you can agree to it. In most cases you purchase the software and have to open it before you can agree to the terms and conditions of use. Since you have opened it you may not return it. This practice must be stopped we should allowed to return it if we cannot read the terms prior to installing the software or the terms and conditions should be printed on the box so we may agree prior to purchassing the product.
Well I'm sad that he did not keep the NeXT interface. I found it clean, easy to use, the dock and menues could be mouved out of the way or hidden.
I would love to get rid of that bar on the top of the screen. In NeXT we had right click and the menue would appear, on OS X we have no such option we have to live with that god awfull bar on the top.
This may sound like a flame but it's just my $.02. I like my desktop clean.
I agree and yet disagree. We should meet the users need but attaching 300Mb files and dumping them on their coworkers is not the answer. In the ideal world we would have no storage limits, cpu limits and all trash would be deleted before we received it.
This is not an opinion of a random person on slashdot it's a question of who is using the app. If your accountant is entering invoices in your system fine but the entry is always done by a clerk and the accountant verifies the enties. All he needs to see are the financials, the GL detail and the supporting ledgers.
Chances are he is not doing the work but rather verifying it.
I haven't been in an environment where it would take more than a week to become familiar with an accounting app. Or a couple of days to train someone familiar to accounting how to use a certain app.
The issues are always in the reports.
I also have very strong preferences in my apps. If the app uses the TAB to advance to the next field instead of the ENTER key, I will spend money to replace it. But the MOST important consideration of an accounting app is that it's always working. No DOWNTIME.
Training for a accounting system is a joke almost all run +/- the same I have used over 10 different systems, from $150,000.00 systems to small $3,000.00 systems. once the initial setup is done the only diff. between aps was which reports need to be generated.
I say get rid of these stupid GUI systems which slow down the user. Get rid of the TAB for next feild it should be ENTER. If you ever had to enter Invoice, Checks, or JE's you would know what I mean.
And the last but most important thing....I need it to work from all stations all the time. Downtime is not an option. So give me Linux, FreeBSD, *NIX accounting any day.
Accounting is accounting is accounting. The issue is does the app produce the roports which you require. Is it ment to manage your business ie intergrated with a POS system or is it just a tool for financial information.
What makes an accounting app great is how can you present the financial info. What analisys does it allow you to do? Does it reduce your work load?
The bells built their network as a monopoly. They have equipment and lines in place that have been built when there was no competition. Now anyone trying to get into this market must take enormous risks and they can never expect the results that the bell's had.
I think they should break up all telco's into two entities. The first being one which provides the infrastructure and which is regulated. The other the services offered ontop of this infrastructure which will not be regulated. Regulated rates should be established to connect to the infrastructure. Any one can offer their services to the general public. Joe public will pay the individual service providers for telephone, long distance, internet, TV etc... The infrastucture co will charge the service providers per connection based on the regulated rates.
One infrastructure that all can share which was by the way developed as a monopoly.
The grass is not greener on the other side...While Microsoft has been active so has OSS. We have great GUI interfaces, security, remote control, games, office applications, business applications, etc....
OSS is strating to mature in the simple USER environment while MS is maturing in the server environment.
I remember five years ago not beeing able to open a word doc on FreBSD/Linux today I could not care less because it's not an issue I have a choice of app's. They may not be perfect but it's better than nothing.
So let's stop looking at what sh*t MS is producing and continue building the app's we need and five years from now MS will not even be a issue.
It's marketing. You bought marketing not a product. Any company trying to compete seems to have no choice. We demand that we get the latest product. If it doesn't work, do we return it? No way we wait for the driver. Things would be diffrent if we returned defective products, and yes I do consider a product defective if the marketing does not match the actual results.
I don't get your humor. The issue is that some words belong to the language and were defined prior to a trademark. If this word is not being used within the same industrie to misslead the public then why not on a first come first serve basis. A good example that comes to mind is the word ajax. Which was being used by an ISP on a.NET and the trademark holder of cleaning supplies took them to court.
WORD is a trademark of MicroSoft and has been used in this comment without permission. If you feel offended please replace WORD with OPEN OFFICE. Thank you for your time.
This is like saying that if I buy seeds I may not grow and resell the results of my labour.
While I respect apples intention, I think that they have been caught in there own little game.
FIRST They produce a beta product give it a final status and are able to sell this product and make alot of $$$$.
SECOND They release the final/stable product but find that it required sooooooo many changes that they needed to include almost all, if not all, the files otherwise it would not work.
Third They did not release this as a patch, but wish to make money from the same idiots (WHICH I AM ONE) who bought there product so they called it an upgrade.
What I see wrong here is that Apple is not the only one doing this. These companies sell us sugar pills( or if you prefer not to be polite garbage) untill they get there product right, with our help of course. Then they resell us the original product that we were expecting at a DISCOUNT...NOT!!!, and call it an upgrade.
Yes folks we are IDIOTS (I include myself) and we continue to buy there products.
Then they freeze the domain untill you pay back the fees plus processing charges or such.
Before you do anything like that read the terms of use from your cc. This is not an acceptable form of use. Your card may be suspended. Call their 1-800 and let the charge accumulate untill someone responds.
Oh give me a break. Have you ever tried to install Window$ and had a plug and play problem???
Let's just say the average Joe doesn't know how to get around it.
Every system has it's pros and cons. I've tried to install Win 2000 on a P233 with 512MEG ram as a test system. It wouldn't even load. It just start and then freeze. No errors....Linux installed no problemo FreeBSD installed no problemo, but windos just didn'y want to...no reason, no error. The only reason windows is so easy to install is that it is already installed.
They need to do better than that. Prices need to drop. MS Office should retail under $100. The reality is that the sofware hasn't changed much in over 5 year but the prices seem to be going up with every new release.
Unfortunately they have reached desktop maturity and the shareholders will not accept a reduction in revenue growth.
I hope they keep their eyes closed for another year then Linux on the desktop will be a new reality and much harder to combat.
It's sad that they are willing to spend on certain solutions and not others. Why must free be FREE? Why do we need an invoice to justify an expense?
Don't get me wrong, this is good news for Open Source, but if you can't give back in one way why not give back in another. If Linux was not there they would be traped in spending these funds.
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I would love to get rid of that bar on the top of the screen. In NeXT we had right click and the menue would appear, on OS X we have no such option we have to live with that god awfull bar on the top.
This may sound like a flame but it's just my $.02. I like my desktop clean.
my $0.02
There will always be limits.
Chances are he is not doing the work but rather verifying it.
The issues are always in the reports.
I also have very strong preferences in my apps. If the app uses the TAB to advance to the next field instead of the ENTER key, I will spend money to replace it. But the MOST important consideration of an accounting app is that it's always working. No DOWNTIME.
Training for a accounting system is a joke almost all run +/- the same I have used over 10 different systems, from $150,000.00 systems to small $3,000.00 systems. once the initial setup is done the only diff. between aps was which reports need to be generated.
I say get rid of these stupid GUI systems which slow down the user. Get rid of the TAB for next feild it should be ENTER. If you ever had to enter Invoice, Checks, or JE's you would know what I mean.
And the last but most important thing....I need it to work from all stations all the time. Downtime is not an option. So give me Linux, FreeBSD, *NIX accounting any day.
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What makes an accounting app great is how can you present the financial info. What analisys does it allow you to do? Does it reduce your work load?
If you know one accounting app you know them all.
One infrastructure that all can share which was by the way developed as a monopoly.
OSS is strating to mature in the simple USER environment while MS is maturing in the server environment.
I remember five years ago not beeing able to open a word doc on FreBSD/Linux today I could not care less because it's not an issue I have a choice of app's. They may not be perfect but it's better than nothing.
So let's stop looking at what sh*t MS is producing and continue building the app's we need and five years from now MS will not even be a issue.
They don't know how to charge.
WORD is a trademark of MicroSoft and has been used in this comment without permission. If you feel offended please replace WORD with OPEN OFFICE. Thank you for your time.
I just don't agree with it.
While I respect apples intention, I think that they have been caught in there own little game.
FIRST They produce a beta product give it a final status and are able to sell this product and make alot of $$$$.
SECOND They release the final/stable product but find that it required sooooooo many changes that they needed to include almost all, if not all, the files otherwise it would not work.
Third They did not release this as a patch, but wish to make money from the same idiots (WHICH I AM ONE) who bought there product so they called it an upgrade.
What I see wrong here is that Apple is not the only one doing this. These companies sell us sugar pills( or if you prefer not to be polite garbage) untill they get there product right, with our help of course. Then they resell us the original product that we were expecting at a DISCOUNT...NOT!!!, and call it an upgrade.
Yes folks we are IDIOTS (I include myself) and we continue to buy there products.
Before you do anything like that read the terms of use from your cc. This is not an acceptable form of use. Your card may be suspended. Call their 1-800 and let the charge accumulate untill someone responds.
Let's just say the average Joe doesn't know how to get around it.
Every system has it's pros and cons. I've tried to install Win 2000 on a P233 with 512MEG ram as a test system. It wouldn't even load. It just start and then freeze. No errors....Linux installed no problemo FreeBSD installed no problemo, but windos just didn'y want to...no reason, no error. The only reason windows is so easy to install is that it is already installed.
Unfortunately they have reached desktop maturity and the shareholders will not accept a reduction in revenue growth.
I hope they keep their eyes closed for another year then Linux on the desktop will be a new reality and much harder to combat.
It's sad that they are willing to spend on certain solutions and not others. Why must free be FREE? Why do we need an invoice to justify an expense?
Don't get me wrong, this is good news for Open Source, but if you can't give back in one way why not give back in another. If Linux was not there they would be traped in spending these funds.