Keep the money. Put it in long-term bonds. Forget about it.
Some day you will be glad you had it.
Re:The part I do not understand...
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Careful with he word "property".
Others get the right to distribute, but if you wrote half the code, published it under GPL, then I took your code, added an equal amount of my own, and released the result under GPL... You do not own my work, and I do not own yours. I can work within the terms of only the GPL as long as I include your code.
You can take your code and license it however you want. You cannot take mine.
The "project" itself, presumably meaning the code, cannot "own" property, it is not a legal entity, it is a body of code under a license.
People are free to take your work under GPL, modify it, and sell it... they can do whatever they want with it.. as long as it is within the terms of the license.
As for claiming it's theirs... that might get tricky. The GPL doesn't forbid it, but it is fraudulent.
NDAs and whatno make sense when you are talking about "trade secrets".
They do not make sense when applied to copyright law. The Unix SYSV code has been openly published on a wide scale for a LONG time... none of what was published can be called a secret. That does not mean there is no copyright protection, of course. You can't steal my code just because I published it.. but I can't go screamng that it's a secret and everyone has to sign an NDA so I can prove you stole my code. I can, of course, show my evidence.
If IBM snuck code they did not have the rights to into Linux, they will be removed. The entire linux community is not guilty, IBM would be.
All SCOs other claims are just to confuse the world... first it's a trade secret, then it's about copyrights, then it's about contract violation by IBM, then it's about the GPL being unconstitutional... then it's about WMD.....
Generic portable harddrives are much larger and clunkier than an ipod. Even as a portable drive, an iPod is sleeker and easier to pack around and use than anything else.
Expensive? Yes... Expensive compaed to the LOTR budget? No way.
Tried it a week ago, and I did have to separtely download and build the module utilities.... the versions in unstable were not current enough at the time.
Perhaps that changed in the last week.
Either way it's not a big deal... people should give 2.6 a try, it's not that scary.
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This is a common tactic with just about any organization...
I recall my father (who owned a supermarket) stating tha one of his goals, albeit one that he never achieved, was to change the union agreement so that he was not responsible for deducting union dues from his employees cheques and paying the union.
If all those employees go a bill for $30 every month instead of having $15 taken off each paycheque, you can bet a LOT more would question what they were getting out of the union.
When you roll out software, you choose the platform for that software. If something else was better suited to it, you would use it.
To argue that OS X isn't good enough because "it doesn't have ldd" and a production server needs it.. well, you should not be debugging library conflicts on a production server in the first place, you test that before rollout, and if something needs to be installed you do it.
Though you may be lucky enough to have a set of servers that don't need any post-install configuration, that's not the norm... generally you always have to do some level of work to every server in the real world to prepare it for it's task.
You won't find ANY windows debugging tools on windows by default, you need the developer tools... so how are you supposed to fix things? Same argument.
None of what you have argued changes the fact. at this point, a mac is less of a security risk than windows.
Also, as a *very* experienced unix user, I can tell you, OS X is not so different.. no more than a bunch of other unixes differ from each other. Perhaps you hit some snag that really pissed you off.. but overall, it's as unix as it can be.
Also, the fact that it's not X windows, this is not important whatsoever. The X server apple provides, which turns on with one click, is most definately an X server, and a fast one at that (apple added native acceleration to their underlying graphics libraries).
As for "shared library compatability problems".. no, I don't have any.. and I use the same software I've been using on linux and bsd....
Okay... but it seems to me that appealing a decision is not the same thing as being charged again. The decision is not final until all appeals are exhausted, no?
I thought in the US, either side could appeal (with the appropriate grounds) the same case to a higher court. I thought Double Jeapordy meant that, if you charged with acrime, acquitted, and there are no appeals in the allotted time, THEN you can't be charged with the same crime again.
However, as Apple says, 20% of the market is people spending $250+ for a 512MB flash player.. and that's the market apple is after. They are not trying to sell this to those who otherwise would buy a normal iPod... because we sould say "50 bucks more for 10 times the space, that's a no brainer"
One thing you left out.. he was also a Syrian citizen.
I am as outraged as the next guy, probably more actually... what was done was 100% totally wrong.
Your scenario would be more accurate if the person was someone who lives in America, but has joint American/Iranian citizenship being deported to Iran, despite not having lived there for 30 years.
Think of the information sites like this collect, and think doubly before paticipating.
They get to know who signed up who, TONS of personal details that many people reveal, age, approximate locations, who they know, how they are all connected... you didn't think this was done out of pure goodwill, did you?
OF course they won't destroy the data.. it's too valuable.
I can't believe how many people blindly just give it all up to some site just becuase it's fun.
Google is a great search engine, and has some great tools..but think for a minute about how much information they are amassing.
1 - The US Government does not grant titles of Nobility. It means they can't invent a "Noble" class and start knighting people, etc. This goes along wiht "All people are equal" and stuff.
2 - It says that, more or less, someone holding a public office or public trust cannot accept entitlements, gifts, knighthoods, etc, from a foreign monarch or government, without permission of congress.
So basically it means if Britain tries to knight Arnie, he has to refuse, or get permission from congress first.
Pretty extremist you are.. we are talking about DNS here.... not hospitals or contract law.
By the way, if you mismanage a server at the hospital and it kills someone, the hospital is held accountable, whether they choose to make you be is up to them.
Holding people responsible is a tool, not a solution. Making that server your responsbility might make you pay more attention, or taek your job more seriously, but it won't fix design flaws or make you less stupid.
No, I do not think nobody should be responsible for anything... I just think that the idea that we have to have someone fingered in this case is pointless.
I'm also absolutely not against holding people responsible for their actions, or lack of action, but holding you responsible won't change the fact that you are incompetent.
Let's take the hypothetical situation of a mythical hospital server that, if improperly managed, will kill someone. Let's say you mismanage it, being drunk on the job and whatnot.
Now, having you held responsible doesn't help me, who's brother just died because of your mistake, and I probably won't be going after you, I will be going after the hospital, in who's care my brother was in getting his broken toe fixed. Whether or not the hospital's problem is shitty staff or bad engineering is their problem, not mine... just as if some nurse had given him the wrong injection.
The point is, playing the blame game for it's own sake doesn't help anything. Are we worried about the integrity of those running the root servers? Have they done a bad job? Do we feel that putting them all under the yoke of verisign or some other organisation will INCREASE their integrity?
It's absurd because there is no generic "64 bit" or "32 bit" binary... whether they are faster or not is up to individual architectures and implementations.
On a sparc capable of running 64 and 32 bit binaries, sure, it's a valid test, but irrelevant anywhere else. ON an Atlhon-64, the opposite might be true, or they might be the same.
IT shoudl be titled "ARe sparc 64 bit binaries under solaris faster or slower than equivalent 32 bit binaries?"
as you certainly can build agreat PVR box from linux if you do five or ten minutes of actual research.
That said though.. a lot of comments say "Why not just buy a TiVO?"
Well, you are right. IF the TiVO features are what you want, and you live in the US, then by all meants,get tivo...
Many of us don't live there, and tivo is basically useless...
plus with a mythtv box or something, you can do a lot more than just Tv recording... add in DVD/MP3 ripping, burning, MAME/Snes emulators / weather / RSS news watcher / picure browsing / etc, plus whatever else you think of (home security monitoring, multiple capture cards, etc..._)
IT is completly "over the power grid".
The "fiber optic backbone" means their network center.
The line says "From wireless, converted to be transmitted OVER THE GRID to the company's (PUC) fiber backbone to the internet."
It is *precisely* a test of data over power lines.
Keep the money. Put it in long-term bonds.
Forget about it.
Some day you will be glad you had it.
Careful with he word "property".
Others get the right to distribute, but if you wrote half the code, published it under GPL, then I took your code, added an equal amount of my own, and released the result under GPL... You do not own my work, and I do not own yours. I can work within the terms of only the GPL as long as I include your code.
You can take your code and license it however you want. You cannot take mine.
The "project" itself, presumably meaning the code, cannot "own" property, it is not a legal entity, it is a body of code under a license.
People are free to take your work under GPL, modify it, and sell it... they can do whatever they want with it.. as long as it is within the terms of the license.
As for claiming it's theirs... that might get tricky. The GPL doesn't forbid it, but it is fraudulent.
NDAs and whatno make sense when you are talking about "trade secrets".
They do not make sense when applied to copyright law. The Unix SYSV code has been openly published on a wide scale for a LONG time... none of what was published can be called a secret. That does not mean there is no copyright protection, of course. You can't steal my code just because I published it.. but I can't go screamng that it's a secret and everyone has to sign an NDA so I can prove you stole my code. I can, of course, show my evidence.
If IBM snuck code they did not have the rights to into Linux, they will be removed. The entire linux community is not guilty, IBM would be.
All SCOs other claims are just to confuse the world... first it's a trade secret, then it's about copyrights, then it's about contract violation by IBM, then it's about the GPL being unconstitutional... then it's about WMD.....
Generic portable harddrives are much larger and clunkier than an ipod. Even as a portable drive, an iPod is sleeker and easier to pack around and use than anything else.
Expensive? Yes... Expensive compaed to the LOTR budget? No way.
Tried it a week ago, and I did have to separtely download and build the module utilities.... the versions in unstable were not current enough at the time.
Perhaps that changed in the last week.
Either way it's not a big deal... people should give 2.6 a try, it's not that scary.
You watch WAY too much TV.
Do you think that developing nations all use ancient equipment? That's not exactly true.
Often older equipment is more expensive and harder to get, and harder to get support on.
Developing countries have computers... it's the software licenses that dwarf the cost of those computers that hurts.
This is a common tactic with just about any organization...
I recall my father (who owned a supermarket) stating tha one of his goals, albeit one that he never achieved, was to change the union agreement so that he was not responsible for deducting union dues from his employees cheques and paying the union.
If all those employees go a bill for $30 every month instead of having $15 taken off each paycheque, you can bet a LOT more would question what they were getting out of the union.
Okay this is getting silly.
When you roll out software, you choose the platform for that software. If something else was better suited to it, you would use it.
To argue that OS X isn't good enough because "it doesn't have ldd" and a production server needs it.. well, you should not be debugging library conflicts on a production server in the first place, you test that before rollout, and if something needs to be installed you do it.
Though you may be lucky enough to have a set of servers that don't need any post-install configuration, that's not the norm... generally you always have to do some level of work to every server in the real world to prepare it for it's task.
You won't find ANY windows debugging tools on windows by default, you need the developer tools... so how are you supposed to fix things? Same argument.
But it's a mac.. it's highly unlikely clicking on any icon will fail.
A customer never has to really do anything, and someone who runs 15 different boxes should have no trouble at all understanding darwin.
None of what you have argued changes the fact. at this point, a mac is less of a security risk than windows.
Also, as a *very* experienced unix user, I can tell you, OS X is not so different.. no more than a bunch of other unixes differ from each other. Perhaps you hit some snag that really pissed you off.. but overall, it's as unix as it can be.
Also, the fact that it's not X windows, this is not important whatsoever. The X server apple provides, which turns on with one click, is most definately an X server, and a fast one at that (apple added native acceleration to their underlying graphics libraries).
As for "shared library compatability problems".. no, I don't have any.. and I use the same software I've been using on linux and bsd....
The NVIDIA drivers worked fine in 2.6 before with a simple patch (changing the location of an include or two).
This barely even requied work from nvidia... just an ifdef or two.
I was using nvidia's drivers on 2.6 weeks ago.
Why feel guilty?
As long as my mac continues to be reliable, I will keep using it.
Should it cease to be reliable, I will change.
Okay... but it seems to me that appealing a decision is not the same thing as being charged again. The decision is not final until all appeals are exhausted, no?
I thought in the US, either side could appeal (with the appropriate grounds) the same case to a higher court.
I thought Double Jeapordy meant that, if you charged with acrime, acquitted, and there are no appeals in the allotted time, THEN you can't be charged with the same crime again.
Right... I would also agree.
However, as Apple says, 20% of the market is people spending $250+ for a 512MB flash player.. and that's the market apple is after. They are not trying to sell this to those who otherwise would buy a normal iPod... because we sould say "50 bucks more for 10 times the space, that's a no brainer"
One thing you left out.. he was also a Syrian citizen.
I am as outraged as the next guy, probably more actually... what was done was 100% totally wrong.
Your scenario would be more accurate if the person was someone who lives in America, but has joint American/Iranian citizenship being deported to Iran, despite not having lived there for 30 years.
Think of the information sites like this collect, and think doubly before paticipating.
They get to know who signed up who, TONS of personal details that many people reveal, age, approximate locations, who they know, how they are all connected... you didn't think this was done out of pure goodwill, did you?
OF course they won't destroy the data.. it's too valuable.
I can't believe how many people blindly just give it all up to some site just becuase it's fun.
Google is a great search engine, and has some great tools..but think for a minute about how much information they are amassing.
That says two things:
1 - The US Government does not grant titles of Nobility. It means they can't invent a "Noble" class and start knighting people, etc. This goes along wiht "All people are equal" and stuff.
2 - It says that, more or less, someone holding a public office or public trust cannot accept entitlements, gifts, knighthoods, etc, from a foreign monarch or government, without permission of congress.
So basically it means if Britain tries to knight Arnie, he has to refuse, or get permission from congress first.
Not the atmosphere.... that does little.
IT's the earth's magnetic field that saves us from turning into a giant bbq...
Pretty extremist you are.. we are talking about DNS here.... not hospitals or contract law.
By the way, if you mismanage a server at the hospital and it kills someone, the hospital is held accountable, whether they choose to make you be is up to them.
Holding people responsible is a tool, not a solution. Making that server your responsbility might make you pay more attention, or taek your job more seriously, but it won't fix design flaws or make you less stupid.
No, I do not think nobody should be responsible for anything... I just think that the idea that we have to have someone fingered in this case is pointless.
I'm also absolutely not against holding people responsible for their actions, or lack of action, but holding you responsible won't change the fact that you are incompetent.
Let's take the hypothetical situation of a mythical hospital server that, if improperly managed, will kill someone. Let's say you mismanage it, being drunk on the job and whatnot.
Now, having you held responsible doesn't help me, who's brother just died because of your mistake, and I probably won't be going after you, I will be going after the hospital, in who's care my brother was in getting his broken toe fixed. Whether or not the hospital's problem is shitty staff or bad engineering is their problem, not mine... just as if some nurse had given him the wrong injection.
The point is, playing the blame game for it's own sake doesn't help anything. Are we worried about the integrity of those running the root servers? Have they done a bad job? Do we feel that putting them all under the yoke of verisign or some other organisation will INCREASE their integrity?
It's absurd because there is no generic "64 bit" or "32 bit" binary... whether they are faster or not is up to individual architectures and implementations.
On a sparc capable of running 64 and 32 bit binaries, sure, it's a valid test, but irrelevant anywhere else. ON an Atlhon-64, the opposite might be true, or they might be the same.
IT shoudl be titled "ARe sparc 64 bit binaries under solaris faster or slower than equivalent 32 bit binaries?"
as you certainly can build agreat PVR box from linux if you do five or ten minutes of actual research.
That said though.. a lot of comments say "Why not just buy a TiVO?"
Well, you are right. IF the TiVO features are what you want, and you live in the US, then by all meants,get tivo...
Many of us don't live there, and tivo is basically useless...
plus with a mythtv box or something, you can do a lot more than just Tv recording... add in DVD/MP3 ripping, burning, MAME/Snes emulators / weather / RSS news watcher / picure browsing / etc, plus whatever else you think of (home security monitoring, multiple capture cards, etc..._)
IT's a project, and fun.