It would be useful (I think) to focus on how Linux with IBM solutions would compliment their existing AS/400 architecture. It's not generally a great idea to suggest that they scrap their existing applications and move wholesale to another OS or hardware platform.
The bottom line that they'll want to know is if it can save them money while offering an equivalent or (preferable) better service to themselves or their customers.
Focus on integration, scalability, flexibility and IBM's commitment to supporting the Linux arena.
The company I work for uses alot of open source software in it's development - both in terms off server side (linux, apache, etc) and for the application side (Tomcat, JServ, etc).
We don't use SAP-DB because:
Our clients break down into 2 camps - those who want cost-effective solutions (so we go down the open source route of Tomcat/MYSQL) and those who want brand-labelled solutions (so we use JRun/Oracle etc).
We need to limit our support base. Having gained skills in maintaining MYSQL, Oracle and [shudder] MS SQL Server adding another DB to that side makes life harder for us in the short to medium term.
Until this article I (and most of the developers here) hadn't heard of SAP-DB!
I dare say that if we had a pressing business case to learn the extra skill (i.e. we required some of it's fetures on a project that hadn't got the Oracle budget) then we'd consider it.
Then again there are other Dbs that would also cut it in that case too.
MYSQL has a big name in terms of Open Source software and that alone may prevent people from switching from it in favour of a less well known 'brand'.
It's a shame that these initiatives all ssem to be so narrow minded.
Even when they're actually good ideas (I'm not claiming that this is a good idea!) they're implemented on a country-by-country basis and so their use to the global Internet community is severely limited.
I didn't see anything that required the end users of the net in SA to register themselves though - just the providers of cryptographical solutions - so I think we're safe from complete user control for a few more months...
You seem to somehow think the Brazillian Government is just doing this and nothing else to combat AIDS. You're wrong - there is a whole program in place to combat the epidemic - education and treatment.
I agree that this is IP theft and that inventors should recieve fair reward for their innovation but it's fairly clear that the Brazillian Government were attempting to negotiate on good faith with Roche, they'd already come to terms with other companies to reduce the price. With the state of the AIDS epidemic Roce would more than make back R&D costs.
You have to remember that Brazil isn't a rich country like the US or the UK etc. They really can't afford to throw money at a problem to make it go away. They're not getting the drug for free either - they're saving 60% of the current cost.
It's not an ideal solution but I really think companies who develope important drugs have a responsibility to the people their drugs treat - without their suffering they'd have no profits!
Java doesn't stand or fall by inclusion in the browser, in fact very little serious Java coding is done in the form of Java based applets.
I'm a Java developer and all the projects I've worked on have focussed on server-side technologies (servlets, EJB, JSP and b-to-b services). I know how to write an applet but I'd need to have a book open to do it!
maybe the governmant should sue the parents for not caring enough to bring up well-adjusted children.
It's obvious that they are guilty of negligence for not protecting the world from their offspring.
PS I _know_ it's a little more complicated than that but I thinkn it's the basic underlying fact that the parent's (and many other parents) don't want to face up to.
I saw a really interesting documentary a few weeks ago about the planet's temperature cycles. One of the most interesting things is that they couldn't use ice core samples to go back in time because... the polar ice hasn't always ben there and they wanted to go back further than that (a mere million years or so (iirc)!
We're currently in the middle of an ice-age and the planet went for 15 million years without them at all. It seems as though the changes in temperature are largely effected by the angle of the earth to the sun and solar activity. There's still no firm evidence that climatic change has been caused by us and polution although we may have altered the rate of change slightly.
Still it's no excuse for us to be complacent - pollutants in the atmosphere and on the ground a re generally bad news for us all. One interesting point of note - research into greener forms of transport has been increaced recently not due to environmental concerns but because OPEC has the rest of the world (quite literally) over a barrel!
True, but it does seem to me that the strength of Linux (and other open sourced projects) is that anyone can make contributions and aid the developer.
Who should the onus lie with in this situation, PPC users or those writing the central kernel? Linus does have an obligation to the people who use Linux. It's his own damn fault - it's the price you pay for writing something that has become so popular!
I know it may seem pedantic but we do know of dead civilisations - the Incas come to mind.
If you're thinking 'intelligent' species Neanderthal man was made extinct by Cro Magnon (sp?) man (out direct ancestors). We have made many species on this planet extinct.
You seem to be assuming that the count of 1 live civilisation (i.e. man kind) versus 0 extinct ones proves something. It doesn't: if we're killed off instead of 1-0 we get 0-1 but there's no-one left to keep score so it doesn't matter does it?
Until we find proof of other planets that support (or supported) inteligent life then one cannot make this kind of extrapolation! Also if you do use 1/0 = infinity then we would have already contacted and been contacted by ETs!
I think "they'd" be able to pick it up because it's beamed directly at an area of space - it's a relatively string and tight beam. The general emissions our planet gives off are (at that distance) very weak and diffuse.
... I was green with envy over the sounds made my a friends C64. As a speccy owner the weak bleeps it produced were no comparison. Wizball particularly blew me away IIRC.
It's nice to see the technology used back then is still 'useful' today. I'd imagine that my SoundBlaster 1024 Live out-performs it but it's not quite the same!
Whilst I agree with the idea of finding out the motives of a crimnal it doesn't make what they do any less of a crime.
Sinking to their level makes you one of them, nothing more, nothing less. If you feel that way and choose not to act in an irresponsible manner then good for you!
I think this is one situation where the good of the many should be put before the good of the few - if it means removing IRC servers until the protocol is updated to make it less abuseable then so be it!
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Isn't the point of this to provide a quick/cheap launching platform for space going vehicles?
It's (theoretically) much, much less expensive to launch from space than it is to launch from the planet's surface. It's possible that something like this could make the use of local space cost-effective.
Holidays on the moon, somewhere to bury nuclear waste, strip mining and no complaints from the neighbours. Heavy industry could move up there and not worry about polluting the atmosphere - there isn't much of one anyway!
What about the rest of life on earth? Do we have no responsibility to protect it? What about our responsibility to people who can't afford to adapt? If we cause global warming seas will rise, what about the people in places like Bangladesh who have already suffered extreme flooding and the disease/starvation caused by this? Do we consign them to die because of our selfishness?
Desertification in Africa? Destruction of Rainforest which exacerbates the situation?
If you claim that there's no 'healthy' state for the planet you're wrong. Climate has always shifted but within a balance, I don't think any ecologist would claim to aim for some kind of stasis, some utopian ideal, but would claim that if we disturb the balance too much the planet may not reciver before we wipe ourselves out.
Change isn't constant - first it changes one way, then it changes back again.
To claim that we can adapt to cope with any collapse of the global systems is extremely vain - we cannot. We are too widespread to survive. We survive day to day. Many of us do anyway. I'm not one of them - I have a very comfortable life, as you probably do and as do most of the/. readership. But I do have a responsibility no to consign others to death because of my greed and selfishness.
As I said (more implied actually!) in my other post in this thread: To deny our responsibility for our effect on the earth is selfish.
It would be useful (I think) to focus on how Linux with IBM solutions would compliment their existing AS/400 architecture. It's not generally a great idea to suggest that they scrap their existing applications and move wholesale to another OS or hardware platform.
The bottom line that they'll want to know is if it can save them money while offering an equivalent or (preferable) better service to themselves or their customers.
Focus on integration, scalability, flexibility and IBM's commitment to supporting the Linux arena.
Unfortunately not - they haven't toured over here (UK) for quite a while and I missed them that time round... :(
Maybe NASA faked this one too?
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Wouldn't this be more accurately posted to comp.microsoft.powerpoint (if is exist)?
According to the article it makes 40% Gross margin so they come out with quite a big chunk after they pay ther taxes...
The company I work for uses alot of open source software in it's development - both in terms off server side (linux, apache, etc) and for the application side (Tomcat, JServ, etc).
We don't use SAP-DB because:
I dare say that if we had a pressing business case to learn the extra skill (i.e. we required some of it's fetures on a project that hadn't got the Oracle budget) then we'd consider it.
Then again there are other Dbs that would also cut it in that case too.
MYSQL has a big name in terms of Open Source software and that alone may prevent people from switching from it in favour of a less well known 'brand'.
It's a shame that these initiatives all ssem to be so narrow minded.
Even when they're actually good ideas (I'm not claiming that this is a good idea!) they're implemented on a country-by-country basis and so their use to the global Internet community is severely limited.
I didn't see anything that required the end users of the net in SA to register themselves though - just the providers of cryptographical solutions - so I think we're safe from complete user control for a few more months...
Actually, the words are "Fsck you Open Group"
Much more appropriate IMO
You seem to somehow think the Brazillian Government is just doing this and nothing else to combat AIDS. You're wrong - there is a whole program in place to combat the epidemic - education and treatment.
I agree that this is IP theft and that inventors should recieve fair reward for their innovation but it's fairly clear that the Brazillian Government were attempting to negotiate on good faith with Roche, they'd already come to terms with other companies to reduce the price. With the state of the AIDS epidemic Roce would more than make back R&D costs.
You have to remember that Brazil isn't a rich country like the US or the UK etc. They really can't afford to throw money at a problem to make it go away. They're not getting the drug for free either - they're saving 60% of the current cost.
It's not an ideal solution but I really think companies who develope important drugs have a responsibility to the people their drugs treat - without their suffering they'd have no profits!
I thought it was just their DNS that was running BSD.
you sure it doesn't come under 'public service'?
Java doesn't stand or fall by inclusion in the browser, in fact very little serious Java coding is done in the form of Java based applets.
I'm a Java developer and all the projects I've worked on have focussed on server-side technologies (servlets, EJB, JSP and b-to-b services). I know how to write an applet but I'd need to have a book open to do it!
maybe the governmant should sue the parents for not caring enough to bring up well-adjusted children.
It's obvious that they are guilty of negligence for not protecting the world from their offspring.
PS I _know_ it's a little more complicated than that but I thinkn it's the basic underlying fact that the parent's (and many other parents) don't want to face up to.
You've obviously never been to Telford, you'd understand and support this if you had. ;-)
But more seriously - this is science for science's sake. Nothing more, nothing less. Probably like Mr Rutherford's experiments!
We're currently in the middle of an ice-age and the planet went for 15 million years without them at all. It seems as though the changes in temperature are largely effected by the angle of the earth to the sun and solar activity. There's still no firm evidence that climatic change has been caused by us and polution although we may have altered the rate of change slightly.
Still it's no excuse for us to be complacent - pollutants in the atmosphere and on the ground a re generally bad news for us all. One interesting point of note - research into greener forms of transport has been increaced recently not due to environmental concerns but because OPEC has the rest of the world (quite literally) over a barrel!
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It's probably not even harassmant (the individual would be none-the-wiser), and therefore it would be a miuse of resources that's applicable.
Who should the onus lie with in this situation, PPC users or those writing the central kernel? Linus does have an obligation to the people who use Linux. It's his own damn fault - it's the price you pay for writing something that has become so popular!
I know it may seem pedantic but we do know of dead civilisations - the Incas come to mind.
If you're thinking 'intelligent' species Neanderthal man was made extinct by Cro Magnon (sp?) man (out direct ancestors). We have made many species on this planet extinct.
You seem to be assuming that the count of 1 live civilisation (i.e. man kind) versus 0 extinct ones proves something. It doesn't: if we're killed off instead of 1-0 we get 0-1 but there's no-one left to keep score so it doesn't matter does it?
Until we find proof of other planets that support (or supported) inteligent life then one cannot make this kind of extrapolation! Also if you do use 1/0 = infinity then we would have already contacted and been contacted by ETs!
I think "they'd" be able to pick it up because it's beamed directly at an area of space - it's a relatively string and tight beam. The general emissions our planet gives off are (at that distance) very weak and diffuse.
Damn, and I though was the Real Thing! ;-)
It's nice to see the technology used back then is still 'useful' today. I'd imagine that my SoundBlaster 1024 Live out-performs it but it's not quite the same!
Ah the memories!
Sinking to their level makes you one of them, nothing more, nothing less. If you feel that way and choose not to act in an irresponsible manner then good for you!
I think this is one situation where the good of the many should be put before the good of the few - if it means removing IRC servers until the protocol is updated to make it less abuseable then so be it!
It's (theoretically) much, much less expensive to launch from space than it is to launch from the planet's surface. It's possible that something like this could make the use of local space cost-effective.
Holidays on the moon, somewhere to bury nuclear waste, strip mining and no complaints from the neighbours. Heavy industry could move up there and not worry about polluting the atmosphere - there isn't much of one anyway!
Makes you think doesn't it?
Desertification in Africa? Destruction of Rainforest which exacerbates the situation?
If you claim that there's no 'healthy' state for the planet you're wrong. Climate has always shifted but within a balance, I don't think any ecologist would claim to aim for some kind of stasis, some utopian ideal, but would claim that if we disturb the balance too much the planet may not reciver before we wipe ourselves out. Change isn't constant - first it changes one way, then it changes back again.
To claim that we can adapt to cope with any collapse of the global systems is extremely vain - we cannot. We are too widespread to survive. We survive day to day. Many of us do anyway. I'm not one of them - I have a very comfortable life, as you probably do and as do most of the /. readership. But I do have a responsibility no to consign others to death because of my greed and selfishness.
As I said (more implied actually!) in my other post in this thread: To deny our responsibility for our effect on the earth is selfish.