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Trivial? Let me explain this more slowly. They have found a way to serve beer. In space. That is an Amazing Achievement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cassini is screwed up. JPL has a problem with that (NOT Lockheed. JPL didn't bother to notice what units were being used for thrust, they just assumed they were metric). Beer in Space is a precursor to true Geeks in Space. Once you can deliver a pizza (and not the crappy, dehydrated kind) to the ISS, then we'll be lining up at Cape Canavral or Sunnyvale. Anyway, shouldn't a nitrogen-powered keg (Guinness) work? Or any other frat-powered, pump-it-yourself keg, for that matter?
If this post is incoherent, let me just say I've been verifying that Ground-based Beer distribution works. Works fine here, Houston.
Hmm, looking at my moderator list (whoo-hoo!), there is no entry for Incorrect (if there was, a lot of the IANA* people would have to be careful). You are not Offtopic, Flamebait, Troll, Redundant or Overrated. And besides, even if it was not written for/during the Nazi regime, I seem to remember Hitler was atleast a fan. Read this guy's page for more info on Wagner and anti-semetism.
well, if you'd like to know more about the VM spec, read it here. The VM doesn't care about class libraries, only that code is converted to bytecode correctly. The class libraries you will have available depend on the platform that you are developing for, so I doubt that javax.swing.anything will be available for an embedded machine. This is a VM implementation, and not a JDK.
I agreee that those whitepapers are worthless. I thought whitepapers were supposed to be the geeky stuff for us.
And, at the speed they approve purchases, we won't be using computers by then. Or, at least the keyboard and mouse will have given way to voice, eye, and glove controls.
Does anyone know if there is an actual production Virtual Keyboard being made? I did a quick google search and found these guys at Berkeley, but this looks like a design project. I'm getting worried about Carpal tunnel and arthritis and would like to do something other than bang on a keyboard all day. A keyboard glove would seem to be a solution since you are not making contact with keys, but just typing in the air.
This point is kind of a sore topic with me. I am in favor of having one national language in the US: English. There are a number of reasons why this seems to be a good idea. The main problem is that the US has so many different minorities in it that I don't think we would be able to settle on two or even three national languages if the debate ever came up. I understand Canada's stance with English and French, but there is a wider distribution of cultures in the US. What would we have? English, Spanish, Native American languages, Japanese, German, French, etc? That is going to be one huge street sign, printed (correctly) in all official languages.
I think you are misunderstanding the problem by equating a national language with a Hitler proposition. No is forcing immigrants to learn English (or whatever the language is where they move), but to expect them to understand the language that the majority of the country can speak and understand doesn't seem too unreasonable.
I hope I don't sound like the ugly American too badly here, but I just don't see learning the language of the country that you live in to be too unreasonable of an expectation.
You hit the nail on the head. Just look at all the syntax errors in the stuff people are complaining about. I mean, stdin.readline()??? Nope. I was getting revved up to reply to everyone who made a derogatory comment with code as backup, but almost all of them are blatently wrong that it is obvious they do not understand the intricacies of Java.
Hey taco: import to.long.to.get.to.* and be quiet. Fair use? From the license: "You acknowledge and agree as between you and Sun that Sun owns the Java trademark and all Java-related trademarks, service marks, logos and other brand designations including the Coffee Cup logo and Duke logo ("Java Marks"), and you agree to comply with the
Sun Trademark and Logo Usage Requirements currently located at www.sun.com/policies/trademarks."
public class HelloLine
{
public HelloLine()
{
try{
System.out.println("What is your name?");
BufferedReader br = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(System.in));
String inputString = br.readLine();
System.out.println("Hello, "+inputString);
}catch(IOException e){System.out.println(e.toString());}
}
public static void main(String args[])
{
new HelloLine();
}
}
How friendly it is: Having never done this specific problem before, I looked up the readers in the JavaDocs and knocked this out in about 10 minutes. Took me longer to post than to type. I guess I understand your complaint against System.in. No, they don't expect anyone to use System.in. That's why there are readers that take an InputStream and let you do some higher level operations on it. Read the JavaDocs and find the proper reader for what you want to do.
All of you Java-haters, are you creating code on your own, or using an IDE? Or do you just hate applets because they crash netscape? I have never seen an IDE that 1. generates Pure Java code (they all use their own class wrapper stuff that REALLY makes the code ugly). and 2. Creates even somewhat attractive code. These statements are from someone who had to evaluate the big 4 IDEs for my old job. We recommeneded emacs.
For a different perspective, a car on the highway is somewhere in the 68 to mid 70 dB range. 30 dB is below a whisper IIRC. I hope someone either dreamed that particular number up, or they are going to need a lot of sound deadening concrete to shut that place up. Just think: "In space, no one can hear you... Oh, wait, yes they can.".
One question. Is that english or metric decibels? We seem to have trouble keeping them straight.
I'm going to play Gorilla on my new PSX2 (when I get one.) This even worse than playing Intellivision games on a PSX. I for one will not code with a gamepad, although chording the 8 buttons it would be possible (although weird). Just don't make me pick the characters from the "High Score" screen format.
Hey, if they want to learn BASIC, I've got an old 486 laptop some can use.
You know, if they had managed to get "The sequel to the sequel to Myst" out in 2000, aka y2k, they could have called it Myst3K. It could even have taken place on the Satellite of Love. The mission: find Joel, Dr. F. and T.V.'s Frank. Of course it would have to be 3rd person unless we have to be cambot.
Ha, that will be a funny subject to see the next time I comment.
Without doing any more calculations, don't forget a 1000 bit number is really huge and you've got to basically factor against all 32 bit integers (2^32 * 2^32 = 2^1000ish). The problem with factoring problems is no matter how fast you search, you will reach your asymtote(sp?) where you just don't want to wait any more. This is because, even with a perfect brute force algorithm, you've still got to check on average 1 in 17 numbers. Once you get a good sized key, that's a LOT of computations.
Tell you what, give me a 40 bit key and a 56 bit key and I'll give you the pieces and the runtimes as proof by example.
That's the point I was obtusely trying to make. If you own it, it's your right to do whatever the hell you want. But if you use that knowledge to get into some else's car, then you are a criminal. It's a question of letter of the law vs. intent. They (the government) won't prosecute you for fair use. The RIAA or MPAA should only be able to prosecute for creating the tools, not using them. The wording of the bill is "No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic..." with no mention of use. Whatever you do for your own benefit is still protected.
Maybe I've just still got a little more faith in the government relative to business. We may not be able to change the system, but we can put the specific people in charge out of positions in power.
The more I think about this topic, the more I think we as geeks have a warped perspective on it. Sure, we can write/download programs to get around encryption. But the question still remains "Do we have the right to?" The closest analogy is locksmiths. They know how easy it is to get into a house, car, masterlock, whatever. But unless you are a locksmith, slim-jims, lockpicks, etc. are illegal to buy. So I guess the equivalent would be to make peer-to-peer networking, mp3 encoders, packetsniffers, etc. legal for us as long as we are using them in accordance with our jobs or for your own benefit.
I actually do not see as much wrong with this bill as a lot of people here. Using the locksmith example again: the ignition key to your car is hardly a "effective deterrent," but still, if someone steals your car even if it is unlocked, you can prosecute them. I learned the same lesson about the relative lack of security at home when I kicked our front door open at age 12. But even so, if someone breaks in, they can be prosecuted. This bill is just the electronic version of common sense laws that exist in the real world. Just because I've got a list of the first half-million prime numbers doesn't make me a criminal, but distributing the list and a keybreaker program would make me an accessory to any crime committed using them.
As funny as it was to see a link to "cheap Herman Miller," Aerons kick ass. It's the official chair of Office Hockey. Strange website, though. Rather than embed a 3d viewer, they give you the object model to run in 3dStudio. That's a new one.
I hope this won't start as big of a flame-war as vi vs. emacs. AskSlashdot is a strange category: it either gets like 12 posts or 500+.
"Dear MIR, Upon hearing we would be the location of your deorbiting, we took up a collection and came up with $27 million to not fall on us. We hope this donation will convince you to dispose of yourself and your radioactive mutant space monkey fungus somewhere else and not on top of our wildlife. Thank you.
Sincerely, Hawaii, Oceana, The Galapagos Islands, Austrailia, Flipper and Gilligan."
I hope you're using "nuked" in a euphamistical manner. Otherwise, that's a REALLY bad idea, EMP-wise and all. Plus now we get radioactive fungus raining down on us. Hey, as Dave Barry says, "Radioactive Fungus" is a good name for a band.
Hmm, nuke + space + Pierce Brosnan + Joe Don Baker (Mitchell!) = Goldeneye.
Ah, thanks for the link. So, really all you would get are really long in-game movies without any noticable image quality improvement. Bet Square would LOVE that. How about sitting through the whole FF movie before playing the game? br.I was under the assumption that mpeg4 was better quality for equivalent size file of mpeg2, when it is actually equivalent quality in a smaller file. (file compression vs. image compression). Did that just make sense? Well, I know what I mean.
Everyone should read this review. This guy ranks right with jeffk for random acts of humor. And I quote *ahem*:
However, graphics aren't everything so let's move on to the next area in the game - the interface. It's really difficult to put how terrible Force Commander's interface is into words... let's see... hmmm... OK, I think I've got it! The interface in Force Commander is akin to jumping into a piranha-infested pool filled with heavily-salted lemon juice after having just survived an attack by the paper-cut monsters from the planet Fleshwound.
but not because of the XBox. Looking through the specs I see 32 MB of Direct Rambus RAM. Now, given this from Intel, is Sony the only major rambus user left? Could this also have to do with the PlayStation2 shortage? I hope to see the day when Rambus memory is as hard to find as memory boards for my Thinkpad 340 laptop.
As an aside, why did they use mpeg2 compression? Because mpeg4 isn't ready and Sony wants nothing to do with the evil mp3? Do you think they will let us flash the image decoder with mpeg4 for even better in-game video? And seeing the max resolution is 1280x1024, how can I hook this up to my 19" monitor and finally get rid of my t.v.?
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Trivial? Let me explain this more slowly. They have found a way to serve beer. In space. That is an Amazing Achievement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cassini is screwed up. JPL has a problem with that (NOT Lockheed. JPL didn't bother to notice what units were being used for thrust, they just assumed they were metric). Beer in Space is a precursor to true Geeks in Space. Once you can deliver a pizza (and not the crappy, dehydrated kind) to the ISS, then we'll be lining up at Cape Canavral or Sunnyvale. Anyway, shouldn't a nitrogen-powered keg (Guinness) work? Or any other frat-powered, pump-it-yourself keg, for that matter?
If this post is incoherent, let me just say I've been verifying that Ground-based Beer distribution works. Works fine here, Houston.
Hmm, looking at my moderator list (whoo-hoo!), there is no entry for Incorrect (if there was, a lot of the IANA* people would have to be careful). You are not Offtopic, Flamebait, Troll, Redundant or Overrated. And besides, even if it was not written for/during the Nazi regime, I seem to remember Hitler was atleast a fan. Read this guy's page for more info on Wagner and anti-semetism.
Damn, now I can't moderate this topic. Oh well.
well, if you'd like to know more about the VM spec, read it here. The VM doesn't care about class libraries, only that code is converted to bytecode correctly. The class libraries you will have available depend on the platform that you are developing for, so I doubt that javax.swing.anything will be available for an embedded machine. This is a VM implementation, and not a JDK.
I agreee that those whitepapers are worthless. I thought whitepapers were supposed to be the geeky stuff for us.
And, at the speed they approve purchases, we won't be using computers by then. Or, at least the keyboard and mouse will have given way to voice, eye, and glove controls.
Does anyone know if there is an actual production Virtual Keyboard being made? I did a quick google search and found these guys at Berkeley, but this looks like a design project. I'm getting worried about Carpal tunnel and arthritis and would like to do something other than bang on a keyboard all day. A keyboard glove would seem to be a solution since you are not making contact with keys, but just typing in the air.
This point is kind of a sore topic with me. I am in favor of having one national language in the US: English. There are a number of reasons why this seems to be a good idea. The main problem is that the US has so many different minorities in it that I don't think we would be able to settle on two or even three national languages if the debate ever came up. I understand Canada's stance with English and French, but there is a wider distribution of cultures in the US. What would we have? English, Spanish, Native American languages, Japanese, German, French, etc? That is going to be one huge street sign, printed (correctly) in all official languages.
I think you are misunderstanding the problem by equating a national language with a Hitler proposition. No is forcing immigrants to learn English (or whatever the language is where they move), but to expect them to understand the language that the majority of the country can speak and understand doesn't seem too unreasonable.
I hope I don't sound like the ugly American too badly here, but I just don't see learning the language of the country that you live in to be too unreasonable of an expectation.
You hit the nail on the head. Just look at all the syntax errors in the stuff people are complaining about. I mean, stdin.readline()??? Nope. I was getting revved up to reply to everyone who made a derogatory comment with code as backup, but almost all of them are blatently wrong that it is obvious they do not understand the intricacies of Java.
Hey taco: import to.long.to.get.to.* and be quiet. Fair use? From the license: "You acknowledge and agree as between you and Sun that Sun owns the Java trademark and all Java-related trademarks, service marks, logos and other brand designations including the Coffee Cup logo and Duke logo ("Java Marks"), and you agree to comply with the Sun Trademark and Logo Usage Requirements currently located at www.sun.com/policies/trademarks."
Wow, I'm usually in a good mood on Fridays.
OK, here goes:
import java.io.*;
public class HelloLine
{
public HelloLine()
{
try{
System.out.println("What is your name?");
BufferedReader br = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(System.in));
String inputString = br.readLine();
System.out.println("Hello, "+inputString);
}catch(IOException e){System.out.println(e.toString());}
}
public static void main(String args[])
{
new HelloLine();
}
}
How friendly it is: Having never done this specific problem before, I looked up the readers in the JavaDocs and knocked this out in about 10 minutes. Took me longer to post than to type. I guess I understand your complaint against System.in. No, they don't expect anyone to use System.in. That's why there are readers that take an InputStream and let you do some higher level operations on it. Read the JavaDocs and find the proper reader for what you want to do.
All of you Java-haters, are you creating code on your own, or using an IDE? Or do you just hate applets because they crash netscape? I have never seen an IDE that 1. generates Pure Java code (they all use their own class wrapper stuff that REALLY makes the code ugly). and 2. Creates even somewhat attractive code. These statements are from someone who had to evaluate the big 4 IDEs for my old job. We recommeneded emacs.
jdk1.3 for linux has been out for a while. Get it here, although I doubt anyone would actually download it.
For a different perspective, a car on the highway is somewhere in the 68 to mid 70 dB range. 30 dB is below a whisper IIRC. I hope someone either dreamed that particular number up, or they are going to need a lot of sound deadening concrete to shut that place up. Just think: "In space, no one can hear you... Oh, wait, yes they can.".
One question. Is that english or metric decibels? We seem to have trouble keeping them straight.
I'm going to play Gorilla on my new PSX2 (when I get one.) This even worse than playing Intellivision games on a PSX. I for one will not code with a gamepad, although chording the 8 buttons it would be possible (although weird). Just don't make me pick the characters from the "High Score" screen format.
Hey, if they want to learn BASIC, I've got an old 486 laptop some can use.
You know, if they had managed to get "The sequel to the sequel to Myst" out in 2000, aka y2k, they could have called it Myst3K. It could even have taken place on the Satellite of Love. The mission: find Joel, Dr. F. and T.V.'s Frank. Of course it would have to be 3rd person unless we have to be cambot.
I feel better now.
Ha, that will be a funny subject to see the next time I comment.
Without doing any more calculations, don't forget a 1000 bit number is really huge and you've got to basically factor against all 32 bit integers (2^32 * 2^32 = 2^1000ish). The problem with factoring problems is no matter how fast you search, you will reach your asymtote(sp?) where you just don't want to wait any more. This is because, even with a perfect brute force algorithm, you've still got to check on average 1 in 17 numbers. Once you get a good sized key, that's a LOT of computations.
Tell you what, give me a 40 bit key and a 56 bit key and I'll give you the pieces and the runtimes as proof by example.
I was secretly hoping to get user #250000. Oh well, I guess I'll just try to get a prime number or something.
That's the point I was obtusely trying to make. If you own it, it's your right to do whatever the hell you want. But if you use that knowledge to get into some else's car, then you are a criminal. It's a question of letter of the law vs. intent. They (the government) won't prosecute you for fair use. The RIAA or MPAA should only be able to prosecute for creating the tools, not using them. The wording of the bill is "No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic ..." with no mention of use. Whatever you do for your own benefit is still protected.
Maybe I've just still got a little more faith in the government relative to business. We may not be able to change the system, but we can put the specific people in charge out of positions in power.
It is no longer EDT.
The more I think about this topic, the more I think we as geeks have a warped perspective on it. Sure, we can write/download programs to get around encryption. But the question still remains "Do we have the right to?" The closest analogy is locksmiths. They know how easy it is to get into a house, car, masterlock, whatever. But unless you are a locksmith, slim-jims, lockpicks, etc. are illegal to buy. So I guess the equivalent would be to make peer-to-peer networking, mp3 encoders, packetsniffers, etc. legal for us as long as we are using them in accordance with our jobs or for your own benefit.
I actually do not see as much wrong with this bill as a lot of people here. Using the locksmith example again: the ignition key to your car is hardly a "effective deterrent," but still, if someone steals your car even if it is unlocked, you can prosecute them. I learned the same lesson about the relative lack of security at home when I kicked our front door open at age 12. But even so, if someone breaks in, they can be prosecuted. This bill is just the electronic version of common sense laws that exist in the real world. Just because I've got a list of the first half-million prime numbers doesn't make me a criminal, but distributing the list and a keybreaker program would make me an accessory to any crime committed using them.
It will. Just let me put it in my bathroom for a month.
Or plant it, nose down, halfway into the ground. Then blame your dog.
As funny as it was to see a link to "cheap Herman Miller," Aerons kick ass. It's the official chair of Office Hockey. Strange website, though. Rather than embed a 3d viewer, they give you the object model to run in 3dStudio. That's a new one.
I hope this won't start as big of a flame-war as vi vs. emacs. AskSlashdot is a strange category: it either gets like 12 posts or 500+.
Oh, and we've got a fax coming through:
"Dear MIR,
Upon hearing we would be the location of your deorbiting, we took up a collection and came up with $27 million to not fall on us. We hope this donation will convince you to dispose of yourself and your radioactive mutant space monkey fungus somewhere else and not on top of our wildlife.
Thank you.
Sincerely, Hawaii, Oceana, The Galapagos Islands, Austrailia, Flipper and Gilligan."
I hope you're using "nuked" in a euphamistical manner. Otherwise, that's a REALLY bad idea, EMP-wise and all. Plus now we get radioactive fungus raining down on us. Hey, as Dave Barry says, "Radioactive Fungus" is a good name for a band.
Hmm, nuke + space + Pierce Brosnan + Joe Don Baker (Mitchell!) = Goldeneye.
Ah, thanks for the link. So, really all you would get are really long in-game movies without any noticable image quality improvement. Bet Square would LOVE that. How about sitting through the whole FF movie before playing the game?
br.I was under the assumption that mpeg4 was better quality for equivalent size file of mpeg2, when it is actually equivalent quality in a smaller file. (file compression vs. image compression). Did that just make sense? Well, I know what I mean.
Everyone should read this review. This guy ranks right with jeffk for random acts of humor. And I quote *ahem*:
However, graphics aren't everything so let's move on to the next area in the game - the interface. It's really difficult to put how terrible Force Commander's interface is into words... let's see... hmmm... OK, I think I've got it! The interface in Force Commander is akin to jumping into a piranha-infested pool filled with heavily-salted lemon juice after having just survived an attack by the paper-cut monsters from the planet Fleshwound.
Wow, that made my night.
No fair! Taco has changed the game so us new people can't get past level 2. He said it prevents "level-whoring," whatever that is *shudder*
but not because of the XBox. Looking through the specs I see 32 MB of Direct Rambus RAM. Now, given this from Intel, is Sony the only major rambus user left? Could this also have to do with the PlayStation2 shortage? I hope to see the day when Rambus memory is as hard to find as memory boards for my Thinkpad 340 laptop.
As an aside, why did they use mpeg2 compression? Because mpeg4 isn't ready and Sony wants nothing to do with the evil mp3? Do you think they will let us flash the image decoder with mpeg4 for even better in-game video? And seeing the max resolution is 1280x1024, how can I hook this up to my 19" monitor and finally get rid of my t.v.?