Somebody ought to mod this up. This is what we have wrought. Take a good look.
The source of 90% of the JFK conspiracy material comes from the fact that everybody, the secret service, Lyndon, the FBI, the CIA, the army, the innocent bystanders... everybody was acting as guilty as hell.
Just like today.
The Dallas police would not admit that Ruby dropped off bribes from the mob all the time, the secret service would not admit they let an old man nobody had the guts to question drive the limo, the CIA would not admit they hire psychopaths to do their dirty work, the army and the FBI would not admit that they put ego over national security, and we have a conspiracy theory that will never, ever, ever die.
Look around. The Israelis won't admit that they manipulate the American people to their advantage, the air force won't admit that they're lazy and complacent, the White House won't admit that they chose politics over lives and did everything possible to make sure the president didn't get the chance to order the planes shot down, the CIA won't admit that they never really came up with a system for getting their terrorism warnings to anyone outside the executive branch, Bush won't admit that he never really understood the terrorism warnings, his staff won't admit that they didn't really either, and Karl won't admit that his campaign plan for ignoring the rest of the world and focusing on cutting taxes didn't work as well as he had hoped.
Only this time, the conspiracy theory won't just reveal how bad an idea it was to let our guard down around J. Edgar Hoover. We currently have a situation where the Bush administration is actually encouraging people to believe that the US kills it's own people, that Israeli agents are hiding in every protest, that the New World Order is here, and that there is no recourse left but all-out war. We're combining Militia mythology with anti-semitism, and setting it against the Elightenment.
I'd rather have a nice nuclear war, at least plutonium has a half-life.
They've let a whole pile out of Gitmo since they started that thing up. Some of them are just getting sent to Saudi Arabia or wherever to get their nuts set on fire, but most of them were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Of course, none of them have ever been accused of terrorism, the only accusation anybody at Gitmo specifically gets is "you're the worst of the worst". The 13 year olds and the 15 year old Canadian they sent along for buttsex are still in there though, so don't worry.
And then there was this one. And of course, although Ashcroft wasn't in charge yet back then, I doubt he'd be more rational than the last guy.
I've always been freaked out about those things. I had a friend with the whole setup in his house. Had those giant-ass keypads all the hell over that they actually had the balls to stick those stereo equalizer sound meter things on. Slam the door and it goes all crazy, would scare the shit out of me. I always ended up exhausted by the time I got out of there from trying to avoid mentioning anything illegal.
"Blah blah blah blah dime bag..." *OCCUPANT YOU HAVE COMMITTED AN ERROR A CRIMINAL HAS TRICKED YOU INTO LETTING HIM IN PLEASE DUCK TO AVOID PHASER PACIFICATION* "Jesus God no!"
If you've been through smallpox epidemics with 30-50% fatality rates, 0.1% looks pretty good.
Vaccines are a risk, so is all medicine. I apparently spent a few hours in a tub of ice at the hospital when I was 1 or whatever after my measles vaccine gave me measles. I'll take that over a 25% chance of getting measles at some random point later on where the diagnosis wouldn't have been so easy and treatment wouldn't have been as accessible.
Well, I think he's a acid freak who switched from atheism to worshiping a Roman snake god after it broke into his living room and demanded worshipping in the middle of his 'shroom trip. But then again I've been seen wandering around in a Hawaiian shirt and a power tie too.
He's not really anti-science, at least not that much. It's not like he's claiming that magic is "real", he's just decided to take the stance that, as a human, who live just as much in their imaginations as in the real world, magic and talking snakes ought to be just as real to him as anything else. It's pothead philosophy, but it seems to make him happy.
Anyway, the one blatantly anti-science thing he does --"Jack B. Quick" from Tommorrow Stories-- is pretty funny anyway. You have this 9 year old geek who builds impossible things based on misunderstood physics. Flying buttered cats, quantum vacuum cleaners, that kind of shit. Then he runs around causing chaos and traumatizing everybody else, but never really notices since he always manages to make all of his disasters cancel each other out at the last minute. I think that's more of an classical hippie environmentalist point than anything else, though.
"Don't worry Mom, that flying saucer won't get far, thanks to my tractor beam!" "Now, son, would that be a beam that somehow tows the craft back to earth like a tractor?" "That's an interesting idea, Dad, but I don't think it's scientifically realistic. My tractor beam just picks up your tractor and throws it at the darn thing." *KLANG*
Worth buying, if only for the horrible, horriblly wrong joke that comes right after that quote.
Ooookay. You can't do shit in electrical or chemical engineering without running into the Standard Model. Just because you don't know how an MRI works doesn't mean that they built it using 1700s science.
Why Cablevision. If I've learned anything from the Cablevision/Clearview Cinemas/The WIZ trifecta from hell, it's that within 5 years this VOIP service will cost me $60 a month and will have been canceled for a year somewhere in the middle to pay for adding a sixth Lifetime channel to their basic package.
We already have car inspections. Aircar inspections will just be a little more in-depth and less lenient.
I'm sure aircar crashes will make much worse publicity than regular car crashes, but the lower chances of collision and the faster travel time will almost certaintly decrease the death toll overall. You just have to make sure the aircar companies get real cozy with Congress like the airlines did.
There's a pretty good explosion in the front section after the back has collapsed. Near the end, the front stays up on a leftover bubble of hydrogen, but as it leaks out the nose, it sinks down, air gets pushed in through the hole where the back end used to be, and there's a pretty good pop, if not a real explosion, that blows apart the top near the front and sends the whole thing down really quickly.
How do you think the telephone, cable, rail, and airport infrastructure got built?
By shelling out orders of magnitude more than the resulting infastructure would ever be worth to major campaign contributors? It's an idea, I guess, but I think you meant to stick at least one item in there that wasn't a blatantly corrupt losing proposition for the public.
Ah, come on, just send up a circular saw or two. What're the chances that any of the thousands of deadly steel shards of hurtling doom will hit anything vital?
They didn't really bring it into the bay, they kinda held it nearby with the arm, but it's not like they folded the whole thing up and closed the doors. They could've put it in the bay, but then they wouldn't have had enough room in there to do any work.
How the hell do you think infrared photography works?
"Hey, what's with all these black pieces of paper on your desk?" "Oh, that's just some stuff from the infrared observatory." "But, there's nothing on them!" "No, no, no, it's just in infrared ink. We've got these trained snakes, see..." "Uhhh..." "Hold on a second... POTTER! Get your magicky ass in here and tell me what li'l Medusa says about the doppler shift on this supernova!"
What if you hated the only two resturants in the city? Would you then ask your city to open one up?
Probably. If only for the contribution to the public good which is keeping me from trying to cook anything. What the hell are we paying them for if not to give us shit that we need?
Indeed! Imagine what detail we'd get moving the lens 0.00000000000000000000000000001% closer to that nebula! And for just $100 billion worth of fuel, booster technology, spacewalks and supply launches! You'd have to be a fool not to jump at that chance!
I'd point out that neither Saddam Hussein nor the etherial virgins are particularly Islamic. The Christian analogues would be, say, Stalin and Hess toy trucks. Stalin's from a country that has some vague Christian tradition, and the Hess trucks sure seem to show up around Christmas, but we wouldn't exactly call either one a Christain icon.
I still don't get this. How is it impossible to be unbiased? Just because everybody hires former underwear models to do their news rather than journalists doesn't mean that journalists are mythical fairy creaures that never existed. We've had 600-odd years to figure this stuff out, and believe it or not, we actually came up with an entire field just for figuring out how to be unbiased. Many people have taken advantage of that knowledge, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity have not.
Anyway, I like Chris too. He's not exactly a quality news source, but it's funny when his producer invites Anne Coulter on as a "Constitutional scholar" and he just spends the whole show yelling at her for being an idiot.
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Somebody ought to mod this up. This is what we have wrought. Take a good look.
The source of 90% of the JFK conspiracy material comes from the fact that everybody, the secret service, Lyndon, the FBI, the CIA, the army, the innocent bystanders... everybody was acting as guilty as hell.
Just like today.
The Dallas police would not admit that Ruby dropped off bribes from the mob all the time, the secret service would not admit they let an old man nobody had the guts to question drive the limo, the CIA would not admit they hire psychopaths to do their dirty work, the army and the FBI would not admit that they put ego over national security, and we have a conspiracy theory that will never, ever, ever die.
Look around. The Israelis won't admit that they manipulate the American people to their advantage, the air force won't admit that they're lazy and complacent, the White House won't admit that they chose politics over lives and did everything possible to make sure the president didn't get the chance to order the planes shot down, the CIA won't admit that they never really came up with a system for getting their terrorism warnings to anyone outside the executive branch, Bush won't admit that he never really understood the terrorism warnings, his staff won't admit that they didn't really either, and Karl won't admit that his campaign plan for ignoring the rest of the world and focusing on cutting taxes didn't work as well as he had hoped.
Only this time, the conspiracy theory won't just reveal how bad an idea it was to let our guard down around J. Edgar Hoover. We currently have a situation where the Bush administration is actually encouraging people to believe that the US kills it's own people, that Israeli agents are hiding in every protest, that the New World Order is here, and that there is no recourse left but all-out war. We're combining Militia mythology with anti-semitism, and setting it against the Elightenment.
I'd rather have a nice nuclear war, at least plutonium has a half-life.
That's why he only got charged with some kinda hanging-out-with-guys-that-shot-at-us thing.
They've let a whole pile out of Gitmo since they started that thing up. Some of them are just getting sent to Saudi Arabia or wherever to get their nuts set on fire, but most of them were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Of course, none of them have ever been accused of terrorism, the only accusation anybody at Gitmo specifically gets is "you're the worst of the worst". The 13 year olds and the 15 year old Canadian they sent along for buttsex are still in there though, so don't worry.
And then there was this one. And of course, although Ashcroft wasn't in charge yet back then, I doubt he'd be more rational than the last guy.
Aaahhhh! Ahhh! Ahh! Aaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaahhhaaaahhhhh!
Non-violence needs some role models that haven't been shot by the people they were trying to make friends with.
I've always been freaked out about those things. I had a friend with the whole setup in his house. Had those giant-ass keypads all the hell over that they actually had the balls to stick those stereo equalizer sound meter things on. Slam the door and it goes all crazy, would scare the shit out of me. I always ended up exhausted by the time I got out of there from trying to avoid mentioning anything illegal.
"Blah blah blah blah dime bag..."
*OCCUPANT YOU HAVE COMMITTED AN ERROR A CRIMINAL HAS TRICKED YOU INTO LETTING HIM IN PLEASE DUCK TO AVOID PHASER PACIFICATION*
"Jesus God no!"
If you've been through smallpox epidemics with 30-50% fatality rates, 0.1% looks pretty good.
Vaccines are a risk, so is all medicine. I apparently spent a few hours in a tub of ice at the hospital when I was 1 or whatever after my measles vaccine gave me measles. I'll take that over a 25% chance of getting measles at some random point later on where the diagnosis wouldn't have been so easy and treatment wouldn't have been as accessible.
That is the sound of ultimate suffering.
Well, I think he's a acid freak who switched from atheism to worshiping a Roman snake god after it broke into his living room and demanded worshipping in the middle of his 'shroom trip. But then again I've been seen wandering around in a Hawaiian shirt and a power tie too.
He's not really anti-science, at least not that much. It's not like he's claiming that magic is "real", he's just decided to take the stance that, as a human, who live just as much in their imaginations as in the real world, magic and talking snakes ought to be just as real to him as anything else. It's pothead philosophy, but it seems to make him happy.
Anyway, the one blatantly anti-science thing he does --"Jack B. Quick" from Tommorrow Stories-- is pretty funny anyway. You have this 9 year old geek who builds impossible things based on misunderstood physics. Flying buttered cats, quantum vacuum cleaners, that kind of shit. Then he runs around causing chaos and traumatizing everybody else, but never really notices since he always manages to make all of his disasters cancel each other out at the last minute. I think that's more of an classical hippie environmentalist point than anything else, though.
"Don't worry Mom, that flying saucer won't get far, thanks to my tractor beam!"
"Now, son, would that be a beam that somehow tows the craft back to earth like a tractor?"
"That's an interesting idea, Dad, but I don't think it's scientifically realistic. My tractor beam just picks up your tractor and throws it at the darn thing."
*KLANG*
Worth buying, if only for the horrible, horriblly wrong joke that comes right after that quote.
Ooookay. You can't do shit in electrical or chemical engineering without running into the Standard Model. Just because you don't know how an MRI works doesn't mean that they built it using 1700s science.
You are a fucking genius.
Why Cablevision. If I've learned anything from the Cablevision/Clearview Cinemas/The WIZ trifecta from hell, it's that within 5 years this VOIP service will cost me $60 a month and will have been canceled for a year somewhere in the middle to pay for adding a sixth Lifetime channel to their basic package.
If X is less than Y...
We already have car inspections. Aircar inspections will just be a little more in-depth and less lenient.
I'm sure aircar crashes will make much worse publicity than regular car crashes, but the lower chances of collision and the faster travel time will almost certaintly decrease the death toll overall. You just have to make sure the aircar companies get real cozy with Congress like the airlines did.
I was thinking the second half of that was odder. What, exactly, is a nonflammable fuel?
There's a pretty good explosion in the front section after the back has collapsed. Near the end, the front stays up on a leftover bubble of hydrogen, but as it leaks out the nose, it sinks down, air gets pushed in through the hole where the back end used to be, and there's a pretty good pop, if not a real explosion, that blows apart the top near the front and sends the whole thing down really quickly.
How do you think the telephone, cable, rail, and airport infrastructure got built?
By shelling out orders of magnitude more than the resulting infastructure would ever be worth to major campaign contributors? It's an idea, I guess, but I think you meant to stick at least one item in there that wasn't a blatantly corrupt losing proposition for the public.
Phone service is more important than public education and transportation? I don't know what universe you live in, but it sounds crazy.
Ah, come on, just send up a circular saw or two. What're the chances that any of the thousands of deadly steel shards of hurtling doom will hit anything vital?
They didn't really bring it into the bay, they kinda held it nearby with the arm, but it's not like they folded the whole thing up and closed the doors. They could've put it in the bay, but then they wouldn't have had enough room in there to do any work.
How the hell do you think infrared photography works?
"Hey, what's with all these black pieces of paper on your desk?"
"Oh, that's just some stuff from the infrared observatory."
"But, there's nothing on them!"
"No, no, no, it's just in infrared ink. We've got these trained snakes, see..."
"Uhhh..."
"Hold on a second... POTTER! Get your magicky ass in here and tell me what li'l Medusa says about the doppler shift on this supernova!"
What if you hated the only two resturants in the city? Would you then ask your city to open one up?
Probably. If only for the contribution to the public good which is keeping me from trying to cook anything. What the hell are we paying them for if not to give us shit that we need?
Which space program did you say you worked for?
Indeed! Imagine what detail we'd get moving the lens 0.00000000000000000000000000001% closer to that nebula! And for just $100 billion worth of fuel, booster technology, spacewalks and supply launches! You'd have to be a fool not to jump at that chance!
I'd point out that neither Saddam Hussein nor the etherial virgins are particularly Islamic. The Christian analogues would be, say, Stalin and Hess toy trucks. Stalin's from a country that has some vague Christian tradition, and the Hess trucks sure seem to show up around Christmas, but we wouldn't exactly call either one a Christain icon.
I still don't get this. How is it impossible to be unbiased? Just because everybody hires former underwear models to do their news rather than journalists doesn't mean that journalists are mythical fairy creaures that never existed. We've had 600-odd years to figure this stuff out, and believe it or not, we actually came up with an entire field just for figuring out how to be unbiased. Many people have taken advantage of that knowledge, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity have not.
Anyway, I like Chris too. He's not exactly a quality news source, but it's funny when his producer invites Anne Coulter on as a "Constitutional scholar" and he just spends the whole show yelling at her for being an idiot.