Unfortunately they are giving people (the masses) what they want. I love the dynamics in music and it is one of the elements that makes it interesting, but a lot of people don't.
I hate to make the stupid food analogy, but here it goes. I grew up on home cooked meals and I like a lot a variety. I like all kinds of vegetables and spices. A lot of younger people I know grew up on McDonald's and Pizza and that is all they will eat. Everything else sucks. It is the same with music, I grew up listening to many types of music from classical and jazz to rock and country. I can enjoy most any music and find elements I like in many different styles of music.
A lot of younger people I know grew up in the age of Clear Channel radio stations where you are pigeon holed into one very narrow genre of music. The most popular genres have become almost free of dynamic variety to the point that people don't want to hear it. The record companies are giving people what they want.
How about a Firefox "adshow" extension that pops up every add in a separate window so they can all download at their own speed. Thats a lot better than been a crook and stealing content like adblock users.
"I was a WP user. But, the boys in Orem let the product lanquish and the Corel ignored it for too many years."
Even so that is not what killed WP. It was killed because of price. People want cheep/free (see previous./ article). WP was ~$200 and you could buy MS Word "competitive upgrade" for $50. Everybody opted for Word because it was cheap. Once they had 50%+ market share they removed WP compatibility from the default install and the rest of the holdouts switched to Word so they cold exchange documents.
The other one was Lotus 123. Lotus was $200-300 and you could buy Quattro Pro for $50 competitive upgrade. People started going to Quattro in droves and then Lotus won a lawsuit over look and feel and basically put Quattro Pro out of business. By then excel was available for $50 upgrade and everyone went to it rather than back to Lotus.
Then the deal was sealed and MS owns the desktop productivity market.
When/if MS makes Office hard/impossible to pirate people will download OO in droves.
SCO Xenix was a great product for its time, I used it from 1985 until about 1990 SCO Unix was a great product for its time, I used it from about 1990-1995. SCO Open Desktop/Open Server or whatever they called it was the horrible aberration with all the symbolic links, etc. By the time this product came out the other Intel Unixes (Linux, etc) had caught up to SCO. SCO Unix as a viable product ended in about 96, the only thing that kept them alive after that was a loyal VAR channel (developed when the product was the best Unix available for Intel).
Anyone using SCO in 2000 was on a dead end street.
All of this same argument, bickering, etc goes on in every large organization including Microsoft. The Linux "organization" is just much more transparent so everyone get to see and even participate in the bickering.
Have you ever read the legal bickering that goes on inside the Microsoft legal department? I bet its just as heated as anything on a Debian list, you just don't get to see it.
This may reduce availability in rural areas. Why would anyone run cables out to bumfuck where there is maybe 1 customer in 5 miles. With the monopoly you can force their hand and say they are granted the monopoly but they most service the rural customer.
Hey when I start using vi the standard editor in DOS was edlin. people used "copy con" because it was easier. vi and Unix in general were a godsend in those days. Now 25 years later I still use vi (VIM) even though 90% of my work is in windows. vi was not and is not even remotely hard to learn. You just use it for a couple of days and then you will start to feel the power and speed of a real text editor.
I thought this was about the supposed easter egg in CP/M that was in QDOS. There have been various rumors about an easter egg that would have only been present in an exact ripoff of code rather than just copying features. In any case the article makes no mention of this so I guess is stays a rumor.
All very true, but back in the good ole' days I would rather deal with the various Unix flavors than to deal with the rapidly moving target PCs were from '81 to '95. The complete platforms were changing every year and almost every useful tool was from a 3rd party vendor. At least in the Unix world you could expect the system to include a reasonable set of tools to do your job.
The biggest problem I saw with the fragmentation of Unix was marketing. Only AT&T used the term UNIX so you had AIX, Ultrix, BSD, Xenix, etc. The customer saw these as all completely separate systems and it was hard to explain. At least from the perception of most end users, if it says "Linux" they see it as the same thing regardless of the distribution. Only geeks care about distributions.
And everyone will ignore all of it by default. This is not the next big thing by a long shot. Large numbers of people generally do not go on the internet for local information. Local is real life. It is where you are when you are not using the internet.
Albums were a convenience. You could put on an album and listen to 20+ minutes of music without having to get up and flip the thing over. Then with 8 track tapes you could listen to the whole thing and not have to get up. The CDs, same thing. Sure you could have always made a mix tape on cassette or even 8-track and later CDs. But this was too much trouble for most people.
Most people just would buy albums and listen to them and when it was over pop on another one. Great albums were ones that had enough variety between the songs to not get boring. Some artists took real advantage of this format and made great lengthy listening experiences.
Now with the simple to use computer based programs like itunes for downloading music and making CDs and easy to use mp3 players the average person does not have to rely on albums and mix tapes are the new standard.
Also, albums are not dead and probably never will be. Artists that like to make albums will make them and sell them on CD or other format. Albums are just obsolete for the average user because the convenience of the format is not longer an issue.
"If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty"
This is the part you should have emphasized. It is sad, but it is where we are going more so than revolution. The vast majority of the people in this country do not see the problem. They see Paris Hilton all over every channel and other mind numbing static. All of the power mongers know this and are more and more able to control the population like puppets.
The browser would have to second guess what you are trying to do and that would not be good.
This really needs to be fixed a the web application level so that the program does not allow random access to important URLs but tracks the user in various ways. The program needs to use more that cookies to make sure you intend to make a purchase or modify information. For example if a direct link comes into amazon to order a product and the same user is not coming from a page that would have legitimately made that request it should be denied.
I don't think a timeout will help much. It seems to me the most likely or simple to implement attack would be to use this on a community site where the attacker and victim are currently logged in to the same site. From one article it appears myspace was already attacked this way some time ago.
How about all the myspace music pages where artists post their own songs? Does myspace have to pay, do the individual artists have to pay to post their own songs? This is just a huge can of worms.
A boycott is usually a dumb move that proves little. If they really want to make a difference they should seek out and play music by artists that are not requiring royalty payments.
A lot of people long for that short period of time in the 70s when FM radio was in its infancy. That is when a lot of good music was on the radio because a lot of DJs at the time were given the freedom to play what they wanted. They played the artists they thought were good and played deep tracks off albums and made them popular rather than a single being pushed by a record company. This created the entire catalog of music known as "classic rock".
Once FM radio listeners started to match or exceed the numbers of AM listeners the days of the freewheeling DJ was over. FM became the same systematic crap programming as AM. The last decent radio station in these parts died around 1981.
The music being made then was not any better than music being made today, you just had a reliable source to hear some of it. Now there are so many outlets for music; radio, tv , xm/sirus radio, internet, etc that no new music can reach any real level of popularity unless it can be mass marketed via the pop or country formats.
Yeah, especially when these new artists cant sing worth a damn. Its all about the pure quality of the equipment and the pure sound of a melodic voice. The songwriting is secondary.
The tech that tripped over the power cord and unplugged the server told his boss "I got it going, but I had to decompile the binary code and fix the bug because I could not get hold of the vendor."
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Unfortunately they are giving people (the masses) what they want. I love the dynamics in music and it is one of the elements that makes it interesting, but a lot of people don't.
I hate to make the stupid food analogy, but here it goes. I grew up on home cooked meals and I like a lot a variety. I like all kinds of vegetables and spices. A lot of younger people I know grew up on McDonald's and Pizza and that is all they will eat. Everything else sucks. It is the same with music, I grew up listening to many types of music from classical and jazz to rock and country. I can enjoy most any music and find elements I like in many different styles of music.
A lot of younger people I know grew up in the age of Clear Channel radio stations where you are pigeon holed into one very narrow genre of music. The most popular genres have become almost free of dynamic variety to the point that people don't want to hear it. The record companies are giving people what they want.
People who want to find information on the internet will find it. The "spam" will just be a great way for the censors to find and block the proxies.
How about a Firefox "adshow" extension that pops up every add in a separate window so they can all download at their own speed. Thats a lot better than been a crook and stealing content like adblock users.
"I was a WP user. But, the boys in Orem let the product lanquish and the Corel ignored it for too many years."
./ article). WP was ~$200 and you could buy MS Word "competitive upgrade" for $50. Everybody opted for Word because it was cheap. Once they had 50%+ market share they removed WP compatibility from the default install and the rest of the holdouts switched to Word so they cold exchange documents.
Even so that is not what killed WP. It was killed because of price. People want cheep/free (see previous
The other one was Lotus 123. Lotus was $200-300 and you could buy Quattro Pro for $50 competitive upgrade. People started going to Quattro in droves and then Lotus won a lawsuit over look and feel and basically put Quattro Pro out of business. By then excel was available for $50 upgrade and everyone went to it rather than back to Lotus.
Then the deal was sealed and MS owns the desktop productivity market.
When/if MS makes Office hard/impossible to pirate people will download OO in droves.
SCO Xenix was a great product for its time, I used it from 1985 until about 1990
SCO Unix was a great product for its time, I used it from about 1990-1995.
SCO Open Desktop/Open Server or whatever they called it was the horrible aberration with all the symbolic links, etc. By the time this product came out the other Intel Unixes (Linux, etc) had caught up to SCO. SCO Unix as a viable product ended in about 96, the only thing that kept them alive after that was a loyal VAR channel (developed when the product was the best Unix available for Intel).
Anyone using SCO in 2000 was on a dead end street.
Hey, I used to drive a space shuttle to work! Well actually it was an AMC Gremlin but everybody called it a space shuttle.
All of this same argument, bickering, etc goes on in every large organization including Microsoft. The Linux "organization" is just much more transparent so everyone get to see and even participate in the bickering.
Have you ever read the legal bickering that goes on inside the Microsoft legal department? I bet its just as heated as anything on a Debian list, you just don't get to see it.
This may reduce availability in rural areas. Why would anyone run cables out to bumfuck where there is maybe 1 customer in 5 miles. With the monopoly you can force their hand and say they are granted the monopoly but they most service the rural customer.
Hey when I start using vi the standard editor in DOS was edlin. people used "copy con" because it was easier. vi and Unix in general were a godsend in those days. Now 25 years later I still use vi (VIM) even though 90% of my work is in windows. vi was not and is not even remotely hard to learn. You just use it for a couple of days and then you will start to feel the power and speed of a real text editor.
In this case Darth Bill killed off all the younglings and there is no son to challenge the father.
I thought this was about the supposed easter egg in CP/M that was in QDOS. There have been various rumors about an easter egg that would have only been present in an exact ripoff of code rather than just copying features. In any case the article makes no mention of this so I guess is stays a rumor.
the one time GW was very articulate...
"major-league asshole from The New York Times." - GW Bush
"Oh yeah, he is, big time." -Cheney
All very true, but back in the good ole' days I would rather deal with the various Unix flavors than to deal with the rapidly moving target PCs were from '81 to '95. The complete platforms were changing every year and almost every useful tool was from a 3rd party vendor. At least in the Unix world you could expect the system to include a reasonable set of tools to do your job.
The biggest problem I saw with the fragmentation of Unix was marketing. Only AT&T used the term UNIX so you had AIX, Ultrix, BSD, Xenix, etc. The customer saw these as all completely separate systems and it was hard to explain. At least from the perception of most end users, if it says "Linux" they see it as the same thing regardless of the distribution. Only geeks care about distributions.
And everyone will ignore all of it by default. This is not the next big thing by a long shot. Large numbers of people generally do not go on the internet for local information. Local is real life. It is where you are when you are not using the internet.
Albums were a convenience. You could put on an album and listen to 20+ minutes of music without having to get up and flip the thing over. Then with 8 track tapes you could listen to the whole thing and not have to get up. The CDs, same thing. Sure you could have always made a mix tape on cassette or even 8-track and later CDs. But this was too much trouble for most people.
Most people just would buy albums and listen to them and when it was over pop on another one. Great albums were ones that had enough variety between the songs to not get boring. Some artists took real advantage of this format and made great lengthy listening experiences.
Now with the simple to use computer based programs like itunes for downloading music and making CDs and easy to use mp3 players the average person does not have to rely on albums and mix tapes are the new standard.
Also, albums are not dead and probably never will be. Artists that like to make albums will make them and sell them on CD or other format. Albums are just obsolete for the average user because the convenience of the format is not longer an issue.
then I'll create a new search engine called yabawwwwwwwdo.com
"If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty"
This is the part you should have emphasized. It is sad, but it is where we are going more so than revolution. The vast majority of the people in this country do not see the problem. They see Paris Hilton all over every channel and other mind numbing static. All of the power mongers know this and are more and more able to control the population like puppets.
The browser would have to second guess what you are trying to do and that would not be good.
This really needs to be fixed a the web application level so that the program does not allow random access to important URLs but tracks the user in various ways. The program needs to use more that cookies to make sure you intend to make a purchase or modify information. For example if a direct link comes into amazon to order a product and the same user is not coming from a page that would have legitimately made that request it should be denied.
I don't think a timeout will help much. It seems to me the most likely or simple to implement attack would be to use this on a community site where the attacker and victim are currently logged in to the same site. From one article it appears myspace was already attacked this way some time ago.
How about all the myspace music pages where artists post their own songs? Does myspace have to pay, do the individual artists have to pay to post their own songs? This is just a huge can of worms.
A boycott is usually a dumb move that proves little. If they really want to make a difference they should seek out and play music by artists that are not requiring royalty payments.
A lot of people long for that short period of time in the 70s when FM radio was in its infancy. That is when a lot of good music was on the radio because a lot of DJs at the time were given the freedom to play what they wanted. They played the artists they thought were good and played deep tracks off albums and made them popular rather than a single being pushed by a record company. This created the entire catalog of music known as "classic rock".
Once FM radio listeners started to match or exceed the numbers of AM listeners the days of the freewheeling DJ was over. FM became the same systematic crap programming as AM. The last decent radio station in these parts died around 1981.
The music being made then was not any better than music being made today, you just had a reliable source to hear some of it. Now there are so many outlets for music; radio, tv , xm/sirus radio, internet, etc that no new music can reach any real level of popularity unless it can be mass marketed via the pop or country formats.
Yeah, especially when these new artists cant sing worth a damn. Its all about the pure quality of the equipment and the pure sound of a melodic voice. The songwriting is secondary.
Nerds are all for full penetration! Availability of service providers seems to be the problem.
The tech that tripped over the power cord and unplugged the server told his boss "I got it going, but I had to decompile the binary code and fix the bug because I could not get hold of the vendor."