Introducing The Dave/Dina Multimedia Distro
thomasvs writes "The Dave/Dina project is a small enthusiastic group of developers working on a complete open-sourced distribution for home entertainment systems. You can record and watch TV, watch DVD's, grab and listen to CD's, rate your music, videochat with other people, watch pictures, and all this on your TV set in the living room, with a remote control.
The first .iso set has just been released. This is a beta release meant to attract new developers, testers, and hackers, who want to work towards a similar goal. It works fine for us, but it might need fixing on other hardware, which is our next goal. On a related note, Happy New Year to everyone !"
Life still sucks.
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
This idea is like Windows XP Media Center Edition. Free software for everything you could possibly want in a Home Multimedia Center.
But ya'know, not at all gay like WinXP MCE
And why did you staple the trout to the RAM?
Damn... :)
"I either want less corruption, or more chance
to participate in it." -- Ashleigh Brilliant
This sounds similar to the VideoLAN project.
A great idea tho, tried it out a few years back to much success.
Karma Whoring for Fun and Profit.
For new servers.
They are down now.
You can record and watch TV - VCR / TIVO
watch DVD's - DVD Player
grab and listen to CD's - cd Player
rate your music - pen and paper, mental note
videochat with other people - any computer with a video cam
watch pictures - computers or actual photos combined with the power of sight
and all this on your TV set in the living room, with a remote control - universal remote
That's great an all, but this is for people who want it all-in-one. Maybe it's not for you, but sure does sound appealing to me.
Yes, but all that shit you mentioned cost mad amount of monies. You can build a PC for under $500 and with free software, have it equal an expensive PVR + dvd player. Oh, and watch all those divx movies that you 'backed up'.
10. Run it on a distro dedicated to multimedia playback and post it on /.
The rest is up to you
No sig for you!!
And lawyers and RIAA and MPAA who don't, oh my!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Oh well, should have started my ftp download a second sooner...
Anyone doing this already with satisfactory results? I'm loving Tivo but am very close to trying out the all in one option.
So is it easy to setup or a pain in the ass just like so many other products? What kind of TV tuners does it support?
"Rate your music" is a particularly stupid reason for media PC.
If I have the song, THAT's the good rating. The fact that I went out & got it. What kind of moron goes out to get music they don't like?
well good luck with the project in the new year. i think these distro's are good idea. something i would like to setup in my flat. but lack the spare hardware for now. Hope for the future.
Your only young once, but you can be imature forever.
Why?
Although I won't be finished installing until 2004, It will be good to take it up the ass from Larry!
That was quick. Did anybody catch a mirror? Or at least get some text so we have something to comment on other than each other?
just a HUNCH but I'd fathom a guess that this link isn't particularly relevant, or work safe. I don't know since I'm at work, and I value my job and my eyes. Follow with caution.
See you, space cowboy...
Please name one TV-capture card that captures and packs video into DivX using free software.
I have an el-cheapo card that does that perfectly in Windows, but under Linux (xawtv) it can hardly capture raw input (which I have to compress later manually).
The owls are not what they seem
> How do you feel about the compulsory body searches,
Have you been to New York?
Lots of people here are looking forward to the compulsory body searches!
MOD PARENT DOWN!!!!
This guy is always trolling...Mod Down. Better yet make him your enemy.
... that highly specialized distros of Linux like these are going to be what gets it into households. Bonus points of they make it CD bootable like Knoppix.
Man I'd love to have a mail server distro. Just run the install, then get a little wizard thing that asks the questions it needs to know to be configured, then boom, you have a mail server.
Make another for web server, office workstation, game distro, artist distro, PDA distro, etc. If focus is given to suit these needs, people will be less shy about trying them out. I know I would be. It's rather daunting to set up Linux, then have NFI what you want to do next, then when you do get an idea it's a PITA to find out what you need to do it.
"Derp de derp."
So does this make ivtv, lirc, etc... much easier to install. I bought a PVR-350 (tv tuner and tv-out) and a 160 GB hd to setup a multimedia center. The server (my primary computer) has the 160 GB hd, MySQL, and master mythtv backend. The client is a 450 MHz computer with the PVR-350. If it works well, I will buy another PVR-350 and put it in an extra 400 MHz computer. Quite scalable. The current problem is getting ivtv to compile properly.
Don't knock "backups". I have a two year old who knows how to press the DVD/CDROM eject button. She has also leaned on the open CD tray a few times, snapping one off already. Now I rip all my store bought DVDs so that I can play them without the DVD. It's more convenient, safer, and I can skip past all those annoying Disney previews.
Oddly enough, the Linux DivX actually works better than the divx.com player.
The hard part is getting TV out that is clean, supported and Hardware accelerated for mpeg1/2/4 playback.
A P-4 1.2 ghz machine has barely enough power if you dont have hardware playback for the video files, then you have to get a decent capture card (DVR-250/350 is the ONLY choice.) supported audio that doesnt suck... (SIS/I810/AC97 audio is the absolute worst you can get, and is usually on every motherboard.)
how about a standard hardware platform that works and wont be discontinued in 30 minutes?
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Hey, anyone have a .torrent for this?
Of course we can install all this software ourselves. But my mother can't.
The reason for using any Linux distribution is to have a maximum of useful and well configured software with minimum efforts.
My Red Hat 9, before I had done manual installations of many extra software or newer or different versions, couldn't play neither mp3s, mpgs, avis, nor movs.
We can do all this with any distribution just like we can program a complete database system in assembler, or we can have a perfectly secure network if we don't let default settings on OSes, etc.
Being able to do something is one thing, but being able to do this easily is another one.
How is this flamebait? The parent poster was trying to alert others of the bogus disgusting link in the grandparent post.
Sheesh moderators...
just a HUNCH but I'd fathom a guess that your post isn't particularly relevant (i.e. having to do with The Dave/Dina Multimedia Distro).
In the future, when you get /. to pump your new distro, make sure that your servers can handle the load first.
Morons.
Oddly enough, the Linux DivX actually works better than the divx.com player.
It's also Gator free.
Fine, thanks. And a merry "fuck you" for asking. If Bloomberg doesn't care about getting sued for doing something he believes in, that's OK with me.
its offtopic and rude
flamebait is an appropriate moderation
They should really be doing that in San Francisco, not New York.
This sounds totally cool! Maybe I should build a box for this and give it to the folks next year for christmas.
On a related note, Happy New Year to everyone !
thanks! but how is that anywhere near related?!
no thanks
Funny how CNN has withdrawn all quotes from a certain authority who acknowledged that some civil rights have been infringed (for the common good).
Except he was not a New York authority. It was New Jersey Governor Jim McGreedy^WMcGreevey.
As an aside, McGreevey is a Dean supporter. If Dean wins, expect another Reno/Ashcroft AG.
As I said, looks like the terrorists have won.
this is NOT a funny post.
it is offtopic and a cheap attempt to gain karma that should not be rewarded.
Then your a complete idiot if you can't get anything to work. Go back to winblows or crapple. We don't want you!
funny how David Dinkins complained about a couple immigrants getting shot up while Guliani was mayor. Sorry Mr. Dickhead, crime and police brutality was DOWN with Rudy in charge. When you were mayor, people were accidently getting gunned down everyday, by crooks and cops, but nobody cared because it happened every day.
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his tinyurl is set to redirect to a disgusting image part of the time and something nasty the other part of the time
dude that is a freaking disgusting webpage
worse than goatse
How do you feel about the compulsory body searches, helicopter gunships (that "can lethally disrupt any action on the ground"), Hercules patrols with submachine guns and snipers?
link please?
Do NOT do it.
Don't give the life/god/universe that satisfaction.
Be a pain-in-the-ass - insist on living as long as possible just to piss the universe off.
Post delivers, would read again. A++
I have a Motorola 5100 cable box.
From any TV in the house, I can get the standard analog channels 2-69. However, the digital channels 100-179 301-360, etc. only come in with the Moto 5100. Does this distro allow me to only record/pause/playback the analog channels, do I have to somehow connect it to the 5100 to see digital, or does it work on all channels with some special hardware?
Just askin.
These pants are dry-clean only!!
PLEASE! Like your mom can even connect this thing to the tv, or piece it together in the first place.
Some people just expect way too much of their parents. I bet her vcr is flashing 12:00 right this minute.
Sure, content makers never want to let their works go for free.
So charge people for the download. Allow access to every movie, book, piece of culture you can put in the database.
Allow people to comment on it and categorize similar works. Ie, if you liked the Lion King, maybe watch some other Disney movies.
But take it to obscure works, and you get to learn more about culture.
For kids, it would be invaluable for learning... Theres so many learning software packages for kids, edutainment, but they go obscure with each passing computer phase.
This would make your computer not only replace your television, but be enlightening too.
God spoke to me
How is this informative?
The tubgirl link is already modded down.
This is offtopic and decreases the signal-to-noise ration.
Please mod down.
"They've opened up..."
How is this informative?
The tubgirl link is already modded down.
This is offtopic and decreases the signal-to-noise ration.
Please mod down
Earlier today there were photos of the Hercules units watching the streets, snipers in Las Vegas and gunships getting ready for New York.
are buying the wrong cds :)
The project has a sourceforge page at http://sourceforge.net/projects/davedina.
No files there, but the CVS is being used and you can get to the web CVS archive to look around via http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/davedina
The software release being new, 2004 being new ergo!! :)
Sure there are software tools out there to do all the tasks listed, but are they easy to use fullscreen with a remote? Easy configuration is important, but I hope that this distribution does more than just bundle some destop-based apps.
Try out KnoppMyth which is a Knoppix bootable CD customized to do just MythTV
do we really need another one?
Yeah, but you can always set it up for her, just like you usually have to set the VCR up for her. Then she can (usually) figure out how to put in tapes and play them herself.
And besides, my mom aside, I would like something like this just for the convenience factor. I mean sure, I could do it all myself, but it would take absolutely ages and I would have to do a lot of reading to learn how. I think this distro's a great idea because it provides a good starting point for anyone.
I've been considering a client/server solution which places a low power (fanless) client PC near your home theater. This client would do things like announce incoming calls (vgetty), news, etc. The client would also be able to serve audio and possibly video content from the server.
Anyway.. for this to work effectively, I'd need a means to overlay graphics on the existing video signal to my TV/monitor. Does anyone know of an inexpensive means of doing this? Maintaining video quality is key. Many audio receivers do this w/ volume display, input selection, etc.
The only devices I've found that do this are "overlay/genlock" devices and cost hundreds of dollars.
TIA
The Hauppage WinTV PVR 250 (and 350) for that matter, both work on Linux. They encode TV signal to mpeg.
MythTv is required if you want to flag commercials, cut them out, and reincode.
It will transcode your output automatically to another format for you, but to cut out the commercials, you have to manually check/modify the automatically created flags, but that's just because no commercial flagging is perfect (though for some channels, myth's is damn close.
Maybe it's related because the system has gone up like a firecracker?
Ron Paul 2012
You're exactly right.
My entire family has figured out how to run the Myth box. Though none of them could set it up.
Does this mean that Dave/Dina's distro will be called Diva perhaps?
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A Google Search (dina tersago belgium) on a supermodel babe yields as it's first result, not a bunch of spam/pron sites, but a new Linux project ? WTF ? hehehe...
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech."--Benjamin Franklin
Please name one TV-capture card that captures and packs video into DivX using free software. I use a cheapo Hauppauge WinTV dbx/stereo card (model 401) and it works just fine. MythTV captures video from it and encodes it straight to DivX format to save it on the hard drive. Actually, my Athlon 2400+ easily captures a 480x480 input stream at 2200kbps from both my WinTV cards, encodes them in real time, and lets me watch one while also encoding. As long as you've got a 1GHz PIII or better you shouldn't have a problem encoding to DivX in realtime.
Great. Now I can have many more hours and channels of TV I don't want to watch.
These projects fail in the PVR stakes, at least for me, in that they don't have consistant, reliable sources of TV listings. Even if they do, they're often US-based. WebTV (remember that?!) and so on don't really work properly due to the fact they aren't supported worldwide. Unless you're going to pay somebody to provide your listings, they are probably going to just dry up. In Sky + I've got a reliable, if closed-source solution. But the developers are proactive and working on it, so its not all bad. For a project like this to be totally successful as a PVR it needs either a community willing to edit these listings (some are available anyway for free) or another method, like using DigiGuide or a similar system. Some of the PC-TV cards out there like the Black Gold use DigiGuide for PVR features. Trouble is, its currently Windows only.
Are you saying that you're not related to the folks?
Theres a great wealth of culture that the web doesn't have listed and referenced.
Instead of camping out television, you could actively pick any show you wanted to watch.
Don't pay cable or satellite bills, and the computer is the center of your entertainment system. Pay an internet bill instead.
The shows you want to watch would be easier to access. It didn't matter in the past, where there weren't many television shows/movies, and people would could see them all.
Now, someone may want to sitdown and watch a whole season of the Simpsons. Captain obvious will note, Kazaa already does this, but thats the point. There is a monopolistic demand for a cental site to hold information. Once media providers realize they could make more money off such a setup, they'd probably go for it.
Its like Blockbuster, but you don't have to leave your house. Now, the key is, that since its going to be a monopoly, once its in place, its going to be a monster. Now it can either be a good monster, like Puff the Magic Dragon, or a bad monster, like MTV. If its done benevolently, then you'll have it also educating our kids. But if its done corporately, it'll be trying to make our kids dumb enough to want more pairs of jeans than they need.
The key is, from the beginning of time, libraries have been man's dream of educating the world. They're a place of learning, and people with freedom to access them can benefit. One book can help more than one person. The internet lets people access that book without the limitations of traveling, or a publisher making copies of the book.
I'd want to get involved in such a project just to make sure the aim would be a positive change. There's no arguing this will be a success, because it will definately happen within the next 5-10 years. The question that is at hand is whether our kids will become more educated, or will they be subjected to corporate mind games. Movies, television, and video games are easy to watch. They can be used as tools to get kids motivated to want to learn and achieve.
Imagine a generation who thinks learning is fun and cool. Educated people are less likely to be self centered and caught up in the dog eat dog world. Educated people are the ones that cure diseases and make real positive change. I could go on and on, but I definately see an interest in participating strongly in this project if I was allowed. It has a far reaching impact.
God spoke to me
Like KnoppMyth?
Knoppix with MythTV preconfigured...
Installable, or will boot from CD as a frontend given a network Myth setup.
You're right. Help me lobby the government to create neighborhood storefronts which keep copies of thousands of books, fiction, nonfiction, reference. People could register to borrow the books, provided they return them in a short time. We could get local schools to do it too, I'm sure colleges will go crazy for this. If we get rolling now, I'm sure that we'll have nice, quiet places that people can go to read within the next 5-10 years. I even envision some of the more secretly repressed cute girls will want to staff them, keeping their hair pinned up, and ugly eyeglasses on, starring in the fantasies of geeks everywhere.
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Will the mascot be a pink dinosaur humping the leg of a cartoon version of Ralph Cramden?
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Will the distro support de100c (also de200c's) that were discontinued and fire-saled by HP about a year ago?
These are cool units that look like a consumer "stackable" A/V unit, have video out, IR with remote control, networking, internal hard disk, etc. They were intended for storing digital audio, but enterprising folks have tried running Linux video apps.
How would this distro fare?
see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/de100c for more info.
gnucleus is a good client for win32.
It may take 5-10 minutes to connect to another peer who isn't full though, depending on your isp.
Hit the advanced button to watch it try (and fail) the first few hundred times. It helps to search for something like "mp3" to generate traffic/listings.
She was hot!
There will be corporatization of online media, its happening already.
Once corporatization takes hold, there will be crackdowns on Kazaaalikes.
The penalties for downloading will be more pricing than the cost of the download.
This means the over all price of media will drop too, and the masses will adopt it.
One cablebox/computer, that plugs into your TV. Allows you to watch any movie or television show ever made.
This is what the future holds. If its a good box, or a bad box is up to the creator of it.
This is one, if you're in it for the money, you're doing evil.
God spoke to me
I was thinking about this earlier tonight while listening to music from my computer. I have a bunch of music, some I like better than others, and I was in the mood to skip the so-so music tonight. I thought maybe I should stick them in separate folders based on what degree I like, and than thought, no, that is what the rating system with playlist should do, allowing me to mix in and shuffle songs based on ratings and % I want, like 90% of songs played have a 5 star rating, and the other 20% at least a three star,
which I can change when I want.
Of course, my media player doesn't support this, but it would be a great feature.
I'm having trouble laughing at stuff anymore when theres an opprotunity present to make the world a better place.
Laughing at something is just shugging it off, like its satire, and something that's going to go on regardless.
To me, its hard to joke about something so gravely serious, and difficult to understand.
With children being influenced by school, parents, and the media, its tough to lay blame anywhere.
This system will be a one of the largest influences on children for the future.
God spoke to me