"in response to strong customer sentiment" Ie we look foolish that the community was able to fix it sooner than we were. Here you go, we're not that bad afterall, see?
And come Sunday Night/monday morning the cleaning crew will be putting in overtime cleaning up the dead bodies and urine stains from people who were too busy standing at a chalk board to goto the bathroom.
Corporate Freedom of Speech is one of our most precious Freedoms
Now granted I didn't see the site (mirror anyone?) but what about Personal free speech? In this day and age of governemnt where there doesn't seem to be much for freedoms unless you invest a couple hundred thousand in your favorite politicians wallet. Why does DOW get free speech and they can threaten someone for exercising thiers?
Was the company on Thing.net causing them harm, cutting into thier billions of dollars of profits for the year?
Charter did this during the switch over from @home. They installed thier client and said you HAD to install this otherwise you could not get on the internet. It ripped out ALL your network settings and then replaced it with all thier and MS's "personalized" corporate feces.
They also said they did not turn on the software, but after portscanning all of Charter's IP space that Arin said was allocated to them over 13,000 computers had this port listening out of over 25,000+ (4.5 Class C's) were actively listening for connections and would accept a connection if you telnetted to the port. Whereas scanning a non charter IP subnet there were less than 20 that accepted this (I don't have my numbers with me ATM).
The wonderful fellows at Securepipe.com Looked into this and brought it up with the local "watch dog" columnist for one of the local papers who wrote an article about this. Charter was not happy. The guys at Securepipe also brought this up with the local cable commission. Who were semi interested in this issue. About a week later port filtering was in place, including port 641 (what the software runs on).
They said the use was for the ability to remotely help users. Yes this is a nice function to have, but what if this fell into the wrong hands? The Broadjump software is based off of an older version of VNC that has some weak authentication issues. And also dealing with Charter and @home techs I wouldn't trust these people with my computer anyway. I don't trust my mother with my computer.
This was back in Novemeber/December who knows what they could do now.
wi2600.org You can read the threads here, many to list and you can see the research that we did to get into this. I do not know if an electronic copy of the mentioned newspaper article exists but if it does, I will try and get it posted.
I've ran fbsd on a couple thinkpads 390 serives, A21m (which is similar to the laptop in this article) I had no problems with either of them. I even had the DVD player up and running perfectly running ogle. Other people in my dept had equal success in getting everything running.
Might want to check your APM settings in the BIOS. with how to suspsend your lappy.
I went to Toys R Us and Kay Bee the other week and was VERY happy to see the transformers line on the shelves. But I became depressed when all I saw was cheap plastic characters, and they were about half the size of the originals from when I was a kid. But I bought one anyway just for Shits and giggles and still wasn't impressed.
I'll probably be buying the DVD, but I'm not going to buy the toys until they were like when I was a kid. Big (at least the same size they were back in the 80's) and Metal, not all plastic that will blow over in any wind, or has a hard time standing up on carpets because they have no weight to them.
this is all and good with the filesharing idea (I like the news server idea myself) But if it was peer to peer (I'm tired if that's not what your talking about buy me another beer and put me to bed), what would happen the first time Uber l33t black hat Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo inserted some sort of backdoor into the kernel?
The user's system would be comprimised and they wouldn't know it.
But in a case like that, that's where the MD5 checksum would come in handy, which would still have to come from a reliable source (kernel.org) but how many admins out there who were just tossed into the job would actually compare the 2?
It's a great idea but for those MS system admins who are now running a linux box, it's a black hat's oasis of comprised systems. He could just keep a log of who downloaded his modified kernel and start scanning thier IP blocks.
I had a similar experience at a large meat packing plant who has a catchy little tune about thier hot dogs and a car that looks like them as well. Thier processes on corporate side were horrible. Whoever put them in place was using too much crack. I was blantantly told "You're just a kid what do you know." I was the youngest working in my dept by at least 6 years. Other Co-workers would bring it up to management, management wouldn't listen because they felt they were getting thier ideas from me.
Long story short, look for another job. It's not worth being in that shitty environment. They will hold the age thing over your head if they can. Look for another job that can appreciate you for your talents. You'll be a lot happier, not worrying about bosses trying to get you fired. Plus if you are fired you won't sound bad in an interview stating "They fired me because my manager was jealous of me."
Charter has capped connections lower than what they were and raised the price! I am getting considerably less speeds than when I was with @home. Newserver sucks. Ports are filtered and then the big kicker. They tell you, that you have to install thier software to get on thier network. They push like a 4 year old in a candy isle for you to install thier software. Thier software installs a remote control VNC type application on your PC to allow them access to your PC.
Here is a story that was in this week's local newspaper the-rob.com/Charter.html This is legitimate. it's a VNC like software that runs on port 641. Charter says that thier software is not running, this is Bullshit. a scan of thier subnet on a random day 2 weeks ago while we were working on the story showed over 20,000 hosts responding to this port #. this is approximately 4.5/16's. It's a bunch of bullshit. Anyone in the Charter area voice your concern.
I got the Pilot episode laying around here somewhere, It's great. If this episode tonight tonight is anything like the pilot, you will be very entertained. I didn't think that this show would be that good, but after watching the pilot episode, it rules. Tivo and VCR time With Family Guy before it...best hour of television all week....And I may be able to dig up that episode, I have it around here some where
To the best of my understanding, this was AOL wide policy because the AOL coporate trainer, and the other techs I would talk to on the job they would say they were all pushed for low call times. And this was in 97/98 And by that time AOL would have had thier stuff together and know that not all problems could be fixed in this time. Granted you might take approx 200-300 calls a day non stop for your 8 hour shift.
basically you had to quick give them an attempted solution get then off the phone and let them try it on thier own. If it doesn't work, then they will call back...sit on hold forever and get to the next technician. Didn't seem very cost smart, but this was how it was going for years before I got there and will probably be going on for years to come.
Having worked for AOL at one of thier out-sourced call centers. I know 1) they didn't pay very good and 2) personal information was easily accessable to people than one would think..among other things. The pay wasn't very good it was only $8 starting out and if you were super lucky and had your 8 minute call time average, among other things. Hurry up get them off the phone, we don't care if it is fixed, as long as you have an 8 minute call time, you would get a whole $.50 raise.
And personal information was pretty easy to get if you knew the right people. Most people who worked there would look up the information on people in a chat room, or someone they met on the service. Turn over was so high at this place training classes were weekly and they were always full. So you would become friends with someone who you went to training with and became friends with they would normally look up the info. You know..doing something for a friend I had friends that would do it for me when I was there and didn't want to look it up myself. Wanted a new screenname...wanted to see if it was avaliable Just go and look in the database. Hell, some early accounts some got CRIS (the program that gives the member info out) access..some how magically acheiving this "rainman" status as it was called. You always had it beaten into your skull that it is always audited and they are always watching you and what you do a total Big Brother thing. I found this not to be the case except in one instance. A friend looked up her own personal information on her account and so did a co-worker, she was aware of this when he did it, and they both got fried. This was the only time that I can recall for as long as they were in town that AOL had followed the internal policy of checking CRIS access and seeing who was looking at what.
And as far as the Ending of this article I had a similar instance with customers calling up saying that people were stalking each other. They would have thier new screennames and thier home phone #'s and address. And how did they get this information? Internal people. I had people crying to me on the phone about how these people were never leaving them alone and asking why I couldn't help them any. I would have to turn them away to talk to one of these guys who wrote the article. And as far as the internal people what could I do...i had no clue who was doing it. AOL wasn't looking at who was looking at what records. And some Internal people would just hand out the information to thier friends. But this is what happens when you hire anyone off the street. For tech support for a major ISP and doing training like I did, I should have not of had to give a class on how to use the mouse, like I did on many occasions.
Having worked for AOL at one of thier out-sourced call centers. I know 1) they didn't pay very good and 2) personal information was easily accessable to people than one would think..among other things.
The pay wasn't very good it was only $8 starting out and if you were super lucky and had your 8 minute call time average, among other things. Hurry up get them off the phone, we don't care if it is fixed, as long as you have an 8 minute call time, you would get a whole $.50 raise.
And personal information was pretty easy to get if you knew the right people. Most people who worked there would look up the information on people in a chat room, or someone they met on the service. Turn over was so high at this place training classes were weekly and they were always full. So you would become friends with someone who you went to training with and became friends with they would normally look up the info. You know..doing something for a friend I had friends that would do it for me when I was there and didn't want to look it up myself. Wanted a new screenname...wanted to see if it was avaliable Just go and look in the database. Hell, some early accounts some got CRIS (the program that gives the member info out) access..some how magically acheiving this "rainman" status as it was called. You always had it beaten into your skull that it is always audited and they are always watching you and what you do. I found this not to be the case except in one instance. A friend looked up her personal information and so did a co-worker, she was aware of this when he did it, and they both got fried. This was the only time that I can recall for as long as they were in town that AOL had followed the internal policy of checking CRIS access and seeing who was looking at what.
And as far as the Ending of this article I had a similar instance with customers calling up saying that people were stalking each other. They would have thier new screennames and thier home phone #'s and address. And how did they get this information? Internal people. I had people crying to me on the phone about how these people were never leaving them alone and asking why I couldn't help them any. I would have to turn them away to talk to one of these guys who wrote the article. And as far as the internal people what could I do...i had no clue who was doing it. AOL wasn't looking at who was looking at what records. And some Internal people would just hand out the information to thier friends. But this is what happens when you hire anyone off the street. For tech support for a major ISP and doing training like I did, I should have not of had to give a class on how to use the mouse, like I did on many occasions.
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"in response to strong customer sentiment" Ie we look foolish that the community was able to fix it sooner than we were. Here you go, we're not that bad afterall, see?
Let's be friends again.
And come Sunday Night/monday morning the cleaning crew will be putting in overtime cleaning up the dead bodies and urine stains from people who were too busy standing at a chalk board to goto the bathroom.
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Corporate Freedom of Speech is one of our most precious Freedoms
Now granted I didn't see the site (mirror anyone?) but what about Personal free speech? In this day and age of governemnt where there doesn't seem to be much for freedoms unless you invest a couple hundred thousand in your favorite politicians wallet. Why does DOW get free speech and they can threaten someone for exercising thiers?
Was the company on Thing.net causing them harm, cutting into thier billions of dollars of profits for the year?
**sigh** I need to do it before my neighbor does...his kid made honor roll...I need something to brag about. new Kernel > honor roll
They also said they did not turn on the software, but after portscanning all of Charter's IP space that Arin said was allocated to them over 13,000 computers had this port listening out of over 25,000+ (4.5 Class C's) were actively listening for connections and would accept a connection if you telnetted to the port. Whereas scanning a non charter IP subnet there were less than 20 that accepted this (I don't have my numbers with me ATM).
The wonderful fellows at Securepipe.com Looked into this and brought it up with the local "watch dog" columnist for one of the local papers who wrote an article about this. Charter was not happy. The guys at Securepipe also brought this up with the local cable commission. Who were semi interested in this issue. About a week later port filtering was in place, including port 641 (what the software runs on).
They said the use was for the ability to remotely help users. Yes this is a nice function to have, but what if this fell into the wrong hands? The Broadjump software is based off of an older version of VNC that has some weak authentication issues. And also dealing with Charter and @home techs I wouldn't trust these people with my computer anyway. I don't trust my mother with my computer.
This was back in Novemeber/December who knows what they could do now.
wi2600.org You can read the threads here, many to list and you can see the research that we did to get into this. I do not know if an electronic copy of the mentioned newspaper article exists but if it does, I will try and get it posted.
I've ran fbsd on a couple thinkpads 390 serives, A21m (which is similar to the laptop in this article) I had no problems with either of them. I even had the DVD player up and running perfectly running ogle. Other people in my dept had equal success in getting everything running.
Might want to check your APM settings in the BIOS. with how to suspsend your lappy.
I went to Toys R Us and Kay Bee the other week and was VERY happy to see the transformers line on the shelves. But I became depressed when all I saw was cheap plastic characters, and they were about half the size of the originals from when I was a kid. But I bought one anyway just for Shits and giggles and still wasn't impressed.
I'll probably be buying the DVD, but I'm not going to buy the toys until they were like when I was a kid. Big (at least the same size they were back in the 80's) and Metal, not all plastic that will blow over in any wind, or has a hard time standing up on carpets because they have no weight to them.
this is all and good with the filesharing idea (I like the news server idea myself) But if it was peer to peer (I'm tired if that's not what your talking about buy me another beer and put me to bed), what would happen the first time Uber l33t black hat Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo inserted some sort of backdoor into the kernel?
The user's system would be comprimised and they wouldn't know it.
But in a case like that, that's where the MD5 checksum would come in handy, which would still have to come from a reliable source (kernel.org) but how many admins out there who were just tossed into the job would actually compare the 2?
It's a great idea but for those MS system admins who are now running a linux box, it's a black hat's oasis of comprised systems. He could just keep a log of who downloaded his modified kernel and start scanning thier IP blocks.
I had a similar experience at a large meat packing plant who has a catchy little tune about thier hot dogs and a car that looks like them as well. Thier processes on corporate side were horrible. Whoever put them in place was using too much crack. I was blantantly told "You're just a kid what do you know." I was the youngest working in my dept by at least 6 years. Other Co-workers would bring it up to management, management wouldn't listen because they felt they were getting thier ideas from me.
Long story short, look for another job. It's not worth being in that shitty environment. They will hold the age thing over your head if they can. Look for another job that can appreciate you for your talents. You'll be a lot happier, not worrying about bosses trying to get you fired. Plus if you are fired you won't sound bad in an interview stating "They fired me because my manager was jealous of me."
Charter has capped connections lower than what they were and raised the price! I am getting considerably less speeds than when I was with @home. Newserver sucks. Ports are filtered and then the big kicker. They tell you, that you have to install thier software to get on thier network. They push like a 4 year old in a candy isle for you to install thier software. Thier software installs a remote control VNC type application on your PC to allow them access to your PC. Here is a story that was in this week's local newspaper the-rob.com/Charter.html This is legitimate. it's a VNC like software that runs on port 641. Charter says that thier software is not running, this is Bullshit. a scan of thier subnet on a random day 2 weeks ago while we were working on the story showed over 20,000 hosts responding to this port #. this is approximately 4.5 /16's. It's a bunch of bullshit. Anyone in the Charter area voice your concern.
I got the Pilot episode laying around here somewhere, It's great. If this episode tonight tonight is anything like the pilot, you will be very entertained. I didn't think that this show would be that good, but after watching the pilot episode, it rules. Tivo and VCR time With Family Guy before it...best hour of television all week. ...And I may be able to dig up that episode, I have it around here some where
Now that's a lot of porn. Time to hit the newsgroups!!
To the best of my understanding, this was AOL wide policy because the AOL coporate trainer, and the other techs I would talk to on the job they would say they were all pushed for low call times. And this was in 97/98 And by that time AOL would have had thier stuff together and know that not all problems could be fixed in this time. Granted you might take approx 200-300 calls a day non stop for your 8 hour shift.
basically you had to quick give them an attempted solution get then off the phone and let them try it on thier own. If it doesn't work, then they will call back...sit on hold forever and get to the next technician.
Didn't seem very cost smart, but this was how it was going for years before I got there and will probably be going on for years to come.
The pay wasn't very good it was only $8 starting out and if you were super lucky and had your 8 minute call time average, among other things. Hurry up get them off the phone, we don't care if it is fixed, as long as you have an 8 minute call time, you would get a whole $.50 raise.
And personal information was pretty easy to get if you knew the right people. Most people who worked there would look up the information on people in a chat room, or someone they met on the service. Turn over was so high at this place training classes were weekly and they were always full. So you would become friends with someone who you went to training with and became friends with they would normally look up the info. You know..doing something for a friend I had friends that would do it for me when I was there and didn't want to look it up myself. Wanted a new screenname...wanted to see if it was avaliable Just go and look in the database. Hell, some early accounts some got CRIS (the program that gives the member info out) access..some how magically acheiving this "rainman" status as it was called. You always had it beaten into your skull that it is always audited and they are always watching you and what you do a total Big Brother thing. I found this not to be the case except in one instance. A friend looked up her own personal information on her account and so did a co-worker, she was aware of this when he did it, and they both got fried. This was the only time that I can recall for as long as they were in town that AOL had followed the internal policy of checking CRIS access and seeing who was looking at what.
And as far as the Ending of this article I had a similar instance with customers calling up saying that people were stalking each other. They would have thier new screennames and thier home phone #'s and address. And how did they get this information? Internal people. I had people crying to me on the phone about how these people were never leaving them alone and asking why I couldn't help them any. I would have to turn them away to talk to one of these guys who wrote the article. And as far as the internal people what could I do...i had no clue who was doing it. AOL wasn't looking at who was looking at what records. And some Internal people would just hand out the information to thier friends. But this is what happens when you hire anyone off the street. For tech support for a major ISP and doing training like I did, I should have not of had to give a class on how to use the mouse, like I did on many occasions.
Having worked for AOL at one of thier out-sourced call centers. I know 1) they didn't pay very good and 2) personal information was easily accessable to people than one would think..among other things. The pay wasn't very good it was only $8 starting out and if you were super lucky and had your 8 minute call time average, among other things. Hurry up get them off the phone, we don't care if it is fixed, as long as you have an 8 minute call time, you would get a whole $.50 raise. And personal information was pretty easy to get if you knew the right people. Most people who worked there would look up the information on people in a chat room, or someone they met on the service. Turn over was so high at this place training classes were weekly and they were always full. So you would become friends with someone who you went to training with and became friends with they would normally look up the info. You know..doing something for a friend I had friends that would do it for me when I was there and didn't want to look it up myself. Wanted a new screenname...wanted to see if it was avaliable Just go and look in the database. Hell, some early accounts some got CRIS (the program that gives the member info out) access..some how magically acheiving this "rainman" status as it was called. You always had it beaten into your skull that it is always audited and they are always watching you and what you do. I found this not to be the case except in one instance. A friend looked up her personal information and so did a co-worker, she was aware of this when he did it, and they both got fried. This was the only time that I can recall for as long as they were in town that AOL had followed the internal policy of checking CRIS access and seeing who was looking at what. And as far as the Ending of this article I had a similar instance with customers calling up saying that people were stalking each other. They would have thier new screennames and thier home phone #'s and address. And how did they get this information? Internal people. I had people crying to me on the phone about how these people were never leaving them alone and asking why I couldn't help them any. I would have to turn them away to talk to one of these guys who wrote the article. And as far as the internal people what could I do...i had no clue who was doing it. AOL wasn't looking at who was looking at what records. And some Internal people would just hand out the information to thier friends. But this is what happens when you hire anyone off the street. For tech support for a major ISP and doing training like I did, I should have not of had to give a class on how to use the mouse, like I did on many occasions.