Using just the numbers in the summary and assuming it is a simple loan with $99.00 down, $284 financed, and treating the $74.00 difference as interest, the interest rate is roughly 13%. That is the same or better than many credit cards. Before you start storming the walls, check out what the interest rate would be if you put it on your credit card or a no documentation, no credit check loan.
And, remember, you can't pay a penalty and be rid of a loan and keep the device. The device would be collateral and if you defaulted on the loan, they would come and take it back and keep all the money you had paid thus far.
Really, this isn't a bad deal considering the alternative financing available.
You and I know that. Joe User doesn't. Joe User, assuming he knows anything about Linux, knows that what is the Best Linux(tm) changes every year or so.
I am comfortable with all the OSes you have mentioned and I very rarely recommend Linux. I only recommend Linux to people spend 90+% of their time using the web and not installed applications and to people who enjoy solving their own problems with web searches. Power users who are happy with an OS recommend an OS that the person they are talking to will be comfortable with otherwise said power users will get both the blame and the support requests.
No, dumbass, he is lying by misrepresentation and you are just another Linux zealot. Whether you like it or not, his numbers are only impressive in a tiny population, such as the little hick town my relatives live in. And, even there it is not very impressive as it would represent barely 10% of the population.
I have installed too many systems to count because I have worked on and overseen the conversion of a military base and a small company from a centralized client/server to a distributed networked processing model. How many have YOU personally installed for others? Do you even work in IT?
It is always amusing when a clueless asshole calls me a jerk.
Again, you don't say how many people and business are in your area. You say you have done "quite a bit of migrations", but that rings hollow when you won't give any indication of the size of the population. You "exact numbers" are meaningless without a population with which to compare them. If you are doing freelance computer support for them, perhaps you should have taught them how to avoid malware instead of selling them on Linux.
Basically, your numbers are worthless because they could represent 75% of the population of.001% of the population. Seeing as a "mid-sized town" can have from 20,000 to 200,000 people, 324 people isn't as impressive as you hope or try to make it sound.
You just did the exact same thing and didn't answer my questions.
If you have 300 res and 20+ business customers in a market of 30,000 res and 2,000 business customers, then your numbers simply suck. By not providing any information about the market you exist in, your numbers are worthless. It is like saying one has 20 fish when there are 10,000 fish available.
I think you're overstating the importance of Office. My wife uses Ubuntu as her main desktop, and exchanges documents with people who use office every day. She claims she has very little trouble.
Let your wife work for a large company and have that little trouble pop up a few times and have it get back to her boss. It will be 'Use Microsoft Office, or we will find someone who will."
If you want to install some software on Linux, you bring up the package manager, select the software you want,
And, if you don't find it in the package manager? What if you know you need a kind of software, but don't have a name? What if you install the software and it isn't compatible with the file you have received or the person you send a file to says it is corrupted?
Again, I think you're overstating this problem.
If that is the case why do you go on to agree with the poster?
What is your neck of the woods? How many residential and business desktop/laptops are there total and what is the percentage of Linux installs to Windows and Windows/Mac PCs? Do you know if any migrate back to Windows or migrate from Linux to Mac? If so, how do you know and how many have done so?
And, Joe User at home? What about the other market. And, really, you are suggesting that what is actually a work-around is a workable general solution. Making apps available via Citrix does not solve the problem, especially if there is an issue with the Citrix server or network.
Several years ago, everyone was on the RedHat/Fedora bandwagon. A year or two ago, it was Ubuntu. Now, it is Mint that all my coworkers are playing with and is the flavor of the week. What will it be next time? Some distro that no one has heard of yet? And, when one recommends Ubuntu, someone else will recommend Mint, or Red Hat. That is a serious problem.
You may have a point with bundling, but you are way off base when it comes to the power user thing. Power users use what works and recommend what will work for the person asking. If they have problems with Linux, they aren't going to suggest it for the average or below average user.
And, for work culture, you forget that most business use popular, off-the-shelf software that most people either already know or for which the maker has spent a lot of time and money making an easy to use interface. What really kills Linux on the desktop is application and hardware support.
So, you are saying that secondary education is, in fact, under-educated, yes? You don't want to live in the U.S.A of today? Or, are you setting up a straw man?
Prove that a population consisting solely of college graduates most of whom are in debt from getting their degree(s) is better than one in which not everyone has a college education.
"Establishment, maintenance, and operation of institutions of higher learning" doesn't including tuitions support. Conversely, if you believe it does, why aren't institutes of higher learning also a part of the "high quality system of free public schools that allows students to obtain a high quality education"?
That doesn't answer my question. Explain why taxes should be going to pay for any tuition at all. I will see no benefit from it and neither will most people. You want to go to college, you want to get a degree, a degree costs money, so why shouldn't you ALL the cost as you will be reaping the benefits of your education? And, more importantly, why is tax money going to support degrees that will cost more than the seeker will be to pay off?
Well, skippy, I do vote and I don't go to university. I am a real adult. I actually work.
Sales, use, and property taxes are taxes and a portion of my taxes go to support the university system. Gas taxes go towards building and maintaing the roads. If you live in Florida, then you probably use the roads and bridges, enjoy the protections of the police and fire departments and all the other things you mentioned. If you don't live in Florida, your taxes don't go towards any of that.
What you didn't explain is why my taxes should go to something that will not benefit me or the rest of society. Explain why my and everyone else's tax dollars should go to paying someone's college tuition for an education that will benefit only that third person?
Hell, if you are so hell bent on giving your money to someone else, you can mail it to me.
Tuition is supposed to pay for the cost of schooling. Please explain why my taxes should pay for your schooling.
And, a better explanation is that the administration staff is overpaid. The president of UF makes $750,000 a year. That is more than the president of the country.
The president of UF gets a total annual compensation of $751,000. So, by cutting an entire department, they were able to save ~2.25 times the salary of the president of the university. How is it he is worth 44% of an entire department?
The title of this submission and the referrenced article is nothing less than a strawman troll. Richard Browne says nothing about terrorists. He is stating that developers and game producers will stop making off-line single player games if people keep re-selling used games. There have been a few articles in the recent past that had complaints from gamers about single player games requiring an internet connection, having critical content only available through download, etc. This is exactly what Browne is talking about.
Actually, the economy is divided into Public and Private sectors, and the Private sector is further divided into sectors.
Colloquial definitions are, to put it bluntly, worthless when talking about technical information. The use of colloquial definitions is the reason idiots like to say "Evolution is only a theory". They are using a colloquial definition rather than the technical definition.
As I recall, both people mentioned in the summary let it be known beforehand they were doing this to specifically prove people wrong. This, in my oh-so-humble opinion, is disingenuous.
Saying "Please pay for this and don't pirate it to show that DRM is not needed" and then saying "See, I made money so it is not needed" is a self-fulfilling prophecy made to happen by appealing to the self-interest of those who would pirate. What is happening is the content owner saying "Hey, if you pay me and don't pirate my stuff, I will tell everyone how DRM isn't really needed, thus helping you in the long run" and those that would normally pirate the content trading a small fee for celebrity publicity.
Doing something to fulfill a prophecy doesn't fulfill the prophecy.
Bullshit. Most people who were outraged by this are outraged because of media hype and nothing else. And you know what? If Martin had succeeded in beating Zimmerman's head in, he would have gotten away with it.
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when the residents felt the need to patrol their neighborhood because crimes were being committed and the police were ineffective in preventing and solving said crimes.
The only problem is that criminals are coddled by the system.
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Using just the numbers in the summary and assuming it is a simple loan with $99.00 down, $284 financed, and treating the $74.00 difference as interest, the interest rate is roughly 13%. That is the same or better than many credit cards. Before you start storming the walls, check out what the interest rate would be if you put it on your credit card or a no documentation, no credit check loan.
And, remember, you can't pay a penalty and be rid of a loan and keep the device. The device would be collateral and if you defaulted on the loan, they would come and take it back and keep all the money you had paid thus far.
Really, this isn't a bad deal considering the alternative financing available.
You and I know that. Joe User doesn't. Joe User, assuming he knows anything about Linux, knows that what is the Best Linux(tm) changes every year or so.
I am comfortable with all the OSes you have mentioned and I very rarely recommend Linux. I only recommend Linux to people spend 90+% of their time using the web and not installed applications and to people who enjoy solving their own problems with web searches. Power users who are happy with an OS recommend an OS that the person they are talking to will be comfortable with otherwise said power users will get both the blame and the support requests.
And I suggest you take Wil Wheaton's advice and stop being a dick.
No, dumbass, he is lying by misrepresentation and you are just another Linux zealot. Whether you like it or not, his numbers are only impressive in a tiny population, such as the little hick town my relatives live in. And, even there it is not very impressive as it would represent barely 10% of the population.
I have installed too many systems to count because I have worked on and overseen the conversion of a military base and a small company from a centralized client/server to a distributed networked processing model. How many have YOU personally installed for others? Do you even work in IT?
It is always amusing when a clueless asshole calls me a jerk.
Again, you don't say how many people and business are in your area. You say you have done "quite a bit of migrations", but that rings hollow when you won't give any indication of the size of the population. You "exact numbers" are meaningless without a population with which to compare them. If you are doing freelance computer support for them, perhaps you should have taught them how to avoid malware instead of selling them on Linux.
Basically, your numbers are worthless because they could represent 75% of the population of .001% of the population. Seeing as a "mid-sized town" can have from 20,000 to 200,000 people, 324 people isn't as impressive as you hope or try to make it sound.
You just did the exact same thing and didn't answer my questions.
If you have 300 res and 20+ business customers in a market of 30,000 res and 2,000 business customers, then your numbers simply suck. By not providing any information about the market you exist in, your numbers are worthless. It is like saying one has 20 fish when there are 10,000 fish available.
How do you know none of them have migrated back?
I think you're overstating the importance of Office. My wife uses Ubuntu as her main desktop, and exchanges documents with people who use office every day. She claims she has very little trouble.
Let your wife work for a large company and have that little trouble pop up a few times and have it get back to her boss. It will be 'Use Microsoft Office, or we will find someone who will."
If you want to install some software on Linux, you bring up the package manager, select the software you want,
And, if you don't find it in the package manager? What if you know you need a kind of software, but don't have a name? What if you install the software and it isn't compatible with the file you have received or the person you send a file to says it is corrupted?
Again, I think you're overstating this problem.
If that is the case why do you go on to agree with the poster?
What is your neck of the woods?
How many residential and business desktop/laptops are there total and what is the percentage of Linux installs to Windows and Windows/Mac PCs?
Do you know if any migrate back to Windows or migrate from Linux to Mac? If so, how do you know and how many have done so?
And, Joe User at home? What about the other market. And, really, you are suggesting that what is actually a work-around is a workable general solution. Making apps available via Citrix does not solve the problem, especially if there is an issue with the Citrix server or network.
Several years ago, everyone was on the RedHat/Fedora bandwagon. A year or two ago, it was Ubuntu. Now, it is Mint that all my coworkers are playing with and is the flavor of the week. What will it be next time? Some distro that no one has heard of yet? And, when one recommends Ubuntu, someone else will recommend Mint, or Red Hat. That is a serious problem.
You may have a point with bundling, but you are way off base when it comes to the power user thing. Power users use what works and recommend what will work for the person asking. If they have problems with Linux, they aren't going to suggest it for the average or below average user.
And, for work culture, you forget that most business use popular, off-the-shelf software that most people either already know or for which the maker has spent a lot of time and money making an easy to use interface. What really kills Linux on the desktop is application and hardware support.
So, you are skeptical of Red Hat and anything that says anything good about them, yes?
So, you are saying that secondary education is, in fact, under-educated, yes? You don't want to live in the U.S.A of today? Or, are you setting up a straw man?
Prove that a population consisting solely of college graduates most of whom are in debt from getting their degree(s) is better than one in which not everyone has a college education.
"Establishment, maintenance, and operation of institutions of higher learning" doesn't including tuitions support. Conversely, if you believe it does, why aren't institutes of higher learning also a part of the "high quality system of free public schools that allows students to obtain a high quality education"?
That doesn't answer my question. Explain why taxes should be going to pay for any tuition at all. I will see no benefit from it and neither will most people. You want to go to college, you want to get a degree, a degree costs money, so why shouldn't you ALL the cost as you will be reaping the benefits of your education? And, more importantly, why is tax money going to support degrees that will cost more than the seeker will be to pay off?
Well, skippy, I do vote and I don't go to university. I am a real adult. I actually work.
Sales, use, and property taxes are taxes and a portion of my taxes go to support the university system. Gas taxes go towards building and maintaing the roads. If you live in Florida, then you probably use the roads and bridges, enjoy the protections of the police and fire departments and all the other things you mentioned. If you don't live in Florida, your taxes don't go towards any of that.
What you didn't explain is why my taxes should go to something that will not benefit me or the rest of society. Explain why my and everyone else's tax dollars should go to paying someone's college tuition for an education that will benefit only that third person?
Hell, if you are so hell bent on giving your money to someone else, you can mail it to me.
Tuition is supposed to pay for the cost of schooling. Please explain why my taxes should pay for your schooling.
And, a better explanation is that the administration staff is overpaid. The president of UF makes $750,000 a year. That is more than the president of the country.
The president of UF gets a total annual compensation of $751,000. So, by cutting an entire department, they were able to save ~2.25 times the salary of the president of the university. How is it he is worth 44% of an entire department?
The title of this submission and the referrenced article is nothing less than a strawman troll. Richard Browne says nothing about terrorists. He is stating that developers and game producers will stop making off-line single player games if people keep re-selling used games. There have been a few articles in the recent past that had complaints from gamers about single player games requiring an internet connection, having critical content only available through download, etc. This is exactly what Browne is talking about.
Actually, the economy is divided into Public and Private sectors, and the Private sector is further divided into sectors.
Colloquial definitions are, to put it bluntly, worthless when talking about technical information. The use of colloquial definitions is the reason idiots like to say "Evolution is only a theory". They are using a colloquial definition rather than the technical definition.
As I recall, both people mentioned in the summary let it be known beforehand they were doing this to specifically prove people wrong. This, in my oh-so-humble opinion, is disingenuous.
Saying "Please pay for this and don't pirate it to show that DRM is not needed" and then saying "See, I made money so it is not needed" is a self-fulfilling prophecy made to happen by appealing to the self-interest of those who would pirate. What is happening is the content owner saying "Hey, if you pay me and don't pirate my stuff, I will tell everyone how DRM isn't really needed, thus helping you in the long run" and those that would normally pirate the content trading a small fee for celebrity publicity.
Doing something to fulfill a prophecy doesn't fulfill the prophecy.
Bullshit. Most people who were outraged by this are outraged because of media hype and nothing else. And you know what? If Martin had succeeded in beating Zimmerman's head in, he would have gotten away with it.
Zimmerman was well known for calling 911 to report black people as suspicious
Translation: I heard from a website that Zimmerman did something.
Martin was a drug using thief and so was a suspicious person who was creeping around a neighborhood.
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when the residents felt the need to patrol their neighborhood because crimes were being committed and the police were ineffective in preventing and solving said crimes.
The only problem is that criminals are coddled by the system.
Please site one incident where that has happened.
It's whether what you've heard has made you lean one way or the other.
There goes ever single black person I know and most, if not all, of the white people I know.