By proprietary, I mean shit that is different from all other shit, and doesn't work with other people's shit. Is that simple enough for you? It's the only fucking port like that in the known universe, so I think that qualifies as "proprietary".
The answer is, the dongle-VGA out connector.
Whether or not it was good to choose something proprietary for this particular application is irrelevant. (And it probably was a good choice, since it allows you a thinner notebook, as mentioned)
I've already determined that the iMac is not for me, that doesn't make it a bad computer, it's just not for me.
So that makes the G4 the computer for me, except that what I need only costs $700 in Wintel, whereas it costs $1800 in Mac-land.
That's not a flame, it's more of a frustration. As both a user and stockholder, it bugs me that there are markets that I feel Apple could sell to, profitably, but they won't.