I was going to simply reply that my original comment is a "stereotype" and not a "racist" comment, but I like your full rebuttal better. I guess some people need to have things explained to them to understand:)
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I agree, that has a better chance of working than most people think. However, I found that the messages that make the statement at the beginning that says "This is being sent in accordance...." or other quote stating what's allowable by law for unsolicited e-mail, are the ones you can't unsubscribe from even though you are provided a means to "by law". The links simply do not work or appear to work and do nothing.
Messages with "reply to remove" have a reply-to email address like: dflajksdfldf@whatever.com
Just a random banging of home row keys followed by a domain name. The odds are high that those addresses DON'T EXIST
I brought this up before. But I think this is a good example how big unions help out their members (NOT!!).
My Dad worked for a large equipment manufacturing corporation and was a member of a union, for about 30 years. I remember repeated contract negotiations at regular intervals (2-4 years) which generally resulted in additional pay and benefits for the workers. Sometimes there were work strikes, one or two in that 30 years extended for at least 6 months. But the union got a little cocky in my opiniun. They tried asking for a bit more than they should have, from a company that they knew at the time, was losing money because of a slowdown in their current market.
My Dad didn't like the idea, but he nevertheless went along with the Union's decision to strike. Almost all of the townspeople, and the local press, thought a strike was a bad tactic. They were already well paid and compensated. But the Union wanted to squeeze blood from a stone, I guess.
Eventually, my Dad noticed the talks went nowhere and it was a useless waiting game. I'm proud of my Dad for making the decision to cross the picket line and think of his family and his welfare at a time that it was completely obvious that the Union stopped doing so. The Union was blind to what was going to happen, even though everyone else knew that the company must shut down their operations in this town to survive as a business. Still, the remaining Union members supported their side of a losing battle. For those people, I have no sympathy.
The company hired temps to fill in positions and rewarded those who did cross the picket line with available overtime work and continued benefits coverage, even though the original union contract ran out.
My Dad made a fortune on overtime pay, so to speak. He was able to pay off all his bills, the mortgage, etc. To him, nothing was different as before the strike, except maybe loads of voluntary overtime and doubletime with the associated pay.
The company did eventually shut the doors, even while the picketers were STILL standing at the front gate. Those, like my Dad, who decided many months ago to cross the picket line received various compensation depending on their seniority. My Dad recieved early retirement, with pay and benefits. Not bad for a guy who is more than a decade away from federal retirement age.
He's not filthy rich from it, but with his mortgage, bills, and cars paid off, he can still live comfortably with what he makes with his retirement benefits. Had he stuck with the almighty union, he wouldn't have the time he has now to spend with his grandkids.
For the most part, you're correct. But, look deeper. While your complacent with your use of Linux and not caring about PHB's use of it, the industry is going to change around you, and not for the better.
I submit as a personally experienced example of superiority left by the wayside because the idea wasn't defended as well as it should have been.
In 1988, I became the prowd owner of an Amiga 500. FAR superior graphics and multimedia than anything on the consumer market. True multitasking OS in 512K ROM space. Back then, I argued over the use of those superior aspects and how they'll make computing more enjoyable. The 'PHB' types would say "Well, I don't need anything like that". Years later, full color graphics and multitasking (of sorts) became available on PC platforms thanks in part to Microsoft. You'd think it was a brand new idea at the time. The PHB types would then say "Hey, look what I can do!!" Those hailing the Amiga knew about these features years before. And the Amiga was coming into its own with productivity software and was destined to be side by side with the MAC. But, in the early days of FUD, MS Windows was perceived as the best, and you could get it very cheap (**cough**) for your PC compatible computer. Eventually, the Amiga died off. Even though I still have an Amiga tightly closed in my white knuckled grip, I look at Linux as a new icon of superiority and creativity. And as an example of a beneficial computing platform even though PHBs don't know that yet.
My point is: If you believe it, and you know it's value to the PHBs even if they don't know it yet, don't sit there. Let them know. Take the time to provide examples. I let the public know about it all the time. I have "LINUX OS" as my state issued license plate. I answer questions people have when asked about it. I've even set a few people straight who thought Linux was only to hack other computers. And as soon as someone wants to bankroll it, I'll advertise Linux with a vinyl wrap on my car and a big Tux graphic on the hood.
1. A time machine to get you back to 1995/6 and
2. Inside connection with a major phone company or cable company so you can sell your customers over to them for a profit before they steal them
I've been there, done that... Also, if you find venture capital, make sure they DON'T use AOL and they know what the Internet is. My bankroll was completely clueless when they paid my way to developing an ISP in '96 and pulled out 9 months later after not realizing (despite many explanations) what the Internet is good for and why anybody would use it.
What makes the GPL so different than any other software agreement in that it's words aren't completely legal binding?
Just because it wasn't written behind closed doors by company owned lawyers doesn't render it as ineffective as other software agreements like MS EULA and such.
Just like we have PrePaid Lawyer services for those who can't afford costly legal representation, the EFF is analogous(sp?) to such legal services for programmers. It gives them a source for effectively written distribution and copyright licensing of there software.
I think you only need to convince a judge 'testing' this license that taking steps to nullify or weaken such a contract like GPL is totally unfair and biased. Such biasing would need a STRONG legal leg to stand on.
I can just imagine the grotesque looking device pictured in a future User Friendly comic strip. Somewhat of a cross between Jetsonesque and early Warner Brother cartoon depictions of futuristic devices. (Rings around the antenna and such)
I don't recall the/. article saying the govornment watching your every move online. It says that they are going to improve their services by making them accessible online. Basically, every Federal service that causes you to drag your butt down to some musty old building and wait till they call your number would now be able to be done online.
In most cases regarding government actions such as this, I tend to be 75% conspiracy theorist. But this bill doesn't trigger that response. They're just proposing to put someone in charge of the IT departments of all the government agencies so that there is a single point of focus and standardization in this online effort.
If I were to nominate anybody, I'd nominate the person in charge of making e-filing of our taxes possible. That process worked well for me in the past couple of years.
My Dad worked for a large equipment manufacturing corporation and was a member of a union, for about 30 years. I remember repeated contract negotiations at regular intervals (2-4 years) which generally resulted in additional pay and benefits for the workers. Sometimes there were work strikes, one or two in that 30 years extended for at least 6 months.
But the union got a little cocky in my opiniun. They tried asking for a bit more than they should have, from a company that they knew at the time, was losing money because of a slowdown in their current market.
My Dad didn't like the idea, but he nevertheless went along with the Union's decision to strike. Almost all of the townspeople, and the local press, thought a strike was a bad tactic. They were already well paid and compensated. But the Union wanted to squeeze blood from a stone, I guess.
Eventually, my Dad noticed the talks went nowhere and it was a useless waiting game. I'm proud of my Dad for making the decision to cross the picket line and think of his family and his welfare at a time that it was completely obvious that the Union stopped doing so. The Union was blind to what was going to happen, even though everyone else knew that the company must shut down their operations in this town to survive as a business. Still, the Union members supported their side of a losing battle. For those people, I have no sympathy.
The company hired temps to fill in positions and rewarded those who did cross the picket line with available overtime work and continued benefits coverage, even though the original union contract ran out.
My Dad made a fortune on overtime pay, so to speak. He was able to pay off all his bills, the mortgage, etc. To him, nothing was different as before the strike, except maybe loads of voluntary overtime and doubletime with the associated pay.
The company did eventually shut the doors, even while the picketers were STILL standing at the front gate. Those, like my Dad, who decided many months ago to cross the picket line received various compensation depending on their seniority. My Dad recieved early retirement, with pay and benefits. Not bad for a guy who is more than a decade away from federal retirement age.
He's not filthy rich from it, but with his mortgage, bills, and cars paid off, he can still live comfortably with what he makes with his retirement benefits. Had he stuck with the almighty union, he wouldn't have the time he has now to spend with his grandkids.
IANAL, but I found this summary of one of the exemptions to circumvention in the DMCA
Personal privacy (section 1201(i)). This exception permits circumvention when the technological measure, or the work it protects, is capable of collecting or disseminating personally identifying information about the online activities of a natural person.
The way I see it. If the use of this 'service' requires identifying information and logs my use or access to it, I have the right to circumvent the 'protection' to maintain my own copy.
Didn't IBM do that for a while with their PS/2 servers. And didn't that convenience cost you many $$$ over that of a decent magnetic tipped screwdriver (not to mention the additional microchannel costs)?
Most of the time, you waste time putting your parts in fancy mounting adaptors to make replacing parts 'quickly' not worth the effort.
For less than the price of a cup of Bawls, you can help poor programmers forced to live in huddled masses in such horrible conditions so you may enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I think the donation part is a great idea. Let's help keep a good thing going
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Using a microscope, Mussa-Ivaldi or his colleagues extract brain stems from the squiggly, pencil-thin, 6-inch-long lamprey larvae under anesthetic.
So... are we worried about pain relief for a lamprey larvae that's to die? They can't be that squiggly that you can't pin them down to keep them from moving.
That's about as dumb as using an alcohol prep pad on the arm of someone who is to die by lethal injection.
If the bill does pass, and you get a copy of the software (on CD as a backup hopefully) with your new PC, simply delete the offending program and mark your territory as NOT wanting the censorware by hanging the CD from a noose off of the front fencepost.
In other words, fly the flag of what you believe in. If you don't want forced censorware, demonstrate your dislike.
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I was going to simply reply that my original comment is a "stereotype" and not a "racist" comment, but I like your full rebuttal better. I guess some people need to have things explained to them to understand :)
Messages with "reply to remove" have a reply-to email address like: dflajksdfldf@whatever.com
Just a random banging of home row keys followed by a domain name. The odds are high that those addresses DON'T EXIST
What about the 4000+ pages of clipper chip information that hasn't been found by FBI personnel yet?
Amazon will just change the name and patent the "One Crick" method of shopping
My Dad worked for a large equipment manufacturing corporation and was a member of a union, for about 30 years. I remember repeated contract negotiations at regular intervals (2-4 years) which generally resulted in additional pay and benefits for the workers. Sometimes there were work strikes, one or two in that 30 years extended for at least 6 months. But the union got a little cocky in my opiniun. They tried asking for a bit more than they should have, from a company that they knew at the time, was losing money because of a slowdown in their current market.
My Dad didn't like the idea, but he nevertheless went along with the Union's decision to strike. Almost all of the townspeople, and the local press, thought a strike was a bad tactic. They were already well paid and compensated. But the Union wanted to squeeze blood from a stone, I guess.
Eventually, my Dad noticed the talks went nowhere and it was a useless waiting game. I'm proud of my Dad for making the decision to cross the picket line and think of his family and his welfare at a time that it was completely obvious that the Union stopped doing so. The Union was blind to what was going to happen, even though everyone else knew that the company must shut down their operations in this town to survive as a business. Still, the remaining Union members supported their side of a losing battle. For those people, I have no sympathy.
The company hired temps to fill in positions and rewarded those who did cross the picket line with available overtime work and continued benefits coverage, even though the original union contract ran out.
My Dad made a fortune on overtime pay, so to speak. He was able to pay off all his bills, the mortgage, etc. To him, nothing was different as before the strike, except maybe loads of voluntary overtime and doubletime with the associated pay.
The company did eventually shut the doors, even while the picketers were STILL standing at the front gate. Those, like my Dad, who decided many months ago to cross the picket line received various compensation depending on their seniority. My Dad recieved early retirement, with pay and benefits. Not bad for a guy who is more than a decade away from federal retirement age.
He's not filthy rich from it, but with his mortgage, bills, and cars paid off, he can still live comfortably with what he makes with his retirement benefits. Had he stuck with the almighty union, he wouldn't have the time he has now to spend with his grandkids.
Also... This was no two-bit union. It was the UAW
I submit as a personally experienced example of superiority left by the wayside because the idea wasn't defended as well as it should have been.
In 1988, I became the prowd owner of an Amiga 500. FAR superior graphics and multimedia than anything on the consumer market. True multitasking OS in 512K ROM space. Back then, I argued over the use of those superior aspects and how they'll make computing more enjoyable. The 'PHB' types would say "Well, I don't need anything like that". Years later, full color graphics and multitasking (of sorts) became available on PC platforms thanks in part to Microsoft. You'd think it was a brand new idea at the time. The PHB types would then say "Hey, look what I can do!!" Those hailing the Amiga knew about these features years before. And the Amiga was coming into its own with productivity software and was destined to be side by side with the MAC. But, in the early days of FUD, MS Windows was perceived as the best, and you could get it very cheap (**cough**) for your PC compatible computer. Eventually, the Amiga died off. Even though I still have an Amiga tightly closed in my white knuckled grip, I look at Linux as a new icon of superiority and creativity. And as an example of a beneficial computing platform even though PHBs don't know that yet.
My point is: If you believe it, and you know it's value to the PHBs even if they don't know it yet, don't sit there. Let them know. Take the time to provide examples. I let the public know about it all the time. I have "LINUX OS" as my state issued license plate. I answer questions people have when asked about it. I've even set a few people straight who thought Linux was only to hack other computers. And as soon as someone wants to bankroll it, I'll advertise Linux with a vinyl wrap on my car and a big Tux graphic on the hood.
Pneumatic tubes are the ONLY way my request for a vacation at the new Fantasy Island can get delivered....
2. Inside connection with a major phone company or cable company so you can sell your customers over to them for a profit before they steal them
I've been there, done that... Also, if you find venture capital, make sure they DON'T use AOL and they know what the Internet is. My bankroll was completely clueless when they paid my way to developing an ISP in '96 and pulled out 9 months later after not realizing (despite many explanations) what the Internet is good for and why anybody would use it.
Just because it wasn't written behind closed doors by company owned lawyers doesn't render it as ineffective as other software agreements like MS EULA and such.
Just like we have PrePaid Lawyer services for those who can't afford costly legal representation, the EFF is analogous(sp?) to such legal services for programmers. It gives them a source for effectively written distribution and copyright licensing of there software.
I think you only need to convince a judge 'testing' this license that taking steps to nullify or weaken such a contract like GPL is totally unfair and biased. Such biasing would need a STRONG legal leg to stand on.
I can just imagine the grotesque looking device pictured in a future User Friendly comic strip. Somewhat of a cross between Jetsonesque and early Warner Brother cartoon depictions of futuristic devices. (Rings around the antenna and such)
Commodore Computers (RIP) had dubbed the VIC-20 as the computer for the masses back in 1981
In most cases regarding government actions such as this, I tend to be 75% conspiracy theorist. But this bill doesn't trigger that response. They're just proposing to put someone in charge of the IT departments of all the government agencies so that there is a single point of focus and standardization in this online effort.
If I were to nominate anybody, I'd nominate the person in charge of making e-filing of our taxes possible. That process worked well for me in the past couple of years.
But the union got a little cocky in my opiniun. They tried asking for a bit more than they should have, from a company that they knew at the time, was losing money because of a slowdown in their current market.
My Dad didn't like the idea, but he nevertheless went along with the Union's decision to strike. Almost all of the townspeople, and the local press, thought a strike was a bad tactic. They were already well paid and compensated. But the Union wanted to squeeze blood from a stone, I guess.
Eventually, my Dad noticed the talks went nowhere and it was a useless waiting game. I'm proud of my Dad for making the decision to cross the picket line and think of his family and his welfare at a time that it was completely obvious that the Union stopped doing so. The Union was blind to what was going to happen, even though everyone else knew that the company must shut down their operations in this town to survive as a business. Still, the Union members supported their side of a losing battle. For those people, I have no sympathy.
The company hired temps to fill in positions and rewarded those who did cross the picket line with available overtime work and continued benefits coverage, even though the original union contract ran out.
My Dad made a fortune on overtime pay, so to speak. He was able to pay off all his bills, the mortgage, etc. To him, nothing was different as before the strike, except maybe loads of voluntary overtime and doubletime with the associated pay.
The company did eventually shut the doors, even while the picketers were STILL standing at the front gate. Those, like my Dad, who decided many months ago to cross the picket line received various compensation depending on their seniority. My Dad recieved early retirement, with pay and benefits. Not bad for a guy who is more than a decade away from federal retirement age.
He's not filthy rich from it, but with his mortgage, bills, and cars paid off, he can still live comfortably with what he makes with his retirement benefits. Had he stuck with the almighty union, he wouldn't have the time he has now to spend with his grandkids.
Also... This was no two-bit union. It was the UAW
Ranks just above Extra class and requires network certification
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Personal privacy (section 1201(i)). This exception permits circumvention when the technological measure, or the work it protects, is capable of collecting or disseminating personally identifying information about the online activities of a natural person.
The way I see it. If the use of this 'service' requires identifying information and logs my use or access to it, I have the right to circumvent the 'protection' to maintain my own copy.
This way, all mobile phone ring tones are covered.
When will M$ reps go to computer trade shows and enforce the illegal sale of OEM Windows CDs at the software only vendors.
Most of the time, you waste time putting your parts in fancy mounting adaptors to make replacing parts 'quickly' not worth the effort.
Didn't they solve that problem in Star Trek IV or something....
Transparent Aluminum
(You'd think aluminum would still have electrical properties in any form and could shield stray RF to tolerances)
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I can also take a picture of my nose pressed up against glass and stick the picture inside the case
Punish those who dance with the devil and distribute his evil.
If we buy our Linux OS from department stores, MAYBE the department stores will finally stock more Linux software.
Seems like a win-win situation
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I think the donation part is a great idea. Let's help keep a good thing going
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So... are we worried about pain relief for a lamprey larvae that's to die? They can't be that squiggly that you can't pin them down to keep them from moving.
That's about as dumb as using an alcohol prep pad on the arm of someone who is to die by lethal injection.
In other words, fly the flag of what you believe in. If you don't want forced censorware, demonstrate your dislike.
Now, where's my Tux flag...?