I posted this above but here's what I see (maybe I'm missing something so help me out).
So that assumption of danger here is what? Someone walks down the street bumping into random strangers repeatedly hoping that:
1) The bump into the side where the strangers phone was being held.
2) The two phones are perfectly at the same height (presumably in a pocket).
3) The strangers phone is vulnerable.
4) They have NFC enabled.
5) They could hold the phones in contact for the about of time necessary to transfer both an overloaded filed (presumably exceeded a buffer limit) and THEN also transfer the app compromised app that allows the actual hack to work (over a connection with a maximum bandwidth of a few hundred kbits/s).
6) Then after the hack succeeded they remained in contact long enough for the data from the strangers phone to be transferred back to the hackers phone.
All with anyone noticing? That's all assuming they fix whatever issue was causing it to need to be run 185 times before it finally worked? Assuming those 185 times were the incremental transfers of all the data needed? Again I'm still not scared. And this is fixed in Jelly bean (which my S3 is running...doom on you close talking random guy on the street thinking you finally found someone with an S3 to stand uncomfortably close to!).
So that assumption here is what? Someone walks down the street bumping into random strangers repeatedly hoping that:
1) The bump into the side where the strangers phone was being held.
2) The two phones are perfectly at the same height (presumably in a pocket).
3) The strangers phone is vulnerable.
4) They have NFC enabled.
5) They could hold the phones in contact for the about of time necessary to transfer both an overloaded filed (presumably exceeded a buffer limit) and THEN also transfer the app compromised app that allows the actual hack to work (over a connection with a maximum bandwidth of a few hundred kbits/s).
6) Then after the hack succeeded they remained in contact long enough for the data from the strangers phone to be transferred back to the hackers phone.
All with anyone noticing? That's all assuming they fix whatever issue was causing it to need to be run 185 times before it finally worked? Assuming those 185 times were the incremental transfers of all the data needed? Again I'm still not scared. And this is fixed in Jelly bean (which my S3 is running...doom on you close talking random guy on the street thinking you finally found someone with an S3 to stand uncomfortably close to!).
I think that is pretty key here, 185 times at the range of less than and inch or so is basically someone sitting there next to you pretty much touching you for 5 minutes. Obviously this is something that needs to be fixed but I'll hold off on my panic just yet. Even if it worked on the first try someone would have to first identify you as having a vulnerable phone, and where you have if (ie which pocket, etc) then get so close as to be practically touching you and then they have to hope that you have nfc enabled. This isn't some sort of thing you can do just casually walking down the street. It might be an issue for a particular person being targeted but not very likely for a random attack.
Very interesting post (wish I had mod points today). For some people I think the current system works but for others it definitely doesn't. The problem is we want to make this into a race and have everyone judged at the end so we can find "the best" all on equal terms. Education just doesn't work that way though. For my I feel like I would have really benefited from an alternative program like the one suggested above but not homeschooling because I don't think anyone in my family would have done a good job, except perhaps my father. The problem with the home school bandwagon is that it still assumes too much about the make up and capabilities of the families involved. I think we need more, smaller schools with more variety of options of design and format.
We want to be cheap and efficient but we also need big changes and improved techniques that cost a lot. That's just very hard in our penny wise dollar poor system.
The problem is that people read the headline thinking, oh ok now being overweight isn't a problem. In fact that is exactly what my morning new people said on the air today! They're not saying being fat is fine now or that restricting calories will not help you lose weight. They're talking about the theory proposed based on mouse studies that restricting calories down to near starvation levels made the mice live long because it triggered some biological functions that served to allow adults to survive through periods of poor food supply. People here on Slashdot probably get it but people watching the news this morning stuffing themselves with their third McBacon sandwich now thinks they are just fine.
There are two parts to this though. Trade dress is only one part of Apple's case. The other part is about technical patents like pinch to zoom (which is both obvious and prior art) and the part that the juror is talking about in this article. The patent should have been invalidated but instead its being setup to be used against every single other maker of any touch screen device.
Yeah the Anternet is awesome and all but the ping time is crap. I tried playing CS on it and with the horrible ping time everything was just unplayable and then one of them wandered into my power supply and fried my PC.
Absolutely correct. Quite a number of my close female friends (and closer) in my life have told me that they have been raped as well. It truly amazes me how many men I see (mainly online) angrily saying that women all lie about this and seeming to believe it doesn't exist or maybe actively denying that it does. Its a sad statement on our society that people have so little empathy for each other that people are unwilling or unable to put themselves in other peoples shoes and listen to what they have to say without attacking them in response.
The facility to find and flash roms should be easy as easy to access as the app market in my opinion. Google is letting manufacturers and carrier ruin the system with their slow updates and locked in crap. If someone makes a JB rom for my phone I shouldn't have to spent hours trying to find it, and then figuring out how to get it on my phone without bricking it in the process. The instructions that are out there are terrible at best for the most part and risky to even try.
I know people will say stuff about it being a free and open thing and something you are doing at your own risk. But the counter is that as it is it's hard (as in you need to do a lot of reading first) to do and it doesn't need to be. It would be a real boon to the entire Android ecosystem if more open ROMs were available easily and quickly for anyone. People could just find the best rated rom for their phone and flash it to keep it up to date and not be beholden to their stock rom that is a year out of date.
I'm sort of curious about this too (and don't feel like reading through 700+ posts and aggregating the responses).
For myself, 99% of the time its fairly basic math (add, subtract, multiply, divide, etc) but on occasion I have gotten fancy enough to use some trig and statistics. I was pretty happy recently when I came up with a pretty clever trig formula that replaced a large block of code with a single math formula. Never had to use calculus or anything of the sort. I think the theory is that math is logical and therefore gives someone practice as logic and problem solving though I'm not sure I buy it.
Granted I assume these are more sophisticated than traditional missiles and now it seems they'll be land based as well but still these are missiles that phone home.
That I can't figure out what exactly I would use it for, if this thing was a full on Google TV, plus DVR (and maybe keep those social media things...though really that seems like something that should just be built into Google TV). Then sure I'd be fine with the cost and maybe even more! But this thing seems simply less capable than a product they already put out (Google TV) and costs more. I simply can't find a reason to buy...and frankly with the whole straight from Google and made in the US things I kind of want to want to buy it but I don't. Maybe I missed some aspect of its functionality or future but they didn't reveal anything like that from what I saw.
We can’t do that, so you’ve got to be able to do the job perfectly from day one. The only people that can do that are people who are currently doing the same job someplace else. So it’s obviously pretty hard to find people if that’s your definition—if you say, “We want to hire people, and they’ve got to be doing the job right now”—because as you’ve probably heard, a lot of employers won’t accept applications from people who are currently unemployed. So basically we’re saying we’ve got to hire from our competitors. And you know what? There is kind of a shortage of people if you say, “You’ve got to be working for one of our competitors doing exactly the same thing you’re doing now. That’s what we want, and it’s hard to find those people.” Well, it’s probably true, but that’s not a skills gap.
That, that's the issue. I'm gainfully employed but I still find this to be a huge issue. If I want to switch jobs I can pretty much only get another job doing almost exactly what I'm dong here only someplace else. If you want to switch your focus you can only switch one or two key techs at a time. If I get tired of what I've been doing for the last 10+ years, too bad because no one will hire anyone with less than 10 years of experience in a long list of precise criteria any more.
The problem is here in the US, we're faced with a set of false choices. Both sides are lying backstabbing scum bags, it really doesn't matter who you vote for at this point. Obama just doubled down on the proof of this. People who point fingers at one side of the other are just missing the reality of the situation and getting caught up in the gamesmanship that is going on.
These people elected to install a program on their phone from a porn site without considering the security implications. This wasn't a virus breaking in through some security hole. This was a program that required the user to turn off a security setting on the phone and then install ignoring the security page (or they thought "sure it seems completely normal that some porn video player requires those security settings"). So the only blame here is the user doing something entirely stupid. iOS of course fixes this by assuming its users are stupid and locking them into only allowing apps from their market to be installed.
OMG I want a PC I can carry around easily and have a keyboard when I want it. I must be a total freak to what such an odd device. I mean PCs have ALWAYS been laptops and only laptops right? Forever! Desktops never existed. And Tablets have always just been a screen right? For all of human history these devices have been split into the defined types and not one would ever think to try to break those molds....anyone who is even thinking about it should be dragged out into the streets and beaten.
A federal government which consisted primarily of providing a part time legislature for handling treaties, a military for national defense (not national offense like Bush & Obama are fond of), and a court system that handled disputes between the states and ruled if people's Constitutional rights had been violated by state laws would be fairly inexpensive, and could probably be supported by a low excise tax on imports. The states or local governments can and should handle virtually every other aspect of government from roads, social services, etc.
1) So your perfect world is one in which your state drivers license is invalid in every other state because they all have their own government and no cross over?
2) WHY is it that people think that states can do it better? Look at the states were taxes are low and their government is small and you'll also see states where they rank in the lower half for education, road repair, facilities maintenance, crime control, etc. I agree that we need to find a middle ground but states rights is such an idiotic ideal I just don't see the point.
They already spend a large amount of time on negotiating their funding and proving their worth. Every year they have to spend a lot of time justifying their budget and working to keep programs alive. So many people think the Government is just a rubber stamp on more money every year (and I'm sure in some cases that exists) but for the most part it doesn't work like that. I agree we need to work on improving government efficiency but the freak out that people are having on the subject is leading to a lot of misunderstanding.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Learn some things about what AID does before you go around spouting off. Heck if you want to eliminate the vast majority of that 0.5% of the budget just stop having wars and stop supporting Israel (since the vast majority of their budget goes to Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, and Pakistan).
There is this perception that all welfare recipients are these irresponsible drags on society who do nothing and just pop out kids. There certainly are these cases but I think they are more likely your outlier than you realize. There is this narrative that anti-government people like to use where the welfare people are all these drug using urban people living off the government teet but I think anyone believing this should step back and think about how reality works in these sorts of narratives. The world is not this simple black and white place and the easy things to believe are not usually the correct ones. Educate yourself on how welfare programs work and what good they do before you offhandedly judge everyone involved.
Exactly, my wife and I bought it on Amazon after it was out (we hadn't really heard much about it before then so no real wait there). My wife really liked it so she bought the books but now she is getting frustrated that we can't watch the next ones until sometime probably almost a year from now. She has already started talking about pirating it and she isn't even the type of person who knows much of anything about these sorts of things. She would be happy to pay for it but we can't unless we want to pay an additional $60+ a month just to see it.
The entertainment industry is shooting themselves in the feet trying to force everyone into a small box. If they'd just open up and say that your internet access is your medium and everything else is either individual shows or even service packages you can pay for (thus they could still bundle) then they would be doing fine. Now they're just driving potential customers away.
I think its more to eliminate competition. They don't want to provide you access to the competition they want you to pay them for their entertainment services.
For multiple reasons (interface, lack of clutter, fewer ads, etc) but I don't use it much since not many other people use it. I pretty only use FB to see if anyone else posted anything interesting....since that almost never happens I only look at FB once a month or less. Generally I think FB is being used less as well and of the people I know about 90% come either from 5 or so people who seem to have no real life or companies putting up ad posts.
We throw away perfectly working pieces of tech. Thing accumulate around the house and just become clutter to be picked up and tossed during a spring cleaning. The problem is that newer tech makes it so that almost no one even wants old laptops and such. Then there is the risk that there is something person stuck somewhere inside and you have to spend extra effort clearing it completely to be safe if you want to give it away. I have an old laptop sitting around that I have run some clean up tools on and I'm still not quite ready to put it up on Freecycle.
We really need better recycling programs for old Phones, batteries, etc. People are going to just want something new when the new thing is 100x better than the old thing even if the old thing still works.
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I posted this above but here's what I see (maybe I'm missing something so help me out). So that assumption of danger here is what? Someone walks down the street bumping into random strangers repeatedly hoping that:
1) The bump into the side where the strangers phone was being held.
2) The two phones are perfectly at the same height (presumably in a pocket).
3) The strangers phone is vulnerable.
4) They have NFC enabled.
5) They could hold the phones in contact for the about of time necessary to transfer both an overloaded filed (presumably exceeded a buffer limit) and THEN also transfer the app compromised app that allows the actual hack to work (over a connection with a maximum bandwidth of a few hundred kbits/s).
6) Then after the hack succeeded they remained in contact long enough for the data from the strangers phone to be transferred back to the hackers phone.
All with anyone noticing? That's all assuming they fix whatever issue was causing it to need to be run 185 times before it finally worked? Assuming those 185 times were the incremental transfers of all the data needed? Again I'm still not scared. And this is fixed in Jelly bean (which my S3 is running...doom on you close talking random guy on the street thinking you finally found someone with an S3 to stand uncomfortably close to!).
So that assumption here is what? Someone walks down the street bumping into random strangers repeatedly hoping that:
1) The bump into the side where the strangers phone was being held.
2) The two phones are perfectly at the same height (presumably in a pocket).
3) The strangers phone is vulnerable.
4) They have NFC enabled.
5) They could hold the phones in contact for the about of time necessary to transfer both an overloaded filed (presumably exceeded a buffer limit) and THEN also transfer the app compromised app that allows the actual hack to work (over a connection with a maximum bandwidth of a few hundred kbits/s).
6) Then after the hack succeeded they remained in contact long enough for the data from the strangers phone to be transferred back to the hackers phone.
All with anyone noticing? That's all assuming they fix whatever issue was causing it to need to be run 185 times before it finally worked? Assuming those 185 times were the incremental transfers of all the data needed? Again I'm still not scared. And this is fixed in Jelly bean (which my S3 is running...doom on you close talking random guy on the street thinking you finally found someone with an S3 to stand uncomfortably close to!).
I think that is pretty key here, 185 times at the range of less than and inch or so is basically someone sitting there next to you pretty much touching you for 5 minutes. Obviously this is something that needs to be fixed but I'll hold off on my panic just yet. Even if it worked on the first try someone would have to first identify you as having a vulnerable phone, and where you have if (ie which pocket, etc) then get so close as to be practically touching you and then they have to hope that you have nfc enabled. This isn't some sort of thing you can do just casually walking down the street. It might be an issue for a particular person being targeted but not very likely for a random attack.
Very interesting post (wish I had mod points today). For some people I think the current system works but for others it definitely doesn't. The problem is we want to make this into a race and have everyone judged at the end so we can find "the best" all on equal terms. Education just doesn't work that way though. For my I feel like I would have really benefited from an alternative program like the one suggested above but not homeschooling because I don't think anyone in my family would have done a good job, except perhaps my father. The problem with the home school bandwagon is that it still assumes too much about the make up and capabilities of the families involved. I think we need more, smaller schools with more variety of options of design and format.
We want to be cheap and efficient but we also need big changes and improved techniques that cost a lot. That's just very hard in our penny wise dollar poor system.
The problem is that people read the headline thinking, oh ok now being overweight isn't a problem. In fact that is exactly what my morning new people said on the air today! They're not saying being fat is fine now or that restricting calories will not help you lose weight. They're talking about the theory proposed based on mouse studies that restricting calories down to near starvation levels made the mice live long because it triggered some biological functions that served to allow adults to survive through periods of poor food supply. People here on Slashdot probably get it but people watching the news this morning stuffing themselves with their third McBacon sandwich now thinks they are just fine.
There are two parts to this though. Trade dress is only one part of Apple's case. The other part is about technical patents like pinch to zoom (which is both obvious and prior art) and the part that the juror is talking about in this article. The patent should have been invalidated but instead its being setup to be used against every single other maker of any touch screen device.
Yeah the Anternet is awesome and all but the ping time is crap. I tried playing CS on it and with the horrible ping time everything was just unplayable and then one of them wandered into my power supply and fried my PC.
Absolutely correct. Quite a number of my close female friends (and closer) in my life have told me that they have been raped as well. It truly amazes me how many men I see (mainly online) angrily saying that women all lie about this and seeming to believe it doesn't exist or maybe actively denying that it does. Its a sad statement on our society that people have so little empathy for each other that people are unwilling or unable to put themselves in other peoples shoes and listen to what they have to say without attacking them in response.
The facility to find and flash roms should be easy as easy to access as the app market in my opinion. Google is letting manufacturers and carrier ruin the system with their slow updates and locked in crap. If someone makes a JB rom for my phone I shouldn't have to spent hours trying to find it, and then figuring out how to get it on my phone without bricking it in the process. The instructions that are out there are terrible at best for the most part and risky to even try.
I know people will say stuff about it being a free and open thing and something you are doing at your own risk. But the counter is that as it is it's hard (as in you need to do a lot of reading first) to do and it doesn't need to be. It would be a real boon to the entire Android ecosystem if more open ROMs were available easily and quickly for anyone. People could just find the best rated rom for their phone and flash it to keep it up to date and not be beholden to their stock rom that is a year out of date.
I'm sort of curious about this too (and don't feel like reading through 700+ posts and aggregating the responses).
For myself, 99% of the time its fairly basic math (add, subtract, multiply, divide, etc) but on occasion I have gotten fancy enough to use some trig and statistics. I was pretty happy recently when I came up with a pretty clever trig formula that replaced a large block of code with a single math formula. Never had to use calculus or anything of the sort. I think the theory is that math is logical and therefore gives someone practice as logic and problem solving though I'm not sure I buy it.
Granted I assume these are more sophisticated than traditional missiles and now it seems they'll be land based as well but still these are missiles that phone home.
Talk of? There are several remote desktop clients already.
That I can't figure out what exactly I would use it for, if this thing was a full on Google TV, plus DVR (and maybe keep those social media things...though really that seems like something that should just be built into Google TV). Then sure I'd be fine with the cost and maybe even more! But this thing seems simply less capable than a product they already put out (Google TV) and costs more. I simply can't find a reason to buy...and frankly with the whole straight from Google and made in the US things I kind of want to want to buy it but I don't. Maybe I missed some aspect of its functionality or future but they didn't reveal anything like that from what I saw.
We can’t do that, so you’ve got to be able to do the job perfectly from day one. The only people that can do that are people who are currently doing the same job someplace else. So it’s obviously pretty hard to find people if that’s your definition—if you say, “We want to hire people, and they’ve got to be doing the job right now”—because as you’ve probably heard, a lot of employers won’t accept applications from people who are currently unemployed. So basically we’re saying we’ve got to hire from our competitors. And you know what? There is kind of a shortage of people if you say, “You’ve got to be working for one of our competitors doing exactly the same thing you’re doing now. That’s what we want, and it’s hard to find those people.” Well, it’s probably true, but that’s not a skills gap.
That, that's the issue. I'm gainfully employed but I still find this to be a huge issue. If I want to switch jobs I can pretty much only get another job doing almost exactly what I'm dong here only someplace else. If you want to switch your focus you can only switch one or two key techs at a time. If I get tired of what I've been doing for the last 10+ years, too bad because no one will hire anyone with less than 10 years of experience in a long list of precise criteria any more.
The problem is here in the US, we're faced with a set of false choices. Both sides are lying backstabbing scum bags, it really doesn't matter who you vote for at this point. Obama just doubled down on the proof of this. People who point fingers at one side of the other are just missing the reality of the situation and getting caught up in the gamesmanship that is going on.
These people elected to install a program on their phone from a porn site without considering the security implications. This wasn't a virus breaking in through some security hole. This was a program that required the user to turn off a security setting on the phone and then install ignoring the security page (or they thought "sure it seems completely normal that some porn video player requires those security settings"). So the only blame here is the user doing something entirely stupid. iOS of course fixes this by assuming its users are stupid and locking them into only allowing apps from their market to be installed.
OMG I want a PC I can carry around easily and have a keyboard when I want it. I must be a total freak to what such an odd device. I mean PCs have ALWAYS been laptops and only laptops right? Forever! Desktops never existed. And Tablets have always just been a screen right? For all of human history these devices have been split into the defined types and not one would ever think to try to break those molds....anyone who is even thinking about it should be dragged out into the streets and beaten.
A federal government which consisted primarily of providing a part time legislature for handling treaties, a military for national defense (not national offense like Bush & Obama are fond of), and a court system that handled disputes between the states and ruled if people's Constitutional rights had been violated by state laws would be fairly inexpensive, and could probably be supported by a low excise tax on imports. The states or local governments can and should handle virtually every other aspect of government from roads, social services, etc.
1) So your perfect world is one in which your state drivers license is invalid in every other state because they all have their own government and no cross over? 2) WHY is it that people think that states can do it better? Look at the states were taxes are low and their government is small and you'll also see states where they rank in the lower half for education, road repair, facilities maintenance, crime control, etc. I agree that we need to find a middle ground but states rights is such an idiotic ideal I just don't see the point.
They already spend a large amount of time on negotiating their funding and proving their worth. Every year they have to spend a lot of time justifying their budget and working to keep programs alive. So many people think the Government is just a rubber stamp on more money every year (and I'm sure in some cases that exists) but for the most part it doesn't work like that. I agree we need to work on improving government efficiency but the freak out that people are having on the subject is leading to a lot of misunderstanding.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Learn some things about what AID does before you go around spouting off. Heck if you want to eliminate the vast majority of that 0.5% of the budget just stop having wars and stop supporting Israel (since the vast majority of their budget goes to Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, and Pakistan).
There is this perception that all welfare recipients are these irresponsible drags on society who do nothing and just pop out kids. There certainly are these cases but I think they are more likely your outlier than you realize. There is this narrative that anti-government people like to use where the welfare people are all these drug using urban people living off the government teet but I think anyone believing this should step back and think about how reality works in these sorts of narratives. The world is not this simple black and white place and the easy things to believe are not usually the correct ones. Educate yourself on how welfare programs work and what good they do before you offhandedly judge everyone involved.
One interesting article on the topic:
http://womenslawproject.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/debunking-the-myth-of-the-%E2%80%9Cwelfare-queen%E2%80%9D-who-actually-receives-tanf-benefits/
Exactly, my wife and I bought it on Amazon after it was out (we hadn't really heard much about it before then so no real wait there). My wife really liked it so she bought the books but now she is getting frustrated that we can't watch the next ones until sometime probably almost a year from now. She has already started talking about pirating it and she isn't even the type of person who knows much of anything about these sorts of things. She would be happy to pay for it but we can't unless we want to pay an additional $60+ a month just to see it.
The entertainment industry is shooting themselves in the feet trying to force everyone into a small box. If they'd just open up and say that your internet access is your medium and everything else is either individual shows or even service packages you can pay for (thus they could still bundle) then they would be doing fine. Now they're just driving potential customers away.
I think its more to eliminate competition. They don't want to provide you access to the competition they want you to pay them for their entertainment services.
For multiple reasons (interface, lack of clutter, fewer ads, etc) but I don't use it much since not many other people use it. I pretty only use FB to see if anyone else posted anything interesting....since that almost never happens I only look at FB once a month or less. Generally I think FB is being used less as well and of the people I know about 90% come either from 5 or so people who seem to have no real life or companies putting up ad posts.
We throw away perfectly working pieces of tech. Thing accumulate around the house and just become clutter to be picked up and tossed during a spring cleaning. The problem is that newer tech makes it so that almost no one even wants old laptops and such. Then there is the risk that there is something person stuck somewhere inside and you have to spend extra effort clearing it completely to be safe if you want to give it away. I have an old laptop sitting around that I have run some clean up tools on and I'm still not quite ready to put it up on Freecycle. We really need better recycling programs for old Phones, batteries, etc. People are going to just want something new when the new thing is 100x better than the old thing even if the old thing still works.