I'm not dissing KOffice/OpenOffice, nor QT/Mac, but I'd like to see a native (as in Cocoa) free word processor for OS X. I believe the AbiWord people are planning something like this, although I could be wrong.
By the way, I think X11 on OS X rules, in fact I use rxvt instead of Terminal.app because Terminal.app makes a slug look fast. (I'm still on Jaguar, is it any better in Panther?)
The line "Therefore, you are a dumbass" is in the context of the entire comment, not the line "Mac OS Classic sucks, Mac OS X rocks."
Therefore, you are still a dumbass.
As to your comments, many people prefer useful over elegant. Mac OS X may not be that elegant under the hood (I personally think it's fine), but the user experience (in terms of the GUI) is incredibly elegant, and better than anything I've ever used.
Can I run Photoshop on OpenBSD/FreeBSD/whateverBSD? I suppose I could run it with WINE, but there are no guarantees that it will work, nor will I get support from Adobe. I can, however, run it on OS X, vendor-supported and all. Whether or not you like OS X, it runs more software than anything else out there. Which is useful.
P.S. Your "AOL user" digs don't even bother me. You assume that I'm stupid, simply because I have a homepage on AOL, while you hide behind the aptly-named "Anonymous Coward" facade.
Mach and BSD were already integrated into OpenStep, although Apple did recently update the FreeBSD elements of OS X. Furthermore, Mac OS Classic compatibility is attained in two ways: 1. The "Carbon" API, which is available for Mac OS 8/9 (starting at 8.5, IIRC) and OS X. 2. The "Classic" environment, which essentially runs OS 9 inside of OS X.
Mac OS X traces back to OpenStep, and although it's largely compatible with OS 8/9 apps, OS X is not code-related to the classic Mac OS. (I'm sure SOME code was re-used, but all the core OS is either new or from OpenStep/BSD.) OS X could not be as stable as it is if it used Mac OS Classic code as a base, period. Mac OS Classic sucks, Mac OS X rocks.
Agreed. I use reiserfs on all my Slackware boxen, have for a while now. (Slackware does offer reiserfs during install.)
So will reiserfs 4 require a 2.6 kernel, or will those of us using 2.4 be able to use it? Also, does it require a re-format, or can you upgrade a v3 FS to v4?
I think slashdot should save all these trolls time and just automatically post at -1, Troll: the GNAA, *BSD is dead, a goatse link, and maybe a beowulf cluster/Natalie Portman grits joke.
I just had a personal experience with this. I haven't bought a new Intel-based computer since '96. When I build a PC, I use AMD. When I buy a system, I get a mac.
My aunt was going to buy three HP notebooks. I told her how the iBook was competetively priced and wouldn't get gummed up with spyware, adware, viruses, worms, etc. She just bought three iBooks, and I bet their next desktop will be a mac too, especially considering their "luck" with PCs.
So yes, Intel/MS does have something to worry about, because IMNSHO the "critical mass" for any other OS is about 25% market share. Sure, that's five times the current mac market share, but they're gaining.
And that Dell will be worth its weight in spyware, adware, worms, etc.. Mostly because that's what it'll be loaded with after about a month (week?) of regular use by a non-geek.
The mac will endure the same month of regular use without getting a bunch of shit all over it.
Screw worthwhile causes, I want optimized RC5-72 cores for distributed.net! The mere thought of it makes me drool.
Anybody know if it will work with a Radeon Mobility 9200? Because if somebody could port this to OS X and include it in distributed.net, that alone would be justification for the iBook I plan on getting.
Naturally, somebody is going to come along and tell me why a GPU would suck at RC5-72, and crush my dreams. Oh well.
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I'm not dissing KOffice/OpenOffice, nor QT/Mac, but I'd like to see a native (as in Cocoa) free word processor for OS X. I believe the AbiWord people are planning something like this, although I could be wrong.
By the way, I think X11 on OS X rules, in fact I use rxvt instead of Terminal.app because Terminal.app makes a slug look fast. (I'm still on Jaguar, is it any better in Panther?)
Yeah, but it won't crash. :P
Darn, I can't think of a way to slashdot your Commodore!
How does one make friends with an anonymous coward?
Maybe it's related because the system has gone up like a firecracker?
The line "Therefore, you are a dumbass" is in the context of the entire comment, not the line "Mac OS Classic sucks, Mac OS X rocks."
Therefore, you are still a dumbass.
As to your comments, many people prefer useful over elegant. Mac OS X may not be that elegant under the hood (I personally think it's fine), but the user experience (in terms of the GUI) is incredibly elegant, and better than anything I've ever used.
Can I run Photoshop on OpenBSD/FreeBSD/whateverBSD? I suppose I could run it with WINE, but there are no guarantees that it will work, nor will I get support from Adobe. I can, however, run it on OS X, vendor-supported and all. Whether or not you like OS X, it runs more software than anything else out there. Which is useful.
P.S. Your "AOL user" digs don't even bother me. You assume that I'm stupid, simply because I have a homepage on AOL, while you hide behind the aptly-named "Anonymous Coward" facade.
Two operating systems.
Mach and BSD were already integrated into OpenStep, although Apple did recently update the FreeBSD elements of OS X. Furthermore, Mac OS Classic compatibility is attained in two ways:
1. The "Carbon" API, which is available for Mac OS 8/9 (starting at 8.5, IIRC) and OS X.
2. The "Classic" environment, which essentially runs OS 9 inside of OS X.
Mac OS X traces back to OpenStep, and although it's largely compatible with OS 8/9 apps, OS X is not code-related to the classic Mac OS. (I'm sure SOME code was re-used, but all the core OS is either new or from OpenStep/BSD.) OS X could not be as stable as it is if it used Mac OS Classic code as a base, period. Mac OS Classic sucks, Mac OS X rocks.
Therefore, you are a dumbass.
Hi, Sensitive Claude!
Agreed. I use reiserfs on all my Slackware boxen, have for a while now. (Slackware does offer reiserfs during install.)
So will reiserfs 4 require a 2.6 kernel, or will those of us using 2.4 be able to use it? Also, does it require a re-format, or can you upgrade a v3 FS to v4?
Ironically, Slackware is probably the most BSD-like Linux distro there is.
(I should know, I have three Slackware boxes at the moment. I also have Mac OS X 10.2.8, which is essentially BSD.)
I believe there was once an outlook email worm that installed slackware... anybody have a link? (Better yet, source code?)
If you're going to disable all access to SSH, why not just stop sshd?
DUH.
If you were "my size", you'd need to pull your pants up that high too, mister. Gotta keep decent, after all. :-D
In case you didn't know, that's how it was during the 40's and 50's. And back then, every show had a sponsor.
(No, I wasn't alive back then.)
Hahahaha! Excellent.
Well.... I'm losing karma fast here, but some times the "BSD is dead" joke is funny (in context), and same for "Soviet Russia" jokes.
On the rest I agree with you.
...it must be a government funded project to screw up that badly.
Obviously, you keep it in a force field. You can't dissolve energy, right?
I think slashdot should save all these trolls time and just automatically post at -1, Troll: the GNAA, *BSD is dead, a goatse link, and maybe a beowulf cluster/Natalie Portman grits joke.
Imagine the time savings!
DOH! Shudda used preview button. Distributed.net.
Slashcode should auto-detect those screwups.
What's driving faster CPUs? Distributed.net statsmongers!
:)
The G4/G5 is the best chip for RC5, by the way.
It kicks the llama's ass, no?
I just had a personal experience with this. I haven't bought a new Intel-based computer since '96. When I build a PC, I use AMD. When I buy a system, I get a mac.
My aunt was going to buy three HP notebooks. I told her how the iBook was competetively priced and wouldn't get gummed up with spyware, adware, viruses, worms, etc. She just bought three iBooks, and I bet their next desktop will be a mac too, especially considering their "luck" with PCs.
So yes, Intel/MS does have something to worry about, because IMNSHO the "critical mass" for any other OS is about 25% market share. Sure, that's five times the current mac market share, but they're gaining.
And that Dell will be worth its weight in spyware, adware, worms, etc.. Mostly because that's what it'll be loaded with after about a month (week?) of regular use by a non-geek.
The mac will endure the same month of regular use without getting a bunch of shit all over it.
A secure computer out of the box: Priceless.
(Yes, I'm in a trollish mood. So are you.)
Screw worthwhile causes, I want optimized RC5-72 cores for distributed.net! The mere thought of it makes me drool.
Anybody know if it will work with a Radeon Mobility 9200? Because if somebody could port this to OS X and include it in distributed.net, that alone would be justification for the iBook I plan on getting.
Naturally, somebody is going to come along and tell me why a GPU would suck at RC5-72, and crush my dreams. Oh well.