When will VGA board makers will compete by price, like AMD started to do few years ago and not for hundreds of FPS that no one uses (because they're over humam eyes limits)?
The limit of the human eye does not limit the desire for more frame rates. Any hard gamer can tell you what an extra 30 fps (say... 30-60) can do for their game. Frankly, the higher the frame rate, the more continual the image looks (and hence, more like real life). I agree that after a certian point the mind does not notice anything, but for me, at least, that certian point is a good step above 60fps.
Also, they need to pump out all those frames per second in order to meet the demands of the latest video games. Just look at the Halo benchmarks and wait for DoomIII to come out... then you'll be hurtin for the extra power and you're running around trying to cap people off at 15fps.
The card need to beocome faster as well to compensate for gamers turning up AA and Antistropic Filtering (along with color depth, texture quality... not to mention little goodies each maker offers like TrueForm). Sure 150+fps in a game seems a little overboard, but just turn up the eye candy and you'll drop down to a more normal speed... and that eye candy is what the consumer is now demanding.
Given that these worms are still going strong, it doesn't take long for a new system to be infected. In particular, if you have to connect it to the Internet to download all the patches.
My intent was that even if you were less generous with your numbers, your result would still be within an order of magnitude of his claim, which in my opinion would certainly not prove his claim as being absurd.
Again, you must apply that order of magnitude to all situations. That would say that the final cost of the highway is within an order of magnitude of the original projected cost, so the final cost isn't absurd. That would also imply that using a figure of 150 billion opposed to 15 billion isn't absurd either. Both of which, are completely absurd and bring the perspective far from reality.
Again... an order of magnitude throws the comparison way out of perspective. You can't get around it. In my opinion, being only within an order of magnitude is not acceptable... by our opinion the final cost of the tunnel (and the length of time taken) is entirely acceptable... contradicting your argument in support of the original claim against the Big Dig.
Everyone opposed the Iraq war, even Britain. The only difference is a handful of chicken countries (Britain being the largest) cow-towed for financial or political reasons because the U.S. wields the biggest stick.
France, Germany, and Russia (soviet union, ussr, whatever the hell they're called) all opposed the war for financial reasons, you clod. Iraq owed them billions.
Still, by your numbers, he's within an order of magnitude of being right.
No. 1) I estimated in favor of him in multiple areas. 2) The order of magnitude you refer to must be applied to in every way of looking at it. So if you were to say that he's right within a magnitude of 5... or even 2 (which I think I'll make over 1.5 million in my lifetime total)... then you're at least doubling the cost of the entire project, which is unrealistic and so "order of magnitudes" don't give any realistic information.
And if you consider that some sections of the construction cost much more than other sections, he may be completely correct for those areas.
The costs you refer to don't matter. Obviously some things in construction cost much more than others, but you don't complain that your car engine costs so much more than your seats.
Even drawing the circle around the base of the car is a bad way of looking at it. You still have to divide up the ceiling of the tunnel, the walls, other foundational elements... etc.
Fortunately, the tunnel isn't a parking lot (yet), otherwise he'd have a point.
Calling it a parking lot again bring the perspective far away from reality. If that were the case, the EVERYONE's argument would have a point about cost... its a frekin parking lot. The functionality gives means to the cost.
15 Billion for a tunnel. Drive in. Stop the car, draw a chalk line arround the car. The cost of that space is more than you will make in your life. Probably more than all your close friends will make in there ENTIRE lives. Someone made a killing!
What does that tell you? YOU'RE POOR! The economy doesn't operate on thousands of dollars.
Anyway, to play numbers...
7.8 miles of highway in all. Lets underestimate (favor for you) at 4 lanes (2 each way) with each lane being 12 feet wide (average). 5280 feet in a mile. Total area = 7.8*5280*4*12 = 1976832 square feet. 15 billion / 1976832 square feet = $7587.90 per square foot of highway.
Now lets say you drive a Windstar to get your kids to soccer practice (big car... in your favor again). If you draw a line around your car you get an area about (200.9in x 76.6in) 106 square feet.
106 x $7,587.90 = $804,317.40 (+ or - $10,000 I guess)
Lets say the average income is 30k per year (under-estimate concidering average in 1999 for asian-americans - to be PC - was above 51k)... I'm sure you'll work more than 26 years in your lifetime.
I predict that in 100 years, the big dig will be considered a marvel of engineering -- the modern equivalent of a cathedral.
I already concider it a marval of engineering. If anyone knew half of what they had to go through to get that project complete they would think the same thing.
I don't live in boston, but anyone who complains about how long it took or how much it cost is just a business major / politician who simply looks at numbers and not what those numbers mean. Anyone who has an appreciation for what went into this project and the final result is a true engineer, artist, or an appreciator of philosophy.
...and which one those types of people do you think is responsible for growth and betterment of our civilization?
In a related story, it seems that thousands of small 99 cent stores have banded together to manage their own music download service as well. Many songs are listed as 99 cents per song, but the website is also offering single remixes at 2 for 99 cents in order to compete with walmart.
Others simply have no other way to make ends meet.
Go flip burgers for 30 hours a week.
This war was never about liberating the poor iraqi people, or WMD, or terrorism, or any of the other explanations the government has tried to use in the past.
I find it really strange that conservatives are using this line of reasoning.
Don't start spewing political crap. You put people in too broad of catagories. Fix that.
And funny how you write off soldiers lives as "part of their jobs they signed up for" while you sit at home typing safely away at your computer. These are people who put their lives on the line because they a) love their country so much or b)it is their only hope for an education/better future. It makes me sick that you belive it is their duty to sacrifice their lives to protect "your life and your well being" while you do nothing in return.
Not at all. First, I didn't sign up for that job... they did and it was their choice. I thought about it, but decided against it so I could get a CE and EE degree.
Second, your logic suggests that the entire population should sign up for the military or they shouldn't have any rights that their government defends. That's complete bull. That's not how a government/economy/society operates.
No, it's not their duty to sacrifice their lives. It's their duty to defend their lives and the lives of others achieve achieve their goal. You're little twists on wording need improvement.
What do I do in return? I pay my taxes, I contribute to the economy, I support our government, I back them whole hartedly (I have a buddy in the marines coming home soon... and no, he didn't need the money to go to college. On that note, there are always other alternatives to signing up in the military to get money for college). Everybody has their own role in this nation, this economy, and the entire world's civilization... and they all differ greatly...
//after thought.
You start your comments by stating that the US is hypocritical if they don't go to war with all the other countries.... but you finish with mocking war supporters (in which case, I never said I supported the war... I just gave logical statements to clarify the roles of the military and governments)... make up your mind.
Try explaining to an AMERICAN widow that the invasion of Iraq somehow made us in America SAFER despite the widow's husband is dead due to some random Islamic idiot's roadbomb.
When you sign up for the military you have no guarantee for life - that's just part of the job.
When you're a citizen of a nation, the government must do everything it can to protect your life and your well being... that's part of it's job.
When you have a government that gasses and kills its own people, then the government isn't doing its job and must be removed. The forces that remove that government know it's going to be hard, know people are going to die or get wounded, and know that every day they're over there their life is in danger...
If they have a problem with that then they shouldn't have signed up with the military in the first place.
What to people think about the prospect of this more widespread use of RFID? Is this something that will only lead to more credit card fraud, or will it provide more secure means of payment?
Fraud. All you have to do is take a small mobile credit card scanner and keep it in your pocket... walk around in a crouded shopping mall where everyones credit "cards" are in their pockets and see how many you can scan.
Notice that it's on a workstation... it's not the embedded system, thank god.
Linux is not made for mission critical applications (not yet). Sure you can reboot your workstation when something goes wrong, but it's a little tricky to hold down the power key for 5 seconds on a little bot millions of miles away.
I'm not dissin linux, I'm just not saying it's ready for that kind of dependibilty.
Why not use the nanotubes for high temperature super conductors?
A.K.A. Fast @ss processors with minimal heat.
Or for more scientific and broader uses, much much much much better inductors (another boost to computers), solenoids (yea yea, same thing), electromagnets (umm, sort of different) for magnetic levitation used in maglev trains, etc...
Such ballocks.... indeed... (be sure to read the WHOLE article in each case...)
Physical characteristics aside... men and women think differently. End of story.
The philosophical and logical attack you have when presenting your arguments is entirely unscientific. You state statistics, probibilities, and analise human behavior on a purely social and artificial standpoint... much in the same effect as politicians actually choosing the most rational course of action for the government - that method is horrible at actually getting the job done.
The only way to fully understand a problem is to figure out what is going on below the surface. Your approach of analyzing social behavior and performance in the work place based on how they were brought up is like trying to understand a computer by measuing how hot the insides get and what kinds of noises it makes.... you can't.
They do matter, but they shouldn't, and don't have to, you don't need psyical power to be any of the categories defined.. there are plenty of other than male genders occupying these roles
Sure you don't need to be physically strong to be a cop, a construction worker... but those who are get the job done better (unless, of course, you have a desk job... which then goes into the argument of how men and women think differently). Frankly, a man who runs the same amount of time as a woman will most likely (I'm guessing around the 80% range) be faster than the woman. So which one is going to catch the fleeing fellon?
Differences like these aren't limited to sex either. Africans are better runners and jumpers, for example (longer achilles tendon). Every "race" is different, and with that difference comes different strong and weak points... just like sex. It's how nature "constructed" our world. It's our or world has been for a long long time. To think you can take yourself out of the constructed reality nature has put us in is arrogant and simply impossible without altering the very genes we're made of.
If the rule has so many expeptions (and it has more than you obviously think)... then it really isn't a rule. You need people for hard labor, you need physical ability, robots aren't doing all the work for us, you need agression in situations... just think police officers, mechanics, builders, technicians, etc... if there is a rule it is most definately not in your favor.
saying that the traits involved with being succesfull are Masculine... Moreso than this your go on to imply that Feminine traits are involved with lack of sucess!!
Yes. In certian matters absolutely yes. If you cannot see that your physical apperance/posture matters, then what kind of shell are you living in? When you are in direct contact with other people, apperance matters. As for being an engineer or a scientist, your brain matters (and not many scientists are that physically intimidating, like some in the business world). For that matter, men and women do think differently. Women more emotional, men less so (studies back this, I'm sorry that I cant link to them, but yes, of course there are a few exceptions). Even when working long hours into the night in any job, a little extra energy would help out (i.e. testestrone building stronger muscles with more stamina).
Frankly, in any case men and women generally will react differently (even in the slightest sense). So why fight it and say we are purely equal?
Think Transgendered, or girls or are brought up as boys, for the most part the Social (and that's what I'm talking about, social interactions) part of their lives are complete independant of their sex.
As you would put it, they are the exception... not the rule.
Performance differences are negligble between male and females.
BULLSHIT! It's called testosterone... Wanna go head to head in pushups? Why the hell do you think they have men and womens sports that are segregated off?
I'd give you lots and lots of examples of jobs where men would perform better (basically, on average anything that involves hard labor), but that's horribly obvious and anyone with a few braincells firing away would realise that.
Well what about for business? Intimidation is a big factor in getting the job done and getting your company what it needs when meeting with clients/peers. How do you intimidate? With pure looks and posture. Does a feminly posture intimidate? Hell no! Even take a man and make him a little feminine... I'd laugh at him in the business place.
There's a difference between men and women. If you don't understand it, take a frekin bio class at your local community college. We think differently, act differently, look differently, and perform differently. There's no way around it. That's just how nature made it...
Go ahead and say im using sexist language and all your other pseud-arguments to "prove" your point... you're wrong.
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When will VGA board makers will compete by price, like AMD started to do few years ago and not for hundreds of FPS that no one uses (because they're over humam eyes limits)?
The limit of the human eye does not limit the desire for more frame rates. Any hard gamer can tell you what an extra 30 fps (say... 30-60) can do for their game. Frankly, the higher the frame rate, the more continual the image looks (and hence, more like real life). I agree that after a certian point the mind does not notice anything, but for me, at least, that certian point is a good step above 60fps.
Also, they need to pump out all those frames per second in order to meet the demands of the latest video games. Just look at the Halo benchmarks and wait for DoomIII to come out... then you'll be hurtin for the extra power and you're running around trying to cap people off at 15fps.
The card need to beocome faster as well to compensate for gamers turning up AA and Antistropic Filtering (along with color depth, texture quality... not to mention little goodies each maker offers like TrueForm). Sure 150+fps in a game seems a little overboard, but just turn up the eye candy and you'll drop down to a more normal speed... and that eye candy is what the consumer is now demanding.
...for linux users finally have a game where you can beat a puking person down with a shovel after you pee on them, and then light them on fire!
The world will finally be a better place...
Given that these worms are still going strong, it doesn't take long for a new system to be infected. In particular, if you have to connect it to the Internet to download all the patches.
Just uhh... use a router/firewall. Problem solved
My intent was that even if you were less generous with your numbers, your result would still be within an order of magnitude of his claim, which in my opinion would certainly not prove his claim as being absurd.
Again, you must apply that order of magnitude to all situations. That would say that the final cost of the highway is within an order of magnitude of the original projected cost, so the final cost isn't absurd. That would also imply that using a figure of 150 billion opposed to 15 billion isn't absurd either. Both of which, are completely absurd and bring the perspective far from reality.
Again... an order of magnitude throws the comparison way out of perspective. You can't get around it. In my opinion, being only within an order of magnitude is not acceptable... by our opinion the final cost of the tunnel (and the length of time taken) is entirely acceptable... contradicting your argument in support of the original claim against the Big Dig.
Everyone opposed the Iraq war, even Britain. The only difference is a handful of chicken countries (Britain being the largest) cow-towed for financial or political reasons because the U.S. wields the biggest stick.
France, Germany, and Russia (soviet union, ussr, whatever the hell they're called) all opposed the war for financial reasons, you clod. Iraq owed them billions.
Still, by your numbers, he's within an order of magnitude of being right.
No. 1) I estimated in favor of him in multiple areas. 2) The order of magnitude you refer to must be applied to in every way of looking at it. So if you were to say that he's right within a magnitude of 5... or even 2 (which I think I'll make over 1.5 million in my lifetime total)... then you're at least doubling the cost of the entire project, which is unrealistic and so "order of magnitudes" don't give any realistic information.
And if you consider that some sections of the construction cost much more than other sections, he may be completely correct for those areas.
The costs you refer to don't matter. Obviously some things in construction cost much more than others, but you don't complain that your car engine costs so much more than your seats.
Even drawing the circle around the base of the car is a bad way of looking at it. You still have to divide up the ceiling of the tunnel, the walls, other foundational elements... etc.
Fortunately, the tunnel isn't a parking lot (yet), otherwise he'd have a point.
Calling it a parking lot again bring the perspective far away from reality. If that were the case, the EVERYONE's argument would have a point about cost... its a frekin parking lot. The functionality gives means to the cost.
Newsforge and Slashdot are both part of OSDN.
...so linux followers we can't bash newsforge for that article?
15 Billion for a tunnel. Drive in. Stop the car, draw a chalk line arround the car. The cost of that space is more than you will make in your life. Probably more than all your close friends will make in there ENTIRE lives. Someone made a killing!
What does that tell you? YOU'RE POOR! The economy doesn't operate on thousands of dollars.
Anyway, to play numbers...
7.8 miles of highway in all.
Lets underestimate (favor for you) at 4 lanes (2 each way) with each lane being 12 feet wide (average).
5280 feet in a mile.
Total area = 7.8*5280*4*12 = 1976832 square feet.
15 billion / 1976832 square feet = $7587.90 per square foot of highway.
Now lets say you drive a Windstar to get your kids to soccer practice (big car... in your favor again). If you draw a line around your car you get an area about (200.9in x 76.6in) 106 square feet.
106 x $7,587.90 = $804,317.40 (+ or - $10,000 I guess)
Lets say the average income is 30k per year (under-estimate concidering average in 1999 for asian-americans - to be PC - was above 51k)... I'm sure you'll work more than 26 years in your lifetime.
I predict that in 100 years, the big dig will be considered a marvel of engineering -- the modern equivalent of a cathedral.
I already concider it a marval of engineering. If anyone knew half of what they had to go through to get that project complete they would think the same thing.
I don't live in boston, but anyone who complains about how long it took or how much it cost is just a business major / politician who simply looks at numbers and not what those numbers mean. Anyone who has an appreciation for what went into this project and the final result is a true engineer, artist, or an appreciator of philosophy.
...and which one those types of people do you think is responsible for growth and betterment of our civilization?
The way they're talking, these databases/whatever are aware of their surroundings.... not self aware.
People throw around "AI" and "Sentient" too much when describing software when in fact the software is nowhere close to that.
In a related story, it seems that thousands of small 99 cent stores have banded together to manage their own music download service as well. Many songs are listed as 99 cents per song, but the website is also offering single remixes at 2 for 99 cents in order to compete with walmart.
...be sure not to name the system that controls the flying helicopters "Skynet"...
Others simply have no other way to make ends meet.
Go flip burgers for 30 hours a week.
This war was never about liberating the poor iraqi people, or WMD, or terrorism, or any of the other explanations the government has tried to use in the past.
So what was it for? Oil? Ok...
I find it really strange that conservatives are using this line of reasoning.
Don't start spewing political crap. You put people in too broad of catagories. Fix that.
And funny how you write off soldiers lives as "part of their jobs they signed up for" while you sit at home typing safely away at your computer. These are people who put their lives on the line because they a) love their country so much or b)it is their only hope for an education/better future. It makes me sick that you belive it is their duty to sacrifice their lives to protect "your life and your well being" while you do nothing in return.
Not at all. First, I didn't sign up for that job... they did and it was their choice. I thought about it, but decided against it so I could get a CE and EE degree.
Second, your logic suggests that the entire population should sign up for the military or they shouldn't have any rights that their government defends. That's complete bull. That's not how a government/economy/society operates.
No, it's not their duty to sacrifice their lives. It's their duty to defend their lives and the lives of others achieve achieve their goal. You're little twists on wording need improvement.
What do I do in return? I pay my taxes, I contribute to the economy, I support our government, I back them whole hartedly (I have a buddy in the marines coming home soon... and no, he didn't need the money to go to college. On that note, there are always other alternatives to signing up in the military to get money for college). Everybody has their own role in this nation, this economy, and the entire world's civilization... and they all differ greatly...
//after thought.
You start your comments by stating that the US is hypocritical if they don't go to war with all the other countries.... but you finish with mocking war supporters (in which case, I never said I supported the war... I just gave logical statements to clarify the roles of the military and governments)... make up your mind.
Try explaining to an AMERICAN widow that the invasion of Iraq somehow made us in America SAFER despite the widow's husband is dead due to some random Islamic idiot's roadbomb.
When you sign up for the military you have no guarantee for life - that's just part of the job.
When you're a citizen of a nation, the government must do everything it can to protect your life and your well being... that's part of it's job.
When you have a government that gasses and kills its own people, then the government isn't doing its job and must be removed. The forces that remove that government know it's going to be hard, know people are going to die or get wounded, and know that every day they're over there their life is in danger...
If they have a problem with that then they shouldn't have signed up with the military in the first place.
...will somebody PLEASE think of the computers!! I mean children.... no wait computer... chil... comput...
which one are we worried about here?
What to people think about the prospect of this more widespread use of RFID? Is this something that will only lead to more credit card fraud, or will it provide more secure means of payment?
Fraud. All you have to do is take a small mobile credit card scanner and keep it in your pocket... walk around in a crouded shopping mall where everyones credit "cards" are in their pockets and see how many you can scan.
Notice that it's on a workstation... it's not the embedded system, thank god.
Linux is not made for mission critical applications (not yet). Sure you can reboot your workstation when something goes wrong, but it's a little tricky to hold down the power key for 5 seconds on a little bot millions of miles away.
I'm not dissin linux, I'm just not saying it's ready for that kind of dependibilty.
That's just what the RIAA needs... booze and guns...
Why not use the nanotubes for high temperature super conductors?
A.K.A. Fast @ss processors with minimal heat.
Or for more scientific and broader uses, much much much much better inductors (another boost to computers), solenoids (yea yea, same thing), electromagnets (umm, sort of different) for magnetic levitation used in maglev trains, etc...
Good times await.
Actually, the engineer should say that its about 5, but numbers aren't available that low, and we need to account for safety, so let's make it 10.
Actually the engineer usually multiplies it by 5 for safety... so 2 + 2 = 25.
note Gender as the word not SEX.
Gender:
The condition of being female or male; sex.
(American Heritage(R) Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition)
Yea, good job there.
As for the thinking differently That's bollocks, that's tied into the constructed social roles argument.
Hopefully this will cure your "non-difference" stance:
Read me
Me too
Don't forget me
I'll end with this one
Such ballocks.... indeed... (be sure to read the WHOLE article in each case...)
Physical characteristics aside... men and women think differently. End of story.
The philosophical and logical attack you have when presenting your arguments is entirely unscientific. You state statistics, probibilities, and analise human behavior on a purely social and artificial standpoint... much in the same effect as politicians actually choosing the most rational course of action for the government - that method is horrible at actually getting the job done.
The only way to fully understand a problem is to figure out what is going on below the surface. Your approach of analyzing social behavior and performance in the work place based on how they were brought up is like trying to understand a computer by measuing how hot the insides get and what kinds of noises it makes.... you can't.
I'm done with this argument.
They do matter, but they shouldn't, and don't have to, you don't need psyical power to be any of the categories defined.. there are plenty of other than male genders occupying these roles
Sure you don't need to be physically strong to be a cop, a construction worker... but those who are get the job done better (unless, of course, you have a desk job... which then goes into the argument of how men and women think differently). Frankly, a man who runs the same amount of time as a woman will most likely (I'm guessing around the 80% range) be faster than the woman. So which one is going to catch the fleeing fellon?
Differences like these aren't limited to sex either. Africans are better runners and jumpers, for example (longer achilles tendon). Every "race" is different, and with that difference comes different strong and weak points... just like sex. It's how nature "constructed" our world. It's our or world has been for a long long time. To think you can take yourself out of the constructed reality nature has put us in is arrogant and simply impossible without altering the very genes we're made of.
These are the Exception not the rule.
If the rule has so many expeptions (and it has more than you obviously think)... then it really isn't a rule. You need people for hard labor, you need physical ability, robots aren't doing all the work for us, you need agression in situations... just think police officers, mechanics, builders, technicians, etc... if there is a rule it is most definately not in your favor.
saying that the traits involved with being succesfull are Masculine... Moreso than this your go on to imply that Feminine traits are involved with lack of sucess!!
Yes. In certian matters absolutely yes. If you cannot see that your physical apperance/posture matters, then what kind of shell are you living in? When you are in direct contact with other people, apperance matters. As for being an engineer or a scientist, your brain matters (and not many scientists are that physically intimidating, like some in the business world). For that matter, men and women do think differently. Women more emotional, men less so (studies back this, I'm sorry that I cant link to them, but yes, of course there are a few exceptions). Even when working long hours into the night in any job, a little extra energy would help out (i.e. testestrone building stronger muscles with more stamina).
Frankly, in any case men and women generally will react differently (even in the slightest sense). So why fight it and say we are purely equal?
Think Transgendered, or girls or are brought up as boys, for the most part the Social (and that's what I'm talking about, social interactions) part of their lives are complete independant of their sex.
As you would put it, they are the exception... not the rule.
Performance differences are negligble between male and females.
BULLSHIT! It's called testosterone... Wanna go head to head in pushups? Why the hell do you think they have men and womens sports that are segregated off?
I'd give you lots and lots of examples of jobs where men would perform better (basically, on average anything that involves hard labor), but that's horribly obvious and anyone with a few braincells firing away would realise that.
Well what about for business? Intimidation is a big factor in getting the job done and getting your company what it needs when meeting with clients/peers. How do you intimidate? With pure looks and posture. Does a feminly posture intimidate? Hell no! Even take a man and make him a little feminine... I'd laugh at him in the business place.
There's a difference between men and women. If you don't understand it, take a frekin bio class at your local community college. We think differently, act differently, look differently, and perform differently. There's no way around it. That's just how nature made it...
Go ahead and say im using sexist language and all your other pseud-arguments to "prove" your point... you're wrong.