They're using a clone of an OS developed in the '70s.
They're using a clone of OS that has been evolving for more than 20 years.
They use C, a language from the same period, not C++.
With good fucking reason, throwing exceptions in the kernel sucks. I used to question Linus's judgment in not using C++; but after reading a couple of threads on the AROS mailing list relating to specific C++ issues, I realized Linus made a brilliant call in not using C++.
They use an interface that literally emulates an ancient teletype.
What interface would you be referring to? The shell? Sorry that's user-space. The message console I guess is what you're referring to. It may not be pretty, but if you want it pretty, you sound like expert how about writing a C++/GUI system logger. Of maybe you just have no real fucking experience and are just regurgitating what other people have told you.
They're using a clone of an OS developed in the '70s.
They're using a clone of OS that has been evolving for more than 20 years.
They use C, a language from the same period, not C++. With good fucking reason, throwing exceptions in the kernel suck. I used to question Linus's judgment in not using C++; but after reading a couple of threads on the AROS mailing list relating to specific C++ issues, I realized Linus made a brilliant call in not using C++.
They use an interface that literally emulates an ancient teletype.
What interface would you be referring to? The shell? Sorry that's user-space. The message console I guess is what you're referring to. It may not be pretty, but if you want it pretty, you sound like expert how about writing a C++/GUI system logger. Of maybe you just have no real fucking experience and are just regurgitating what other people have told you.
Struts is great, if you want to handcuff good OO Design, and just use the Struts features. As far as I'm concerned the only thing that make Struts even remotely useful is the Validation framework. The rest is crap for junior web developers who don't know how to use a web.xml and Model-2 MCV; it cripples the rest of us.
Linus should be suing SCO for defamation of character because with they're lawsuits they're saying that's he's not competent to write a kernel, and accusing him plagiarizing of their code.
Remember Microsoft doesn't actually sell any software. All they sell is a license to use a give piece of software. I haven't read the EULA recently, but you probably don't even have to have a copy of the software in question to buy a license.
Have you ever worked with a non-trivial application in IIS?
I've done hand-configuration of Windchill in IIS. It was a true nightmare, dozens of different widgets, menus, windows and panels, all IIS.
Click a button, open a widget, change some settings, click another button open another widget change some different settings. Repeat until application is configured, check that all configuration wizards are correct, then test and hope the settings are correct, because the server debugging sucks.
.... I suspect that this will not stop the MAFIAA from making the lives of millions of Americans miserable. They'll just blow it off and it will be business as usual for them.
With the garbage they're putting out, they've already succeeded; and that was before the lawsuits.,/p>
I think he's just had so much bad American coffee he doesn't know what good coffee is. If you drink Royal Cup for a few days, Starbucks does actually taste pretty good in comparison.
How do you figure? How is my right to speak or move or breathe air tied to my property rights --- unless you consider me someone's property?
How about food and shelter?
With no food, no shelter and unless you're living in a tropical paradise your need to breath air is diminished. Food and shelter are property which your right to breath air is dependent upon.
This property is usually purchased, or rented using this complicated medium known as money. Money is usually exchanged for good or services. Most people in our society acquire money through what is called a job (Since this is/. I'm going to leave out the alternatives: people who win lawsuits, people who inherit, people who win a lottery, and people who sell things), . With this job, you perform a service for somebody who has money, and for agreed upon amount.
Then there's this right to speak. You have the right to speak so long as you say something agreeable to the person who controls this job you happen to be doing you have freedom of speech. Now when you say something this person disagrees with, your acquisition of money can be affected. This then affects the nature of your shelter, and the nature of the food you eat.
You'll notice that from the Power emitted from a black hole is inversely proportional to the Mass Squared, so Big Black holes don't emit much power, making them effectively black. Not you described indistinguishable from a star when viewed from a distance.
Also the time it takes for a black hole to evaporate is proportional to the Mass cubed, so the bigger the black hole is, the longer it takes to evaporate.
Also its my understanding that these equations assume that the black hole is not feeding and gaining mass. When a black hole does so the surrounding material heats up emits x-rays. Its this x-ray signature that makes them easy to find. Super massive black holes may not have the same x-ray signature, their surroundings being black as well. Those are detected by their gravitational influence: Sagittarius A* was detected this way. (Though its not completely quiet). Still when mass is a function of time and increasing, the mass added to a black hole affects how long it will take to evaporate.
It most certainly is an academic topic. I expect the junior developers I hire to be able to actually do something, like write code. You can talk academics all you want, but in the end I expect people to be able to produce something. If you want purity, stay in school and don't get a real job. But here in the real world I expect people to produce applications. I expect engineers and have enough understanding of the language to know that they don't have to implement a dynamically linked list in Java because its already there, and enough theory pick up a manual and write Expect scripts as needed.
As for teaching people to use some library not being academic, EVERYTHING now is a library; even the op codes in Assembler use sets of micro-code which differ from processor to processor.
Even when you're doing a pure mathematical proof, you're using libraries of established theorems in your proof.
No Thanks, some of us deal very will with id/password scheme. But so far all of the 2 level authentication routines are a failure. The more layers of authentication you put on users,the more likely they're going to be to write stuff down and lose it.
This is even worse, because users are going to open notepad, type their password in clear text, then paste it into the password field, and hopefully they will remember to exit notepad without saving.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
They're using a clone of OS that has been evolving for more than 20 years.
With good fucking reason, throwing exceptions in the kernel sucks. I used to question Linus's judgment in not using C++; but after reading a couple of threads on the AROS mailing list relating to specific C++ issues, I realized Linus made a brilliant call in not using C++.
What interface would you be referring to? The shell? Sorry that's user-space. The message console I guess is what you're referring to. It may not be pretty, but if you want it pretty, you sound like expert how about writing a C++/GUI system logger. Of maybe you just have no real fucking experience and are just regurgitating what other people have told you.
What the fuck are you talking about?
They're using a clone of OS that has been evolving for more than 20 years.
What interface would you be referring to? The shell? Sorry that's user-space. The message console I guess is what you're referring to. It may not be pretty, but if you want it pretty, you sound like expert how about writing a C++/GUI system logger. Of maybe you just have no real fucking experience and are just regurgitating what other people have told you.
Picture this: William Shatner wearing a light emitting toupee.
Welcome to the new AT&T.
Fuck you very much.
My guess is they talked with some consultants from Accenture.
The Rat should just take his merchandising manufacturing elsewhere.
BOFH ethics trump PHB ethics.
Struts is great, if you want to handcuff good OO Design, and just use the Struts features. As far as I'm concerned the only thing that make Struts even remotely useful is the Validation framework. The rest is crap for junior web developers who don't know how to use a web.xml and Model-2 MCV; it cripples the rest of us.
Linus should be suing SCO for defamation of character because with they're lawsuits they're saying that's he's not competent to write a kernel, and accusing him plagiarizing of their code.
Remember Microsoft doesn't actually sell any software. All they sell is a license to use a give piece of software. I haven't read the EULA recently, but you probably don't even have to have a copy of the software in question to buy a license.
Some of us actually have a Physics degree; and a few are lucky enough to actually work in the field.
Have you ever worked with a non-trivial application in IIS?
I've done hand-configuration of Windchill in IIS. It was a true nightmare, dozens of different widgets, menus, windows and panels, all IIS.
Click a button, open a widget, change some settings, click another button open another widget change some different settings. Repeat until application is configured, check that all configuration wizards are correct, then test and hope the settings are correct, because the server debugging sucks.
Who cares what they say, what does the contract say?
The real reason for the hexagon: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070408
With the garbage they're putting out, they've already succeeded; and that was before the lawsuits.,/p>
I think he's just had so much bad American coffee he doesn't know what good coffee is. If you drink Royal Cup for a few days, Starbucks does actually taste pretty good in comparison.
And yes I use a french press too.
How about food and shelter?
With no food, no shelter and unless you're living in a tropical paradise your need to breath air is diminished. Food and shelter are property which your right to breath air is dependent upon.
This property is usually purchased, or rented using this complicated medium known as money. Money is usually exchanged for good or services. Most people in our society acquire money through what is called a job (Since this is /. I'm going to leave out the alternatives: people who win lawsuits, people who inherit, people who win a lottery, and people who sell things), . With this job, you perform a service for somebody who has money, and for agreed upon amount.
Then there's this right to speak. You have the right to speak so long as you say something agreeable to the person who controls this job you happen to be doing you have freedom of speech. Now when you say something this person disagrees with, your acquisition of money can be affected. This then affects the nature of your shelter, and the nature of the food you eat.
Well stated. I'm going to remember this the next time I hear the CS guys saying that you can do Computer Science implementing the theory in code.
I suggest you learn a little bit of the math behind black hole evaporation.
Here I refer to Wikipedia because I'm lazy...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_evapor ation#Black_hole_evaporation
You'll notice that from the Power emitted from a black hole is inversely proportional to the Mass Squared, so Big Black holes don't emit much power, making them effectively black. Not you described indistinguishable from a star when viewed from a distance.
Also the time it takes for a black hole to evaporate is proportional to the Mass cubed, so the bigger the black hole is, the longer it takes to evaporate.
Also its my understanding that these equations assume that the black hole is not feeding and gaining mass. When a black hole does so the surrounding material heats up emits x-rays. Its this x-ray signature that makes them easy to find. Super massive black holes may not have the same x-ray signature, their surroundings being black as well. Those are detected by their gravitational influence: Sagittarius A* was detected this way. (Though its not completely quiet). Still when mass is a function of time and increasing, the mass added to a black hole affects how long it will take to evaporate.
When was this?
It most certainly is an academic topic. I expect the junior developers I hire to be able to actually do something, like write code. You can talk academics all you want, but in the end I expect people to be able to produce something. If you want purity, stay in school and don't get a real job. But here in the real world I expect people to produce applications. I expect engineers and have enough understanding of the language to know that they don't have to implement a dynamically linked list in Java because its already there, and enough theory pick up a manual and write Expect scripts as needed.
As for teaching people to use some library not being academic, EVERYTHING now is a library; even the op codes in Assembler use sets of micro-code which differ from processor to processor.
Even when you're doing a pure mathematical proof, you're using libraries of established theorems in your proof.
No Thanks, some of us deal very will with id/password scheme. But so far all of the 2 level authentication routines are a failure. The more layers of authentication you put on users,the more likely they're going to be to write stuff down and lose it.
This is even worse, because users are going to open notepad, type their password in clear text, then paste it into the password field, and hopefully they will remember to exit notepad without saving.
That can only mean that they think that promoting violence against men is okay.
The DOJ is filing he lawsuit, because they didn't get their share of the kickback.
Nothing wrong with charging $350/hr for consultants just out of college.
However there is something wrong with a company that signs a contract and is willing to pay $350/hr for consultants just out of college.