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Unmasking Anonymous Email Senders

alphadogg writes "Just because you send an email anonymously doesn't mean people can't figure out who you are anymore. A new technique developed by researchers at Concordia University in Quebec could be used to unmask would-be anonymous emailers by sniffing out patterns in their writing style from use of all lowercase letters to common typos. Their research, published in the journal Digital Investigation, describes techniques that could be used to serve up evidence in court, giving law enforcement more detailed information than a simple IP address can produce."

204 comments

  1. Pretty print it first by gatkinso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    run it thru pretty print or some other formatter before sending it.

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    1. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They seriously think an 80% success rate is good enough to be used in court?

      I'm betting the real reason is so they can go to a judge with their pseudo-evidence to get a warrant for more invasive spying.

    2. Re:Pretty print it first by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2

      run it thru pretty print or some other formatter before sending it.

      If it's looking for writing style, not just punctuation, spacing, caps, etc., then you might also want to do an auto-translate back and forth from your language. But that would potentially provide another way to find you if you used an online translator.

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    3. Re:Pretty print it first by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 2

      I can't even see something as good as an 80% match rate on anything less than a full page of text, you'd need a damn huge sample size if you're going to be using typos and capitalization as "fingerprinting".

      Also, doesn't this mean that a simple spellchecker and the auto-capitalization function on many smartphones would defeat this technology?

    4. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      According to Wikipedia an 80% success rate is good enough for most civil cases, and indictment for criminal cases. These are best off a "preponderance of the evidence," or "more likely than not" standard (>50%). Criminal case decisions are based on a standard of "clear and convincing evidence," but 80% would be more than enough to get them in the door.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof#Examples

    5. Re:Pretty print it first by spun · · Score: 3, Informative

      They seriously think an 80% success rate is good enough to be used in court?

      Why not? 19 states and many countries still admit polygraph tests into court, despite the fact that they are wildly inaccurate, and people can be specifically taught to deceive them.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph#Validity

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    6. Re:Pretty print it first by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Informative

      run it thru pretty print or some other formatter before sending it.

      Nah .. run it twice though Google translate

      Nah .. ejecutarlo dos veces a través de Google Translate

      Nah .. twice run through Google Translate

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    7. Re:Pretty print it first by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      80% success rate is worse than a lot of properly trained text categorization tools. I'm also suspecting from skimming the article that this system is even easier to throw off track than most text categorization tools built on solid algorithms.

      Just word yourself a little differently, use the british spelling of a few words instead of your usual american spelling, try to use shorter or longer paragraphs than you would usually use et voilà, you are now a very poor match for those anonymous death threats sent to your boss.

      It's a bit like trying to categorize documents written by someone who also wrote the documents you used for training data and who doesn't want you to successfully categorize the documents...

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    8. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People, by and large, already do. This tech sounds like a very sly way of being able to blame microsoft (hotmail + outlook) for every e-mail ever sent ;)

    9. Re:Pretty print it first by theillien · · Score: 1

      Hell, I don't even date women that are only an 80% match.

    10. Re:Pretty print it first by bugnuts · · Score: 1

      In the old days, we used to pipe our play-by-email instructions through jive(6) to avoid giving away too much info.

      I could see anon email services offering a filter. The fastest way is to convert it to French and back.

    11. Re:Pretty print it first by ron_ivi · · Score: 1

      Translate to and from some other language repeatedly until the translations are the same.
      That way the writing style will resemble the translation program's more than your own.

      An example, using this technique on the above text: http://translationparty.com/#8957181
      "By repeating the same part of the translation has been translated into other languages. Style, translation program, this method is beyond ourselves."

    12. Re:Pretty print it first by callmebill · · Score: 1

      "It's not a lie if _you_ believe it."

    13. Re:Pretty print it first by KahabutDieDrake · · Score: 1

      80% success is better than fingerprint matching OR DNA. So yeah, I think it's likely to stand up in court.

    14. Re:Pretty print it first by hedwards · · Score: 1

      OTOH, that's more efficient than the old system of cutting letters out of the newspaper.

    15. Re:Pretty print it first by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      An 80% success rate is good for two things:

      1. Exculpatory evidence. "Defendant often filled the office printer with paper; that's why his fingerprint is on the death threat letter. Our software indicates only a 20% match to defendant's writing style, so it wasn't him."

      2. Narrowing the suspect list. "We ran the writing analysis software against samples from 20 suspects. It got an 80% match against suspect #1, a 70% match against suspect #2 and no better than a 20% match against anybody else. So we focused the remainder of our investigation on those two."

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    16. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A buddy of mine wanted to get a tattoo of some Japanese characters.

      He had some saying he thought was really deep (not so much) and had translated it using Babelfish to Japanese.

      So I translated it back into English. He took my advice to hold off until he could find a native Japanese speaker.

    17. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's not a lie if _you_ believe it."

      In totally unrelated news, my dick is a foot long.

    18. Re:Pretty print it first by vlueboy · · Score: 1

      thanks.

      you forgot another logical step.
      first, we do what you said,
      then just run it thru a case changer.
      all lowercase sounds good.
      all caps sounds better.

      break up sentences like i'm doing, pretending that
      we're holding a typewritter-style car-return over-compensation.
      all this adds mental noise
      "proving" the fact that the writer
      is nothing more than yet another internet noob.
      why not double any question marks and exclamation points!!??
      throw in unnecessary ellipsis at the end of sentences for suspense ...
      if your mailer permits html colors,
      underlines and smileys, go crazy.
      men do not normally use consecutive smileys beyond triplets
      also, use a pinch of u's, ur's, and other web2.0 hip stuff
      its/it's/there/their misuse and some lolz, and wtfs for good sense
      the last two are things nobody uses in
      real-life documents that are traceable to you
      careful with that because your office emails might show a few samples
      where you do slip unintentionally, and then you're screwed.

      Man, I'd probably make a good spammer. Ugh.

    19. Re:Pretty print it first by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      "It's not a lie if _you_ believe it."

      In totally unrelated news, my dick is a foot long.

      Well I'd like to see that stand up in court.

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    20. Re:Pretty print it first by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting to run that exercise with a non trivial message and then give the results to a someone who hasn't seen the original and see if they can still make sense of it. (I'm guessing not, translation has a lot of subtleties even when using a standard vocabulary.)

    21. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your pattern of writing indicates you are prone to anonymous e-mails.

    22. Re:Pretty print it first by Natural+Join · · Score: 2

      This is called "stylometry": the algorithmic analysis of authorship based on the content of the work in question. There are many scholarly articles out there describing various algorithms out there you can find and read. Early efforts in this area involved testing the Shakespeare/Bacon hypothesis, who wrote which of the Federalist papers, and establishing the authorship of the 15th Oz novel.

      The basic concept is pretty easy. I played a fair bit with the idea back a few years ago when I wanted to prove to myself that a certain usenet troll was actually the same person as another poster. I downloaded a bunch of 19th century novels from Project Gutenberg and tried various published algos until I could accurately cluster authorship. Telling husband and wife apart (Mary Shelley and Percy Shelley) was crazy-easy; the appallingly hard case was Charlotte and Emily Bronte. (They were sisters and grew up together, clearly having a lot of influence on each other's writing styles.)

      Yes, one of the most basic issues of analysis of a stylometry algo is how well does it still work if the author is *trying* to obfuscate his style, or *trying* to imitate another author. There are algorithms that a quite insensitive to such efforts. However, they all seem to require a *lot* of text to work well. My best efforts (using other people's published algorithms) worked quite well on full novels but did not work so well given even as much as a few chapters.

      Oh, and that trolled turned out NOT to be the guy I thought it was.

    23. Re:Pretty print it first by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      So I translated it back into English. He took my advice to hold off until he could find a native Japanese speaker.

      I know someone who did that. Unfortunately, native speaker and practical joker are not mutually exclusive.

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    24. Re:Pretty print it first by arivanov · · Score: 1

      Not good enough. Lexical analysis, dictionary analysis, etc produce enough information to be used as a piece of evidence in court and have been used in court for decades long before the Internet.

      They are not reliable enough by itself, but taken together with other indirect evidence they can tip the scales towards a conviction.

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    25. Re:Pretty print it first by mindaika · · Score: 1

      People aren't typically convicted based solely on the admission of a single piece of polygraph evidence.

    26. Re:Pretty print it first by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 2

      Google translate to German, then back to English, nobody will ever be able to restore the original message!

    27. Re:Pretty print it first by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 1

      Scan them and copy/paste them with Photoshop!

    28. Re:Pretty print it first by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Original:

      There were three men came out of the west, their fortunes for to try
      And these three men made a solemn vow
      John Barleycorn must die
      They've ploughed, they've sown, they've harrowed him in
      Threw clods upon his head
      And these three men made a solemn vow
      John Barleycorn was dead
      They've let him lie for a very long time, 'til the rains from heaven did fall
      And little Sir John sprung up his head and so amazed them all
      They've let him stand 'til Midsummer's Day 'til he looked both pale and wan
      And little Sir John's grown a long long beard and so become a man
      They've hired men with their scythes so sharp to cut him off at the knee
      They've rolled him and tied him by the waist serving him most barbarously
      They've hired men with their sharp pitchforks who've pricked him to the heart
      And the loader he has served him worse than that
      For he's bound him to the cart
      They've wheeled him around and around a field 'til they came unto a barn

      And there they made a solemn oath on poor John Barleycorn
      They've hired men with their crabtree sticks to cut him skin from bone
      And the miller he has served him worse than that
      For he's ground him between two stones

      And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl and his brandy in the glass
      And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl proved the strongest man at last
      The huntsman he can't hunt the fox nor so loudly to blow his horn
      And the tinker he can't mend kettle or pots without a little barleycorn

      ================

      into Frog

      Il y avait trois hommes sont sortis de l'ouest, leur fortune pour essayer
      Et ces trois hommes firent un vÅ"u solennel
      John Barleycorn Must Die
      Ils ont labouré, ils ont semé, ils l'ai déchiré en
      Jeté des mottes sur la tÃte
      Et ces trois hommes firent un vÅ"u solennel
      John Barleycorn est mort
      Ils ont laissé se trouvent pour un temps trÃs long, 'til les pluies ne tombent du ciel
      Et peu à Sir John poussé sa tÃte et si étonné tous
      Ils ont laissé se 'til Midsummer's Day' til il avait l'air pÃle et affaibli à la fois
      Et peu à Sir John a grandi une longue barbe longue et ainsi devenir un homme
      Ils ont engagé les hommes avec leurs faux si vif pour le couper au niveau du genou
      Ils l'ont roulé et attaché par la taille en le servant plus barbare
      Ils ont engagé les hommes avec leurs fourches forte qui l'ai piqué au cÅ"ur
      Et le chargeur, il a servi lui pire que celle
      Pour lui il est lié à la charrette
      Ils l'ont roues autour et autour d'un champ 'jusqu'à ce qu'ils arrivÃrent à une grange

      Et il y ils ont fait un serment solennel sur le pauvre John Barleycorn
      Ils ont engagé les hommes avec leurs bÃtons de Crabtree lui couper la peau de l'os
      Et le meunier, il a servi lui pire que celle
      Pour lui il est au sol entre deux pierres

      Et peu de Sir John et le bol écrou marron et son cognac dans le verre
      Et peu de Sir John et le bol écrou brun prouvé l'homme le plus fort au dernier
      Le chasseur ne peut chasser le renard, ni si fort à souffler dans sa corne
      Et le chaudronnier, il ne peut pas raccommoder bouilloire ou pots sans un grain d'orge peu

      ==========

      And back

      There were three men came from the west to try their fortune
      And these three men made a solemn vow
      John Barleycorn Must Die
      They plowed, they sowed, they have torn
      Threw clods on his head
      And these three men made a solemn vow
      John Barleycorn is dead
      They are left for a very long time 'til the rains from falling from the sky
      And little Sir John's head and pushed all surprised if
      They are left 'til Midsummer's Day' til he looked pale and weakened both
      And little Sir John grew a long beard and so become a man
      They hired

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    29. Re:Pretty print it first by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      They seriously think an 80% success rate is good enough to be used in court? I'm betting the real reason is so they can go to a judge with their pseudo-evidence to get a warrant for more invasive spying.

      How is this modded insightful? This is how the justice system works - when the police can show reasonable probable cause, a judge issues a search warrant. Nor is it pseudo evidence - no more than partial fingerprint matches, noting that you're a left handed red head who matches the description of the left handed suspect and drives the same model car, etc... etc...
       
      It's only pseudo to someone who doesn't believe in mathematics and probably holds other non-scientific beliefs.

    30. Re:Pretty print it first by PRMan · · Score: 1

      Well then, it's a good thing I spell perfectly and don't make typos!

      Dang it! I just incriminated myself, since I seem to be in the 1% of Americans that can.

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    31. Re:Pretty print it first by westlake · · Score: 1

      They seriously think an 80% success rate is good enough to be used in court?

      I'm betting the real reason is so they can go to a judge with their pseudo-evidence to get a warrant for more invasive spying.

      The geek never gets these things right.

      The standards for discovery in a civil case and for a warrant in a criiminal are not the same as the burden of proof at trial.

      Judges do not like excluding relevant evidence even if that evidence is in some ways uncertain or imperfect. Few things in life are certain and perfected

      The burden of proof in a civil case is light: "More probable than not." You may not even need a unaminous verdict.

      Civil cases in state court

      Size and unanimity requirements in civil cases vary considerably under state laws. Less than half the states require twelve-person juries, and about half the states allow for non-unanimous verdicts.

      Calling textual analysis "psuedo evidence" leads nowhere. Courts have been asked to establish the authorship and authenticity of texts and documents for thousands of years. The methods used here may be automated - but they are not unfamiliar.

    32. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it is when 99% of all spam comes from 4 agencies. :-)

    33. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a hint: You can beat it by squeezing your butt cheeks and sphincter.

    34. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not 80%.

      It's 80% of work emails from folks who were not trying to be anonymous.

      Imagine if you could make your fingerprints different when you thought you might be breaking the law. There would never be a fingerprint match.

      Hogwash.

    35. Re:Pretty print it first by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

      80% might be better than some ill advised partial fingerprint match. It's unfortunate, but does happen from time to time. It isn't better than a real match or DNA evidence.

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    36. Re:Pretty print it first by KahabutDieDrake · · Score: 2

      I invite you to be horrified by taking a look at the actual science behind those CSI shows. The threshold for use in court is far far lower than you might imagine it to be. Furthermore, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't have the foggiest idea how DNA evidence is handled in a courtroom, or for that matter a criminal lab. You'll be most pleased to know that not only were you a match to the sample we have, but so are all your immediate male family members, most of your extended family members and something like 5% of the population of the earth. But if you'd prefer to think of fingerprints and DNA as foolproof, please, don't let the facts stop you. It hasn't stopped anyone else.

    37. Re:Pretty print it first by Renevith · · Score: 1

      Messages using a non-trivial, it is running motion not seen the original, they will give interesting results if someone can figure it out yet.

      That it was a message using the results of the first when I need to understand the use of the interesting examples can feel the pit, you do this your need to get you in the clear yet.

      http://translationparty.com/#8959550

    38. Re:Pretty print it first by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      Do me a favor and find out if the user "Clippy" on LessWrong.com is one of the other posters and who that asshole is. Will pay in Bitcoins.

      -- long time angry member of LessWrong.com pissed off at the fucking paperclip maximizer.

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    39. Re:Pretty print it first by kmoser · · Score: 1

      Well I'd like to see that stand up in court.

      "If it please the court..."

    40. Re:Pretty print it first by syousef · · Score: 1

      An 80% success rate is good for two things:

      1. Exculpatory evidence. 2. Narrowing the suspect list.

      Sounds more like a good way to misdirect your effort because you're chasing the wrong guy after incorrectly excluding the right one.

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    41. Re:Pretty print it first by DarkIye · · Score: 1

      You are correct (in fact, perhaps more correct than you think):

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_positive_paradox

    42. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      80 % ! WTF ?
      I'll bet that they would get an 80% match between a kid in grade 5 and his 80 y/o grandmother !

      As stated previously, this sounds more like an "excuse" for a judge granting an otherwise baseless warrant.

      PS: Can they match this AC post with my previous AC posts ? Didn't think so.

    43. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to Wikipedia an 80% success rate is good enough for most civil cases, and indictment for criminal cases. These are best off a "preponderance of the evidence," or "more likely than not" standard (>50%). Criminal case decisions are based on a standard of "clear and convincing evidence," but 80% would be more than enough to get them in the door.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof#Examples

      Standards for scientific evidence.....

      This is why I hire competent, trained, legal advisers instead of listening to dicks.

    44. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Although constant testing can break people sometimes.

      I wonder when they will have enough solid research to produce those detectors that can actually see you lying, in the brain, before you even lie.
      No doubt they will be beaten as well simply by making yourself believe whatever lie is the truth through constant assertion and external stimulus. (music playing while "blah blah is the truth, all other things are lies", anything, all things, even posters)

      Shall be interesting to see if it is broken.
      They should probably do tests on that as well.

    45. Re:Pretty print it first by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      "It's not a lie if _you_ believe it."

      In totally unrelated news, my dick is a foot long.

      Well I'd like to see that stand up in court.

      My client would like to state that, although he has a twenty four inch penis, he only uses half of it as a rule.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    46. Re:Pretty print it first by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      An 80% success rate is good for two things:

      1. Exculpatory evidence. "Defendant often filled the office printer with paper; that's why his fingerprint is on the death threat letter. Our software indicates only a 20% match to defendant's writing style, so it wasn't him."

      2. Narrowing the suspect list. "We ran the writing analysis software against samples from 20 suspects. It got an 80% match against suspect #1, a 70% match against suspect #2 and no better than a 20% match against anybody else. So we focused the remainder of our investigation on those two."

      1. would depend on what other evidence they had against the defendant. If they also had recordings of him making death threats, mock up letters at home of death threats, witnesses seeing him deliver the letter, a history of making death threats, etc, then it would be a case of "there is still a 20% chance that he made the death threat letter, so it definitely doesn't rule him out.

      2. sounds more useful, although again it would depend on what other evidence was available.

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    47. Re:Pretty print it first by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Well then, it's a good thing I spell perfectly and don't make typos!

      You must feel very lonely here.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    48. Re:Pretty print it first by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Scan them and copy/paste them with Photoshop!

      Worryingly, you seem to have given this some serious thought.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    49. Re:Pretty print it first by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It's like the WWI message joke, after passing through several intermediaries:
      Send reinforcements, we're going to advance => send three and fourpence we're going to a dance.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    50. Re:Pretty print it first by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

      You're claim is illogical and self contradictory.

      I never made the claim that they are foolproof. There is a middle ground between foolproof and fundamentally flawed. I simply rejected the laughable notion that fingerprint and DNA evidence (done properly) has less than 80% accuracy. And yes, crime labs do exaggerate the strength of DNA matches, just not by that much.

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    51. Re:Pretty print it first by gatkinso · · Score: 1

      >> sniffing out patterns in their writing style from use of all lowercase letters to common typos

      True, but if you reformat moany of the metrics they are looking for you just seriously screwed with their algorithm.

      But I agree you may want to run it thru a thesaurus and spell checker as well.

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    52. Re:Pretty print it first by I'm+not+god+any+more · · Score: 0

      Nah .. run it twice though Google translate

      Nah .. ejecutarlo dos veces a través de Google Translate

      Nah .. twice run through Google Translate

      Meanwhile a new research group finds an 86% correlation between Google translate logs and "anonymous" emails.
      Might want to stick to some lame dictation software..

    53. Re:Pretty print it first by KahabutDieDrake · · Score: 1

      And now we know why the terribly flawed system perpetuates. Congratulations on your feat of logic.

    54. Re:Pretty print it first by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

      My feat of logic? You made a bad claim, offered no supporting evidence, and then got insulting. I almost mistook you for a troll. (Your recent post history shows that you're just a jerk. That's your choice, I guess...)

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    55. Re:Pretty print it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh, that stuff is too damn old.
      http://www.searchlores.org/lanpat.htm

    56. Re:Pretty print it first by mikewas · · Score: 1

      Combined with other evidence 80% would be pretty good. If you had 5 independent means of determining the perpetrator, each 80% accurate, then you'd be 1 - (0.2^5) = 0.99968 probability, or 99.9968% certainty.

      Or consider the investigation stage. If you only had data from this one method, you can eliminate 80% of the suspects from consideration. Then you can concentrate your efforts on the remaining 20% of the suspects for a five-fold increase of resources bearing on the guilty party. That is huge!

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  2. For the lulz by burnit999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sooo... if I want to write an anonymous letter I just switch from my usual grammar natzi mode to my OMFG i c4/Vz p0ns0r your org MANNNN!

    1. Re:For the lulz by eyrieowl · · Score: 1

      Being a grammar 'natzi' apparently being distinct from being a spelling nazi... ;)

    2. Re:For the lulz by spun · · Score: 2

      shake shake roll... Natzi!

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    3. Re:For the lulz by Idbar · · Score: 1

      You can always type something, and then translate it sequentially into 5 different languages using an on-line translator. After that either the grammar is good or the message is completely scrambled. In any case, no tracks of your writing style.

  3. E E Cummings, that blatant spammer by SMoynihan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Turns out most spam is written by e e cummings.

    Who'd have thought it?

    1. re:e e cummings, that blatant spammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      turns out most spam is written by e e cummings.

      who'd have thought it?

      There, fixed that for you!

    2. Re:E E Cummings, that blatant spammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, most spam is about drugs for larger erections and more powerful orgasms.

  4. "Could care less" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dagnabbit! That means I have to start saying "I could care less" like all the retards on the Internet who can't fathom how that sentence makes no sense whatsoever in order to avoid being the last one on Earth to use it properly and thus be easily identified by my writing "style"! Aaaargh!

    1. Re:"Could care less" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your right.

      (Hah, track me on that!)

    2. Re:"Could care less" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SMACK! If you could care less, you must care. I could NOT care less about you and your American-bashing. You know why? Because I do not care. Would you like another round with the cluebat now?

    3. Re:"Could care less" by Desler · · Score: 2

      Or maybe that person really COULD care less, but their current level of caring is so low it doesn't matter.

    4. Re:"Could care less" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SMACK! If you could care less, you must care. I could NOT care less about you and your American-bashing. You know why? Because I do not care. Would you like another round with the cluebat now?

      I could give a shit.

    5. Re:"Could care less" by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      SMACK! If you could care less, you must care. I could NOT care less about you and your American-bashing. You know why? Because I do not care. Would you like another round with the cluebat now?

      Well done, genius, you just proved that the phrase makes no sense. You do not use "I could care less/couldn't care less" to mean that you currently care a bit about something; it means you do not care about it at all.

      "I couldn't care less if you got run over by a bus" doesn't mean "I am currently a little concerned about your getting run over by a bus, but I could be less concerned". It means "I do not care now, and will not care in the future,if you get runover by a bus."

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  5. Finally, they can find that one guy by _0xd0ad · · Score: 5, Funny

    who always types part of the body of his message in the subject line.

  6. Too easy to fake by trollertron3000 · · Score: 2

    Yes but unlike writing this can be easily duplicated. Writing using someone else's style isn't an easy task. Doing it with a keyboard, very easy.

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    1. Re:Too easy to fake by jgagnon · · Score: 1

      I sense a new market opportunity for "text laundering".

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      Remember to maintain your supply of /facepalm oil to prevent chafing.
    2. Re:Too easy to fake by gknoy · · Score: 1

      A perl script with a few lines of punctuation-removal and whitespace normalization would do wonders.

    3. Re:Too easy to fake by killmenow · · Score: 1

      Or run your text through a google translate twice like: NativeLanguage->Foreign->Native. Hey, the translation is 80% accurate!

    4. Re:Too easy to fake by killmenow · · Score: 1

      I have my God was only realized later that it was at least two previous posts about the same thing.

      ...was originally:

      My god I posted this and only later realized there were at least two earlier posts suggesting the same thing.

      (English->French->German->Afrikaans->Greek->English)

    5. Re:Too easy to fake by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Now, automate it and blast away!

      --
      There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
    6. Re:Too easy to fake by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      That's awweady been done. But I can't show an exampow, because Swashdot appawentwy specificawy wequested that this site not be twanswitewated.

    7. Re:Too easy to fake by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I am needing this URGENT but I have one doubt about the same.

      Pls send codes to do the needful and revert.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    8. Re:Too easy to fake by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Or run your text through a google translate twice like: NativeLanguage->Foreign->Native. Hey, the translation is 80% accurate!

      Congratulations! You are the one millionth person to make the same comment in this thread.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  7. Behavioral Profiling rediscovered by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    Pretty sure profiling and behavioral analysis has been around for a long time.

    --
    Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
    1. Re:Behavioral Profiling rediscovered by OrangeCowHide · · Score: 3, Funny

      But this is on a computer... On the internet. That's like double implicit innovation.

      --
      Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains. - Evilest Doe
    2. Re:Behavioral Profiling rediscovered by Minwee · · Score: 1

      But this is on a computer... On the internet. That's like double implicit innovation.

      So you can patent it.

  8. Verily, I am scrod by kmdrtako · · Score: 2

    wherefore did I ever adopt such a distinctive writing style.

    1. Re:Verily, I am scrod by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

      Information for /. readers: A scrod is a fish *and* is the model of car with large fins driven by Ratliff in the comic strip Eye Beam by Sam Hurt.

    2. Re:Verily, I am scrod by kmdrtako · · Score: 1

      whoosh.

    3. Re:Verily, I am scrod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A lady gets into a car at Logan airport. When the drivers asks "Well, where to, lady?" she replies "Could you tell me where I could get scrod?" The cab driver replace, "Well, sure, you can get a nice one down on Washington Street, but I never heard it in the pluperfect subjunctive before!"

    4. Re:Verily, I am scrod by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

      Double whoosh.

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      I won't join Slashcott. OTOH, If Beta goes live, I just won't be back until it's fixed. Sorry Dice.
  9. A new technique? by SudoGhost · · Score: 1

    This only really applies when you have something to compare it with. Besides, this technique just forensic document examination, which is older than computers are, how is this news?

    1. Re:A new technique? by jgagnon · · Score: 1

      It's news BECAUSE it is on Slashdot, silly. :p

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  10. Interesting, but easily defeated by zindorsky · · Score: 2

    I'm not saying the research is worthless, but their techniques are easily defeated.
    It would be simple to write a program that would iteratively "fuzz" your message with typos, lowercase/uppercase toggling, etc. and check the result against their algorithm until the message could no longer be tied to you.
    I'm sure someone could do it in 10 lines of Perl, or less.

    --
    If the geiger counter does not click, the coffee, she is not thick.
    1. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1

      Surely they are already doing this? The spam I'm getting is universally atrociously written, probably in an attempt to escape spam filters, I suppose.

    2. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by Whalou · · Score: 1

      I'm sure someone could do it in 10 lines of Perl, or less.

      Isn't there a law or something like that that states that anything that can be written in 10 lines of Perl can be written in 1 line of Perl?

      (Sorry for the amount of 'that's in the previous sentence.)

      --
      English is not this .sig mother tongue...
    3. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by vux984 · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying the research is worthless, but their techniques are easily defeated.

      And...?

      It would be simple to write a program that would iteratively "fuzz" your message with typos, lowercase/uppercase toggling, etc. and check the result against their algorithm until the message could no longer be tied to you. I'm sure someone could do it in 10 lines of Perl, or less.

      Of course it would be easy to defeat. But document analysis techniques have been around for decades... maybe not this specific algorithm, but analyzing typos, vocabulary, etc is a pretty old concept.

      Were Sarah Palin's hacked emails "fuzzed" ? Were the wikileaks cables "fuzzed"? Were the Pentagon Papers "fuzzed"? When was the last time you saw a blog, or even a comment post "fuzzed"?

      I guess this technique might be pretty useful after all despite the fact that it can be "easily defeated"... because it turns out that most people don't fuzz their documents, even the embarrassing shit they might like to have plausible deniability on later...

    4. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by Slutticus · · Score: 1

      No, I believe the law states "anything that can be written in 100 lines of Perl can be written in 1 line of Python"

    5. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shore thin I"v gut one ov thse programs Running in my hands soo it is BeTween by brain and the ke byoard.

    6. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Isn't there a law or something like that that states that anything that can be written in 10 lines of Perl can be written in 1 line of Perl?

      It was ruled unconstitutional last week.
      http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-1036.pdf

    7. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by hedwards · · Score: 2

      As has been pointed out by others, in the past you couldn't auto-translate it into another language and back. You lose virtually all of the identifiable information that would help them analyze the document like that.

    8. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by vux984 · · Score: 2

      As has been pointed out by others, in the past you couldn't auto-translate it into another language and back. You lose virtually all of the identifiable information that would help them analyze the document like that.

      And people still don't bother most of the time; so the tech is still useful.

      For example, forensic fingerprinting technology is defeated by wearing gloves, but that hasn't rendered the technology irrelevant either.

    9. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      So what you'd be writing is a fairly simple minded encryption program... The output of which would likely be fairly recognizable and very likely would still contain the 'fingerprints' of the original writing. I.E. with sufficient text, they'd still be able to tell the difference between a message written by you, and a message written by me - but with the additional disadvantage of not having a 'reverse' function and thus making the text difficult to read by the intended recipient.

      So I suspect it's much less easy than you think to write a simple Perl script that both a) renders your input unrecognizable even under mathematical analysis, and b) retains enough of the sense of the original and sufficient resemblance to common English that the recipient could unambiguously understand the contents.

    10. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      And people still don't bother most of the time;

      They will now. And in the real world, there's going to be far too many coincidences and people who, accidentally or not, use a different writing style than usual. Doing so is even more simple than wearing a glove. 80% in the real world? Not at all.

      --
      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    11. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by wdsci · · Score: 1

      Wait, Perl has lines?

    12. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by IICV · · Score: 1

      And people still don't bother most of the time; so the tech is still useful.

      For example, forensic fingerprinting technology is defeated by wearing gloves, but that hasn't rendered the technology irrelevant either.

      Exactly - it means we still only catch the lazy criminals.

      My wife watches a lot of those "true crime" TV shows - like Snapped - and invariably the narrative goes something like "police gave up for five months, until the suspect came in and confessed" or "police had no leads, until the suspect's neighbor turned in a gun he'd found while mowing the lawn".

      And that's just the cases where the police officially realize that there's a crime in the first place, and don't just assume it's a suicide or something because there's less paperwork that way.

      Seriously, if crime was actually as much of a problem as the media seems to want us to believe, we'd all be screwed because our police forces are woefully equipped to actually solve crimes more complicated than "gee officer, I don't know why my cheating husband is dead and there's a right-angled poker with my fingerprints on it next to his corpse". Good thing we live in a mostly civilized country, in a mostly civilized world, and most serious crimes are crimes of passion.

    13. Re:Interesting, but easily defeated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are thinking of a proof by induction:

      Any sufficiently complex piece of software written in Perl can be reduced in line count by a factor of 10.
      Any sufficiently complex piece of software written in Perl will contain at least one bug.

      By induction: Any sufficiently complex piece of software written in Perl can be reduced to a single line of Perl code that will not work.

  11. Simple by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Informative

    Use Google translate. Translate it into Spanish, then into German, then back into English, then into LEET.

    It should be simple to obscure the style and weaknesses of the author with this method.

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    1. Re:Simple by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      With Google Translate. Translate into Spanish, then German, then English, then in LEET.

      It should be easy to hide the style of the author and weaknesses with this method

      I was expecting some hilariously screwed up result, but that turned out rather well. It also masked your writing style.

    2. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used Google translate to translate your post into Spanish, then German, then back to English. Here is the result:

      With Google Translate. Translate into Spanish, then German, then English, then in LEET.

      It should be easy to hide the style of the author and weaknesses with this method.

    3. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google translate via Spanish and German:

      "With Google Translate. Translate into Spanish, then German, then English, then in LEET.

      It should be easy to hide the style of the author and weaknesses with this method."

      Just make sure Google stops improving their language-recognition and you should be ok. Or doesn't tune it to match your style :)

    4. Re:Simple by nametaken · · Score: 1

      I'd guess any repetitive technique like this with more than one obfuscation would make it increasingly unique and identifiable, no? If we're looking to lower the confidence of matching, maybe aim for the common denominator.

      Perhaps it's better to write to a fourth grade level and just run everything against a common spell check engine, like the one in Outlook?

    5. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With Google Translate. Translate into Spanish, then German, then English, then in LEET.

      It should be easy to hide the style of the author and weaknesses with this method

      Translate with Google. Translate into Spanish, then German, then English, then in LEET.

      It should be simple, style and weaknesses of the author with this method in the dark.

    6. Re:Simple by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      It's also a fairly simple and trivial message. I suspect that a longer passage, more like normal text, would not survive too well. Translation is fairly complex, and even though Google Translate does a fairly good (albeit mechanical) job... I find that it often misses the nuances and suffers greatly if you use a vocabulary much above the grade school level.
       
      Case in point, the text above run through the process above:
       
      There is also a very simple message and trivial. I suspect that a longer passage, more like a text could not survive well. The translation is very complex, and although Google Translate has a pretty good job (albeit mechanical) ... I think that often missed the nuances, and suffer greatly if you use a vocabulary far above the primary school.

    7. Re:Simple by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I too was surprised, since I meant it mainly as a joke. I thought that English to Spanish to German would cause some amusement. Probably better to go outside of the European languages.

      I was also surprised, especially since I did not mean it is a joke. I thought that the English and Spanish and German would cause some amusement. Probably best to go out of the EU languages.

      So that was English to Swahili to Finnish to English. Not bad actually just one small edit for meaning and it would be pretty dang good.

      I was also surprised, especially since I did mean it is a joke. I thought that the English and Spanish and German would cause some amusement. Probably best to go out of the EU languages.

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    8. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I skipped the leet-speak part and got:

      It should be easy to hide the style of the author and weaknesses with this method.

    9. Re:Simple by laddiebuck · · Score: 1

      And make quite sure you're incomprehensible. Even one pass would make sure you sounded like a complete dick. But think about it, this wouldn't change your sentence length distribution, for instance.

    10. Re:Simple by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      So, give Google the evidence. I think I'll pass.

      --
      An SQL query goes to a bar, walks up to a table and asks, "Mind if I join you?"
  12. Google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Translate your text to some language, then back to English. For added fun, your letters will also be much more confusing.

  13. I don't need to RTFA to tell you this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new technique developed by researchers at Concordia University in Quebec could be used to unmask would-be anonymous emailers by sniffing out patterns in their writing style from use of all lowercase letters to common typos.

    Although the typical "democratic" legal system is all sorts of fucked, as per the usual political pandering, I would hope that nobody could actually be convicted of a crime on this alone.

  14. I recall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was how they caught the Unabomber. They published his diatribes, and his brother recognized his odd mixed up idioms.

  15. I'd be easy by weave · · Score: 1

    I developed a bad habit in very early days of usenet when there was a weird bug with Pnews where you had to begin a post with a blank line -- so to this day I still start every email (written in Pine) with a blank line first for some reason.

    1. Re:I'd be easy by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Ah. It's been a long time since I've thought about sacrifices to the line eater.

      An old religion worshiping an unforgiving and primitive god.

      I guess if your online writing style was incubated in the Usenet era, it might have enough quirks and idiosyncrasies to be identifiable.

      --
      Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    2. Re:I'd be easy by Culture20 · · Score: 1


      I totally know what you mean.
      .
      ^D
      ^D^D^D
      ^C
      ^Zbg
      ???

    3. Re:I'd be easy by weave · · Score: 1

      Nice. Thanks for those links. Interesting. I forgot the details and reasons for the initial empty line besides "you were just supposed to do it" (and I still do) ... back in the days when an entire big 7 news feed was about 20 megabytes a day.

  16. This is why I cut & paste by dim5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is why I cut & paste each word of anonymous emails from an online dictionary.

    Untraceable.

    --

    Is something burning?
    Oh, it's my karma.

    1. Re:This is why I cut & paste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DAMN yOu, i Came HEre to maKE tHAt jokE.

  17. The digital equivilent of cutting up magazines. by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It used to be that people would cut words from magazines and other papers to make ransom notes so no one could recognize their hand writing.

    With this concept moving to the computer and internet, it will be trivial to find words, phrases, auto generation scripts and so on to do the digital equivalent. In fact, I think there are several programs out there that will pull random lines of text from several sources on the internet, take a real message and create a image of some sort to lay information over top of it, all just to get around spam filters. (disable the display of image in your email and you will be surprised at what is underneath them sometimes).

    But something I can see this really having a problem with is how easy it might make the chance at setting someone else up to take a fall. Suppose you and I have emailed each other for quite some time now. I saved all our correspondence and farmed them to find phrases and word misspellings, cut and pasted them to make statements you never intended to make, then sent them off to threaten the president. Something even more disturbing, suppose we know each other in real life and I have the hots for your wife. I make my way into your house, plant some pipes and fertilizer beside some diesel fuel in one of your closets, get on your computer, sign up for a free email address from it using fake information and start spamming chat rooms and emailing government officials your intent to kill the president.

    1. Re:The digital equivilent of cutting up magazines. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It used to the hots for your computer, sign up to lay information and create a real life and fertilizer beside some time now. I can see this really having a problem with is how easy it using fake information over top of image in real message and internet, it using fake information over top of text from it will be that will pull random lines of it, all our correspondence and you and so on your closets, get around spam filters. (disable the president. Something even more disturbing, suppose we know each other for your house, plant some pipes and pasted them sometimes). But something I think there are several sources on your email and other papers to find words, phrases, auto generation scripts and word misspellings, cut and word misspellings, cut and you and internet, take a real message and start spamming chat rooms and pasted them sometimes). But something I make ransom notes so no one of it, all just to the chance at what is how easy it will be trivial to find phrases and emailing government officials your computer, sign up for quite some sort to get around spam filters.

    2. Re:The digital equivilent of cutting up magazines. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, so much trouble to get my wife!
      You should just ask, the bitch is all yours and good luck!
      You'll need it, I can tell you!
      Now, when can I expect you to come and take her away?
      Don't let me down, be a man, don't chicken up on me!

  18. Safemaker, Safebreaker by sehlat · · Score: 1

    In any event, the same techniques, available in open literature, can be used to build a
    "Free Speech Anonymizer" package which would take and analyze a sample of your
    emails and then analyze a new one, looking for the patterns you've used in the past
    and suggesting changes to avoid them. Sort of a spell/grammar-check-in-reverse.

    Ain't that right, Floyd?

    1. Re:Safemaker, Safebreaker by Ruke · · Score: 1

      Huh, I wonder how well a Markov model applied here would work? Given a large body of your own writing, as well as a large body of writing from the internet, a computer could compare the likelihood of both you and the average person using any given 4- or 5- word tuple, and notify you where you use a phrase that you are statistically much more likely to use than the average person.

    2. Re:Safemaker, Safebreaker by sehlat · · Score: 1

      Or suggest substitute phrases that are statistically much more likely to be used. You can sound like any average idiot and nobody will be able to tell it's you. :)

  19. Forthwith by Ngarrang · · Score: 1

    ...the King's English shall be for thee to hide thine criminal ways.

    --
    Bearded Dragon
    1. Re:Forthwith by gizmonic · · Score: 1

      Word, even unto thy mother.

      --
      WWJD?
      JWRTFM!
  20. guess who i am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Academic papers are worthless until they are peer reviewed and 3rd party tested in an implementation. There are only a few journals that screen submissions well.

  21. The actual research paper by Sara+Chan · · Score: 4, Informative

    The actual research paper is at

    http://www.dfrws.org/2008/proceedings/p42-iqbal.pdf

    Note that it was published in 2008. So Slashdot is reporting relatively quickly here.

  22. Arrest Fung at once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>> "In the past few years, we've seen an alarming increase in the number of cybercrimes involving anonymous emails," says study co-author Benjamin Fung, a professor of Information Systems Engineering at Concordia University, in a statement. "These emails can transmit threats or child pornography, facilitate communications between criminals or carry viruses."

    His e-mail contains all the right key words, why isn't he in jail already?

  23. Oh really? Well I wish them by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    the best of luck in their attempt.

    --
    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  24. Not Anonymous by khr · · Score: 2

    I long ago gave up any idea that my writing would be very anonymous...

    As an American working in software companies in India for ten years, whenever managers sent out surveys they said would be "totally anonymous" I always figured with my American writing style (complete sentences, very few typos, no "spel it like u sa it", active voice, writing out our product and company name in full) everyone would recognize it was my writing anyway... And that was usually the case, as people who weren't supposed to know who wrote what would invariably reply to me, "hey, why did you write that?"

  25. Very easy to frame someone, too by mangu · · Score: 1

    What can be done can be undone. If this gets accepted as evidence in court, why not get a sample of someone's writing and duplicate it in a compromising message?

  26. oh good, voodoo is evidence by inkscapee · · Score: 1

    Just what we need, something iffy given the status of actual evidence. I feel much better now.

  27. I'm writing this statement with .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm writing this statement with the knowledge that it will be tracked.

    I think the article has many interesting points. I will think about them.

    When you can't be anonymous and you realize that anything and everything you say can be tracked back to you, you will never be genuine. Ever.

    Of course, I am joking. I'll be completely genuine for YOU!

    Did I mention that even if one posts something genuine, they'll hedge just in case they're tracked down?

    Of course, I would never hedge, but others might.

    But of course, ALL OF YOU understand this because you're the most intelligent folks on the internet.

    Then again, there are others who are most intelligent and insightful - that means YOU - whoever tracks me down and shoves this post in my face. Kudos to you for being soooooo internet saving for finding this post!

    Then again, if anyone finds this post offensive, I am completely joking! This is a joke! Really, I always joke!

    No, I'm just joking!

    1. Re:I'm writing this statement with .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I write this statement knowing that it is being pursued.

      I think the article has many interesting points. I'll think about it.

      If you are not anonymous and you realize that everything you say you can be traced back, will never really can be. Never.

      Of course I'm kidding. I'm quite right for you!

      Did I mention that when a show something authentic, it covers in case you follow?

      Of course, never cover, but others can.

      But of course, understands all this because you're the smartest people on the Internet.

      There are also other, more intelligent and interesting is - it means - Memories of me and push this post on my face. Congratulations to you who saves soooooo Internet this post to find it!

      On the other hand, if anyone has this post offensive, I absolutely love! This is a joke! Actually, I always fun!

      No, just kidding!

  28. Uhm... duh? by assantisz · · Score: 1

    Does this really come as a surprise?

  29. not really that impressive by wrencherd · · Score: 1

    So, ThEy're VEry good at Judging OBScure punctuation patterns to determine email authorship?

    Baloney! wILL you Give me A . . .hmm, Too hard to finESse that last bit.

  30. I write in the style of the recipient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the time I write emails in the style the recipient writes in. Same idea as talking to the level of the listener.

  31. Lost in translation (or how to obfuscate writing) by unsupported · · Score: 1

    To anonymize your writing all you have to do is translate your original text into a second language and then translate the secondary language back into the original language. Any nuance or personalization would be lost in translation.

    According to a friend this works for plagiarizing papers.

    --
    Yopu for you?
  32. Dear Newt Gingrich: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. Yeah, that guy's an by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    asshole.

  34. Just change your writing style by kvvbassboy · · Score: 1

    Wait wut? Whenever I write an anonymous message or letter, I always change my writing style randomly to something else. It's not just machines which can parse through capitalizations, punctuations and spelling errors in a text, you know?

  35. ya, ok. by tboulay · · Score: 1

    Cash, Internet cafe, translate, translate back, send.

    Research money well spent huh.

  36. I can imitate your writing style by spun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even worse than false negatives would be false positives. Maybe those death threats to your boss sound just like you, use the same words you use, the same grammar, everything. That's because your jealous coworker pirated himself a copy of this program, fed some writing of yours through it, and then kept editing those death threats until the program claimed they sounded just like you.

    --
    - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
    1. Re:I can imitate your writing style by westlake · · Score: 1

      That's because your jealous coworker pirated himself a copy of this program, fed some writing of yours through it, and then kept editing those death threats until the program claimed they sounded just like you.

      The poison pen is ego driven. The ultimate DIY project.

      Here is sampling of the real thing:

      Perverts welcome.

      When a male teacher was in the mood for a little sex between classes, militant teacher [Jane Doe] was happy to help out, by writing a hall pass for a female student.

    2. Re:I can imitate your writing style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, GLaDOS, is that you?

  37. The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten! by Cyberax · · Score: 1

    The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten!

    1. Re:The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten! by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten!

      I just tried that famous phrase via google and got ..

      The flesh is weak but the spirit is willing. => Russian => the flesh is weak but the spirit is ready.

      I'm sure a native Russian speaker could debate the choice of "ready" over "willing" (Especially if I could paste from translate to here!)

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      I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
    2. Re:The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten! by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Informative
      I'm a native Russian speaker and this phrase, indeed, can't be mistranslated this way (I just used it as a well known example). However, it's true that attempting to automatically translate ANYTHING non-trivial from English to Russian invariably results in hilarity.
      For example, I've tried to translate the next Slashdot article's blurb:

      "Google Voice users learned late Monday that the service now has a way of making purely Internet-based phone calls. Making a SIP call with a "sip:" prefix, the Google Voice phone number and @sip.voice.google.com skips the conventional phone network entirely, saving users cellphone minutes. Disruptive Telephony tested it and found that a call worked "great.""

      "Disruptive" was translated as "explosive" in the sense of "trinitrotoluene", and "great" was translated as "big". Translating it back resulted in:

      "Google Voice users learned late Monday that the service is now a way to make a clean Internet phone calls Make a call with SIP. "Sip:" prefix, Google Voice phone transmits the number and@sip.voice.google.com common telephone network fully, saving minutes of mobile phone users. Explosive Telephone tested it and found that the call worked "big""

      You can probably still guess the meaning, but it's not exactly easy.

    3. Re:The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten! by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Sounds just like those outsourced business sending you news feeds advertising their products.

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    4. Re:The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      With Lost in translation I get:

      The meat is weak person, but the spirit is immediate.

      That's without including Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. If I include them, I get

      It correctly warms up the key in and [in

      Of course the "original" was already wrong ...

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  38. What do you mean that someone who types the messag by bongey · · Score: 0

    e in the subject line.

  39. This gives writers like me an edge in AC by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    I actually write in different styles, and used that for different RPG game systems and stories - now all I have to do is go to a nearby cafe (cant go a block without running into two) and use their free computers using different personas.

    In fact, I think I'll start studying the writing styles of Cheney, Rove, and Fnarf and using them as writing templates for my next posts ...

    Pretty easy to do.

    I think most of my current personae are quite radically different in writing style from my other published pseudonyms.

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  40. Use non-similar languages to get weirdness. by carpefishus · · Score: 1

    To Japanese and back to Engilish: Google Translate. Then translated into Spanish for REITs and German, and English. This author and disadvantages, should be easy to hide the style of using this method.

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  41. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As you run through the translator and back. This will do much to get rid of your telltale habits.

  42. Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    I'm sure I saw this in an episode of Numb3rs once. :-P

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  43. This is progress... how? by rs1n · · Score: 1

    Their conclusion is completely off base. Even if their software is 100% accurate, it can only categorize a certain style of writing as having come from a single person (and that's still debatable since it's not too hard to duplicate type-written styles). What if every anonymous writer uses the same script to turn their text into "1337"-speak? The software would not have the ability to match the style to any one person -- it can only conclude that it is very likely that such types of a message was written by the same person/script.

  44. Re:Simple ~ so you would not have too...now -1 me by cboslin · · Score: 1

    Use Google translate. Translate it into Spanish, then into German, then back into English, then into LEET.

    It should be simple to obscure the style and weaknesses of the author with this method.

    Okay lets try this, setting English to Spanish; than Spanish to German; than German to English...because you don't want to, but you are curious like curious George.

    Google Tranlate to Spanish:

    Utilizar Google Translate. Traducir al español, luego en alemán, a continuación, de nuevo en Inglés, entonces en LEET.
    Debe ser fácil de ocultar el estilo y las debilidades del autor con este método.

    Google Translate to German:

    Mit Google Translate. Übersetzen ins Spanische, dann Deutsch, dann wieder in Englisch, dann in LEET.
    Es sollte einfach den Stil des Autors und Schwächen mit dieser Methode zu verstecken.

    Google Tranlate from German to English

    With Google Translate. Translate into Spanish, then German, then English, then in LEET.
    It should be easy to hide the style of the author and weaknesses with this method

    Could not find LEET in Google Translate, it must really be something....

  45. Re: 80% by SimonTS · · Score: 0

    In the UK 80% of the jury is enough to convict you of a crime, so I suspect that over here the courts would probably jump at an 80% success rate.

    Personally I don't see how this can be anything other than subjective as there are far too many ways to get round it.

  46. Caps lock by wvisaacs · · Score: 1

    or run on sentences that have absolutely not punctuated and horribel speeling to bot then theyll never no it was u but comprehnsion might go down the toobs

  47. Re:I recall - he is correct, mod up, not down... by cboslin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is an except that proves anonymous post is correct:

    But even Unabombers are not infallible. Exulting in his apparent mastery of the FBI, the master criminal made his mistake, in the form of a 35,000- word treatise on the "Future of Industrial Society", which he submitted to the Washington Post and New York Times. If they published the rambling, anti-technology manifesto, the writer said, he would cease his campaign. After much soul-searching, the two papers did so on 20 September 1995, on the advice of the FBI.

    Relatives in Chicago were struck by similarities between some of Ted Kaczynski's earlier writings and the rambling musings of the Unabomber's tract, and eventually his brother informed the FBI. And so the trail of 18 years, dotted with 200 detained suspects along the way, led to a hand- built cabin near the Continental divide. But the tale may not yet be over.

    Here is the article from the Independent.

    I recollected that this was how the Unabomber was finally caught, via relatives who read his writings and recognized him... I respect that some mods might not like anonymous cowards, but if they are correct they should not be modded down, at least not to be fair.

  48. Your "friend" by nowen2dot · · Score: 1

    According to a friend this works for plagiarizing papers.

    I see. And how often does your friend do this?

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    1. Re:Your "friend" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh, I have a new friend.

    2. Re:Your "friend" by unsupported · · Score: 1

      No, really, it was my friend. I believe it was a one time only case/example.

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  49. By the way, which one's Pink? by MarkvW · · Score: 1

    It won't ever BE evidence, but it will lead to evidence. I'm sure the NSA uses software like this along with speech recognition software and voiceprint recognition software to create investigative leads for follow-up.

  50. Clip and paste by RickyG · · Score: 1

    I guess we will have to do like in the "old" days. Clip words and letters from newspapers and magazines, and paste them in the email... Another trick. Send it through a translator to another language, then back to your native tongue. There is always something "missing in translation" and one of them is always the style of the writer...

  51. grammar and spell check before u send! by henryj · · Score: 1

    If the guy used a good grammar and spell checker when sending out the anonymous email, all this analysis would be quite useless. I'm a long time client of CryptoHeaven http://www.cryptoheaven.com/ and I feel very confident that my emails remain fully anonymous... -henry

  52. Re:Dear Newt Gingrich: infinity.com? by cboslin · · Score: 1

    Sincerely

    I got www.infinity.com when I converted....is that what you intended? Here is the first page of that website, sans pagination...not very friendly, lmao.

    Note: Do NOT enter "INTERNAL/" as part of your user name. This is a SunGard Application Service Provider environment, which may be accessed and used only for official business by authorized personnel. Unauthorized access or use of this environment is prohibited and may subject violators to administrative, and/or criminal, civil action. Users (authorized or unauthorized) have no explicit or implicit expectation of privacy. All information on this environment may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, read, copied, audited, inspected and disclosed by and to authorized personnel. User Login User ID / Alias Password Remember my User ID Branch:trunk rev:27566 date:Tue, Jun 29 2010 03:55:27, EDT

    To get to above, I used the following steps:

    This site - www.onlineconversion.com which I found thanks to Google.

    Then it was simple as selecting Number conversions, than bits to bytes, total time from start to finish, approx 10 minutes and I do not have any special insight into the subject, topic, though I have worked as an Data Conversion Consultant at one time in my past. Not sure that helped as much as being a programmer and figuring it was in binary....it was a fun excercise...was just wondering if I were right or not?

  53. Thats it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Im unsuscribing form /. RSS feed, sick and tired of getting useless, speculative, crap fed to me.
    Goodbye

  54. y0u m34n t0 s4y . . . by SaroDarksbane · · Score: 0

    1v3 b33n typ1ng l1k3 th15 4 n0 r34s0n??? d4mn1t!! My pl4n5 r f01l3d 4g41n!

  55. Just Google it... by ironjaw33 · · Score: 2

    Every once in awhile, I get a trollish and insulting comment on my blog. Usually, the commenter leaves the name field anonymous but leaves a valid email address as an invitation for me to take the bait and respond. A quick google search of the email often reveals other trollish comments posted by the same user elsewhere on the internet, and usually they slip up at least once and leave their name. From there, it's pretty easy to find out more personal information.

    1. Re:Just Google it... by Suhas · · Score: 1

      I don't buy this, What kind of an idiot will leave their real name on an internet post?

      -Trey

  56. Re:Simple ~ so you would not have too...now -1 me by vlueboy · · Score: 1

    Google makes money data mining. You shouldn't trust them with nefarious anti-government translations; if they never delete one e-mail, they will definitely never lack the same logging for your translation activities.

    I'm also starting to think that trusting my web searches to them all these years may not be such a good idea, even if their dashboard claims they've already deleted it.

    That said, duckduckgo isn't as good for searching and lacks mapping and similar all-in-one google conveniences. Their translations are the best; one and a half order of magnitude better than the babelfish I used till last year. Google translate sentences stay on topic more than 90% of the time in long pages, rather than having completely obvious topic changes when a particular noun or verb has multiple pairs to translate to. That said, I would prefer a flaky translation because noise can anonymize you.

    It's the first time I'm accepting that not all job board spammers are ESL chinese or russians living outside the USA; it makes sense that more than a handful write badly precisely to obscure the source behind foreign speech and overseas TLDs that globalization allows us to rent without setting a foot in far away lands. Example: "bit .ly"

  57. Re:Lost in translation (or how to obfuscate writin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To Anonymous, the original text after the second languages, to write all of the following must be converted back to the original language. The personalization of the nuances, all is lost in translation. According to the paper plagiarism friends, have a job.

  58. good enough if their poor and/or the wrong race by Weezul · · Score: 1

    I'd imagine this software would be very easy to fool if you wanted to commit the resources too. Or even just keep tweaking your fake document until you produce the desired result from the software.

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    1. Re:good enough if their poor and/or the wrong race by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      Well, sure, if you're some kind of evil genius you can research how the cops figure you out, avoid all that and then hide the fact that you researched it too.

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    2. Re:good enough if their poor and/or the wrong race by Weezul · · Score: 1

      Imagine a Stasi, Egyptian SSIS, FBI, etc. officer who really really wants to lock you up for terrorist talk. He'll first write out what he wants you to say. He'll then look at your writing, make some changes, check the score, and repeat until score says conviction.

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    3. Re:good enough if their poor and/or the wrong race by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I think the Stasi or Egyptian SSIS would just torture you until you wrote a full confession implicating as many people as possible.
      I'm saying nothing about the FBI/CIA/Guantanamo Bay etc for fear of offending the Americans here.

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    4. Re:good enough if their poor and/or the wrong race by Weezul · · Score: 1

      There are not many Americans currently being tortured or indefinitely detained without due process, plus those being so overtly abused are very high profile cases.

      There are however countless cases of law enforcement inventing evidence to harass or detain some random guy they don't like. And this writing analysis software will obviously get used by them.

      In addition, foreign governments and peace organizations routinely get fooled by state secret police.

      For example: Amn Dawla Leaks revealed that Gamal Mubarak and Egypt State Security were behind the Sharm el-Sheikh resort bombings in 2005 that killed 88 people and wounded over 200. It appears that Gamal Mubarak's motivation for the attacks was revenge against the resort owner Hussein Salem who had apparently reduced Mubarak's commission for an Israeli gas deal from 10% to 5%. Egypt had blamed Islamists and Bedouins. Pro-Palestinian conspiracy theorists had blamed Israel.

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  59. It's best when the meaning changes to something by Chapter80 · · Score: 1

    that's funny.

  60. Won't work by PPH · · Score: 1

    I hire someone from 4chan to ghost write all my correspondence....

    ... Y00 n00b!

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  61. Dennis Montgomery? by wiedzmin · · Score: 1

    Dennis Montgomery and his phony secret terrorist message decoding software comes to mind for some reason...

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  62. Wash,rinse,repeat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The simple solution to defeating writing analysis and style matching is wash it though a a couple of different translation engines a couple of times.
      English bomb threat letter > Spanish>Russian> English>MS word spellcheck> French>Italian>English> MS word spellcheck

  63. complete BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what a load of shit.

  64. Google translator by dubsnipe · · Score: 1

    You can use Google Translator to tweak the text:

    1. Copy your anonymous letter
    2. Translate it to Arabic using Google
    3. Translate it to Spanish using Google
    4. Translate it to German using Google
    5. Translate it back to English
    6. Fix the typos
    7. Send.

    Here's an example (I skipped step 6):

    1. A copy of your policy
    2. Translated into Arabic by Google
    3. Spanish translation by Google
    4. Google Translated into German
    5. English translation on back
    6. Fix typo
    7. Send.

  65. Giff de mony tu EEEliot Drisen..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, all I know is, when you find that crazy typewriter you'll have your killer.

  66. Corr Blimey by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    Stone me.

    I'll be affin' to modify me writing style 'en. Yeah dats de ticket. Dat's wot I'm about now, in' I ?

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  67. You can't eat your cake and have it too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is all. ;)

  68. Two things by xenobyte · · Score: 1

    First I have to comment on the linked article in TFA... The 7 way not to get hacked by Anonymous... They forget the first and most basic: Don't be an moron and piss them off. There was no reason Mastercard should do what they did. Whatever Wikileaks had going (legal or otherwise) did not involve Mastercard, fraud, funding or similar, and therefore they had no right to stop processing their payments. Doing so anyway was stupid beyond words and they deserved what came to them. Actually they deserved much worse but DDoS was a start.

    Okay, about anonymity and anonymous emails. Their approach is based on the idea that the structure of writing is unique to the individual writing. That is probably true but it is easy to manipulate. Just use multiple writers (Anonymous does this extensively when they write their announcements) or use Google translate to translate into a language with a different structure and back again, cleaning up the worst mistakes of the mechanical translation. That way different words are used, and the structure is widely different. As you mess with the translation output, the resulting 'identity' is a mixture of the machine and you, and in order not to be profiled on that, switch languages or use two intermediary languages. A third way is the 2011 version of cutting out letters from newspapers/magazines (done to avoid handwriting identification): Use Google and copy-paste sentences from countless sources into your message. That will completely mess up their profiling as well.

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  69. Bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll never work.

    As I've said MANY TIMES before - a simple 300MB hosts file will fix all problems.

    See my post here, here, and here

     
     

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  70. git da solution here peep this shit by doperative · · Score: 1

    "Just cuz youze senen uh email anonyfuckingmously don' mean niggas can't figure out who you be anymo'. uh new technique developed of du researchers at Concordia University in Quebec could be used ta unmask would-be anonymous emailers by sniffing out patterns in they writing style from use o' all lowercase letters ta common typos all ye damn hood ratz" link

  71. This is new technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was sure I've heard them being able to analyse the use of words and grammar to identify the writer of a particular piece of writing.
    Seems like all these researchers have done is came up with the 'genius' idea of applying it to email!

  72. Pod F Tompkast by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    run it thru pretty print or some other formatter before sending it.

    Nah .. run it twice though Google translate

    Nah .. ejecutarlo dos veces a través de Google Translate

    Nah .. twice run through Google Translate

    Paul F Tompkins did this on his first or second podcast: tearfully hilarious.

  73. Something is rotten in Benchmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guys who invented this Anonymous mail fingerprinting method recently ran the entire "Shake-speare's Folio" through their computer farm and the software determined it was actually authored by Edward de Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford. Turth Will Out!

  74. This idea might actually help them by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    It occurs to me that if they have a normalized data set to analyze, their job becomes MUCH easier in some ways.

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  75. Rants vs. LOLs by retroworks · · Score: 1

    I think this is how they caught Theodore Kaczynski, who apparently was posting anonymous comments on my blog. But the one-armed-man writing LOL has proved a clever adversary.

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