Because, ignorant one, before 9/11 the threat was different. Prior to 9/11 every single instance where control was violently seized from the pilots it was to hijack the plane & take the passengers hostage. Pilots were trained to go along with any threat that they judged placed the life of one of their passengers in jeopardy because in the long run even if they blew up the plane as they did in Beirut, passenger safety was primordial. When the 9/11 terrorists showed that they were willing to die with everyone else on the plane, the threat (& thus techniques for mitigating it) changed.
Whitehouse.gov was taken out by a DDOS before being updated to it's current configuration.
Problem: DDOS.
Solution chosen: Highly redundant servers & links. (My reality)
Solution NOT chosen: A policy statement by GWB proposing that URPF needs to be deployed globally followed up by meetings with other leaders in which this subject is discussed. (Your reality, apparently. The issue was heads of state getting involved.)
Even with URPF installed globally, a widely distributed botnet will still be able to prosecute DDOS attacks. URPF mitigates attacks where A is spoofing source addresses not on it's LAN, it does nothing when a bot is sending legitimate traffic from everyone on it's/24.
You are the one proposing to impose URPF on a global scale as a solution using taxation as an inducement. You need to show where the willpower is on a global scale to implement it.
Your examples prove my point, not yours! Whitehouse.gov shrugs off current DDOS attacks by having distributed servers and net access points, not by trying to mandate that every ISP around the world implement trunk level IP filters on all outgoing traffic.
Other countries would be interested but no-one feels it to be globally feasible except you. There will be no widespread deployment because, as I've repeatedly informed you, unless DDOS attacks worsen greatly, it's useless partially deployed.
There is precisely zero chance of it getting implemented on a wide enough scale to be of any use unless DDOS attacks come back in force & start affecting more than a minor corner of the net like Estonia. Unless DDOS attacks become such a problem that heads of states need to get involved it'll never get deployed widely enough. Even it the US used it globally, the Net has grown so far beyond it's US centric origins that that would be a mere finger in the dike.
Given that botnet "owners" earn more spamming, I don't see it happening.
If there was a symbol for all US soldiers that died in combat, that marked their graves in another country, and that country would then decided to just move it somewhere else, because they want to put a highway on top of that last resting place... Would Americans grin and bear it?
No, they would pay for the repatriation of the bodies so that they could be buried on US soil just as they have been doing for the past 40 years in VietNam/Cambodia/Laos. If The country where they died is willing to keep the war graves & family in the USA do not want to repatriate them, the USA pays for part of the upkeep of the cemetery as they have been doing for the last 90 years for WWI & WWII war graves in western Europe. When, as has occured in a number of instances here in France, some graves need to be deplaced (A few of the WWI war graves were small & in inconvenient spots -- the remains were moved to a larger war cemetery or once again repatriated), the US has helped pay.
Contrast that with your reaction to the deplacement of a Russian war hero statue that Russia installed in a foreign countries heart. Russia's reaction is one of revanchism where you want to reconquer the "lost" territories much like France did from 1870-1918.
TFA isn't detailed enough to tell us all how much of the attack was spoofed from sources in Russia & how much was from botnets. In any case the use of a large enough botnet with bots distributed throughout the internet will neuter URPF. When bots use their own IP addresses (or addresses from neighboring machines on the same LAN), URPF loses it's utility.
I've heard of people who setup an asterisk server to take care of all their junk Fax/telephone calls. As asterisk can filter calls based on caller-ID, friends & family are passed through without encumbrance. All other calls get picked up by asterisk which shunts Fax calls off to a fax line or can store the faxes locally so that you can filter out the spam later.
Stupid Mods...:-) GP was Off Topic, not Flamebait.
No need to fear for my Karma. As it was posted without using a karma bonus, modding the GP down has no effect on karma.
Go with God, friend
TFA is about how severely curtailing caloric input extends lifespan. It mentions someone who eats very little for breakfast, nothing for lunch & a normal meal for dinner.
As you didn't mention that the only similarity between someone who severely limits his caloric intake & muslims during ramadan is that they do not eat during the day, most people who were ignorant of Islam would mistakenly believe that caloric input goes down when it is practiced. As that is certainly not the case, I felt that a correction was needed.
Your getting moderated +5 proves my point. Do you honestly think that "Hey people in my religion don't eat during the day just like the guy in the article" deserves the mod points it received?
Not eating/drinking while the sun is up has little to do with a low calorie diet.
Most of my colleagues who follow ramadan actually gain weight during it as they eat copiously of high calorie food while the sun is down. A big breakfast to tide you through the day & a big, though late, dinner annihilates any gain you might get by not eating during the day.
You cannot get off the hook by stating" Iran's threats are for internal consumption" as they encourage terrorists everywhere. Much as South Africa's apartheid rhetoric was damaging for the rest of Africa, Iran's diatribes are unacceptable.
You omit to recognize that Iran has overtly waged war by proxy through Hezbollah, an entity that has already committed acts of war against the US & Israel.
The US went after a pariah state after it broke the terms of a cease fire after raping & pillaging a US ally neighbor state. If Israel invades Egypt, Jordan or SA, then the conditions start looking comparable, but until then comparing the two only shows that you're a fool.
I'm no friend of Israel, btw. I think that they should have tried much harder to make peace with the palestinians after GW1 exchanging land for a promise of peace. Given the extremists on both sides, success was by no means assured, but it was the best chance in decades.
Pull your head out of your ass, AC. There is a huge difference between the statements of an IQ impoverished entity such as yourself and those of a head of state. Iran's head of state has repeatedly threatened Israel, the US, and any other state that doesn't ascribe to his dogma.
Who modded this tripe insightful? Iran has repeatedly threatened & the US with destruction either directly or through it's avowed support of hezbollah.
Yes. Scan the barcode, follow the menus to vote, use the attached stylus to record your stylus & you're done. Can handicapped users use them? That's a better question, but then I also think that the current paper ballots should be kept ready as a backup system for exceptional cases.
Would a member of the poll station in a rural area need 3 month training to troubleshoot the machines?
Will the rural poll station force it's voters to wait over 30 minutes if turnout is high using the current system? If the answer is no then we don't need to fix what already works. However, if voters have to wait over an hour, something needs to be fixed or turnout will go down (which, I assume we both agree, is not what we want). It could be redistricting the polling stations so that fewer people are each district using the same paper ballots as today, but that has major costs associated with it as well. Or, it could be to setup the system I described & deliver the number of voting stations needed.
Using electronic voting machines is clearly not a panacea, but using the system I described, the vote roll validation is the only major slowdown. If more voter thruput is needed, add voting stations. As described, it needs one central post for voter registration that has a POS printer capable of printing barcodes, a switch, and the voting stations. Setup should be as easy as plugging everything together & validating the voting stations with the central unit. I don't think that that should take 3 months even for goat herders in l'Ardeche...
I suspected as much. The signature of the voter rolls needs to be parallelized as well or, as you mentioned, using a machine gains nothing.
An idea I had would be for the initial vote roll people to hand you a small receipt that has a codebar printed on it. The codebars are dynamically generated and are only valid a few minutes. Once you have your receipt, you could go to any free machine & scan your receipt to initiate a session. This would revoke the session from working on all the other machines. To validate your vote, you would need to sign on the screen much as you do when signing for a package from UPS/Fedex. Once you've signed on the machine, you would be free to go.
The use of different machines & networks to interconnect them adds sync/validation problems but these are well known & can be solved.
Of course, I'd only trust the system if all the code was published and audited freely as the voting machine now knows who is voting so that it can store the signature as well as just tallying up the votes.
Would you mind explaining the different steps you had to take & note where the slowdowns are because tasks are still serialized? I get the impression they they kept some steps that were necessary in the old system but need to be optimized out/parallelized if electronic voting machines are to streamline the process & not gum it up.
I waited for a half an hour because I went in at 8 AM. Going in early also meant that I was called on to count the vote.
Our polling station still uses paper ballots, so the time it took depended on the turnout & not on any machines. As we let everyone vote who was in line at 8 PM, we had to wait until 10 PM to start counting. While waiting, I asked the president of the polling station what the average time was. His answer: 90 minutes on average.
A +2 hour wait was not exceptional.
The major time consumer when waiting is, as always, the verification of the voting rolls which is done by reading a long listing of registered voters. It can take them up to a minute to find your name when you forgot your voters registration card.
As there is no paper trail & the code is not open sourced I wouldn't want to use the machines they used in the areas around Paris where they used electronic voting machines. However, the wait had nothing to do with their use or non-use.
Some parts of my MP3 collection did not come from my own CDs. In some cases, I still have the vinyl or tape & I borrowed a CD in order to get a decent digital copy. When I did so a few years ago, I ripped at 192kb/s. All recent rips have been at 256kb/s. At some point I will certainly want to procure the music of my older MP3s again in digital form to get higher bitrate copies than those I have at present. If this digital form is subject to DRM or in a format which is in a low bitrate format, such as DRMed 128kb/s AAC, I'll continue to pass. 256kb/s unprotected AACs do not have the drawbacks that the current iTunes files have.
Voyez-vous ce que je veux dire désormais ou devrais-je utiliser de plus petits mots?
Lots of good reasons to avoid DRM, but saying you wont touch 128 kb/s AAC when you use 192 kb/s MP3 isn't a good one. The quality would be similar.
You misunderstood/I wasn't clear enough.
128 kb/s AAC may be OK by itself, but the slimbox cannot read DRM protected AAC files (& iTunes AAC files were thus useless as-is for me up to now). To listen on a slimbox, the 128 kb/s AAC files must be decoded into WAVs (by ripping them into CDs), then (because my HD space is finite) reripped into MP3s. This second lossy conversion usually produces hearable artifacts even when the MP3 conversion uses high bitrates.
Now that the AAC files are unprotected, I should be able to use them as is.
My current music collection is high quality MP3s (192-256Kbit) I've ripped myself which I listen to on Slimboxes connected to quality speakers.
I never bought any music from iTunes because:
- Apple's DRM protected files were too low quality for me to bother with (I would have to rip to CD then reencode to MP3 which usually meant hearable artifacts.)
- DRM meant that the music I bought would never be 100% protected from "upgrades" forced on me by the RIAA (much as Apple already reduced the number of authorized hosts).
- I've already bought the same album in 3 formats: Vinyl, Tape, & CD. I refuse to pay a fourth time unless I am sure that it would be the last time.
I'm not overenthused about the premium over itunes normal pricing, but there appears to be enough goodness in this announce to finally get me onboard.
Iliad, the parent company of Free.fr announced here that they will be spending a billion Euros to deploy fiber to the home throughout Paris during 2007 & 2008. This network will be deployed using Paris' sewers. As most of Paris is 5-6 stories tall, the sewer access for each building is appropriately large. The sewers themselves serve as storm drains and are usually accessible to sanitation workers. There are around a thousand sanitation workers who are down there anyway to maintain this vital service, so, scatological jokes aside, using the sewers to distribute networks this way is the cheapest & smartest means of deployment in a city like Paris.
I can't wait to get my 50Mbit upload & download, unlimited telephone to the USA & other countries & multiple TV decoders for 30 a month...
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Because, ignorant one, before 9/11 the threat was different. Prior to 9/11 every single instance where control was violently seized from the pilots it was to hijack the plane & take the passengers hostage. Pilots were trained to go along with any threat that they judged placed the life of one of their passengers in jeopardy because in the long run even if they blew up the plane as they did in Beirut, passenger safety was primordial. When the 9/11 terrorists showed that they were willing to die with everyone else on the plane, the threat (& thus techniques for mitigating it) changed.
Whitehouse.gov was taken out by a DDOS before being updated to it's current configuration.
/24.
Problem: DDOS.
Solution chosen: Highly redundant servers & links. (My reality)
Solution NOT chosen: A policy statement by GWB proposing that URPF needs to be deployed globally followed up by meetings with other leaders in which this subject is discussed. (Your reality, apparently. The issue was heads of state getting involved.)
Even with URPF installed globally, a widely distributed botnet will still be able to prosecute DDOS attacks. URPF mitigates attacks where A is spoofing source addresses not on it's LAN, it does nothing when a bot is sending legitimate traffic from everyone on it's
You are the one proposing to impose URPF on a global scale as a solution using taxation as an inducement. You need to show where the willpower is on a global scale to implement it.
Your examples prove my point, not yours! Whitehouse.gov shrugs off current DDOS attacks by having distributed servers and net access points, not by trying to mandate that every ISP around the world implement trunk level IP filters on all outgoing traffic.
Other countries would be interested but no-one feels it to be globally feasible except you. There will be no widespread deployment because, as I've repeatedly informed you, unless DDOS attacks worsen greatly, it's useless partially deployed.
There is precisely zero chance of it getting implemented on a wide enough scale to be of any use unless DDOS attacks come back in force & start affecting more than a minor corner of the net like Estonia. Unless DDOS attacks become such a problem that heads of states need to get involved it'll never get deployed widely enough. Even it the US used it globally, the Net has grown so far beyond it's US centric origins that that would be a mere finger in the dike.
Given that botnet "owners" earn more spamming, I don't see it happening.
No, they would pay for the repatriation of the bodies so that they could be buried on US soil just as they have been doing for the past 40 years in VietNam/Cambodia/Laos. If The country where they died is willing to keep the war graves & family in the USA do not want to repatriate them, the USA pays for part of the upkeep of the cemetery as they have been doing for the last 90 years for WWI & WWII war graves in western Europe. When, as has occured in a number of instances here in France, some graves need to be deplaced (A few of the WWI war graves were small & in inconvenient spots -- the remains were moved to a larger war cemetery or once again repatriated), the US has helped pay.
Contrast that with your reaction to the deplacement of a Russian war hero statue that Russia installed in a foreign countries heart. Russia's reaction is one of revanchism where you want to reconquer the "lost" territories much like France did from 1870-1918.
TFA isn't detailed enough to tell us all how much of the attack was spoofed from sources in Russia & how much was from botnets. In any case the use of a large enough botnet with bots distributed throughout the internet will neuter URPF. When bots use their own IP addresses (or addresses from neighboring machines on the same LAN), URPF loses it's utility.
Wouldn't Novell's deal with Microsoft render anything Novell contributes useless against Free softwares biggest enemy: AKA Microsoft?
I've heard of people who setup an asterisk server to take care of all their junk Fax/telephone calls. As asterisk can filter calls based on caller-ID, friends & family are passed through without encumbrance. All other calls get picked up by asterisk which shunts Fax calls off to a fax line or can store the faxes locally so that you can filter out the spam later.
Oh, yes it is possible, newbie. Read the other posts in this thread to learn how...
Stupid Mods... :-) GP was Off Topic, not Flamebait.
No need to fear for my Karma. As it was posted without using a karma bonus, modding the GP down has no effect on karma.
Go with God, friend
TFA is about how severely curtailing caloric input extends lifespan. It mentions someone who eats very little for breakfast, nothing for lunch & a normal meal for dinner. As you didn't mention that the only similarity between someone who severely limits his caloric intake & muslims during ramadan is that they do not eat during the day, most people who were ignorant of Islam would mistakenly believe that caloric input goes down when it is practiced. As that is certainly not the case, I felt that a correction was needed. Your getting moderated +5 proves my point. Do you honestly think that "Hey people in my religion don't eat during the day just like the guy in the article" deserves the mod points it received?
Not eating/drinking while the sun is up has little to do with a low calorie diet.
Most of my colleagues who follow ramadan actually gain weight during it as they eat copiously of high calorie food while the sun is down. A big breakfast to tide you through the day & a big, though late, dinner annihilates any gain you might get by not eating during the day.
You cannot get off the hook by stating" Iran's threats are for internal consumption" as they encourage terrorists everywhere. Much as South Africa's apartheid rhetoric was damaging for the rest of Africa, Iran's diatribes are unacceptable. You omit to recognize that Iran has overtly waged war by proxy through Hezbollah, an entity that has already committed acts of war against the US & Israel. The US went after a pariah state after it broke the terms of a cease fire after raping & pillaging a US ally neighbor state. If Israel invades Egypt, Jordan or SA, then the conditions start looking comparable, but until then comparing the two only shows that you're a fool. I'm no friend of Israel, btw. I think that they should have tried much harder to make peace with the palestinians after GW1 exchanging land for a promise of peace. Given the extremists on both sides, success was by no means assured, but it was the best chance in decades.
Pull your head out of your ass, AC. There is a huge difference between the statements of an IQ impoverished entity such as yourself and those of a head of state. Iran's head of state has repeatedly threatened Israel, the US, and any other state that doesn't ascribe to his dogma.
Using electronic voting machines is clearly not a panacea, but using the system I described, the vote roll validation is the only major slowdown. If more voter thruput is needed, add voting stations. As described, it needs one central post for voter registration that has a POS printer capable of printing barcodes, a switch, and the voting stations. Setup should be as easy as plugging everything together & validating the voting stations with the central unit. I don't think that that should take 3 months even for goat herders in l'Ardeche...
I suspected as much. The signature of the voter rolls needs to be parallelized as well or, as you mentioned, using a machine gains nothing.
An idea I had would be for the initial vote roll people to hand you a small receipt that has a codebar printed on it. The codebars are dynamically generated and are only valid a few minutes. Once you have your receipt, you could go to any free machine & scan your receipt to initiate a session. This would revoke the session from working on all the other machines. To validate your vote, you would need to sign on the screen much as you do when signing for a package from UPS/Fedex. Once you've signed on the machine, you would be free to go.
The use of different machines & networks to interconnect them adds sync/validation problems but these are well known & can be solved.
Of course, I'd only trust the system if all the code was published and audited freely as the voting machine now knows who is voting so that it can store the signature as well as just tallying up the votes.
Would you mind explaining the different steps you had to take & note where the slowdowns are because tasks are still serialized? I get the impression they they kept some steps that were necessary in the old system but need to be optimized out/parallelized if electronic voting machines are to streamline the process & not gum it up.
I waited for a half an hour because I went in at 8 AM. Going in early also meant that I was called on to count the vote.
Our polling station still uses paper ballots, so the time it took depended on the turnout & not on any machines. As we let everyone vote who was in line at 8 PM, we had to wait until 10 PM to start counting. While waiting, I asked the president of the polling station what the average time was. His answer: 90 minutes on average.
A +2 hour wait was not exceptional.
The major time consumer when waiting is, as always, the verification of the voting rolls which is done by reading a long listing of registered voters. It can take them up to a minute to find your name when you forgot your voters registration card.
As there is no paper trail & the code is not open sourced I wouldn't want to use the machines they used in the areas around Paris where they used electronic voting machines. However, the wait had nothing to do with their use or non-use.
IBM hosts grocklaw. All you'd learn by tracing grocklaw's IP is that it is hosted by IBM.
MOD PARENT UP! These are intelligent questions that need to be answered.
Some parts of my MP3 collection did not come from my own CDs. In some cases, I still have the vinyl or tape & I borrowed a CD in order to get a decent digital copy. When I did so a few years ago, I ripped at 192kb/s. All recent rips have been at 256kb/s. At some point I will certainly want to procure the music of my older MP3s again in digital form to get higher bitrate copies than those I have at present. If this digital form is subject to DRM or in a format which is in a low bitrate format, such as DRMed 128kb/s AAC, I'll continue to pass. 256kb/s unprotected AACs do not have the drawbacks that the current iTunes files have.
Voyez-vous ce que je veux dire désormais ou devrais-je utiliser de plus petits mots?
You misunderstood/I wasn't clear enough.
128 kb/s AAC may be OK by itself, but the slimbox cannot read DRM protected AAC files (& iTunes AAC files were thus useless as-is for me up to now). To listen on a slimbox, the 128 kb/s AAC files must be decoded into WAVs (by ripping them into CDs), then (because my HD space is finite) reripped into MP3s. This second lossy conversion usually produces hearable artifacts even when the MP3 conversion uses high bitrates.
Now that the AAC files are unprotected, I should be able to use them as is.
My current music collection is high quality MP3s (192-256Kbit) I've ripped myself which I listen to on Slimboxes connected to quality speakers.
I never bought any music from iTunes because:
- Apple's DRM protected files were too low quality for me to bother with (I would have to rip to CD then reencode to MP3 which usually meant hearable artifacts.)
- DRM meant that the music I bought would never be 100% protected from "upgrades" forced on me by the RIAA (much as Apple already reduced the number of authorized hosts).
- I've already bought the same album in 3 formats: Vinyl, Tape, & CD. I refuse to pay a fourth time unless I am sure that it would be the last time.
I'm not overenthused about the premium over itunes normal pricing, but there appears to be enough goodness in this announce to finally get me onboard.
Iliad, the parent company of Free.fr announced here that they will be spending a billion Euros to deploy fiber to the home throughout Paris during 2007 & 2008. This network will be deployed using Paris' sewers. As most of Paris is 5-6 stories tall, the sewer access for each building is appropriately large. The sewers themselves serve as storm drains and are usually accessible to sanitation workers. There are around a thousand sanitation workers who are down there anyway to maintain this vital service, so, scatological jokes aside, using the sewers to distribute networks this way is the cheapest & smartest means of deployment in a city like Paris.
I can't wait to get my 50Mbit upload & download, unlimited telephone to the USA & other countries & multiple TV decoders for 30 a month...