"ElcomSoft was culpable because it sold the program for $99 in the United States through an online payment service based in Issaquah, Wash., and with a Web site hosted in Chicago."
...Don't host in the states. Rackspace Europe? Verio AsiaPacific?
why not use some sort of load balancing to redistribute/redirect the load to other mirrors around US?
Because it would be killer for bandwidth. A better solution would be to put smart (ish) selection of mirrors into the client. Unforunately it's written in Modula-3, so you won't see me hacking around with it in the near future.
I'm not so sure this is actually the case y'know. Good stereotype, certainly, and while geekdom certainly has its' fair share at either end of the bellcurve I do think there are a fair number still somewhere in the middle.
There are also quite a lot of sporty (mostly mountain bikes and snowboards) geeks who break the stereotype.
I dropped two points, but that was as a result of starting a DB flamefest and getting -1 Offtopic and -1 Troll. Like you're about to. And me again in all probability.
But, like the man says, not that I give a shit.
Pretty shite interview BTW. I take it the submissions queue got toasted along with a load of other stuff then?
40?? 40 is nothing. I'm running 60-70 most of the time in 1024x and am constantly wondering if I'd be better off staying in 800x where it the video card rarely drops below 100fps and the monitor refreshes at 100Hz. 40 is too slow, by a long way.
Ohhhhhh, sorry, just re-read the post. This was a generic troll. Is there a troll.pl knocking around I didn't know of?
Dave
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Oh good, it seems I'm not alone. B&W seemed to be a collection of pet projects, not a game.
There was a post over to a MySQL vs Postgres flame fest once (on phpbuilder, iirc) that stated that while MySQL was prone to falling over every now and then, it had never lost any data. It guess that's the end of that one then.
Does it look like RedHat have made the right choice with postgres then?
Hey man, shame you've not got your email address up - chances are you won't see this. Oh well, let's try anyway.
I'm just not that convinced that spoofing ip headers is necessary any more for a good DoS attack. Certainly, when hiding one's ip was necessary, you needed to do it. Likewise when vanilla SYN floods worked, spoofing to a non-routable address just made it all the better. But neither of these apply in this day and age - the ready availability of an army of trojan'd windows boxes means the attackers IP is likely to never be discovered, and SYN cookie techniques mean that SYN floods are mostly history.
With regards to the scripting COM objects thing - yeah, making a well formed header is hardly rocket science. However, placing a request, registering as a user and accepting the cookie from the server is a markedly difficult task that would be made easier by scriptable libraries. Remember that the art of a good DoS is to get the server to dedicate as many resources as possible to serving something that is not a real client. Using a scripted real client to do it seems like a great idea to me.
Man, you could start opening https sessions, that'd slow it down REAL fast.
But thanks, well informed comment on/., I was starting to wonder if it was a dying breed.
Look, raw sockets in windows are not the end of the world: they're available already, open source (http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/winpcap/), and you can run them as a non-privaleged user. In as much as MS have a concept of privaleged users.
Even if they weren't, there are SO MANY possible security exploits you can run using a small army of 0wn3d windows boxes. Including (but not limited to) just packeting the crap out of Steve "Bloody" Gibson's webserver. For instance, has anyone considered using something to script the IE network libraries (COM objects, I would imagine) in the background and launch a 'many millions of perfectly valid requests, complete with cookies and everything' attack?
How would you defend against that?
This whole raw socket thing has been blown out of all proportion. Can we please stop fretting and find a way of PREVENTING these big attacks from being spread. Or possible. Or something.
Microsoft that is. A few copies of Win98 here and there don't really show up, particularly when it's the/. population were talking about. What they're interested in is the corporate desktop, OEM deals and servers.
Kick 'em in the servers, that's what I say.
My 2c: I've bought a couple of FreeBSD distributions, and got the original Win95 upgrade when it came out. Hey, I was young, I was experimenting, I didn't inhale.
A transistor? A transistor? You LUCKY BASTARD. When I were a lad we had to switch currents with our teeth, and only when a wire marked "gate", which was shoved up me arse, went live with over a kilowatt.
took up half your backyard.
Half your back yard? You LUCKY LUCKY BASTARD. Ours took over t'town, and town next door. And it were so heavy that people making tide tables used to have to come to me mothers' door and ask where t'computer would be on such and such a date.
Brooks, Fred, The Mythical Man-Month -- Because it woke the world up to how to build big systems.
On a similar note you should have "Rapid Development" by Steve McConnell. This is a great book on how to apply the lessons learned by Fred Brooks in the real world.
45 knots on a sailing hydrofoil with, like, cabin and somewhere to make a cup of coffee? I think not. Without going into details just accept that I went to University *just* to study this problem (I came to computing through writing fluid dynamics code) and you can take it from me that it won't be happening.
Thing 2: Current speed sailing record is 46.52 knots, held by Yellow Pages Endeavour (http://www.mko.freesurf.fr/innovoile/YPE_e.html), so 45 knots won't even get them the speed record. YPE claims a top speed of 54 knots, and to be honest I believe them. Even if they are Australians.
We had a cable modem service called Chello, run by a Dutch ISP apparently. They were dumb enough to offer unlimited downloads and consequently a few people attempted to make copies of the entire Internet. Well, perhaps just the pr0n and warez, but you get the picture.
So, their business model which was based (as best I can tell) on a T1 and a colossal cache was quickly reduced to rubble and download speeds allegedly dropped to the 56K kind of arena. Lots of pissed off people = no more chello.
From your link: "A flaw in this explanation is that there is no known physical principle to explain how the starting vortex can cause wing circulation"... what, with the exception of conservation of angular momentum, for example? Exactly the same physical effect that is responsible for the opposite-identical vortices that come from the tips of the wings (because angular momentum is conserved in three dimensions).
Sorry guys, it's to do with rotation over the wing sections. How do we think a spinning cricket/golf ball generates lift? The 'blowing air downwards' theory is all well and good, but in practice the air gets blown downwards as a by-product of what's really going on.
If you're really up for it, "Aero-Hydrodynamics of sailing" by C.A.Marchaj is the book to get.
From the point of view of tradmarking windows, I believe it is "Microsoft Windows" and various varieties but not the word "windows" itself that is tradmarked.
And the flying window logo thingy. Jeez, strap a penguin on that and you'd be in trouble.
When notifying the benchmark author about this issue, he simply replied that he expects most users NOT to checkout any possible optimizations.
To a certain extent I agree with him. I suspect there's a lot of php code that will be run on 'off the shelf' Cobalts etc. where rebuilding the interpreter is not really a practical proposition.
Besides, you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, and that's the simplest.
Too many languages? Yeah, I think so. I would've been happier with just C, C++, Java and possibly Python myself. Must be some mileage in comparing entire web application platforms too:
Homepage favourite: Apache+PHP+MySQL
Red Hat: Apache+PHP+PostgreSQL
Java trendies: Apache+Jakarta+JSP+Oracle
MS compliant: IIS+ASP+SQL7
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"ElcomSoft was culpable because it sold the program for $99 in the United States through an online payment service based in Issaquah, Wash., and with a Web site hosted in Chicago."
...Don't host in the states. Rackspace Europe? Verio AsiaPacific?
Dave
There is something that runs a danger of being lost in all the noise here, indeed it probably will: Palm only purchased Be's IP assets, specifically leaving Be Inc intact and explicitly with the "rights to assert and bring certain claims and causes of action, including under antitrust laws".
:)
So, we could see Mr Gasee in court after all. Maybe a good time to buy Be stock
Dave
Yes, but having them everywhere is something else.
Dave
why not use some sort of load balancing to redistribute/redirect the load to other mirrors around US?
Because it would be killer for bandwidth. A better solution would be to put smart (ish) selection of mirrors into the client. Unforunately it's written in Modula-3, so you won't see me hacking around with it in the near future.
Dave
I'm not so sure this is actually the case y'know. Good stereotype, certainly, and while geekdom certainly has its' fair share at either end of the bellcurve I do think there are a fair number still somewhere in the middle.
There are also quite a lot of sporty (mostly mountain bikes and snowboards) geeks who break the stereotype.
Dave
I dropped two points, but that was as a result of starting a DB flamefest and getting -1 Offtopic and -1 Troll. Like you're about to. And me again in all probability.
But, like the man says, not that I give a shit.
Pretty shite interview BTW. I take it the submissions queue got toasted along with a load of other stuff then?
Dave
40?? 40 is nothing. I'm running 60-70 most of the time in 1024x and am constantly wondering if I'd be better off staying in 800x where it the video card rarely drops below 100fps and the monitor refreshes at 100Hz. 40 is too slow, by a long way.
Ohhhhhh, sorry, just re-read the post. This was a generic troll. Is there a troll.pl knocking around I didn't know of?
Dave
Oh good, it seems I'm not alone. B&W seemed to be a collection of pet projects, not a game.
Dave
There was a post over to a MySQL vs Postgres flame fest once (on phpbuilder, iirc) that stated that while MySQL was prone to falling over every now and then, it had never lost any data. It guess that's the end of that one then.
Does it look like RedHat have made the right choice with postgres then?
Dave
It's not what you think, they run on Linux - debian I think.
Dave
Hey man, shame you've not got your email address up - chances are you won't see this. Oh well, let's try anyway.
/., I was starting to wonder if it was a dying breed.
I'm just not that convinced that spoofing ip headers is necessary any more for a good DoS attack. Certainly, when hiding one's ip was necessary, you needed to do it. Likewise when vanilla SYN floods worked, spoofing to a non-routable address just made it all the better. But neither of these apply in this day and age - the ready availability of an army of trojan'd windows boxes means the attackers IP is likely to never be discovered, and SYN cookie techniques mean that SYN floods are mostly history.
With regards to the scripting COM objects thing - yeah, making a well formed header is hardly rocket science. However, placing a request, registering as a user and accepting the cookie from the server is a markedly difficult task that would be made easier by scriptable libraries. Remember that the art of a good DoS is to get the server to dedicate as many resources as possible to serving something that is not a real client. Using a scripted real client to do it seems like a great idea to me.
Man, you could start opening https sessions, that'd slow it down REAL fast.
But thanks, well informed comment on
Dave
Look, raw sockets in windows are not the end of the world: they're available already, open source (http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/winpcap/), and you can run them as a non-privaleged user. In as much as MS have a concept of privaleged users.
Even if they weren't, there are SO MANY possible security exploits you can run using a small army of 0wn3d windows boxes. Including (but not limited to) just packeting the crap out of Steve "Bloody" Gibson's webserver. For instance, has anyone considered using something to script the IE network libraries (COM objects, I would imagine) in the background and launch a 'many millions of perfectly valid requests, complete with cookies and everything' attack?
How would you defend against that?
This whole raw socket thing has been blown out of all proportion. Can we please stop fretting and find a way of PREVENTING these big attacks from being spread. Or possible. Or something.
Dave >:(
Microsoft that is. A few copies of Win98 here and there don't really show up, particularly when it's the /. population were talking about. What they're interested in is the corporate desktop, OEM deals and servers.
Kick 'em in the servers, that's what I say.
My 2c: I've bought a couple of FreeBSD distributions, and got the original Win95 upgrade when it came out. Hey, I was young, I was experimenting, I didn't inhale.
Dave
one transistor.
A transistor? A transistor? You LUCKY BASTARD. When I were a lad we had to switch currents with our teeth, and only when a wire marked "gate", which was shoved up me arse, went live with over a kilowatt.
took up half your backyard.
Half your back yard? You LUCKY LUCKY BASTARD. Ours took over t'town, and town next door. And it were so heavy that people making tide tables used to have to come to me mothers' door and ask where t'computer would be on such and such a date.
Dave
Yes, we still have the XT. No, I haven't tried to get Linux running on it.
Good thing too, Linux needs an MMU. Multics might go though.
Dave
Brooks, Fred, The Mythical Man-Month -- Because it woke the world up to how to build big systems.
On a similar note you should have "Rapid Development" by Steve McConnell. This is a great book on how to apply the lessons learned by Fred Brooks in the real world.
Dave
OK, I have to go soon, so just a quick note:
, so 45 knots won't even get them the speed record. YPE claims a top speed of 54 knots, and to be honest I believe them. Even if they are Australians.
45 knots on a sailing hydrofoil with, like, cabin and somewhere to make a cup of coffee? I think not. Without going into details just accept that I went to University *just* to study this problem (I came to computing through writing fluid dynamics code) and you can take it from me that it won't be happening.
Thing 2: Current speed sailing record is 46.52 knots, held by Yellow Pages Endeavour (http://www.mko.freesurf.fr/innovoile/YPE_e.html)
Dave
We had a cable modem service called Chello, run by a Dutch ISP apparently. They were dumb enough to offer unlimited downloads and consequently a few people attempted to make copies of the entire Internet. Well, perhaps just the pr0n and warez, but you get the picture.
So, their business model which was based (as best I can tell) on a T1 and a colossal cache was quickly reduced to rubble and download speeds allegedly dropped to the 56K kind of arena. Lots of pissed off people = no more chello.
Dave
From your link: "A flaw in this explanation is that there is no known physical principle to explain how the starting vortex can cause wing circulation"... what, with the exception of conservation of angular momentum, for example? Exactly the same physical effect that is responsible for the opposite-identical vortices that come from the tips of the wings (because angular momentum is conserved in three dimensions).
Sorry guys, it's to do with rotation over the wing sections. How do we think a spinning cricket/golf ball generates lift? The 'blowing air downwards' theory is all well and good, but in practice the air gets blown downwards as a by-product of what's really going on.
If you're really up for it, "Aero-Hydrodynamics of sailing" by C.A.Marchaj is the book to get.
Dave
How the fuck is that flamebait?
Highlights of the dmesg for those who like that sort of thing:
Whohoo!
Dave
From the point of view of tradmarking windows, I believe it is "Microsoft Windows" and various varieties but not the word "windows" itself that is tradmarked.
And the flying window logo thingy. Jeez, strap a penguin on that and you'd be in trouble.
Dave
a telephone handset (think about it!)
Whoa! Dead mobile phone, I even have one around.
Make no mistake, you are the one.
Dave
Somthing to regulate the temperature would be better.
Even consumer level espresso machines do this. Ours does anyway, so this doesn't even approach being a holy grail.
Now, a consumer espresso machine where the steamer had some semblance of power in it? That's a holy grail.
Dave
When notifying the benchmark author about this issue, he simply replied that he expects most users NOT to checkout any possible optimizations.
To a certain extent I agree with him. I suspect there's a lot of php code that will be run on 'off the shelf' Cobalts etc. where rebuilding the interpreter is not really a practical proposition.
Besides, you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, and that's the simplest.
Too many languages? Yeah, I think so. I would've been happier with just C, C++, Java and possibly Python myself. Must be some mileage in comparing entire web application platforms too:
Homepage favourite: Apache+PHP+MySQL
Red Hat: Apache+PHP+PostgreSQL
Java trendies: Apache+Jakarta+JSP+Oracle
MS compliant: IIS+ASP+SQL7
For instance.
Dave