Who are you to determine what is "Open Source Compliant?" If you have the source to it, it is Open Source....
Actually, Open Source (tm) is a registered trademark of the Open Source Initiative. You are not allowed to call your product Open Source unless it is licensed after one of these licenses. --
Yes! One of the biggest hassles that the koffice team works on, is the import filters. These are extremely important to have in order to recruit users of certain other suites, but they take a lot of work to develop. It doesn't help that Corel, which has sworn it's support to KDE, won't donate their excellent filter code to koffice. Hopefully they should be able to use the ones in staroffice though! --
theKompany, which are the guys behind Visual Python, also supports the development of KDE Studio which is a C++ IDE that in many respects are more advanced than KDevelop. Have a look at some nifty screenshots here.
They also finance two developers working on KWord for two years. Great initiative. --
For the GNOME project, this has got to be extremely promising. The GNOME camp faces extreme competition from KDE2 with it's excellent Konqueror web browser. Their intermediate answer (or not) is GtkHTML, which is actually a rework of the KHTML component of KDE1. GtkHTML is not meant to be a full fledged web browser though. I've heard talk about making a Mozilla bonobo component, and this has already been done although it's in extremely early development. So why not do a dedicated GNOME web browser out of the already existing, open source and quite excellent gecko code? They can "rip off" mozilla but not Konqueror because of it's heavy dependence of Qt. I'm not a GNOME user, but I wish this project all the best luck! --
Re:What the **** does this have to do with Linux
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But you have to understand that/. can't state somethng like "It's amazing how much progress KDE has made in the last few years.", so they generalize, and wrongfully at that. My guess is that at GNOMEs third birthday, they'll state "It's amazing how much progress GNOME has made in the last few years.";-)
There's some nifty screenshots here, showing Kylix being run both under GNOME and KDE.
Kylix is sure to unleash a flood of new GUI applications for Linux, as "anyone" will be able to build the GUIs, and many should be able to learn the Pascal language. Many traditional, popular Windows applications may be ported as well. All in all, Kylix will be great for Linux! --
Have you ever watched an absolute newbie trying to read some web pages? The first thing they try to click is the banner ads. I often find myself explaining, "no, don't click there, that's just an ad". Of course, gaining experience, they learn to seperate ads from real content, but it does take time.
Pop-up banner ads are probably even more efficient in this respect:)
Go here for UFO - Unmaintained Free software and Open source projects. It's hosted by Bernhard Rosenkraenzer of Red Hat, who is also a contributor to the KDE project, which is the reason why/. ignores UFO (yes I'm joking). --
These are crazy days, when microsoft provide downloadables in GNU Zip!:) --
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Oh, did you expect these dimwits to *understand* the technology they want to put away? --
This will be incredibly stupid...
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The RIAA just doesn't get it. They have no clue, and there's no consequence analysis to their reasoning.
Shut Napster down, and MP3 sharing will move deeper underground, down where they'll NEVER have any hope of controlling the music piracy. FreeNet and Gnutella, they're both easily more robust and resistant to such control than Napster, which relies on one central, easily controllable server.
As bandwidth increases everywhere, MP3 trading will go on, and it will increase substantially as
even more users get online
freenet and gnutella gets better and more accessible
Napster is their big, one-time chance to gain at least some control, like Metallica et al has. Their killing it off speaks volumes of their ignorance. I only hope it happens. --
It doesn't matter much if ReiserFS gets into linux 2.4. What matters is that distributions will be head over heals to include ReiserFS, even long before kernel 2.4.
SuSE already have ReiserFS, and Mandrake 7.1 has it as well. Other's *will* follow shortly. The FS is only an option, and will not install by default, but aware people will have read the reports of the stability and coolness of ReiserFS, and will opt to install it. That's how ReiserFS will conquer the Linux world -- bottom up:) --
Mandrake 7.1 acutally *is* out, here's a mention
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Of course, you're just a troll, since anyone capable of typing in "slashdot.org" in the address field readily knows Java needs a VM and people have tried to write kernels in Java and failed:)
As for C++ porting, this has been debated and probably still is, but it isn't going to happen because many people feel there's a performance overhead with the added complexity of OO.
Try, however a "grep goto\ * -r | wc -l" on the kernel sources and you'll be shocked by the extensive usage of "the four letter word". While this is probably efficient, it makes for incomprehensible spaghetti code and should be cleaned up in for 2.5 imho:)
Eric Raymond has hacked up a new kernel configuration scheme that is supposed to be considerably better than the one used today. Too bad it seems to late for it to be used in 2.4, but hey, it looks great!:) --
By the way, I think the email program to be released with KDE 2.0 is Magellan, which looks much more slick than Evolution (which is for Gnome).
Actually, the email app that will ship with KDE 2.0 will be the usual KMail. It has undergone severe improvements since the KDE1 version, though, and is getting much praise on presentations around.
Magellan should be ready around the time KDE 2.0 ships (September), but the Magellan team is completely seperate from the KDE team. --
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Do you have any references (web pages, whatever) that say Miguel is an MS reject?
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Of course, the Open Source Initiative is at http://www.opensource.org, not .com ;)
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Actually, Open Source (tm) is a registered trademark of the Open Source Initiative. You are not allowed to call your product Open Source unless it is licensed after one of these licenses.
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Yes! One of the biggest hassles that the koffice team works on, is the import filters. These are extremely important to have in order to recruit users of certain other suites, but they take a lot of work to develop. It doesn't help that Corel, which has sworn it's support to KDE, won't donate their excellent filter code to koffice. Hopefully they should be able to use the ones in staroffice though!
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theKompany, which are the guys behind Visual Python, also supports the development of KDE Studio which is a C++ IDE that in many respects are more advanced than KDevelop. Have a look at some nifty screenshots here.
They also finance two developers working on KWord for two years. Great initiative.
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>Where does it say he was eleven? I missed that part.
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Fourth sentence: "At the time, he was 11 years old."
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For the GNOME project, this has got to be extremely promising. The GNOME camp faces extreme competition from KDE2 with it's excellent Konqueror web browser. Their intermediate answer (or not) is GtkHTML, which is actually a rework of the KHTML component of KDE1. GtkHTML is not meant to be a full fledged web browser though. I've heard talk about making a Mozilla bonobo component, and this has already been done although it's in extremely early development. So why not do a dedicated GNOME web browser out of the already existing, open source and quite excellent gecko code? They can "rip off" mozilla but not Konqueror because of it's heavy dependence of Qt. I'm not a GNOME user, but I wish this project all the best luck!
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CNet reports: Japanese firms team on Linux OS for mobile devices.
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But you have to understand that /. can't state somethng like "It's amazing how much progress KDE has made in the last few years.", so they generalize, and wrongfully at that. My guess is that at GNOMEs third birthday, they'll state "It's amazing how much progress GNOME has made in the last few years." ;-)
Btw, what's with your language?
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Kylix is sure to unleash a flood of new GUI applications for Linux, as "anyone" will be able to build the GUIs, and many should be able to learn the Pascal language. Many traditional, popular Windows applications may be ported as well. All in all, Kylix will be great for Linux!
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Have you ever watched an absolute newbie trying to read some web pages? The first thing they try to click is the banner ads. I often find myself explaining, "no, don't click there, that's just an ad". Of course, gaining experience, they learn to seperate ads from real content, but it does take time.
:)
Pop-up banner ads are probably even more efficient in this respect
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Go here for UFO - Unmaintained Free software and Open source projects. It's hosted by Bernhard Rosenkraenzer of Red Hat, who is also a contributor to the KDE project, which is the reason why /. ignores UFO (yes I'm joking).
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That reminds me of the saying "I went to the graveyard today. Kind of dead, but very crowdy." :)
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Y is a different X replacement I saw a while back. I can't find links to the project webpage, but I know that Y is out there.
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These are crazy days, when microsoft provide downloadables in GNU Zip! :)
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Oh, did you expect these dimwits to *understand* the technology they want to put away?
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Shut Napster down, and MP3 sharing will move deeper underground, down where they'll NEVER have any hope of controlling the music piracy. FreeNet and Gnutella, they're both easily more robust and resistant to such control than Napster, which relies on one central, easily controllable server.
As bandwidth increases everywhere, MP3 trading will go on, and it will increase substantially as
Napster is their big, one-time chance to gain at least some control, like Metallica et al has. Their killing it off speaks volumes of their ignorance. I only hope it happens.
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If you don't know what's going to be so cool about Kylix, here's an explanation from the author of "Delphi in a nutshell".
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It doesn't matter much if ReiserFS gets into linux 2.4. What matters is that distributions will be head over heals to include ReiserFS, even long before kernel 2.4.
:)
SuSE already have ReiserFS, and Mandrake 7.1 has it as well. Other's *will* follow shortly. The FS is only an option, and will not install by default, but aware people will have read the reports of the stability and coolness of ReiserFS, and will opt to install it. That's how ReiserFS will conquer the Linux world -- bottom up
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we didn't announce to flood the ftp server.
And now it's probably too late.
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Of course, you're just a troll, since anyone capable of typing in "slashdot.org" in the address field readily knows Java needs a VM and people have tried to write kernels in Java and failed :)
:)
As for C++ porting, this has been debated and probably still is, but it isn't going to happen because many people feel there's a performance overhead with the added complexity of OO.
Try, however a "grep goto\ * -r | wc -l" on the kernel sources and you'll be shocked by the extensive usage of "the four letter word". While this is probably efficient, it makes for incomprehensible spaghetti code and should be cleaned up in for 2.5 imho
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Eric Raymond has hacked up a new kernel configuration scheme that is supposed to be considerably better than the one used today. Too bad it seems to late for it to be used in 2.4, but hey, it looks great! :)
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I have yet to receive this e-mail worm, so I'd be very interested in seeing the VBS source.
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Oh, that's easy, especially in assembler. Just use the instruction CAO (Compare Apples and Oranges). :-)
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Actually, the email app that will ship with KDE 2.0 will be the usual KMail. It has undergone severe improvements since the KDE1 version, though, and is getting much praise on presentations around.
Magellan should be ready around the time KDE 2.0 ships (September), but the Magellan team is completely seperate from the KDE team.
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