At uni most people that wouldnt know a mouse from a monitor happily use webmail (minerva.ex.ac.uk) on their personal computers - check out that. I dont know anyone using outlook - and this is normal people like history students, not comp sci*.
When they are actually on campus, they have a choice of eudora, simeon (I think), elm (ssh/telnet into an irix server), or webmail.
Why use outlook?
(* the majority of Exeter, UK's comp sci students dont know a mouse from a monitor either!)
"And if you haven't read any Harry Potter books, then you aren't qualified to complain;) "
I go the the same university as JK Rowling went to. TPTB are changning (strongly opposed) the name of the Free Tibet room the Harry Potter room. Theres a lot of anger arround the university regarding that.
I wouldnt mind, but We have other alumini that are more worthy! (Thom Yorke from Radiohead for one)
It's because American consumers aren't as quick to blow their money and these gadgets as they are in Europe.
Hmm, $50 for a mobile phone at 10 cents a text message means that even 10 yearolds have them. SMS is much more conveienent then email. And when you are happy to go and tip $30-40 on a meal in a resturant, its hardly "blowing your money".
The USA does have cheap fuel - albeit crap cars and crap mpg, and a few good TV progras (most are crap though). THats about it really.
Re:This has already happened...
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lets just look arround this house, which has a lot of x86's by comparrison. x86 computers are
Thats 5 x86's - twice as many as the average hi tech house
The obvious, big computers
1 oven
1 microwave
1 washing machine
1 dryer
1 dishwasher
4 tvs
2 vcrs
1 cable box
3 hifis
4 clock radios
1 doorbell
1 telephone
1 fax machine
1 video mixer
1 camcorder
1 digital camera
4 mobile (cell) phones
a few calculators
a psion
a managed ethernet switch
thats 30+ already, and I gave up going through the house before halfway through. Add 10 seperate comptuers in one car, another one in another car, a few watches, etc. you are up to a 90% range just off the top of my head.
And this is in the home, I dont want to think about work with all the body repair stuff!
In the average house there are at least 50 embedded processors- or "computers", and less then 1 x86 box. Then look at all the equipment out in the street.
The number of x86's in a pc dependent world is 1% given just that breakdown.
Re:Linux will be just as bad...discuss....
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It still requires a semi-competent sysadmin, but cron job of apt-get update/upgrade on a debian box will keep on top of major security holes.
Most infected code red machines that are elft are users that dont know they are infected, or even running IIS. They wouldnt bother trawling through microsofts lengthly download routine, read (heh - right) EULA's etc to install a patch they dont even think they need.
With apt-get, and similar systems, they keep all their software bang upto date, and as a side affect, they dont even need to know they need the patch. You could click a little box on install which says "keep my computer uptodate with the latest security patches and dont bug me again", and perhaps have it set up by default.
Yes, a box is only secure as the admin, but at least gaping holes like code red will be patched asap.
Something similar happened to me when I ran botf.com
The day after I left for a 3 week sail in summer 1999, my ISP received an anonymous tipoff - at least they wouldnt tell me who, although I have an idea.
The ISP shut the account down straight away, including email access. They then emailed me on webmaster@botf.com with an explanation. Naturally it was unreadable, as I couldnt log in.
About a week after I left I popped into an internet cafe to see what was going on, unfortunatly I couldnt read my botf email, hence had no contact with my ISP.
when I got back, eventually it sorted itself out. I refused to pay for the time though, and as the site had pretty much crumbled to bits (3 weeks with no site means people dont come back), I contacted my credit card company and told them to hold payment.
Why did they shut me down? I had 5 mp3's for download - these were mp3 versions of the wavs freely available on microprose's site. I had had permission to mirror the samples on my site.
The (5) samples were also in a zip file.
The ISP had heard about these files, obviously not researched them or contacted me - and just shut the site down ASAP.
I will never use them again, needless to say. I hadnt been with them long, having just moved from a wonderful ISP, that unfortunatly couldnt offer me the facilities I needed. I have 2 domains with them now, and couldnt be happier with allwebco. Unfortunatly I forget the name of the ISP that shut me down - I think they went out of buisness.
These mp3's were legal, but because of the hysteria of "mp3 == bad" arround then (and still arround today), I lost something ver dear to me.
Ahh well, the game sucked anyway:)
Re:no text only browsers (and why?)
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really how much information (I am intrested in )is presented in pictures on the web
not much I am sure
I close those windows before they even have a chance to load their content
I used to do, its infeasable now though, as these pages load instantly. I have to deny them now. I still need javascript popups for some applications (internet banking for one), so I cant stop that.
So it starts again, with bbs's, then a couple of nearby bbs's link with a cat 5 cable, or a leased line, or a wireless ethernet. Eventually qwehave comletely free network of wireless networks across the city, linked to other cities by modem links. The modems get upgraded, people co-locate near the gateways to other cities and countries, and we have a whole new internet. Then the government regulates it again and we're back to square 1.
>stronger video editing offerings Who the fuck do you think started SDL and SMPEG?
Yeah mod me down for flame, but he's got a good ppoint mr dumbass moderator. Withoutloki SDL and SMPEG wouldnt be arround - which would just be bad. We also wouldnt have that loki book - linux games prorgamming, which will hopfully start some more opensource projects.
Yup, thats me, but its summer I've got a job - and I've halved my overdraft. I bought a loki game last month (SMAC), and Ive gt RT2. I'm going to order a game now, I'd/like/ CivCTP, but tuxgames said its out of print.
Remember a $20 game is only arround (a guess) $5 to loki.
We had a wonderful school map in the duke nukem 3d engine. only 2 levels, and we had it all linked by teleporters. It was great fun on open days though:)
Linux is hard to admin, but I have friends that walked in and use my compter with no problems, they can barely use windows. (OK, I have Enlightenment and virtual desktops so they were shocked when their windo scrolled off the screen)
Its hard for a computer admin (I.E. for home computers), but not for the end user. KDE, QVWM and the like offer a comfortable (ugly) windows-alike appearence so anyone can do their daily chores. They dont have to install software,set up dial up networking or anything in the office, they justhave to write the letter. Once linux is set u there is no problems. Different permissions for different users (i.e. users, root etc) mean thatit is less likely to need re-installing every few months.
As for the "elite linux user" crowd, they dont want to be bothered by peope asking "where is my start button" for the 5th time that day. Sites like www.linuxjunior.org are the places to go to for that sort of help.
I've been using linux exclusivly for 6 months, and using it as my main OS for 18 months, yet I have only just ventured into some of the more technical mailing lists. It was 6 months before I understood HOWTO's, but NHF's, PETS and helpful people on newbie discussion boards (LJR, LNO), got me on the right track.
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mohs scale is relative hardness, ranging (traditionally) from talc at 1 to diamond at 10
Cant remember it all, but quartz was 7 IIRC.
Doesnt work on a mac (according to cdnow). What if you don have autorun enabled in windows (is that still an option?), have dos, windows 3.1 etc.
Whatif you dont have a motherboard and just have power to the cdrom drive and the play button on the front?
At uni most people that wouldnt know a mouse from a monitor happily use webmail (minerva.ex.ac.uk) on their personal computers - check out that. I dont know anyone using outlook - and this is normal people like history students, not comp sci*.
When they are actually on campus, they have a choice of eudora, simeon (I think), elm (ssh/telnet into an irix server), or webmail.
Why use outlook?
(* the majority of Exeter, UK's comp sci students dont know a mouse from a monitor either!)
(Of course, we never did see the TOS bowling alley. Maybe they'll have one.)
I'd love to play with the artifiial gravity on one of those!
"And if you haven't read any Harry Potter books, then you aren't qualified to complain ;) "
I go the the same university as JK Rowling went to. TPTB are changning (strongly opposed) the name of the Free Tibet room the Harry Potter room. Theres a lot of anger arround the university regarding that.
I wouldnt mind, but We have other alumini that are more worthy! (Thom Yorke from Radiohead for one)
As long as some of our script kiddies eventually grow out that larval stage, we'll be the kings of computers
You produce script kiddies, and Gates, while we produce Berners-Lee and Torvalds...
It's because American consumers aren't as quick to blow their money and these gadgets as they are in Europe.
Hmm, $50 for a mobile phone at 10 cents a text message means that even 10 yearolds have them. SMS is much more conveienent then email. And when you are happy to go and tip $30-40 on a meal in a resturant, its hardly "blowing your money".
The USA does have cheap fuel - albeit crap cars and crap mpg, and a few good TV progras (most are crap though). THats about it really.
lets just look arround this house, which has a lot of x86's by comparrison. x86 computers are
2x laptops (one win3.1 & one linux)
3x desktops (2 linux, 1 win98)
Thats 5 x86's - twice as many as the average hi tech house
The obvious, big computers
1 oven
1 microwave
1 washing machine
1 dryer
1 dishwasher
4 tvs
2 vcrs
1 cable box
3 hifis
4 clock radios
1 doorbell
1 telephone
1 fax machine
1 video mixer
1 camcorder
1 digital camera
4 mobile (cell) phones
a few calculators
a psion
a managed ethernet switch
thats 30+ already, and I gave up going through the house before halfway through. Add 10 seperate comptuers in one car, another one in another car, a few watches, etc. you are up to a 90% range just off the top of my head.
And this is in the home, I dont want to think about work with all the body repair stuff!
In the average house there are at least 50 embedded processors- or "computers", and less then 1 x86 box. Then look at all the equipment out in the street.
The number of x86's in a pc dependent world is 1% given just that breakdown.
It still requires a semi-competent sysadmin, but cron job of apt-get update/upgrade on a debian box will keep on top of major security holes.
Most infected code red machines that are elft are users that dont know they are infected, or even running IIS. They wouldnt bother trawling through microsofts lengthly download routine, read (heh - right) EULA's etc to install a patch they dont even think they need.
With apt-get, and similar systems, they keep all their software bang upto date, and as a side affect, they dont even need to know they need the patch. You could click a little box on install which says "keep my computer uptodate with the latest security patches and dont bug me again", and perhaps have it set up by default.
Yes, a box is only secure as the admin, but at least gaping holes like code red will be patched asap.
Anybody with more legal experience cares to comment?
On slashdot?
lol!
Something similar happened to me when I ran botf.com
:)
The day after I left for a 3 week sail in summer 1999, my ISP received an anonymous tipoff - at least they wouldnt tell me who, although I have an idea.
The ISP shut the account down straight away, including email access. They then emailed me on webmaster@botf.com with an explanation. Naturally it was unreadable, as I couldnt log in.
About a week after I left I popped into an internet cafe to see what was going on, unfortunatly I couldnt read my botf email, hence had no contact with my ISP.
when I got back, eventually it sorted itself out. I refused to pay for the time though, and as the site had pretty much crumbled to bits (3 weeks with no site means people dont come back), I contacted my credit card company and told them to hold payment.
Why did they shut me down? I had 5 mp3's for download - these were mp3 versions of the wavs freely available on microprose's site. I had had permission to mirror the samples on my site.
The (5) samples were also in a zip file.
The ISP had heard about these files, obviously not researched them or contacted me - and just shut the site down ASAP.
I will never use them again, needless to say. I hadnt been with them long, having just moved from a wonderful ISP, that unfortunatly couldnt offer me the facilities I needed. I have 2 domains with them now, and couldnt be happier with allwebco. Unfortunatly I forget the name of the ISP that shut me down - I think they went out of buisness.
These mp3's were legal, but because of the hysteria of "mp3 == bad" arround then (and still arround today), I lost something ver dear to me.
Ahh well, the game sucked anyway
really how much information (I am intrested in )is presented in pictures on the web
not much I am sure
No, just a few million terrabytes of pr0n!
I close those windows before they even have a chance to load their content
I used to do, its infeasable now though, as these pages load instantly. I have to deny them now. I still need javascript popups for some applications (internet banking for one), so I cant stop that.
hence the follow up, guess I really should check my posts first :)
I'm still waiting for slashdot to mirror smaller sites, adverts are no good to the site if no one can get there in the first place!
well, maybe not that cache, as its over a month old, but go find another one, please!
When Enterprise was annouced, trektoday/trekbbs was slashdotted all day. Same again this time? Use a fscking cache, /please/
So it starts again, with bbs's, then a couple of nearby bbs's link with a cat 5 cable, or a leased line, or a wireless ethernet. Eventually qwehave comletely free network of wireless networks across the city, linked to other cities by modem links. The modems get upgraded, people co-locate near the gateways to other cities and countries, and we have a whole new internet. Then the government regulates it again and we're back to square 1.
Score:1, Insightful
maybe +1 funny is b0rked?
has the US army something better or have they not realized the potential of it?
Congratulations, you've just tipped them off. You have started world war 3, and got modded up fo it. Thaks!
95%* of windows non-games are warez. The rest are budled with your compuer.
/do/ use linux
When was the last time you saw someone actualy buying a copy of office 2000 professional for home use?
So thats not it. I'm not going to spend my precious time rattleing off the usual reasons people
I want to play commercial games. I don hae windows. Hence I must buy loki games - simple as that.
>stronger video editing offerings Who the fuck do you think started SDL and SMPEG?
Yeah mod me down for flame, but he's got a good ppoint mr dumbass moderator. Withoutloki SDL and SMPEG wouldnt be arround - which would just be bad. We also wouldnt have that loki book - linux games prorgamming, which will hopfully start some more opensource projects.
I know many of us are starving college students
/like/ CivCTP, but tuxgames said its out of print.
Yup, thats me, but its summer I've got a job - and I've halved my overdraft. I bought a loki game last month (SMAC), and Ive gt RT2. I'm going to order a game now, I'd
Remember a $20 game is only arround (a guess) $5 to loki.
Company just IPO'ed? Get two of each
lol
LOL
We had a wonderful school map in the duke nukem 3d engine. only 2 levels, and we had it all linked by teleporters. It was great fun on open days though :)
I woner if it is still arround..
They can have all the eye-candy disguised as ease of use they want on their home computers.
:)
Erm, eyecandy? Ever been to themes.org? Ever run xplanet? Ever run Enlightenment with the ripple effect?
Linux has much more eyecandy available then windows
BTW, plenty of good points there too!
Linux is hard to admin, but I have friends that walked in and use my compter with no problems, they can barely use windows. (OK, I have Enlightenment and virtual desktops so they were shocked when their windo scrolled off the screen)
Its hard for a computer admin (I.E. for home computers), but not for the end user. KDE, QVWM and the like offer a comfortable (ugly) windows-alike appearence so anyone can do their daily chores. They dont have to install software,set up dial up networking or anything in the office, they justhave to write the letter. Once linux is set u there is no problems. Different permissions for different users (i.e. users, root etc) mean thatit is less likely to need re-installing every few months.
As for the "elite linux user" crowd, they dont want to be bothered by peope asking "where is my start button" for the 5th time that day. Sites like www.linuxjunior.org are the places to go to for that sort of help.
I've been using linux exclusivly for 6 months, and using it as my main OS for 18 months, yet I have only just ventured into some of the more technical mailing lists. It was 6 months before I understood HOWTO's, but NHF's, PETS and helpful people on newbie discussion boards (LJR, LNO), got me on the right track.