I actually thought about the electrolytic caps after made my post.
I almost amended it, but I think my point is still valid, computers last a lot longer than what we use them for, it's the software that is forcing upgrades usually, not the hardware.
I, for one, will be glad when someone invents a dry capacitor that can compete with lytics. Ever had one of those explode when you are working on a project? Gives my computer/gun analogy a whole new angle!
At work I ordered 20 100GB hard disks from mwave.com, expecting them to ship them in the OEM 20pack carton like a normal company, but they must have run out of 20 pack cartons that day, because we got two halves of a 20 pack stacked on each other with no lids. no lids wouldn't have been so bad, excapt that there were no packing materials on top. One of the hard disks had worked it's way out and was laying directly on top of the others with no padding between.
Mwave is usually a good company, I wouldn't hold this episode against them too much, but it was something that shocked me it was so careless, especially considering the value of the shipment was many thousand dollars.
The PLCs I've worked with have been pretty tough. A lot of them that I've worked with use very large, well soldered traces where it matters, and extra heavy sheet metal on the cabinets, with lots of overengineering.
I guess the post is twofold, first off, you PLC people, keep up the good work (but hell you pay out the ass for that ruggedized stuff!), and two, maybe PLCs are a little more rugged than the average bear.
I can generally get about 2 years of useful life out of a desktop PC, perhaps upgrading the RAM, video adaptor and CD/DVD/latest-useful-removeable-media drive along the way. I can get about 18 months of use out of a laptop, upgrading the RAM at some point. I can get 3-5 years out of a car, a (potentially) lifetime of use out of a good watch or a gun.
Tsk Tsk, you propose a radical answer, when your "question" is fundamentally flawed.
I buy a gun, lets say a.38 caliber relvolver. A fine piece of craftsmanship. It will be working long after I am rotting in the ground somewhere if I take care of it. It does one thing, it shoots little chunks of hot lead at subsonic speeds.
If I buy a computer, and I keep using the same software that came out designed for said computer, and I take care of it, I don't keep it in humid environments, I don't let it overheat, etc, then I'm sure it will last long after I am dead too.
It's only because you want to run new, bloated software, designed for new, bloated computers, that you have to upgrade so often.
It's like trying to shoot 357 magnums out of your 38. Sure, they fit in the chamber, but that isn't the gun that bullet is designed for. Don't be surprised if it doesn't work.
It's called the network effect. It makes for a much more efficient market if everyone is buying and selling in the same venue. If all commerce were done on ebay for example, then the market would near 100% efficiency. Of course this means that it would be very difficult to make money on commodities (as market efficiency approaches 100%, profit approaches 0, for commodities).
It's adventageous for buyers to choose the largest venue, and it's a mixed bag for sellers. For the seller, it's possible to make more money at a smaller venue because their is less immediate competition, but since all the buyers are running off to their most advantageous place (the biggest venue), you might not sell anywhere near the same volume, if at all.
That's interesting, but you still had plasma, which was the goal.
After posting this comment, my suspicions were confirmed, several credible posts said that these lights are indeed microwave megnetrons beaming sulphur doped tubes and creating sustained plasma. They also said that they were prone to failure, had moving parts, and consumed a lot of energy. Oh well. Nice idea in theory at least.
Even if it was a joke, even if it was a reference to something famous, never, ever even imply anything about assassination of a policitcal representative. This is doubly true in today's climate.
I hope you don't get in shit for a stupid joke on Slashdot, but at least one guy got harassed by the feds over a post on kuro5hin, that discussed methods of terrorism in an acedemic way.
Besides, Boucher is a fairly cool guy. Just remember who he represents, high tech internet companies. This is why he is against the DMCA, and this is also why he is in favor of this bill. I think he is misguided on this one, but I think that's his ultimate motivation.
You just put in a new firewall that doesn't support such things. Technical limitation, wink wink.
In other words, lock them behind an http only proxy, or whatever other proxies they really need. You aren't a general use ISP.
If they complain, tell them it's impossible to change, due to some complex technical matter. Just mention TCP header length and TTL and their eyes will glaze over as they nod slowly.
You gotta be kidding me, people modded this steaming pile to a 4.
I seriously doubt there were "people" involved in the moderation of all these anti-gun comments. It's a well known fact that Malda is anti-gun, and as we know, also has unlimited mod points.
Read this comment quick before it hits -1. I guess this will be a good test of Malda's response time. Maybe he even has a alerter installed so he knows right away when someone mentions him in a message, so as to supress criticism.
Actually, firearms are an ineffective and dangerous way to kill large numbers of people. There are much easier ways, as seen on Sept 11, 2001.
Do you really think they did what they did because they couldn't get access to firearms? Firearms can be used as a very efficient way to intimidate, wound, or kill a single person, or small group of people, no more.
to whoever wants to work therein is protectionist?
Yes, to some extent.
My point is, what the RIAA and MPAA is doing is the exact same thing as what the US is doing through immigration laws. If you can't compete with a superior product that costs significantly less, then you are obselete.
People should have consistant points of view. The RIAA is just leveraging existing law to protect the high prices of their products. An IT worker that gets paid a lot, and pushes for the government to prevent immigrant workers from coming in is doing the same thing. I don't see the difference. You can either compete, or you can't. If you can't, then you are obselete.
It's wrong to ask the government to destroy your competition through legislation, or lack thereof.
Haha, I did it again. Anyway, just read it as "most of the people here". I really have to watch my words, I don't mean for generalizations to be all inclusive. I mean "on average".
That's a sweeping generalization. Heck, there are people on/. who post pro-MPAA and pro-RIAA stuff every now and then.
I didn't mean all as in every slashdot reader. I meant the people that flamed me, and modded me down. It also doesn't look good on the rest that no one defended my side of the case, as Libertarian as everyone here claims to be.
And what's wrong with that? Shouldn't the U.S. take care of its own citizens' employment needs before importing foreign workers?
So, when the Motion picture and recording industry becomes obselete due to a low cost alternative, we bash the fuck out of them for pushing protectionist policies to protect their income, but when it comes to IT worker protectionism, everyone is all for it. If you can't compete with the competition, and you require the government to step in to protect you, then you are no better than the MPAA or RIAA.
That is fucking bullshit. You all are a bunch of hypocrites.
essentially cheap slave labor. They are hired into jobs the employers claim require extended skills, and paid only the average programmer salary (not the near double amounts such skills would normally draw) because the H-1B law only requires the average to be paid based on all programmers (not specifically those with the required skills).
My Romanian friend that I talk to every now and then would see things a little differently. He works a full time IT job for $6500 a year. That's not a typo.
Cisco, firewalls, the works, he is a full network admin. Living expenses aren't too much lower either, an apartment is still $250-300 a month. He would LOVE to come here to work for your "slave wages".
So when you try to look like you are helping the "oppressed foreigners", it may work for ignorant american citizens, but the ones that know what it is like in much of the world can see right through you. You just want to protect your own job, end of story.
Except for the investor's money, which certainly has been lost.
That much is correct, but I don't think many of the people that bought in at $200 are still holding the company. Unscientific, but from the RHAT message boards I frequent, most of the posts come from recent buyers, I've not seen anyone who rode it all the way down and is still holding it. My point is that those people would have lost nearly the same amount of money whether RHAT had made the secondary offering or not.
RHAT did dissapoint in the most recent quarter, they broke even again when it was expected that they would have at least a modest profit by now.
That still doesn't give people the right to talk about losses that are attributable to goodwill as if they are operating losses, it's not an accurate picture of what the status of the company actually is.
Depends on how fast they have the shutter set. Probably pretty fast I'd bet. If it's auto-shutter, then you have more of a chance to be a blur when there is low light.
Now I have to waste two minutes of my life, because I can type quickly....lalalalalalalalala OK, lets try again.
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I actually thought about the electrolytic caps after made my post.
I almost amended it, but I think my point is still valid, computers last a lot longer than what we use them for, it's the software that is forcing upgrades usually, not the hardware.
I, for one, will be glad when someone invents a dry capacitor that can compete with lytics. Ever had one of those explode when you are working on a project? Gives my computer/gun analogy a whole new angle!
Does thing mean that MS no longer has an excuse to record every mistyped domain name along with a unique ID in IE?
Nah, I'm sure they will continue to collect that data. After all, this is MS we are talking about.
but expensive anyway.
At work I ordered 20 100GB hard disks from mwave.com, expecting them to ship them in the OEM 20pack carton like a normal company, but they must have run out of 20 pack cartons that day, because we got two halves of a 20 pack stacked on each other with no lids. no lids wouldn't have been so bad, excapt that there were no packing materials on top. One of the hard disks had worked it's way out and was laying directly on top of the others with no padding between.
Mwave is usually a good company, I wouldn't hold this episode against them too much, but it was something that shocked me it was so careless, especially considering the value of the shipment was many thousand dollars.
The PLCs I've worked with have been pretty tough. A lot of them that I've worked with use very large, well soldered traces where it matters, and extra heavy sheet metal on the cabinets, with lots of overengineering.
I guess the post is twofold, first off, you PLC people, keep up the good work (but hell you pay out the ass for that ruggedized stuff!), and two, maybe PLCs are a little more rugged than the average bear.
I can generally get about 2 years of useful life out of a desktop PC, perhaps upgrading the RAM, video adaptor and CD/DVD/latest-useful-removeable-media drive along the way. I can get about 18 months of use out of a laptop, upgrading the RAM at some point. I can get 3-5 years out of a car, a (potentially) lifetime of use out of a good watch or a gun.
.38 caliber relvolver. A fine piece of craftsmanship. It will be working long after I am rotting in the ground somewhere if I take care of it. It does one thing, it shoots little chunks of hot lead at subsonic speeds.
Tsk Tsk, you propose a radical answer, when your "question" is fundamentally flawed.
I buy a gun, lets say a
If I buy a computer, and I keep using the same software that came out designed for said computer, and I take care of it, I don't keep it in humid environments, I don't let it overheat, etc, then I'm sure it will last long after I am dead too.
It's only because you want to run new, bloated software, designed for new, bloated computers, that you have to upgrade so often.
It's like trying to shoot 357 magnums out of your 38. Sure, they fit in the chamber, but that isn't the gun that bullet is designed for. Don't be surprised if it doesn't work.
It's called the network effect. It makes for a much more efficient market if everyone is buying and selling in the same venue. If all commerce were done on ebay for example, then the market would near 100% efficiency. Of course this means that it would be very difficult to make money on commodities (as market efficiency approaches 100%, profit approaches 0, for commodities).
It's adventageous for buyers to choose the largest venue, and it's a mixed bag for sellers. For the seller, it's possible to make more money at a smaller venue because their is less immediate competition, but since all the buyers are running off to their most advantageous place (the biggest venue), you might not sell anywhere near the same volume, if at all.
That's interesting, but you still had plasma, which was the goal.
After posting this comment, my suspicions were confirmed, several credible posts said that these lights are indeed microwave megnetrons beaming sulphur doped tubes and creating sustained plasma. They also said that they were prone to failure, had moving parts, and consumed a lot of energy. Oh well. Nice idea in theory at least.
Well, the government needs to step in to keep the wonderful tech developments we all take for granted comming.
Why?
Bad juju man.
Even if it was a joke, even if it was a reference to something famous, never, ever even imply anything about assassination of a policitcal representative. This is doubly true in today's climate.
I hope you don't get in shit for a stupid joke on Slashdot, but at least one guy got harassed by the feds over a post on kuro5hin, that discussed methods of terrorism in an acedemic way.
Besides, Boucher is a fairly cool guy. Just remember who he represents, high tech internet companies. This is why he is against the DMCA, and this is also why he is in favor of this bill. I think he is misguided on this one, but I think that's his ultimate motivation.
You must not notice the silent changes and the quiet front page story pulls. They do engage in this sort of thing, just not as a matter of course.
I bet it's RF energy excited sustained plasma, ala the microwave plasma ball experiments on that microwave site.
Simple,
You just put in a new firewall that doesn't support such things. Technical limitation, wink wink.
In other words, lock them behind an http only proxy, or whatever other proxies they really need. You aren't a general use ISP.
If they complain, tell them it's impossible to change, due to some complex technical matter. Just mention TCP header length and TTL and their eyes will glaze over as they nod slowly.
You gotta be kidding me, people modded this steaming pile to a 4.
I seriously doubt there were "people" involved in the moderation of all these anti-gun comments. It's a well known fact that Malda is anti-gun, and as we know, also has unlimited mod points.
Read this comment quick before it hits -1. I guess this will be a good test of Malda's response time. Maybe he even has a alerter installed so he knows right away when someone mentions him in a message, so as to supress criticism.
Actually, firearms are an ineffective and dangerous way to kill large numbers of people. There are much easier ways, as seen on Sept 11, 2001.
Do you really think they did what they did because they couldn't get access to firearms? Firearms can be used as a very efficient way to intimidate, wound, or kill a single person, or small group of people, no more.
For the LAST TIME idiot, they don't want to take away your games, they just want to keep them out of the hands of kids!
Right? Right?
Uhh... I don't get it? Why is this +2 funny? Am I just -2 No Sense of Humor?
Especially when the magazine is owned by time warner, a competitor of Fox.
to whoever wants to work therein is protectionist?
Yes, to some extent.
My point is, what the RIAA and MPAA is doing is the exact same thing as what the US is doing through immigration laws. If you can't compete with a superior product that costs significantly less, then you are obselete.
People should have consistant points of view. The RIAA is just leveraging existing law to protect the high prices of their products. An IT worker that gets paid a lot, and pushes for the government to prevent immigrant workers from coming in is doing the same thing. I don't see the difference. You can either compete, or you can't. If you can't, then you are obselete.
It's wrong to ask the government to destroy your competition through legislation, or lack thereof.
as Libertarian as everyone here claims to be.
Haha, I did it again. Anyway, just read it as "most of the people here". I really have to watch my words, I don't mean for generalizations to be all inclusive. I mean "on average".
That's a sweeping generalization. Heck, there are people on /. who post pro-MPAA and pro-RIAA stuff every now and then.
I didn't mean all as in every slashdot reader. I meant the people that flamed me, and modded me down. It also doesn't look good on the rest that no one defended my side of the case, as Libertarian as everyone here claims to be.
No, I wasn't trolling, I'm serious.
Money is made up from the ink you buy
Maybe from the ink YOU buy, but I myself am not into counterfeiting.
And what's wrong with that? Shouldn't the U.S. take care of its own citizens' employment needs before importing foreign workers?
So, when the Motion picture and recording industry becomes obselete due to a low cost alternative, we bash the fuck out of them for pushing protectionist policies to protect their income, but when it comes to IT worker protectionism, everyone is all for it. If you can't compete with the competition, and you require the government to step in to protect you, then you are no better than the MPAA or RIAA.
That is fucking bullshit. You all are a bunch of hypocrites.
essentially cheap slave labor. They are hired into jobs the employers claim require extended skills, and paid only the average programmer salary (not the near double amounts such skills would normally draw) because the H-1B law only requires the average to be paid based on all programmers (not specifically those with the required skills).
My Romanian friend that I talk to every now and then would see things a little differently. He works a full time IT job for $6500 a year. That's not a typo.
Cisco, firewalls, the works, he is a full network admin. Living expenses aren't too much lower either, an apartment is still $250-300 a month. He would LOVE to come here to work for your "slave wages".
So when you try to look like you are helping the "oppressed foreigners", it may work for ignorant american citizens, but the ones that know what it is like in much of the world can see right through you. You just want to protect your own job, end of story.
Except for the investor's money, which certainly has been lost.
That much is correct, but I don't think many of the people that bought in at $200 are still holding the company. Unscientific, but from the RHAT message boards I frequent, most of the posts come from recent buyers, I've not seen anyone who rode it all the way down and is still holding it. My point is that those people would have lost nearly the same amount of money whether RHAT had made the secondary offering or not.
RHAT did dissapoint in the most recent quarter, they broke even again when it was expected that they would have at least a modest profit by now.
That still doesn't give people the right to talk about losses that are attributable to goodwill as if they are operating losses, it's not an accurate picture of what the status of the company actually is.
Depends on how fast they have the shutter set. Probably pretty fast I'd bet. If it's auto-shutter, then you have more of a chance to be a blur when there is low light.
Now I have to waste two minutes of my life, because I can type quickly....lalalalalalalalala OK, lets try again.