Is there anything out there in the Open Source realm that does this kind of distributed processing stuff. I know that each project is different and needs customized stuff, but a general program would work. Something like the following: Server - program to keep track of all stats send blocks, recieve answers, redundancy checks, a blank area for your own backend stuff, and maybe some HTML reports (cuz everyone wants to see this on the web:). Client - basic framework of how to receive problems, send answers. Then have an blank area in the code where people can add in there own stuff as a module. Licensing might be a problem, but I'd suggest that you leave the individual code as a sperate program thus the cutomized part wouldn't need to be under the GPL if the general part was GPL'd and a company wanted to use it. Maybe the LGPL? I don't know enough about all this stuff, but everybody seems to like playing with the distributed projects, it would make sense if there was a free version. I know there are arguments against opening the code (easier to fake answers), but couldn't redundant checks help that? -cpd
So are they trying to scare people away from the IPO? I mean the idea that the company is 1) planning on loosing money, 2) any body can take their product, and 3) their biggest competitor is M$, is probably gonna scare many investors away. I know all of these things, and understand why, and probably would invest in RH, but I use RH. These investors are just looking to see if they can make money off of this. Some investors are being told to worry over the buzzword bingo stocks. Then they hear none of the usual comforting things about a company from itself. Not sure if this was RH's best move. They might shoot themselves in the foot with this kind of talk. They really need to explain it better. Maybe have a laptop and show what RH6.0 looks like. Ohh shinny moving things. I mean the point is to get people to invest, right? -cpd
yeesh. They really put you on the spot. Now if you back out (not that you ever were in...) it might look bad. Think about how the media who got this will feel - "the high and mighty ones won't pay attention to us? Well then we'll just have to say bad things about them..." Not good journalism, but a somewhat standard response. Rob if you don't do this (not that I'm saying you should) you will need to tell your PR firm to send out a message that THEY (the PR) firm screwed up. Actually you should have them do that anyway. -cpd
"[Y]ou are not permitted to link to other sites that contain our copyrighted material without our authorization," the company wrote. "Accordingly, you must remove all images from our films as well as links to other sites that have our servers."
Is it me or does this say that they (Movie-List people) must detroy their films. Sorry I know what they meant but this is really bad english. "remove all images from our films" - huh? As well as "links to other sites that have our servers" - what's that mean? I can't link to a site that owns their server? Doesn't a server own a site? Argggghhh my head hurts. Can't translate. -cpd
Funny I don't think it bothers Rob $ co. too much to have their site's news linked elsewhere - http://www.redhat.com/news/slashdot/ maybe its just me. -cpd
I am all for open standards in this messaging stuff. It might even make for some interesting stuff especially if there are open servers. Open standards are definately something to cheer for. despite there being reasons for having closed forms of this - too many servers, spammers, etc - it is a good thing - open standards lead to more choices, choices are good, noone can subvert it etc. However I do wonder how long it would be before the open standards would lead to M$ trying to tweak theirs to make it run better. Kinda what they did with Java. I can't imagin M$ leaving something open and not trying to make it their own. -cpd
It might encourage strong encryption. Especially when congress realizes this includes them. And any email they send. And out of US people can't get the same strong encryption due to export laws so the FBI can now see that the white house is taking kick backs from china and... Ok there are a few too many conspiracy theories there, but if you really want to scare the congressmen make them realize thi will include any email they send, or receive. Include stuff from their lobbyists. -cpd
This sounds really cool, and I'd love to use it. But there is no way I'm gonna be the guinnea pig. Sorry,I wanna know how they can ensure several things first.
What happens if my plam does a reset? Actually by reading the site it seems like my payment never happens.
People can forge emails. What's to prevent them from forging email payments?
What credit card companies support this?
I'd really like to use this, it sounds nifty, now prove to me it works safely, and reliably. -cpd
*This product comes with complete source code except for the RSA encryption modules and 3rd party Application CD packages.
So while you seem to get the code I'm not sure its GPL or open source. At least part of it is proprietary, but maybe they will make it GPL and add the charge for the RSA part. Like leave the code incomplete you need something to do the encryption. Err something. I really have no idea and am just blathering.
In my department here there are 5 of us. I'm the youngest at 24, but the others are 27, 45, 51, 55. Me and the 27yr old could leave and there would be a burden on the others, but nothing that dramatic. Any of the older people leave and we're screwed. They know too much about how this place works (its a factory with a lot of automated stuff). My company would never knowingly get rid of them. I on the other hand.... As for hiring - the 51 yr old was hired 2 years ago. -cpd
Movies may not cause violence, but if all it takes is convincing someone to buy you tickets its a kinda bad thing. Really I wouldn't want my kid (if I had one) seeing South Park unless I was with him. So I'd be a little disturbed by someone just offering to bring him in. No he probably wouldn't be morally effected by it, but he might at least have questions about it, and I'd prefer to be there then him learning from his friends. I really don't think it should be that easy for kids to get in. Its also shouldn't be as difficult as you describe. Maybe we need ids for even youger children.
Then again my girlfriend and I had to take her father to see the movie cuz his wife wouldn't go see it. -cpd
Filing - Look at NYC airspace. They will route him completely around all controled (any altitude) airspace if you file a flight plan in that area. I do not know this from personal experience, I was told by someone who has been flying there for several years. Ditching - he was never -very- far from land. I believe if you look at the general track he was always in gliding distance of land. Do you carry a liferaft when flying over land? That's why he was at 5600 ft. Easy Route - I miswrote that. What I meant was that it was a route he knew. He knew that at time X this New London should be visible, Long Island should be here at these times, etc. I didn't mean that he would think oh I'm used to this. By your argument if I fly a lot then everything becomes easy. Then I get complacent at everything.
Personally I always file flight plans, but my area is kind to GA flights. Never have a problem. The nearest cities are Baltimore and Philly (I'm in DE). There is a LOT of open space here. If I had to fly through DC to take off I might be a little more lax about the flight plans (but flight following is a must).
So when can he fly at night? This is meant as slightly sarcastic, but seriously also. How many daylight hours should I have before I take 1 hour night. You always will have a threshold to cross and that threshold is VERY steep always.
People's opinions about the "combination" of mist and night had him disoriented is kinda silly in my opinion. Mist = you can't see much/anything. Night = you can only see shiny things. Mist & night = can't see anything. Just a nitpick but combination effects have nothing to do with it. -cpd
Most pilots I know would and could've done something similar. I am a pilot btw. Aparently filing a flight plan in NYC area will cause problems and get you really screwed up on your routing. Flying as he did is rather normal in NYC area. (Yeah he should've had flight following though) As for survival gear, yeah it was a mistake. It also wouldn't have made a difference he died on hitting the water. As for night and visual with few hours, come on. You know you've been flying at night before you private license. Its required. And its really not that difficult, and it was a route he knew, along a very populated coast. Very easy to follow. What I think he did was panic. He flew into a bank of mist/clouds, then decided to go low to get under them realized he was too low and not coming out of the mist, so he tried to do a climbing turn. He stalled and went into a spin. This is only my opinion. I think this actually is a reasonable view though. And actually is close to what you are trained to do. He just did it a little to steeply. The things you point out would not have saved him. More hours might have helped, but you can't get those hours without flying. Catch-22. -cpd
Well the reason the stock price went so high is relatively straight-forward. The market saw a low priced stock and thought that it could get higher, and then Ohhhh shinny buzzwords. Poing poing. Buzz buzz. mp3 buzz,.com buzz, intenet buzz. I feel like a ferret playing with shinny round objects. -cpd (if you miss the reference read www.sluggy.com)
I'm replying to myself to cover all the other replies to me.
OK some people still use floppies. They are the easiest to transfer small data between 2 computers. ESP when you are say a consultant at a client. They may not let you hook into their network, but they may want your docs. And buying an external floppy for a notebook kinda goes against, the idea of this - lightweight, compact, and easy. I still see this as a flaw. Maybe gimme the choice (like some PC laptops do) of a CD or floppy drive. I dunno, I don't like it. Then again I didn't like the iWhac either. -cpd
Chomp chomp. Pardon me - I'm trying to eat my words. This is where I retract some/most of what I said before. OK linux is working towards HA, but doesn't seem to have any fully functional right now (from a quick read of those links). And neither does M$. But I kinda have some questions. My concepts of HA might be slightly odd, but... These seem to use IP faking for failover. My understanding was that true HA somehow had shared memory resources and if a machine died you didn't loose anything. But I could be imagining things again.
OK silly thought of the day - can you have RAID machines? Work with me. Instead of disks, have machines, RAIM. So have like X+2 machines, X working, 1 doing CRC and 1 as um hot spare. Could you do HA this way? Sorry like I said its the silly thought du jour. I do not have enough knowledge to know weather this is even viable, let alone code-able -cpd
Actually I thought there were no HA/clustering abilities in Linux out there right now. I thought some were being worked on though. Yes other Unix have HA (I think) but not Linux. Uptime is presumably longer in Linux (I know of no proof other than anecdotal though), but that's not really HA. They are talking about backup systems, failover schtuff, etc. I.e. if the machine crashes there is another to step in. I don't think linux has this capability yet. Ok neither does NT though. But they're caliming plans for it. Does linux? -cpd
The words sprint, run, jog are technically synonyms too. Yet they convey different meanings. And they may mean different things to different people. To me Open Source means I can see and modify the source code. That's it. No other definitions to me. None. Free software - to me - means that it abides by the GPL (or LGPL I think). This means that anything under the BSD or Artistic or the Netscape liceneces is Open Source, yet not Free Software. -cpd
Well for one thing you don't know that it was Free Software in any sense of the word. It may have been under any other license not nessecarily GPL. I do presume you meant GPL by Free Software. There are numerous other ways P could have been released. Open Source by general definition covers more than Free (speech) Software. And really I would think one would like to be as descriptive as possible. The problem described doesn't effect Free Software alone, it effects Open Sourced Software. Just a technical difference. -cpd
Sophos cracked BO2K. Errr wrote a detector for it. We don't know the difference though. But they figured out the protocols and encryption schemes. Ohhh buzzwords. Those nasty cDc'ers didn't like Rouland and he showed them. He asked for a copy which is completely sensible as he's a good guy, but they don't like him. We won't mention that he wanted a copy before everyone else. We think this will allow them to control other computers. But we aren't sure what control it gives you, so we'll just blather on. Oh and insult them. They're kids. They are even infected. But not to worry any one M$ is right on top of it. They even issued gasp a warning. Its a toy but ISS warned the program could easily be used to delete files, reconfigure machines, steal passwords and redirect network traffic, without a user or administrator's knowledge. Isn't it amazing what toys can do now.
Slashdot Mirror
Is there anything out there in the Open Source realm that does this kind of distributed processing stuff. I know that each project is different and needs customized stuff, but a general program would work. Something like the following: :).
Server - program to keep track of all stats send blocks, recieve answers, redundancy checks, a blank area for your own backend stuff, and maybe some HTML reports (cuz everyone wants to see this on the web
Client - basic framework of how to receive problems, send answers. Then have an blank area in the code where people can add in there own stuff as a module.
Licensing might be a problem, but I'd suggest that you leave the individual code as a sperate program thus the cutomized part wouldn't need to be under the GPL if the general part was GPL'd and a company wanted to use it. Maybe the LGPL?
I don't know enough about all this stuff, but everybody seems to like playing with the distributed projects, it would make sense if there was a free version. I know there are arguments against opening the code (easier to fake answers), but couldn't redundant checks help that?
-cpd
So are they trying to scare people away from the IPO? I mean the idea that the company is 1) planning on loosing money, 2) any body can take their product, and 3) their biggest competitor is M$, is probably gonna scare many investors away. I know all of these things, and understand why, and probably would invest in RH, but I use RH. These investors are just looking to see if they can make money off of this. Some investors are being told to worry over the buzzword bingo stocks. Then they hear none of the usual comforting things about a company from itself. Not sure if this was RH's best move. They might shoot themselves in the foot with this kind of talk. They really need to explain it better. Maybe have a laptop and show what RH6.0 looks like. Ohh shinny moving things.
I mean the point is to get people to invest, right?
-cpd
I really have to like the irony of a post of
> Soak me
being moderated to Flamebait....
-cpd
yeesh. They really put you on the spot. Now if you back out (not that you ever were in...) it might look bad. Think about how the media who got this will feel - "the high and mighty ones won't pay attention to us? Well then we'll just have to say bad things about them..."
Not good journalism, but a somewhat standard response. Rob if you don't do this (not that I'm saying you should) you will need to tell your PR firm to send out a message that THEY (the PR) firm screwed up. Actually you should have them do that anyway.
-cpd
I guess there shouldn't be a post asking if this runs Linux. :)
But I suppose someone will metion an ancient mythical story that was redone from the moster's point of view.....
-cpd
Is it me or does this say that they (Movie-List people) must detroy their films. Sorry I know what they meant but this is really bad english. "remove all images from our films" - huh? As well as "links to other sites that have our servers" - what's that mean? I can't link to a site that owns their server? Doesn't a server own a site? Argggghhh my head hurts. Can't translate.
-cpd
Funny I don't think it bothers Rob $ co. too much to have their site's news linked elsewhere -
http://www.redhat.com/news/slashdot/
maybe its just me.
-cpd
I am all for open standards in this messaging stuff. It might even make for some interesting stuff especially if there are open servers. Open standards are definately something to cheer for. despite there being reasons for having closed forms of this - too many servers, spammers, etc - it is a good thing - open standards lead to more choices, choices are good, noone can subvert it etc. However I do wonder how long it would be before the open standards would lead to M$ trying to tweak theirs to make it run better. Kinda what they did with Java. I can't imagin M$ leaving something open and not trying to make it their own.
-cpd
Now I really need to get those Legos. Esp the sports add-on package. Part of me always wanted to be a sports hero :)
-cpd
It might encourage strong encryption. Especially when congress realizes this includes them. And any email they send. And out of US people can't get the same strong encryption due to export laws so the FBI can now see that the white house is taking kick backs from china and...
Ok there are a few too many conspiracy theories there, but if you really want to scare the congressmen make them realize thi will include any email they send, or receive. Include stuff from their lobbyists.
-cpd
I'd really like to use this, it sounds nifty, now prove to me it works safely, and reliably.
-cpd
So while you seem to get the code I'm not sure its GPL or open source. At least part of it is proprietary, but maybe they will make it GPL and add the charge for the RSA part. Like leave the code incomplete you need something to do the encryption. Err something.
I really have no idea and am just blathering.
In my department here there are 5 of us. I'm the youngest at 24, but the others are 27, 45, 51, 55. Me and the 27yr old could leave and there would be a burden on the others, but nothing that dramatic. Any of the older people leave and we're screwed. They know too much about how this place works (its a factory with a lot of automated stuff). My company would never knowingly get rid of them. I on the other hand....
As for hiring - the 51 yr old was hired 2 years ago.
-cpd
Movies may not cause violence, but if all it takes is convincing someone to buy you tickets its a kinda bad thing. Really I wouldn't want my kid (if I had one) seeing South Park unless I was with him. So I'd be a little disturbed by someone just offering to bring him in. No he probably wouldn't be morally effected by it, but he might at least have questions about it, and I'd prefer to be there then him learning from his friends. I really don't think it should be that easy for kids to get in. Its also shouldn't be as difficult as you describe. Maybe we need ids for even youger children.
Then again my girlfriend and I had to take her father to see the movie cuz his wife wouldn't go see it.
-cpd
Filing - Look at NYC airspace. They will route him completely around all controled (any altitude) airspace if you file a flight plan in that area. I do not know this from personal experience, I was told by someone who has been flying there for several years.
Ditching - he was never -very- far from land. I believe if you look at the general track he was always in gliding distance of land. Do you carry a liferaft when flying over land? That's why he was at 5600 ft.
Easy Route - I miswrote that. What I meant was that it was a route he knew. He knew that at time X this New London should be visible, Long Island should be here at these times, etc. I didn't mean that he would think oh I'm used to this. By your argument if I fly a lot then everything becomes easy. Then I get complacent at everything.
Personally I always file flight plans, but my area is kind to GA flights. Never have a problem. The nearest cities are Baltimore and Philly (I'm in DE). There is a LOT of open space here. If I had to fly through DC to take off I might be a little more lax about the flight plans (but flight following is a must).
So when can he fly at night? This is meant as slightly sarcastic, but seriously also. How many daylight hours should I have before I take 1 hour night. You always will have a threshold to cross and that threshold is VERY steep always.
People's opinions about the "combination" of mist and night had him disoriented is kinda silly in my opinion. Mist = you can't see much/anything. Night = you can only see shiny things. Mist & night = can't see anything. Just a nitpick but combination effects have nothing to do with it.
-cpd
Most pilots I know would and could've done something
similar. I am a pilot btw. Aparently filing a flight plan
in NYC area will cause problems and get you really
screwed up on your routing. Flying as he did is rather
normal in NYC area. (Yeah he should've had flight
following though) As for survival gear, yeah it was
a mistake. It also wouldn't have made a difference
he died on hitting the water. As for night and visual
with few hours, come on. You know you've been
flying at night before you private license. Its required.
And its really not that difficult, and it was a route he knew,
along a very populated coast. Very easy to follow.
What I think he did was panic. He flew into a bank
of mist/clouds, then decided to go low to get under them
realized he was too low and not coming out of the
mist, so he tried to do a climbing turn. He stalled
and went into a spin. This is only my opinion. I think
this actually is a reasonable view though. And actually
is close to what you are trained to do. He just did it
a little to steeply. The things you point out would
not have saved him. More hours might have helped,
but you can't get those hours without flying. Catch-22.
-cpd
Well the reason the stock price went so high is .com buzz,
relatively straight-forward. The market saw a low
priced stock and thought that it could get higher,
and then Ohhhh shinny buzzwords.
Poing poing. Buzz buzz. mp3 buzz,
intenet buzz.
I feel like a ferret playing with shinny round objects.
-cpd
(if you miss the reference read www.sluggy.com)
I'm replying to myself to cover all the other replies to me.
OK some people still use floppies. They are the
easiest to transfer small data between 2 computers.
ESP when you are say a consultant at a client.
They may not let you hook into their network,
but they may want your docs. And buying an
external floppy for a notebook kinda goes against,
the idea of this - lightweight, compact, and easy.
I still see this as a flaw. Maybe gimme the choice
(like some PC laptops do) of a CD or floppy drive.
I dunno, I don't like it. Then again I didn't like the
iWhac either.
-cpd
Yeah but does it have a disk drive?
I know of a few people who complained about that.
-cpd
It didn't go up much?
That's about a 40% jump.
That's actually quite a bit. Most companies never seet hat high of a jump. Ever.
-cpd
Chomp chomp. Pardon me - I'm trying to eat my words. This is where I retract some/most of what I said before. OK linux is working towards HA, but doesn't seem to have any fully functional right now (from a quick read of those links). And neither does M$.
But I kinda have some questions. My concepts of HA might be slightly odd, but...
These seem to use IP faking for failover. My understanding was that true HA somehow had shared memory resources and if a machine died you didn't loose anything. But I could be imagining things again.
OK silly thought of the day - can you have RAID machines? Work with me. Instead of disks, have machines, RAIM. So have like X+2 machines, X working, 1 doing CRC and 1 as um hot spare. Could you do HA this way? Sorry like I said its the silly thought du jour. I do not have enough knowledge to know weather this is even viable, let alone code-able
-cpd
Actually I thought there were no HA/clustering abilities in Linux out there right now. I thought some were being worked on though. Yes other Unix have HA (I think) but not Linux. Uptime is presumably longer in Linux (I know of no proof other than anecdotal though), but that's not really HA. They are talking about backup systems, failover schtuff, etc. I.e. if the machine crashes there is another to step in.
I don't think linux has this capability yet. Ok neither does NT though. But they're caliming plans for it. Does linux?
-cpd
The words sprint, run, jog are technically synonyms too. Yet they convey different meanings. And they may mean different things to different people. To me Open Source means I can see and modify the source code. That's it. No other definitions to me. None. Free software - to me - means that it abides by the GPL (or LGPL I think). This means that anything under the BSD or Artistic or the Netscape liceneces is Open Source, yet not Free Software.
-cpd
Well for one thing you don't know that it was Free Software in any sense of the word. It may have been under any other license not nessecarily GPL. I do presume you meant GPL by Free Software. There are numerous other ways P could have been released. Open Source by general definition covers more than Free (speech) Software. And really I would think one would like to be as descriptive as possible. The problem described doesn't effect Free Software alone, it effects Open Sourced Software. Just a technical difference.
-cpd
Below is my summary of the article....
Sophos cracked BO2K. Errr wrote a detector for it. We don't know the difference though. But they figured out the protocols and encryption schemes. Ohhh buzzwords.
Those nasty cDc'ers didn't like Rouland and he showed them. He asked for a copy which is completely sensible as he's a good guy, but they don't like him. We won't mention that he wanted a copy before everyone else.
We think this will allow them to control other computers. But we aren't sure what control it gives you, so we'll just blather on. Oh and insult them. They're kids. They are even infected.
But not to worry any one M$ is right on top of it. They even issued gasp a warning.
Its a toy but ISS warned the program could easily be used to delete files, reconfigure machines, steal passwords and redirect network traffic, without a user or administrator's knowledge.
Isn't it amazing what toys can do now.
Pardon the sarcasm.
-cpd