Me: Sir, have you considered the possibility that the problem might be at your end? Customer: What?!? Fuck you, you wise-ass! Get your shit fixed now or I'll sue you! Me: Alright... Calm down sir. Let me explain... [Press the 30 minute skip button] Customer: Ah, hmm... Yes, it seems to be my own firewall after all. Guess you were right. Thanks for help! Me: No problem at all! I'm here to serve!
Oh, btw. Have you got a confirmation from Sanborn for your theory? (I wouldn't be holding my breath even if you are right thou...)
And now, for once. I am serious: I am intrigued by what you say, and would like to subscribe to your news letter. Honestly. If you get a publishing deal, or decide to share your theory without beforehand monetary compensation, I'd be very interested whenever you have something to tell. (Email address at comment header)
Hmm, actually I think there should be a third name for todays gizmos which silly users click because they promise porn, or whatever. I think originally the term virus was coined because of their way of infecting a binary/media. For executables, the usual way to attach itself to something was to hi-jack the initialization part of the executable and use it to wrap self around the real executable. Pretty much same for media -- Replace bootsector with self, re-locate old bootsector. You really could see the analogy of viral behaviour. I think I just hate using the term virus for these new things because they are terribly unclever compared to the old way of infection. *shrug*
Whether it runs Symbian is irrelevant. No, wait. No it's not. There still doesn't exists a single Symbian VIRUS which could SELF-REPLICATE. Because it should be impossible.
If a phone asks you: a) Random guy is sending you a file, do you want to receive it? b) This file is an installable application with name XYZ, would you like to install it? c) The origin of this application could not be verified, unless you trust the source, it is not recommended to install it. Would you like to install it anyway? d) Application XYZ want's to use bluetooth interface, do you allow this? Do you answer YES to each of these questions? I wouldn't.
Anyway, if this one truely replicates without user intervention, there must exists a way to execute the code. What is the normal way to achieve this on PC? Stack/buffer flaw within a privileged process. Now, I'm going to say something which will come and bite me in the ass: There is no way to execute code 'accidentally' in Symbian.
If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd be most interested in how it is done...
Sorry about my pompous attitude. I'm sure someone will figure something out in the future, but right now, is there a way?
When we were young, these horseless carriages were mystery and we were drawn to them like... *bleh*
What the fuck is this? Can't you see the computers are already a commondity. To draw your kid to computer science today is the same as forcing them to learn combustion engines hundred years ago. I don't care how my car works. When (if ever) I get a new profession, I don't care how my computer works either.
Just let the kid live and find his ambition. I'd nudge my kid at quatum physics, biology and gene technology thou....
Have you ever been porting/documenting/something someone elses Symbian C++ code? It's fricking hilarious. Symbian forces certain design principles upon you, but the design is so arcane for the small pieces of software, it makes it next to impossible to decipher someone elses Symbian code. Especially if the previous developer has adopted the "correct" way of structuring app/ui/doc/view in different files plus followed the UI/Engine guideline too. Ofcourse you must do everything asynchronously with Active Objects (aka. poor man's threads)
"Hello world" takes atleast 300 lines and walking through it in debugger (assuming you want too see and understand each line) takes an hour or so...Hmm This turned into a rant. Oh well, I already wrote it so here goes. 'Submit'
I think it would be fair to not to disclose the code. They wanted to see if they can do it, and they did. They 'awarded' themselves with free bike rides.
I don't think their mission was to fuck the company over by giving anyone free rides.
The article was very well written and interesting. It wasn't exactly benevolent towards the company, but not truely evil either. I hope they wont get sued. (Whoever did this...)
Umm... That might be your opinion. For you, FPGA programming might be trivial but you are lost when it goes down to hardware. However, not everyone in on the globe have the exactly skillset as you.
I have education in electrical automation (mainly analogue processes, logics (CS21 et.al.), instrumentation and so forth. Lot of electronics and hardware thou...) I'm a self taught programmer in several languages and currently earning my salary at the software side on ARM9 processors.
To me, both chip design and FPGA design seem quite plausible but too laborous to even try to pursue on my own. Jack of all arts you might say...
Mathematics and physical phenomenons involved in electrical science are not too complicated anymore. Many before us have already figured much out, and much of that information is available to everyone.
Here's a link for the central internet exchange for Finnish ISP's to link together. Coralized FICIX stats.
Compare the stats from week ago, and today. Guess what changed? Most telling is the last graph indicating traffic for the whole year. The largest Finnish torrent site, Finreactor got busted by Keskusrikospoliisi (roughly the same as FBI of USA).
You _DO_ understand writing design documents for technical projects is pretty much the same as daydreaming about conquering the world at the age of seven?
(What? No! I never had visions of grandeur! It was Hitler! Hitler I tell you!)
Slashdot Mirror
Atleast it beats a lot of dead horse...
That would be sweet...
Me: Sir, have you considered the possibility that the problem might be at your end?
Customer: What?!? Fuck you, you wise-ass! Get your shit fixed now or I'll sue you!
Me: Alright... Calm down sir. Let me explain...
[Press the 30 minute skip button]
Customer: Ah, hmm... Yes, it seems to be my own firewall after all. Guess you were right. Thanks for help!
Me: No problem at all! I'm here to serve!
Introductory Astronomy and Astrophysics, 4th ed, by Zeilik and Gregory.
/.?
What the HELL?!? You'r actually quoting sources on
Oh, btw.
Have you got a confirmation from Sanborn for your theory? (I wouldn't be holding my breath even if you are right thou...)
And now, for once. I am serious:
I am intrigued by what you say, and would like to subscribe to your news letter.
Honestly. If you get a publishing deal, or decide to share your theory without beforehand monetary compensation, I'd be very interested whenever you have something to tell.
(Email address at comment header)
Please tell me it's nothing like this? :)
(Oh, I was going to say John is confident he got it, but I rechecked the page and apparently he got denial from Sanborn on 21th)
OBKR
UOXOGHULBSOLI FBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
TWTQSJQSSEKZZ WATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
VTTMZFPKWGDKZ XTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
The first one to decipher this one gets a cookie.
(And prolly world wide recognition)
http://www.fizzl.net/projects/crypto/
:))
NOH, OVDKOWV WACK CAXK "GBVKXKWVGBI XAVOVGAB"...
(Yes, I know my 'crypto tools' are lame doodlings
Hmm, actually I think there should be a third name for todays gizmos which silly users click because they promise porn, or whatever.
I think originally the term virus was coined because of their way of infecting a binary/media. For executables, the usual way to attach itself to something was to hi-jack the initialization part of the executable and use it to wrap self around the real executable. Pretty much same for media -- Replace bootsector with self, re-locate old bootsector. You really could see the analogy of viral behaviour.
I think I just hate using the term virus for these new things because they are terribly unclever compared to the old way of infection. *shrug*
Whether it runs Symbian is irrelevant.
No, wait. No it's not. There still doesn't exists a single Symbian VIRUS which could SELF-REPLICATE. Because it should be impossible.
If a phone asks you:
a) Random guy is sending you a file, do you want to receive it?
b) This file is an installable application with name XYZ, would you like to install it?
c) The origin of this application could not be verified, unless you trust the source, it is not recommended to install it. Would you like to install it anyway?
d) Application XYZ want's to use bluetooth interface, do you allow this?
Do you answer YES to each of these questions?
I wouldn't.
Anyway, if this one truely replicates without user intervention, there must exists a way to execute the code. What is the normal way to achieve this on PC? Stack/buffer flaw within a privileged process.
Now, I'm going to say something which will come and bite me in the ass: There is no way to execute code 'accidentally' in Symbian.
If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd be most interested in how it is done...
Sorry about my pompous attitude. I'm sure someone will figure something out in the future, but right now, is there a way?
Next Slashdot will accept WWN submissions too?
(For the uninitiated, google for weekly world news)
My first thought was:
"Damn, we already promised the big business that they'd get their patents. Lets retry."
When we were young, these horseless carriages were mystery and we were drawn to them like...
*bleh*
What the fuck is this?
Can't you see the computers are already a commondity. To draw your kid to computer science today is the same as forcing them to learn combustion engines hundred years ago.
I don't care how my car works. When (if ever) I get a new profession, I don't care how my computer works either.
Just let the kid live and find his ambition. I'd nudge my kid at quatum physics, biology and gene technology thou....
Amen.
..Hmm This turned into a rant. Oh well, I already wrote it so here goes. 'Submit'
Have you ever been porting/documenting/something someone elses Symbian C++ code? It's fricking hilarious. Symbian forces certain design principles upon you, but the design is so arcane for the small pieces of software, it makes it next to impossible to decipher someone elses Symbian code.
Especially if the previous developer has adopted the "correct" way of structuring app/ui/doc/view in different files plus followed the UI/Engine guideline too. Ofcourse you must do everything asynchronously with Active Objects (aka. poor man's threads)
"Hello world" takes atleast 300 lines and walking through it in debugger (assuming you want too see and understand each line) takes an hour or so.
I think it would be fair to not to disclose the code. They wanted to see if they can do it, and they did. They 'awarded' themselves with free bike rides.
I don't think their mission was to fuck the company over by giving anyone free rides.
The article was very well written and interesting. It wasn't exactly benevolent towards the company, but not truely evil either.
I hope they wont get sued. (Whoever did this...)
And subtle sarcasm...
/. spirit I neclegted(sp?) to read the last paragraph thus failing to see the humour was already implied...
Sorry. In true
Or maybe "Library". I can't figure out what resides in there.
The documentation?
Umm... That might be your opinion.
For you, FPGA programming might be trivial but you are lost when it goes down to hardware. However, not everyone in on the globe have the exactly skillset as you.
I have education in electrical automation (mainly analogue processes, logics (CS21 et.al.), instrumentation and so forth. Lot of electronics and hardware thou...)
I'm a self taught programmer in several languages and currently earning my salary at the software side on ARM9 processors.
To me, both chip design and FPGA design seem quite plausible but too laborous to even try to pursue on my own. Jack of all arts you might say...
Mathematics and physical phenomenons involved in electrical science are not too complicated anymore. Many before us have already figured much out, and much of that information is available to everyone.
Here's a link for the central internet exchange for Finnish ISP's to link together. Coralized FICIX stats.
;P
Compare the stats from week ago, and today. Guess what changed?
Most telling is the last graph indicating traffic for the whole year.
The largest Finnish torrent site, Finreactor got busted by Keskusrikospoliisi (roughly the same as FBI of USA).
I guess they weren't sharing just Linux images
You _DO_ understand writing design documents for technical projects is pretty much the same as daydreaming about conquering the world at the age of seven?
(What? No! I never had visions of grandeur! It was Hitler! Hitler I tell you!)
And make them Dell's.
This Latitude of mine is incredibly hot and noisy. No way I'm hodling this on my lap without atleast two layers of pants.
Well, the short story:
$250k is peanuts and shrinking daily.
Damnit. I was chuckling all the way to the last paragraph. I was waiting for some sarcastic remark about how this applies to the US population... :/
Just wait 'till you have kids.
Homer: For me, the sixties ended that day in 1978.
If I was the poster of the article, I would say:
YHBT
HAND