Defrag a Counsel?
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One thing that's always bugged me about a Hard Drvie on a game system. What happens when you need to defrag the Hard Drive? They're using the thing as a swap disk, so it's gotta be ripping data on and off the thing often. I wonder how long before the HD fails and you lose all your game saves? No doubt there will be a patented Microsoft replacement drive.
I like how racism, hatred and pornography are listed after making disparaging remarks about Microsoft. Good to know they've got their priorities straight.
What makes you think Sony is letting Microsoft win without a fight. They got some killer games coming out in November. Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy X, Devil May Cry, and a bunch of others. Not to mention their internet adapter and hard drive will be available.
I am still woefully crying due to DOA3 on Xbox and still hold firm to my belief that Tecmo will see the light and make a PS2 version.
I kinda view FMV scenes as a sort of "pay off." You worked really hard to get past this quest, now sit back and enjoy a fully rendered scene of your discovery or reward.
I will admit they over do it at times. Where as FF7 used a decent amount of FMV (which helped flesh out the envirnoment and reward the player), FF8 used it to the point of Square showing off it's CG abilities. There was definately a case of "can I play too?" with that one. They redeemed themselves nicely with FF9, which is a really enjoyable game.
Here's hoping FF10 doesn't over do it.
FF11 sounds interesting, since it's an online experience. It'll be more difficult to put cut scenes into that I would think. --
Re:This doesn't fit the Sony (console) business mo
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PS2 As PC
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You forget that Sony and AOL Time/Warner own a great deal of movie and music property that they could give PS2 users access to... at a cost, of course. Which is probably why Sony is so hot to trot about killing stuff like Napster.
Screw 'em all and get a Gamecube. If all you want is games, that's all you'll get. --
Re:I doubt this would happen.
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They mentioned that you could go through your own ISP. I'm sure, however, there will be a push to get you to use AOL. --
Where are you getting that Hard Drive price? They haven't annouced a price as far as I knew. Also, HD will be internal. Mose and Keyboard? I got an old iMac Keyboard and Mouse that work just fine. And if owning an iMac has taught me anything(and it hasn't), it's that floppies truly are not necessary. --
The idea of running MAME on the PS2 and playing Crazy Kong from the comfort of couch just puts me in a spin.
Sure you'll need the HD and Network adapters, which'll cost you. But system price is supposed to drop to $200 sometime in the fall, so it's not that bad. And I challenge you to find a PC for $500 that has similar graphics performance.
I read an article awhile back that said Square apologized to it's investors more than doubling their $70million dollar budget. Square also went on to say that they would never make another film.
Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I really hate to have them say they'll never make another film before seeing the fruits of their labor. Hopefully legions of fans will show them the light. --
Long ago we needed a separation between Church and State. Now we need a separation between Parent and State. Parents need to take some responsiblitity in raising their children and stop blaming every form of media that doesn't fit into their package of morals. --
I also was going off my personal setting. I have two oafish roomates. Between the three of we have 8 computers all routed through a DSL (I can't wait to route my PS2). We literally have computers everywhere and most of them are on 24-7. For me it would be easier to pause a game and turn to the computer to do something. But that's just my setup. It'll all depend on the individual's personal setup.
Of course, this is all based on what I assume the PS2 online experience is going to be like. Right now, only Sony knows exactly what it's going to be like. What kind of interface. How much access to system resources. How involved will the operating system be. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe people really will use it as a computer. Who knows? --
To respond, A - This is true. I've done this. I also struggled to find a suitable position to use a keyboard and mouse from the couch. I just don't believe people are going to use this a primary means of "surfing" the net.
B - Quick means of looking up info? Possibly. I'm not sure how quickly you'll be able to leave the game and fire up a web browser. It's not like a PC where you can have multiple apps running. It might just be easier to pause the game walk over to your PC and find it that way. Which is really true if you have broadband access.
C - That's probably true too. I don't use cheat devices, so I don't how often you would need to use it. A good point nonetheless.
D - I wonder how big PS2 demos would be. This is also a good idea. I just wonder if it's feasible to download large game files. On a side note, I wonder if individuals will be able to their own games to distributed online. That would be cool.
All in all. I wouldn't worry about the web browser. I don't think you'll need it that much. This thing isn't going to replace your PC. Maybe it'll bring out some interesting innovations (I see a wireless keyboard and trackball made to fit your lap), but it's gotta long way to go surpass the PC workhorse.
Also, Netscape sucks. Mozilla rules. Maybe they'll use a more recent version of Mozilla to build the PS2 Netscape. --
In my opinion, success of a GAME system will have nothing to do with the web browser. Who wants navigate the web with a PlayStation controller. I think most of us would rather have a keyboard and mouse to do that. Using these on a couch can be somewhat difficult. What'll sell these systems is games like Tony Hawk 3 online. Game counsels fit the bill of comfortable game playing in the living room. Computers will always be used to get the real work done. Well, that and StarCraft. That would be pretty tough to play with game controller. --
Which is exactly why I, as a parent, am planning to give my money to Nintendo this Christmas. My kids are right square in the middle of Nintendo's target demographic.
I hope your kids don't have internet access. Otherwise, you may have ruined Christmas.:) --
I always thought this was a myth... at least in the web development industry. I work 35 hours week. At work at 8:30AM, hour lunch (sometimes more) leave at 5:00PM. Of course, clients come up with crazy requests from time to time that keep me at work till 10:00PM. But that's not often. --
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One thing that's always bugged me about a Hard Drvie on a game system. What happens when you need to defrag the Hard Drive? They're using the thing as a swap disk, so it's gotta be ripping data on and off the thing often. I wonder how long before the HD fails and you lose all your game saves? No doubt there will be a patented Microsoft replacement drive.
Since PC stands for Personal Computer, a Mac still qualifies as a PC.
Playstation 2 has some great titles like Gran Turismo 3, etc. but has no native ethernet or storage.
True. Nothing native. But a simple USB to Ethernet adpater will get you hooked up rather easily. Tonk Hawk Pro Skater 3 online is pretty bitchin'.
GameCube will have some fun titles to play. But not enough of them jump out at me to make me want to drop bucks on it just yet.
I'll probably end up with an Xbox almost completely for DOA3 and a little bit for Halo. After that, it's a web server.
And while DOA3 looks to be one the coolest games ever, nothing will keep me from Metal Gear Solid 2!
No. That's meant as a joke.
It'll also be in MPEG.
Anything is possible. Nobody thought the G4 would ship as early as it did. Of course, looking back at the situation, maybe they should've waited.
I like how racism, hatred and pornography are listed after making disparaging remarks about Microsoft. Good to know they've got their priorities straight.
What makes you think Sony is letting Microsoft win without a fight. They got some killer games coming out in November. Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy X, Devil May Cry, and a bunch of others. Not to mention their internet adapter and hard drive will be available.
I am still woefully crying due to DOA3 on Xbox and still hold firm to my belief that Tecmo will see the light and make a PS2 version.
Cell wasn't immortal. Didn't Gohan take him out?
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I kinda view FMV scenes as a sort of "pay off." You worked really hard to get past this quest, now sit back and enjoy a fully rendered scene of your discovery or reward.
I will admit they over do it at times. Where as FF7 used a decent amount of FMV (which helped flesh out the envirnoment and reward the player), FF8 used it to the point of Square showing off it's CG abilities. There was definately a case of "can I play too?" with that one. They redeemed themselves nicely with FF9, which is a really enjoyable game.
Here's hoping FF10 doesn't over do it.
FF11 sounds interesting, since it's an online experience. It'll be more difficult to put cut scenes into that I would think.
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Apple has an exclusive license with Sorenson. But it still belongs to Sorenson. It's still their work.
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Sorenson is seperate company from Apple. Apple licensed the Sorenson codec for QuickTime.
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Running MAME from the couch.
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You forget that Sony and AOL Time/Warner own a great deal of movie and music property that they could give PS2 users access to... at a cost, of course. Which is probably why Sony is so hot to trot about killing stuff like Napster.
Screw 'em all and get a Gamecube. If all you want is games, that's all you'll get.
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They mentioned that you could go through your own ISP. I'm sure, however, there will be a push to get you to use AOL.
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Where are you getting that Hard Drive price? They haven't annouced a price as far as I knew. Also, HD will be internal. Mose and Keyboard? I got an old iMac Keyboard and Mouse that work just fine. And if owning an iMac has taught me anything(and it hasn't), it's that floppies truly are not necessary.
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I have only one thing to say...
"MAME"
The idea of running MAME on the PS2 and playing Crazy Kong from the comfort of couch just puts me in a spin.
Sure you'll need the HD and Network adapters, which'll cost you. But system price is supposed to drop to $200 sometime in the fall, so it's not that bad. And I challenge you to find a PC for $500 that has similar graphics performance.
Besides, DOA2 still rocks the house!
:)
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I heard they spun off their effects department. They will be available for independent hire. Or, at least, that's what the article said
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I read an article awhile back that said Square apologized to it's investors more than doubling their $70million dollar budget. Square also went on to say that they would never make another film.
Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I really hate to have them say they'll never make another film before seeing the fruits of their labor. Hopefully legions of fans will show them the light.
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Long ago we needed a separation between Church and State. Now we need a separation between Parent and State. Parents need to take some responsiblitity in raising their children and stop blaming every form of media that doesn't fit into their package of morals.
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I also was going off my personal setting. I have two oafish roomates. Between the three of we have 8 computers all routed through a DSL (I can't wait to route my PS2). We literally have computers everywhere and most of them are on 24-7. For me it would be easier to pause a game and turn to the computer to do something. But that's just my setup. It'll all depend on the individual's personal setup.
Of course, this is all based on what I assume the PS2 online experience is going to be like. Right now, only Sony knows exactly what it's going to be like. What kind of interface. How much access to system resources. How involved will the operating system be. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe people really will use it as a computer. Who knows?
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To respond,
A - This is true. I've done this. I also struggled to find a suitable position to use a keyboard and mouse from the couch. I just don't believe people are going to use this a primary means of "surfing" the net.
B - Quick means of looking up info? Possibly. I'm not sure how quickly you'll be able to leave the game and fire up a web browser. It's not like a PC where you can have multiple apps running. It might just be easier to pause the game walk over to your PC and find it that way. Which is really true if you have broadband access.
C - That's probably true too. I don't use cheat devices, so I don't how often you would need to use it. A good point nonetheless.
D - I wonder how big PS2 demos would be. This is also a good idea. I just wonder if it's feasible to download large game files. On a side note, I wonder if individuals will be able to their own games to distributed online. That would be cool.
All in all. I wouldn't worry about the web browser. I don't think you'll need it that much. This thing isn't going to replace your PC. Maybe it'll bring out some interesting innovations (I see a wireless keyboard and trackball made to fit your lap), but it's gotta long way to go surpass the PC workhorse.
Also, Netscape sucks. Mozilla rules. Maybe they'll use a more recent version of Mozilla to build the PS2 Netscape.
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In my opinion, success of a GAME system will have nothing to do with the web browser. Who wants navigate the web with a PlayStation controller. I think most of us would rather have a keyboard and mouse to do that. Using these on a couch can be somewhat difficult. What'll sell these systems is games like Tony Hawk 3 online. Game counsels fit the bill of comfortable game playing in the living room. Computers will always be used to get the real work done. Well, that and StarCraft. That would be pretty tough to play with game controller.
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Which is exactly why I, as a parent, am planning to give my money to Nintendo this Christmas. My kids are right square in the middle of Nintendo's target demographic.
:)
I hope your kids don't have internet access. Otherwise, you may have ruined Christmas.
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I always thought this was a myth... at least in the web development industry. I work 35 hours week. At work at 8:30AM, hour lunch (sometimes more) leave at 5:00PM. Of course, clients come up with crazy requests from time to time that keep me at work till 10:00PM. But that's not often.
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