You could think of the foot as just one of a myriad collection of bodyparts an IED would turn a soldier into, if you want to put it in a serious juxtaposition.
Well, they used to call it "Global warming" but then we found out that the earth is actually getting record cold temperatures. So naturally the solution (socialism, Kyoto) in search of a problem had to adjust the computer game model and say "we predicted that, too."
I heard that Kia have finally figured out that the real money in this country is in building trucks. American car manufacturers have ceded the car market to the Asians knowing that the markup and profit on a Ram or a S-10 is much higher than the cars the EPA force em to make.
Kia looked at the success of the Toyota Tacoma and have decided to come up with their own version, called the Kia Spanaway.
A more accurate one would be this - the rich guy shows up and pays the restaurant owner about 50% of what he'd pay as his share of the meal.
Then when the diners showed up, the restauranteur would take out a credit card in the names of the children of the poor, bill the meal to that and take the collected money and give it to the richest guy.
Your analogy also falls over when you assume that the people at the meal eat the same amount. The poorest people there get bread and water and are not allowed to talk during the meal. The richest get their lobster and steak tartare and monopolize the conversation.
Butanol gives you double the BTU per gallon. Start there. As for feedstock, we gots ourselves a lot of garbage, and who says we need to use "arable" land?
You're implying we're going to pay immigration fees and relo? And relocate you?
No, you don't understand. By "move the managers" we mean we simply show up with empty cardboard boxes, give you 15 minutes to get your stuff out of there, hand you your final cheque on the way out the door and make sure we get our cellphone and company credit card back.
Notice to you: none.
And then, Rajinder will take over your job as of 9 am Bangalore time.
Bush has been spending freely like there's no tomorrow. No war, corporate perk or handout to the rich that can't be put on the credit card for others to pay later. While cutting taxes for the top 1%.
Actually, Kirk will make reservations for all accomodations on planet excursions, trysts with alien princesses etc. through priceline.com by naming his own price.
To boldly go where no man has ever gone before.... drive, amigo, drive.....
As for measuring global temperature over time, there we're not sure.
There's some controversy over land-based measurements versus satellite ones, heat islands. Temperature reconstructions where they used ONE tree in ONE forest to extrapolate global planet temperature.
What does "global mean temperature" mean anyway?
Interesting how the ocean temperature measurements we run off are from urban areas or areas not far from where people live. I think we take seven measurements worldwide.
We can prove CO2 under the right conditions cause warming. What we also show is that it's not linear, you get diminishing returns after a while. We'd be dead of CO2 asphyxiation long before we become a fireball.
Pumping CO2 into a lab and observing nature are two different things. Dig? When there's more CO2 plants grow more fully and consume more, for example. Might turn out that the less than one tenth of a percent of atmospheric CO2 that we're responsible for has NEGLIGIBLE effects on what's goin gon.
We've measured SOME inputs and outputs.
The dirty secret about Magic Mike and his video game are that he hasn't bothered to model ALL the inputs and outputs. And, that if you apply his non-peer-reviewed "statistical methods" to red noise you get the same hockey stick graph.
Scratch a little harder and you'll see it's a little camarilla of people who "peer-reviewed" each other, but who weren't thorough about it
Asking me to believe that we're turning the earth into a fireball is like saying "The Bible says Jesus is Lord. The Bible says that there's a place called Golgotha. We have evidence that Golgotha exists. Therefore the Bible is TRUE and Jesus is Lord."
Noone's arguing the earth is warming. We're questioning why. Mars is warming too, and there's no George Bush or Hummers there, huh?
But why "ignore the cooling between...." it would seem to me that carbon dioxide emissions started going up quite a bit between 40-80 so wouldn't the earth have been getting hotter during this period?
The point I was trying to make is this - that we really have no clue what the hell is going on, pretty computer doom and gloom video game to the contrary.
RE: Here's what I don't get about the global warming naysayers: Which part of the science behind it are you disputing?
The greenies are the one that need to PROVE their assertions.
They're the ones suggesting we need to abandon Western Civilisation because of this bugbear. They've reclassified carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Next thing you know, when they realise water vapor is the bigger problem, will "water" be a pollutant?
RE: Are you denying the research that's proven that CO2 levels have risen rapidly since the 1940s?
Interesting you should mention that. The biggest jump in recorded temperature occurred before 1940. If your theory was correct, then you'd have seen a bigger jump afterwards.
RE: Are you denying the causal correlation between CO2 levels and global temperature?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc assertions that one CAUSE the other? Yes. Correlation != causation.
RE: Or are you (like many naysayers) flatly denying that billions of humans are capable of affecting the planet's ecosystem because the planet is "so big"?
No, we can certainly affect the ecosystem on a local scale. We can lay down thick black blacktop that absorbs light, gets really hot, and melts permafrost. We can destroy wetlands and wonder why New Orleans can't take a Category 3 anymore.
Come on, the GW doomsayers have nothing more than a computer model (which is flawed), bad statistics, and bad science. And if you look at the bovine excrement leaking from their mouths - if there's more snow, it's global warming. Less snow, global warming. Temperatures go up global warming, temperatures go down global warming. They're now saying polar bear penises are shrinking, and it's all because of a one degree temperature difference in the weather.
Am I the only sane person here?
When you show me EMPIRICAL evidence, when Al Gore doesn't try and bend stuff around in his documentaries (Kilimanjaro is losing its snow because deforestation has removed moisture from the air around it, and that's been happening for DECADES, it was noted in the 1800s, not GLOBAL WARMING), and when there's tangible evidence, we'll act. Sensibly. But we aren't paying you and China to play Pascal's Wager with the ecosphere at the cost of reliable transport and modern conveniences which is why we live longer and healthier than we did when we lived in yurts and ate yak butter.
Actually, the guy has a very valid point. Most of the people who go into Environmental Science are hippy Sierra Club activist types who want to "save the planet". They haven't got the lack of objectivity to look at life and say "does it need saving?"
"Global warming is caused by man, and increases in temperature on the planet are manmade. I can prove the nighttime temperature of the Earth has gone up 0.01 C in the past decade. Therefore I prove Global Warming is caused by man." Spot the logical fallacy.
The greenies have done a very good job of repeating that it's a slam dunk we're causing GW enough so that you're a kook, crank, or petroleum lobbyist if you say otherwise.
If you can PREVENT AIDS it doesn't mean you can cure herpes.
Now, the day when you can get a jab that guarantees you get neither AIDS nor herpes, then you really will get screwing in the streets. And Africa's population will go up by a factor of ten.
Yeah, but with ethanol, you have to change out your fuelling system and change out your engine. With BUTANOL you don't have to change anything but what you put in the pump, and by extension your car.
Ethanol was banned as an additive under G. Bush (Poppy) because it evaporates very easily, becoming a pollutant. It also really messes up cars.
HA! Trimspa and Hydroxycut have NOTHING on the eventual extension to this technology, namely the tapewormbot, which slithers through your gut burning off calories from the Luther Vandross burger (a hamburger patty, cheese and bacon between two Krispy Kreme donuts). We can all look like Kate Moss, but without the drugs!
As Rush himself once said, celebrities in the liberal media, and poor people are moral failures and therefore should go to jail.
He has an illness, not a moral failing. His drug problems were a serious illness, for which he is in rehab, accepting treatment. The drug problems of other people are moral failings, which require jail time to purge.
Butanol can burn in a gasoline engine without modification. Thanks to new advances in technology it can be created readily from biomass. I am not associated with this company but check out www.butanol.org
Seems to me that rather than replacing infrastructure and having everyone buy a new car we simply go to thermal depolymerization of garbage and greening the planet for biofuel on a massive scale.
So why have everyone junk his car for this process? Of course, you happen to be an oilman (the hydrogen will come from oil, the hydrogen board is already lined up with BIG OIL folks) and/or have futures in palladium. Yet more revenues for the Skull and Bones set, business as usual.
There is also the well-established tradition that "snitches" and "rats" get "overlooked" by law enforcement in terms of what they do for a living.
Just as how in Starsky and Hutch, they didn't bust the pimp cause he always had the dope on bigger fish.
Being allowed to keep your own T1 connection and democracy pr0n might be something that would tempt a citizen of that country to rat on its local 2600 meetup.
It can kill people. It also can cause reproductive problems. It's not just "ya get a few itchy bumps but that's it."
From the CDC:
5. Can a healthy person with varicella die from the disease?
Yes, many of the deaths and complications from chickenpox occur in previously healthy children and adults. From 1990 to 1994, before there was a vaccine available, there were about 50 chickenpox deaths in children and 50 chickenpox deaths in adults every year; most of these persons were healthy or did not have a medical illness (such as cancer) that placed them at higher risk of getting severe chickenpox. Since 1999, states have been encouraged to report chickenpox deaths to CDC. In 1999 and 2000, CDC received reports that showed that deaths from chickenpox continue to occur in healthy, unvaccinated children and adults. Most of the healthy adults who died from chickenpox contracted the disease from their unvaccinated children.
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You could think of the foot as just one of a myriad collection of bodyparts an IED would turn a soldier into, if you want to put it in a serious juxtaposition.
For the humour challenged - Spanaway is a poor city to the south of Tacoma.
A similar joke would be someone copying Windows Chicago and calling it OS/2 Warp Gary,Indiana.
Get it?
Well, they used to call it "Global warming" but then we found out that the earth is actually getting record cold temperatures. So naturally the solution (socialism, Kyoto) in search of a problem had to adjust the computer game model and say "we predicted that, too."
I heard that Kia have finally figured out that the real money in this country is in building trucks. American car manufacturers have ceded the car market to the Asians knowing that the markup and profit on a Ram or a S-10 is much higher than the cars the EPA force em to make.
Kia looked at the success of the Toyota Tacoma and have decided to come up with their own version, called the Kia Spanaway.
Your analogy falls over completely.
A more accurate one would be this - the rich guy shows up and pays the restaurant owner about 50% of what he'd pay as his share of the meal.
Then when the diners showed up, the restauranteur would take out a credit card in the names of the children of the poor, bill the meal to that and take the collected money and give it to the richest guy.
Your analogy also falls over when you assume that the people at the meal eat the same amount. The poorest people there get bread and water and are not allowed to talk during the meal. The richest get their lobster and steak tartare and monopolize the conversation.
Butanol gives you double the BTU per gallon. Start there. As for feedstock, we gots ourselves a lot of garbage, and who says we need to use "arable" land?
Why ethanol?
Make butanol out of the same stock (butanol.org) and you can run it in a pre-existing vehicle.
You're implying we're going to pay immigration fees and relo? And relocate you?
No, you don't understand. By "move the managers" we mean we simply show up with empty cardboard boxes, give you 15 minutes to get your stuff out of there, hand you your final cheque on the way out the door and make sure we get our cellphone and company credit card back.
Notice to you: none.
And then, Rajinder will take over your job as of 9 am Bangalore time.
There was no "less" on the end of his statement.
Bush has been spending freely like there's no tomorrow. No war, corporate perk or handout to the rich that can't be put on the credit card for others to pay later. While cutting taxes for the top 1%.
Actually, Kirk will make reservations for all accomodations on planet excursions, trysts with alien princesses etc. through priceline.com by naming his own price.
To boldly go where no man has ever gone before.... drive, amigo, drive.....
Of course you can measure CO2 in the atmosphere.
As for measuring global temperature over time, there we're not sure.
There's some controversy over land-based measurements versus satellite ones, heat islands. Temperature reconstructions where they used ONE tree in ONE forest to extrapolate global planet temperature.
What does "global mean temperature" mean anyway?
Interesting how the ocean temperature measurements we run off are from urban areas or areas not far from where people live. I think we take seven measurements worldwide.
We can prove CO2 under the right conditions cause warming. What we also show is that it's not linear, you get diminishing returns after a while. We'd be dead of CO2 asphyxiation long before we become a fireball.
Pumping CO2 into a lab and observing nature are two different things. Dig? When there's more CO2 plants grow more fully and consume more, for example. Might turn out that the less than one tenth of a percent of atmospheric CO2 that we're responsible for has NEGLIGIBLE effects on what's goin gon.
We've measured SOME inputs and outputs.
The dirty secret about Magic Mike and his video game are that he hasn't bothered to model ALL the inputs and outputs. And, that if you apply his non-peer-reviewed "statistical methods" to red noise you get the same hockey stick graph.
Scratch a little harder and you'll see it's a little camarilla of people who "peer-reviewed" each other, but who weren't thorough about it
Asking me to believe that we're turning the earth into a fireball is like saying "The Bible says Jesus is Lord. The Bible says that there's a place called Golgotha. We have evidence that Golgotha exists. Therefore the Bible is TRUE and Jesus is Lord."
Noone's arguing the earth is warming. We're questioning why. Mars is warming too, and there's no George Bush or Hummers there, huh?
Thank you for correcting this.
But why "ignore the cooling between...." it would seem to me that carbon dioxide emissions started going up quite a bit between 40-80 so wouldn't the earth have been getting hotter during this period?
The point I was trying to make is this - that we really have no clue what the hell is going on, pretty computer doom and gloom video game to the contrary.
RE: Here's what I don't get about the global warming naysayers: Which part of the science behind it are you disputing?
The greenies are the one that need to PROVE their assertions.
They're the ones suggesting we need to abandon Western Civilisation because of this bugbear. They've reclassified carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Next thing you know, when they realise water vapor is the bigger problem, will "water" be a pollutant?
RE: Are you denying the research that's proven that CO2 levels have risen rapidly since the 1940s?
Interesting you should mention that. The biggest jump in recorded temperature occurred before 1940. If your theory was correct, then you'd have seen a bigger jump afterwards.
RE: Are you denying the causal correlation between CO2 levels and global temperature?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc assertions that one CAUSE the other? Yes. Correlation != causation.
RE: Or are you (like many naysayers) flatly denying that billions of humans are capable of affecting the planet's ecosystem because the planet is "so big"?
No, we can certainly affect the ecosystem on a local scale. We can lay down thick black blacktop that absorbs light, gets really hot, and melts permafrost. We can destroy wetlands and wonder why New Orleans can't take a Category 3 anymore.
Come on, the GW doomsayers have nothing more than a computer model (which is flawed), bad statistics, and bad science. And if you look at the bovine excrement leaking from their mouths - if there's more snow, it's global warming. Less snow, global warming. Temperatures go up global warming, temperatures go down global warming. They're now saying polar bear penises are shrinking, and it's all because of a one degree temperature difference in the weather.
Am I the only sane person here?
When you show me EMPIRICAL evidence, when Al Gore doesn't try and bend stuff around in his documentaries (Kilimanjaro is losing its snow because deforestation has removed moisture from the air around it, and that's been happening for DECADES, it was noted in the 1800s, not GLOBAL WARMING), and when there's tangible evidence, we'll act. Sensibly. But we aren't paying you and China to play Pascal's Wager with the ecosphere at the cost of reliable transport and modern conveniences which is why we live longer and healthier than we did when we lived in yurts and ate yak butter.
Ya digg?
Actually, the guy has a very valid point. Most of the people who go into Environmental Science are hippy Sierra Club activist types who want to "save the planet". They haven't got the lack of objectivity to look at life and say "does it need saving?"
"Global warming is caused by man, and increases in temperature on the planet are manmade. I can prove the nighttime temperature of the Earth has gone up 0.01 C in the past decade. Therefore I prove Global Warming is caused by man." Spot the logical fallacy.
The greenies have done a very good job of repeating that it's a slam dunk we're causing GW enough so that you're a kook, crank, or petroleum lobbyist if you say otherwise.
Is it good at fighting something that doesn't exist, or
Are they advertising it won't run OS X?
A vaccine is not a cure. It's a prophylactic.
If you can PREVENT AIDS it doesn't mean you can cure herpes.
Now, the day when you can get a jab that guarantees you get neither AIDS nor herpes, then you really will get screwing in the streets. And Africa's population will go up by a factor of ten.
Yeah, but with ethanol, you have to change out your fuelling system and change out your engine. With BUTANOL you don't have to change anything but what you put in the pump, and by extension your car.
Ethanol was banned as an additive under G. Bush (Poppy) because it evaporates very easily, becoming a pollutant. It also really messes up cars.
HA! Trimspa and Hydroxycut have NOTHING on the eventual extension to this technology, namely the tapewormbot, which slithers through your gut burning off calories from the Luther Vandross burger (a hamburger patty, cheese and bacon between two Krispy Kreme donuts). We can all look like Kate Moss, but without the drugs!
You CLEARLY misunderstand the situation.
As Rush himself once said, celebrities in the liberal media, and poor people are moral failures and therefore should go to jail.
He has an illness, not a moral failing. His drug problems were a serious illness, for which he is in rehab, accepting treatment. The drug problems of other people are moral failings, which require jail time to purge.
Butanol can burn in a gasoline engine without modification. Thanks to new advances in technology it can be created readily from biomass. I am not associated with this company but check out www.butanol.org
Seems to me that rather than replacing infrastructure and having everyone buy a new car we simply go to thermal depolymerization of garbage and greening the planet for biofuel on a massive scale.
So why have everyone junk his car for this process? Of course, you happen to be an oilman (the hydrogen will come from oil, the hydrogen board is already lined up with BIG OIL folks) and/or have futures in palladium. Yet more revenues for the Skull and Bones set, business as usual.
Butanol, actually. www.butanol.org
No need to buy a new engine, new car, or new anything. Simply grow a 100% compatible with gasoline fuel, right now.
Well, isn't that how people think in the online world?
"Well, I can call the guy whatever I want and insult his wife and mother cause it's the Intarweb."
"Well, I'm not really stealing when I pirate all these MP3s and movies. Information wants to be free."
"Compromising a military system shouldn't be something I get sent to Gitmo for, cause it was too easy to get in."
Time for intarweb nerds to grow up and realise that there really are consequences for actions.
Go to your local Mexican Food store. Mexico still makes its stuff with sugar.
There is also the well-established tradition that "snitches" and "rats" get "overlooked" by law enforcement in terms of what they do for a living.
Just as how in Starsky and Hutch, they didn't bust the pimp cause he always had the dope on bigger fish.
Being allowed to keep your own T1 connection and democracy pr0n might be something that would tempt a citizen of that country to rat on its local 2600 meetup.
It can kill people. It also can cause reproductive problems. It's not just "ya get a few itchy bumps but that's it."
From the CDC:
5. Can a healthy person with varicella die from the disease?
Yes, many of the deaths and complications from chickenpox occur in previously healthy children and adults. From 1990 to 1994, before there was a vaccine available, there were about 50 chickenpox deaths in children and 50 chickenpox deaths in adults every year; most of these persons were healthy or did not have a medical illness (such as cancer) that placed them at higher risk of getting severe chickenpox. Since 1999, states have been encouraged to report chickenpox deaths to CDC. In 1999 and 2000, CDC received reports that showed that deaths from chickenpox continue to occur in healthy, unvaccinated children and adults. Most of the healthy adults who died from chickenpox contracted the disease from their unvaccinated children.