The first and third don't seem to offer much on this, but I think the second probably called out the thing worth debating here, unless there's been more on the subject since:
Nociception vs. Pain
From Jane A. Smith's "A Question of Pain in Invertebrates":
Invertebrates, it seems, exhibit nociceptive responses analogous to those shown by vertebrates. They can detect and respond to noxious stimuli, and in some cases, these responses can be modified by opioid substances. However, in humans, at least, there is a distinction to be made between the "registering" of a noxious stimulus and the "experience" of pain. In humans, pain "may be seen as the response of the whole awake conscious organism to noxious stimuli, seated.., at the highest levels in the central nervous system, involving emotional and other psychological components" (Iggo, 1984). Experiments on decorticate mammals have shown that complex, though stereotyped, motor responses to noxious stimuli may occur in the absence of consciousness and, therefore, of pain (Iggo, 1984). Thus, it is possible that invertebrates' responses to noxious stimuli (and modifications of these responses) could be simple reflexes, occurring without the animals being aware of experiencing something unpleasant, that is, without "suffering" something akin to what humans call pain.
[...] What evidence might help in distinguishing between nociceptive "responsiveness" and the perception of pain? [...]
In mammals, responses to painful stimuli often persist beyond a simple reflex withdrawal, so that, for example, the animals may become immobile, limp or "guard" the affected part, show aggression when approached, reduce or stop feeding and drinking, and show decreased sexual activity (Morton and Griffiths, 1985). The animals may also learn in the future to avoid situations similar to the one in which the pain occurred. Such responses, while not proof that the animals have experienced pain, can indicate that something more than a simple nociceptive reflex is involved. Together, they may help the animal to recover from damage caused by the painful event and avoid being harmed in the future.
I'm not the person you responded to, but I thought it was worth mentioning that your English is better than many native speakers, and I wouldn't have known it's your second or third language if you hadn't said so.
Expression Web is a Dreamweaver knockoff. Expression Blend is a XAML UI designer for WPF/Silverlight Expression Design is for vector (and raster) design Expression Encoder is a screen recorder and modest editor
The suites have been part of the BizSpark and DreamSpark programs for a while now.
It looks like they're just pounding out ho-hum NAS boxes like the old Buffalo terastations, and a few rackmount storage servers.
We had an earlier generation iomega rackmount at work. I swear it was there before I got there. The thing was a miserable clusterfuck of bad hardware and software choices. I'd be surprised if they're much better at it now.
I guess it makes sense though. It doesn't make a lot of sense to go into high end storage equipment with a name you see on a Best Buy shelf, and there's not much in the way of unique storage solutions in the home user market.
Most people would just use something like Tor (or Tor and another VPN/proxy service).
Erm... the transport doesn't matter if you're analyzing message composition.
Wasn't this part of what that Barr guy was doing to try to figure out who members of Anonymous were? I think I read recently that he turned out to be right about the one that ran to Canada.
I don't disagree... it's fair point. I'd just say it's excusable to refer to it either way.
This reminds me a bit of those Navajo (and other Native American) "code talkers", though I think they did employ some modest obfuscation on top of the languages.
I suppose so, but only as much as "wtf", "lol", and "brb" could be considered encrypted communications.
I think it's pretty neat that the history buff figured out what it was, complete with historical context of who sent it, from where, what he was doing, etc. That's what makes that stuff interesting.
I'm not sure that disagrees with what I was saying. But no matter, I agree that a slightly nicer model would be nice. I'm just not upset that they released the one they said they would before working on a fancier one.
I know a lot of people have been making noise about wanting a Model C since the beginning. I imagine they'll get around to it, and then people will gripe that it's either too expensive or not as good as their gaming rig.;)
Right. People like Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk. They're just dummies that haven't thought about it enough, or maybe they're just not good with numbers or technology. Why would we even consider the possibility of leaving this rock if we can't manage more than a year or so off-planet right now? Obviously you're right, it's impossible, and everyone else is wrong.
Or just maybe petitioning for a Death Star has absolutely nothing to do with seriously considering the possibility of living somewhere other than earth, and it might be possible. If you listen to some people much smarter than you or me, possibly even in our lifetime.
Beyond that, why so angry about people having dreams of space? Take a deep breath.
You're right, an e-reader of the simple sort is better than a tablet for reading in a number of ways. Epaper (are we still calling it that?) is easier to read, assuming you have a light source in or near the reader. Managing the device is obviously simple... updates are pretty rare. Battery life far exceeds a tablet. They're usually much more compact. They're simple to operate and they're less expensive.
That said, I rarely use mine anymore. It's just simpler to carry around the tablet that will do whatever I want. And they've come down in price now so much that some are pretty competitively priced, compared to an ereader.
So yeah, I think tablets will all but kill the reader market. As with most tech the readers won't go away entirely. At least not for a good, long while.
I live outside Chicago, which has always had some of the strictest gun control in the nation, nestled within a large county with pretty strict gun control, and is frequently named Murder Capital of the US. It's been like that so long that people now joke (unfunny though it sounds) that they ought to just move to sunny Juarez, or maybe Mogadishu. A year or two ago they were kicking around the idea of calling in the national guard to police the streets. I swear I'm not making this up.
Gun control laws just don't matter. It's a distraction. Violent crime generally comes with poverty in densely populated areas.
And yes, nutters like this horrible thing today are exceptions to that. You'll always have horrible stuff like the 22 children in the stabbing spree in China today, the 2011 Norway attacks, Unibomber types, etc.
In other words, people seize upon others' emotional distress in order to advance their own partisan agenda. Is that about right?
Absolutely this. And yes, I'd be willing to admit that it happens in both directions... including the side I tend to agree with.
I suppose the catch here is that this will be part of the national discourse. My guess is if I turned on the TV right now, there'd already be some pretty nasty and untimely arguments raging.
And which side can really be expected to ignore all baiting and leave it off the table for now? It's always a hot topic, and something painful like this acts as an emotional multiplier for both sides.
It just sucks. I wish it hadn't happened and I feel for every single one of them.
That's just wrong. Everything our species uses to kill, beyond our most primitive firearms and explosives, involves computers designed for killing. And it's easy to argue that the purpose is more explicit in those computers than you can say a metal tube has a motive.
But the original point was irrelevant either way.
As is mentioned in every argument on the subject, we've tried thousands of gun laws in this country, from little silly ones to outright bans, at local, state, and even federal levels. They don't work.
It turns out that people do horrible things for reasons wholly disconnected from gun legislation and without regard for what's legal. But we keep looking to these ridiculous laws as simple fixes, or at least as a little security theater, at the expense of 47% of the US population and everyone's right to defend themselves from the very things we're trying to fix.
But god forbid we do something difficult but useful, like address poverty in our largest cities. If anyone were genuinely concerned about the number of violent crimes in our country they'd start there, and wouldn't move on to stupid stuff like gun laws until that was well and truly solved.
Whatever happened to the frantic efforts to post anti-anything-but-linux rants
Wha? We hate everything. Most of all technology. Facebook, iphones, raspberry pi's, 3d printing, your favorite distro, medical technology, the maker movement, twitter, Nasa and Spacex, Arduinos, UAV's, gaming consoles... even Slashdot itself. We really like to hate Slashdot.
So tune in tomorrow, there will be plenty of bitching and whining about everything. It'll be very emo... I promise.
Joking aside, the problem with escrow in a situation like this is that it's extremely difficult, maybe even impossible to do. Trying to arbitrate over milestone descriptions is hard. Trying to do it for a bajillion projects with an equal number of people writing the proposals is even harder.
At the very least, Kickstarter would have to seriously ramp up their percentage (they get 5% and the rest goes to Amazon for payment processing) multiply their staff, and get ready to deal with the bad press that comes with that kind of work. And now they'd have lost their, "we're just a collection service" veil.
Right now all they have to do is a little policing, keep the servers running, and collect their 5%. The responsibility for making a wise, casual investment in a project that may not pan out is entirely on you.
This is weird... I don't think Google was mentioned in the summary at all.
But regardless, they're not operating with a list of approved senders. I build my own systems and send mail through them all the time. Sometimes just regular mail service, some for mass emailing (legally and legitimately). You'll have to take my word that I don't have super-secret inside contacts at Google, Yahoo and Microsoft to make sure this works.
Now if you meant to say they have anti-spam filters that occasionally throw false-positives and block mass emails from some domains I'd say, "Well no shit, welcome to email on the internet since the 90's".
Slashdot Mirror
The first and third don't seem to offer much on this, but I think the second probably called out the thing worth debating here, unless there's been more on the subject since:
Nociception vs. Pain
From Jane A. Smith's "A Question of Pain in Invertebrates":
Invertebrates, it seems, exhibit nociceptive responses analogous to those shown by vertebrates. They can detect and respond to noxious stimuli, and in some cases, these responses can be modified by opioid substances. However, in humans, at least, there is a distinction to be made between the "registering" of a noxious stimulus and the "experience" of pain. In humans, pain "may be seen as the response of the whole awake conscious organism to noxious stimuli, seated.., at the highest levels in the central nervous system, involving emotional and other psychological components" (Iggo, 1984). Experiments on decorticate mammals have shown that complex, though stereotyped, motor responses to noxious stimuli may occur in the absence of consciousness and, therefore, of pain (Iggo, 1984). Thus, it is possible that invertebrates' responses to noxious stimuli (and modifications of these responses) could be simple reflexes, occurring without the animals being aware of experiencing something unpleasant, that is, without "suffering" something akin to what humans call pain.
[...] What evidence might help in distinguishing between nociceptive "responsiveness" and the perception of pain? [...]
In mammals, responses to painful stimuli often persist beyond a simple reflex withdrawal, so that, for example, the animals may become immobile, limp or "guard" the affected part, show aggression when approached, reduce or stop feeding and drinking, and show decreased sexual activity (Morton and Griffiths, 1985). The animals may also learn in the future to avoid situations similar to the one in which the pain occurred. Such responses, while not proof that the animals have experienced pain, can indicate that something more than a simple nociceptive reflex is involved. Together, they may help the animal to recover from damage caused by the painful event and avoid being harmed in the future.
I'm not the person you responded to, but I thought it was worth mentioning that your English is better than many native speakers, and I wouldn't have known it's your second or third language if you hadn't said so.
Expression Web is a Dreamweaver knockoff.
Expression Blend is a XAML UI designer for WPF/Silverlight
Expression Design is for vector (and raster) design
Expression Encoder is a screen recorder and modest editor
The suites have been part of the BizSpark and DreamSpark programs for a while now.
It sounds like the budget is somewhere around $35. Though that would be a pretty nice present.
There are levels of stupidity which are inaccessible for most people.
Challenge accepted!
I think the goal here is to fix that, but credit where credit's due, I laughed.
Spiders hate it when someone shows their unfinished work.
It looks like they're just pounding out ho-hum NAS boxes like the old Buffalo terastations, and a few rackmount storage servers.
We had an earlier generation iomega rackmount at work. I swear it was there before I got there. The thing was a miserable clusterfuck of bad hardware and software choices. I'd be surprised if they're much better at it now.
I guess it makes sense though. It doesn't make a lot of sense to go into high end storage equipment with a name you see on a Best Buy shelf, and there's not much in the way of unique storage solutions in the home user market.
Most people would just use something like Tor (or Tor and another VPN/proxy service).
Erm... the transport doesn't matter if you're analyzing message composition.
Wasn't this part of what that Barr guy was doing to try to figure out who members of Anonymous were? I think I read recently that he turned out to be right about the one that ran to Canada.
I don't disagree... it's fair point. I'd just say it's excusable to refer to it either way.
This reminds me a bit of those Navajo (and other Native American) "code talkers", though I think they did employ some modest obfuscation on top of the languages.
I suppose so, but only as much as "wtf", "lol", and "brb" could be considered encrypted communications.
I think it's pretty neat that the history buff figured out what it was, complete with historical context of who sent it, from where, what he was doing, etc. That's what makes that stuff interesting.
I'm not sure that disagrees with what I was saying. But no matter, I agree that a slightly nicer model would be nice. I'm just not upset that they released the one they said they would before working on a fancier one.
I know a lot of people have been making noise about wanting a Model C since the beginning. I imagine they'll get around to it, and then people will gripe that it's either too expensive or not as good as their gaming rig. ;)
Nah, Canadians are the best. We'd probably do just as well to invite them over for beer anyways.
I would too. But the goal was always for a $25 computer that's a useful, low cost learning tool. You can't fault them for actually making that happen.
Right. People like Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk. They're just dummies that haven't thought about it enough, or maybe they're just not good with numbers or technology. Why would we even consider the possibility of leaving this rock if we can't manage more than a year or so off-planet right now? Obviously you're right, it's impossible, and everyone else is wrong.
Or just maybe petitioning for a Death Star has absolutely nothing to do with seriously considering the possibility of living somewhere other than earth, and it might be possible. If you listen to some people much smarter than you or me, possibly even in our lifetime.
Beyond that, why so angry about people having dreams of space? Take a deep breath.
I have a couple of both.
You're right, an e-reader of the simple sort is better than a tablet for reading in a number of ways. Epaper (are we still calling it that?) is easier to read, assuming you have a light source in or near the reader. Managing the device is obviously simple... updates are pretty rare. Battery life far exceeds a tablet. They're usually much more compact. They're simple to operate and they're less expensive.
That said, I rarely use mine anymore. It's just simpler to carry around the tablet that will do whatever I want. And they've come down in price now so much that some are pretty competitively priced, compared to an ereader.
So yeah, I think tablets will all but kill the reader market. As with most tech the readers won't go away entirely. At least not for a good, long while.
I live outside Chicago, which has always had some of the strictest gun control in the nation, nestled within a large county with pretty strict gun control, and is frequently named Murder Capital of the US. It's been like that so long that people now joke (unfunny though it sounds) that they ought to just move to sunny Juarez, or maybe Mogadishu. A year or two ago they were kicking around the idea of calling in the national guard to police the streets. I swear I'm not making this up.
Gun control laws just don't matter. It's a distraction. Violent crime generally comes with poverty in densely populated areas.
And yes, nutters like this horrible thing today are exceptions to that. You'll always have horrible stuff like the 22 children in the stabbing spree in China today, the 2011 Norway attacks, Unibomber types, etc.
'Nuff said, really.
In other words, people seize upon others' emotional distress in order to advance their own partisan agenda. Is that about right?
Absolutely this. And yes, I'd be willing to admit that it happens in both directions... including the side I tend to agree with.
I suppose the catch here is that this will be part of the national discourse. My guess is if I turned on the TV right now, there'd already be some pretty nasty and untimely arguments raging.
And which side can really be expected to ignore all baiting and leave it off the table for now? It's always a hot topic, and something painful like this acts as an emotional multiplier for both sides.
It just sucks. I wish it hadn't happened and I feel for every single one of them.
That's just wrong. Everything our species uses to kill, beyond our most primitive firearms and explosives, involves computers designed for killing. And it's easy to argue that the purpose is more explicit in those computers than you can say a metal tube has a motive.
But the original point was irrelevant either way.
As is mentioned in every argument on the subject, we've tried thousands of gun laws in this country, from little silly ones to outright bans, at local, state, and even federal levels. They don't work.
It turns out that people do horrible things for reasons wholly disconnected from gun legislation and without regard for what's legal. But we keep looking to these ridiculous laws as simple fixes, or at least as a little security theater, at the expense of 47% of the US population and everyone's right to defend themselves from the very things we're trying to fix.
But god forbid we do something difficult but useful, like address poverty in our largest cities. If anyone were genuinely concerned about the number of violent crimes in our country they'd start there, and wouldn't move on to stupid stuff like gun laws until that was well and truly solved.
Whatever happened to the frantic efforts to post anti-anything-but-linux rants
Wha? We hate everything. Most of all technology. Facebook, iphones, raspberry pi's, 3d printing, your favorite distro, medical technology, the maker movement, twitter, Nasa and Spacex, Arduinos, UAV's, gaming consoles... even Slashdot itself. We really like to hate Slashdot.
So tune in tomorrow, there will be plenty of bitching and whining about everything. It'll be very emo... I promise.
Being posted on Hacker News and Reddit and a few other sites probably had a much larger impact. Slashdot ceased being relevant about a decade ago.
I see statcounter in the page source. I'd guess they know where their traffic is coming from.
Not so fast there, Mr. Jobs. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_funding#History
Joking aside, the problem with escrow in a situation like this is that it's extremely difficult, maybe even impossible to do. Trying to arbitrate over milestone descriptions is hard. Trying to do it for a bajillion projects with an equal number of people writing the proposals is even harder.
At the very least, Kickstarter would have to seriously ramp up their percentage (they get 5% and the rest goes to Amazon for payment processing) multiply their staff, and get ready to deal with the bad press that comes with that kind of work. And now they'd have lost their, "we're just a collection service" veil.
Right now all they have to do is a little policing, keep the servers running, and collect their 5%. The responsibility for making a wise, casual investment in a project that may not pan out is entirely on you.
That's not what he was suggesting. Reread the post you replied to carefully.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised but wikipedia has it covered, well in excess of Linda Stradley's history and legends post, there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza
Yes, there's a whole separate entry for the history bits.
This is weird... I don't think Google was mentioned in the summary at all.
But regardless, they're not operating with a list of approved senders. I build my own systems and send mail through them all the time. Sometimes just regular mail service, some for mass emailing (legally and legitimately). You'll have to take my word that I don't have super-secret inside contacts at Google, Yahoo and Microsoft to make sure this works.
Now if you meant to say they have anti-spam filters that occasionally throw false-positives and block mass emails from some domains I'd say, "Well no shit, welcome to email on the internet since the 90's".