The webmaster should NEVER be the operator. But could be the a coder - but not the best use of their time.
You want the:
Webmaster to be artful, help place a "good face" on the company.
Operator make it run day in an day, plan for backup and outages, fall overs and upgrades.
Software to build it on the machine and make it look like the webmaster wants. Coding in the main frames, the sql servers and the web hosts.
You need to think of web development as program development. GUI=Webmaster, Business Rules=Software, Data Storage=Operator. With that model work gets done, by the right people for the greatest impact.
Then you are not seeing the big picture. Have worked with too many people that just do not get it. They are all the same. Just because it is a "byte ordering protocol" it is still a language, if you do not place the bytes in the correct sequence - the message is not "under stood".
All programing is mixture of languages...
The OS is language
The programs like sed / grep / awk / find use a languages.
TCP is a langauge, APPC/APPN, modems
Even if you "ONLY" write C++ - you don't. You use the editer's language to write. The compiler's language to compile.
Every API is a langauge.
You think not??
They all have syntax, verbs, methods, and anything else you want to claim as only in a langauge. What else is a API but a language, maybe simple... take (s)(F)printf... but still a language.
The only true OS/Langauge that I know is Forth. The editor, OS, & language are parts of the same thing.
I been doing mixed systems for years. It is the only way to go. C++ is bad as a device dirver. C is bad as screen or file handler. ASM gives speed. Basic gives control langange. Not to forget... RPG, COBOL, IBM/ASM, APPC/APPN, TCP/IP, HTML. You may not think of these as languages but they are. Oh - throw in (s)(f)printf also. Do not forget sed / gred / find / the OS of choice...
All system are mixed, period. The question is how deep... 1%, 5%, 20%.
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True business uses the tools that are "best" suited for the enviroment and use.
I am currently on a project that is using Synon, RPG, RPG/ILE, CL, VB, VBS, HTML, XML,.bat and Print-to-File with LPR for final delievery. It works fast and gives very pretty documents.
For the that Clipper Code...
http://www.the-oasis.net/
http://www.harbour-project.org/ -- Clipper Compiler
Actually the space left inside your case you should fill.
I pulled all my cards packed crushed paper and cards in to case -- protects the case more from crushing and protects the cards from sideway force to crack at edge connector.
Then place case in box with paper.
Makes a nice solid mass. And is a bitch for customs inspectors.
I will not stand for search - they have lost my business. PERIOD.
All the stupid search protects nothing. If you want to hurt all in the building, you can carry that in shirt pocket. Short of doing full cavity searchs to protect from the quiet attach, all areas are not safe from a person who realy wants to hurt people.
But then again - ALS is in Oakland and it is time for another BIG Quake. So lost from the start.
ALS belongs in Atlanta -- opps the bombing there 6 years ago.
Are we feeling the safety?
Best thing to do is NOT FLY do not go to the show, when they realize no one is playing thier games they will give us our rights back.
Lets dump them all and start a new rating system... called Word of Mouth.
Everyone is required to run the client software. When any site is accessed the client will ask the reviewer (person) what they think of it... Good / Bad, Adult, Hatred,... These responces will then be logged so the next time someone accesses the site and the say... Adult thresshold is not low enough they will be blocked.
Then the communtiy at large will be the raters. Allowes for new site (unrated) to come on line and soon to be blocked for what ever or if a search in like google starts to use the info - be placed at the top of lists for being the BEST.
You could even register as a Jew, Christian, Afro-American,.... so client could then "change" the rating system to look for responces by others with a simular belief or heritage.
This could even work for TV and dump those stupid VChips.
I tried at one point to get VNC on chip. This chip would be placed on a card that acted like a video card, but in realty was a "private" enternet with it own cpu. This way the host would only see a svga video card and the controling machine could "watch" via a VNC Cleint.
This way you would place "two" if not more networks in your sever room... the real world and the "Video" channel.
Remove all the computers and bring thier own if they still want it. Or better yet back to paper! Install there own phone lines, pay for them from the own pockets.
It this point the Judges will be on that same level as most teachers and sheriffs.
It is important that monitor is done and not done.
To have monitoring done...
We the people, will have the right see what happenes in our courts system.
To have monitoring not done...
We the poeple, are protecting the rights of each person.
Yeah, the coke machine cute. The model train was fun. But this one is just dumb. It is right up there with a Internet Ready: Referator, Stove, Microway or BBQ Grill.
This may have been a cute prank in the dorm. But it shows the waste of a good class-A that MIT is horriding.
ICANN/ARNN needs to cleanup these wastes prior to slamming us into another poorly thought out idea... new TLD (a lawyer money maker) or IPv6 (new money for Cisco).
Iron Chef
Invisable Man
FarScape
Sex in the City
Junkyard Wars
Good Eats
Robot Wars (all versions!)
Witchblade
Star Trek: Enterprise
Outer Limits
The Cronicle
7 Days
Now -
Since they are using Linux (GPL) to create software, why is a moive not GPL too?
Yes - a moive is software. the hardware for a moive on film is the projector. (hw=projector, media=film, sw=moive)
On DVD... hw=player, media=dvd, sw=moive
Deep Blue win was marketing hype. For a chess playing computer to win fairly, (yes, deep blue cheated.) a stable program that understands the game needs to play.
Deep Blue had programmers adjusting it play nightly. So if a human makes unique play would confuse it, programmers could correct the error during the play.
So Deep Blue's win was a beta test, not a turniment.
I have High School in Kansas, a pair or cops in Ohio just banging away. Firewall is eating them all. I have many more that it looks like AT$T have taken off the air.
But that is point "the writer owns the copyright".
If in the case of NY Times...
- if the paper bought only the right to publish, then more money is due.
- if the paper did a work for hire in - for use in paper form - then again money is due. -- i believe that is what the lawsuit was about.
- if the paper did a work for hire - and they own it outright in all forms, then no money is due.
With that being said... in the record business when a sound writer writes a song under what contract was it written.
Here are a few questions to ask...
- was the song written by some one then sold? Was the sale complete with all rights or only rights in a limited space - said records and not CDs - then again the writers own the work. Simular to a book sale?
- was the sond writing by a staff writer or work for hire. Then the person with check book wins.
So to push the question... If the record company "owns" the work, why does sariest (like Wierd Al) have to get the orginal writer's promission first?
Here in Chicago 847 will have layover area code. Forcing us to dail 11 digits. Why need a one when all digits being dialed? The why for this - Feds are going to giving us all a single phone for life. So if I moved from Chicago to LA -- Same number with prefix, so in the end an Area Code is meaning list to determine area or cost of the call. Think a permiate IP for life!
Direct inward dailing is overrated. Been doing both ways for years. I just like being able to say - Company Name and Extention. Then the phone number remain the same even if you are reassigned in the office - or to another state - the call will forward over Watts Line / IP / what ever.
First, I do know how it works. That is why IPv6 is unneed.
you are right 0.0.0.0 or 255.255.255.255 does not refer to anything speicfically... but with the return address - where it belongs in sub-net is well defined.
By using a method like this. IP addresses would not be need for for them in each subnet.
Futher 224.0.0.0 could also be gone, subscription base broadband broadcast work better.
"Ip allotment isn't sloppy. Everything having a static address means not everything is hiddent. Means that on a whole, there is a network for everything. "
It is completily sloppily -- Go to one of the ISP lists and see how bad it real is. Factions on Factions of IP assignments. Not being able to use the first or last IP in assignment set... WHY?
First Cisco was lazy. The first IP should always be good... but no. The last IP that is a broadcast -- but again why? Why not an anti-ip flag instead. or always use 0.0.0.0 or 255.255.255.255. Again sloppy work.
The same easy of use goes for the phone.
You are right about knowning the xxx belongs here.
That is exactly why overlays are dumb.
Why must I use 10 digits to call me nieghbor?
It use to be 4 at one time.
It then went to 7
and now 10.
Why is the ease of use? You can't claim it.
And calling say IBM at 408-xxx-xxxx then being able to select and person name or extendion...
I can find IBMs number in the phone, but not the rest of it. So I can could said "Call me at IBM, and ask for JACKB" -- Is that not the same as a DNS and PATH?
You are not thinking head... So in the future "call me at xxx.x.x.x.x....xxxxx.x//xxxxxx"
That is definatily easier!
Slashdot Mirror
Hence three different departments.
First the content... Pure Sales / Marketing
Second the machines... Operations
Third the Software... IT
The webmaster should NEVER be the operator. But could be the a coder - but not the best use of their time.
You want the:
Webmaster to be artful, help place a "good face" on the company.
Operator make it run day in an day, plan for backup and outages, fall overs and upgrades.
Software to build it on the machine and make it look like the webmaster wants. Coding in the main frames, the sql servers and the web hosts.
You need to think of web development as program development. GUI=Webmaster, Business Rules=Software, Data Storage=Operator. With that model work gets done, by the right people for the greatest impact.
Then you are not seeing the big picture. Have worked with too many people that just do not get it. They are all the same. Just because it is a "byte ordering protocol" it is still a language, if you do not place the bytes in the correct sequence - the message is not "under stood".
All programing is mixture of languages...
The OS is language
The programs like sed / grep / awk / find use a languages.
TCP is a langauge, APPC/APPN, modems
Even if you "ONLY" write C++ - you don't. You use the editer's language to write. The compiler's language to compile.
Every API is a langauge.
You think not??
They all have syntax, verbs, methods, and anything else you want to claim as only in a langauge. What else is a API but a language, maybe simple... take (s)(F)printf... but still a language.
The only true OS/Langauge that I know is Forth. The editor, OS, & language are parts of the same thing.
Your view is a little to simplistic too.
I been doing mixed systems for years. It is the only way to go. C++ is bad as a device dirver. C is bad as screen or file handler. ASM gives speed. Basic gives control langange. Not to forget... RPG, COBOL, IBM/ASM, APPC/APPN, TCP/IP, HTML. You may not think of these as languages but they are. Oh - throw in (s)(f)printf also. Do not forget sed / gred / find / the OS of choice...
All system are mixed, period. The question is how deep... 1%, 5%, 20%.
True business uses the tools that are "best" suited for the enviroment and use.
.bat and Print-to-File with LPR for final delievery. It works fast and gives very pretty documents.
I am currently on a project that is using Synon, RPG, RPG/ILE, CL, VB, VBS, HTML, XML,
For the that Clipper Code...
http://www.the-oasis.net/
http://www.harbour-project.org/ -- Clipper Compiler
Actually the space left inside your case you should fill.
I pulled all my cards packed crushed paper and cards in to case -- protects the case more from crushing and protects the cards from sideway force to crack at edge connector.
Then place case in box with paper.
Makes a nice solid mass. And is a bitch for customs inspectors.
We no need DNS!!!
That is why there is yahoo!
I will not stand for search - they have lost my business. PERIOD.
All the stupid search protects nothing. If you want to hurt all in the building, you can carry that in shirt pocket. Short of doing full cavity searchs to protect from the quiet attach, all areas are not safe from a person who realy wants to hurt people.
But then again - ALS is in Oakland and it is time for another BIG Quake. So lost from the start.
ALS belongs in Atlanta -- opps the bombing there 6 years ago.
Are we feeling the safety?
Best thing to do is NOT FLY do not go to the show, when they realize no one is playing thier games they will give us our rights back.
Lets dump them all and start a new rating system... called Word of Mouth.
.... so client could then "change" the rating system to look for responces by others with a simular belief or heritage.
Everyone is required to run the client software. When any site is accessed the client will ask the reviewer (person) what they think of it... Good / Bad, Adult, Hatred,... These responces will then be logged so the next time someone accesses the site and the say... Adult thresshold is not low enough they will be blocked.
Then the communtiy at large will be the raters. Allowes for new site (unrated) to come on line and soon to be blocked for what ever or if a search in like google starts to use the info - be placed at the top of lists for being the BEST.
You could even register as a Jew, Christian, Afro-American,
This could even work for TV and dump those stupid VChips.
I tried at one point to get VNC on chip. This chip would be placed on a card that acted like a video card, but in realty was a "private" enternet with it own cpu. This way the host would only see a svga video card and the controling machine could "watch" via a VNC Cleint.
This way you would place "two" if not more networks in your sever room... the real world and the "Video" channel.
If have nine machines - I have 1 spare monitor and keyboard for base boot and load. Once loaded VNC all the way - even with linux.
Nice to be able to use any machine any where in the house with touching it.
If the Judges want to take a stand...
Remove all the computers and bring thier own if they still want it. Or better yet back to paper! Install there own phone lines, pay for them from the own pockets.
It this point the Judges will be on that same level as most teachers and sheriffs.
It is important that monitor is done and not done.
To have monitoring done...
We the people, will have the right see what happenes in our courts system.
To have monitoring not done...
We the poeple, are protecting the rights of each person.
For me... NO MONITORING
MS is a monopoly... proven
MS has done "bad things"... proven
MS is still doing those "bad things"... proven
MS has added more "bad things"... shown
Why give them right to entrench these practics again, and fill the war chests...
Buy votes
Hire more lawyers
Well?
You can thank the push to IPv6.
Yeah, the coke machine cute. The model train was fun. But this one is just dumb. It is right up there with a Internet Ready: Referator, Stove, Microway or BBQ Grill.
This may have been a cute prank in the dorm. But it shows the waste of a good class-A that MIT is horriding.
ICANN/ARNN needs to cleanup these wastes prior to slamming us into another poorly thought out idea... new TLD (a lawyer money maker) or IPv6 (new money for Cisco).
Iron Chef
Invisable Man
FarScape
Sex in the City
Junkyard Wars
Good Eats
Robot Wars (all versions!)
Witchblade
Star Trek: Enterprise
Outer Limits
The Cronicle
7 Days
A moive on a dvd is software, just as html is software.
Both required an interupter to make a presention. Use the basic and java are both intrupted to be presented.
Now - Since they are using Linux (GPL) to create software, why is a moive not GPL too? Yes - a moive is software. the hardware for a moive on film is the projector. (hw=projector, media=film, sw=moive) On DVD... hw=player, media=dvd, sw=moive
It will only get worse.
I am programmer from the days when 12k of ram was BIG! Yes, kilo!
Today, I still write small tight routines.
But most programmers today, throw more hardware at the problem to get better speed, instead of improving their style.
This idea of HDTV over IP is fine, but compress the single to the 5M it needs, instead of the wasting 4x that.
The computers are more than fast enought to do that. MIT proved that years ago. IE: HDTV in the same channel space normal TV.
Deep Blue win was marketing hype. For a chess playing computer to win fairly, (yes, deep blue cheated.) a stable program that understands the game needs to play. Deep Blue had programmers adjusting it play nightly. So if a human makes unique play would confuse it, programmers could correct the error during the play. So Deep Blue's win was a beta test, not a turniment.
I prefer to use multiple CPU of a lower priced CPU to handle my high end needs.
Not completily true.
@home at home, it is true no public servers.
But a business connection can...
I have High School in Kansas, a pair or cops in Ohio just banging away. Firewall is eating them all. I have many more that it looks like AT$T have taken off the air.
But that is point "the writer owns the copyright".
If in the case of NY Times...
- if the paper bought only the right to publish, then more money is due.
- if the paper did a work for hire in - for use in paper form - then again money is due. -- i believe that is what the lawsuit was about.
- if the paper did a work for hire - and they own it outright in all forms, then no money is due.
With that being said... in the record business when a sound writer writes a song under what contract was it written.
Here are a few questions to ask...
- was the song written by some one then sold? Was the sale complete with all rights or only rights in a limited space - said records and not CDs - then again the writers own the work. Simular to a book sale?
- was the sond writing by a staff writer or work for hire. Then the person with check book wins.
So to push the question... If the record company "owns" the work, why does sariest (like Wierd Al) have to get the orginal writer's promission first?
Here in Chicago 847 will have layover area code. Forcing us to dail 11 digits. Why need a one when all digits being dialed? The why for this - Feds are going to giving us all a single phone for life. So if I moved from Chicago to LA -- Same number with prefix, so in the end an Area Code is meaning list to determine area or cost of the call. Think a permiate IP for life!
Direct inward dailing is overrated. Been doing both ways for years. I just like being able to say - Company Name and Extention. Then the phone number remain the same even if you are reassigned in the office - or to another state - the call will forward over Watts Line / IP / what ever.
First, I do know how it works. That is why IPv6 is unneed.
you are right 0.0.0.0 or 255.255.255.255 does not refer to anything speicfically... but with the return address - where it belongs in sub-net is well defined.
By using a method like this. IP addresses would not be need for for them in each subnet.
Futher 224.0.0.0 could also be gone, subscription base broadband broadcast work better.
"Ip allotment isn't sloppy. Everything having a static address means not everything is hiddent. Means that on a whole, there is a network for everything. "
It is completily sloppily -- Go to one of the ISP lists and see how bad it real is. Factions on Factions of IP assignments. Not being able to use the first or last IP in assignment set... WHY?
First Cisco was lazy. The first IP should always be good... but no. The last IP that is a broadcast -- but again why? Why not an anti-ip flag instead. or always use 0.0.0.0 or 255.255.255.255. Again sloppy work.
The same easy of use goes for the phone.
You are right about knowning the xxx belongs here.
That is exactly why overlays are dumb.
Why must I use 10 digits to call me nieghbor?
It use to be 4 at one time.
It then went to 7
and now 10.
Why is the ease of use? You can't claim it.
And calling say IBM at 408-xxx-xxxx then being able to select and person name or extendion...
I can find IBMs number in the phone, but not the rest of it. So I can could said "Call me at IBM, and ask for JACKB" -- Is that not the same as a DNS and PATH?
You are not thinking head... So in the future "call me at xxx.x.x.x.x....xxxxx.x//xxxxxx"
That is definatily easier!