I have been running Linux for around three years now, had been an old ibook before then (which had been dual booting Ubuntu at its end of days), and before that OS 9.
I had a pretty good experience of an integrated, stable OS, from Apple, and i maintain that the Apple OS is great, and really stable, at least as for as 10.4 (thats as far as i know about), however the privilege of using there OS is not worth the mugging you receive when you buy one of their computers, i mean they make it so hard to find out the exact specifics of their machines on their site, but when you do a bit of digging you find that they were using the lowest end of any one range, just so they can advertise that they are using that range, at least when i last checked. I remember finding out they where using really low end Core 2s, when Core2s where already out of date, and also advertising dual core i7s, assuming everyone would think they were quad, as that's what i7 were famous for being. It was a complete racket, pay above they odds, for sub par hardware, oh did we mention you can upgrade RAM, HD, etc, on checkout? What do you think of our prices?
Go suck a a fucking pee-pee, Jobs.
Guess what i have now? A cheap Dell Inspiron 1300, released only about a year after my ibook, as Dell's bottom of the range laptop, and it screams compared to that old ibook, certainly it helps that the laptop was designed with the customer in mind and all main components are easily accessible and upgradable.
Furthermore, Linux is just as stable and well integrated as OS X, and so much more fun to use, not to mention the freedom to control your own system Linux affords.
And Windows, well lets just say my girlfriend uses Vista, shall we? Perhaps not the fairest comparison. However, it's not just the awful, grindingly slow OS. Its the whole bully, threat level, daddy knows best philosophy they force on users as well. Say we are rushing out and we turn of our computers, and Windows decides it's going to force some updates after shutdown has been initiated, without warning and without telling us what they are, and which takes ages, meaning we have to sit and wait or opt to leave the power on for however long. She is so used to being bossed around by Windows though, she thinks its normal.
Good news is, she has taken to KDE, because, yes, it does appear much more Windows like than say, GNOME, so would be a more comfortable transition for her. And lets face it, it's more glitzy and visually appealing to casual users.
I do believe if Windows wasnt pre-loaded on all PCs there is no way they would have won the desktop, at least not on merit (look at the sever space).
But, we also have to accept that currently Linux is probably too involved for many casual users to feel comfortable using, certainly after a lifetime of being babied by MS. Not because its too hard necessarily, but because they aren’t interested in and dont want to give the time it takes to learn.
That said though modern Linux distros are pretty much idiot proof out of the box, it's just when something goes wrong or some tweaking is required and they find out, say from a forum or readme (which often assume some prior knowledge), that they have to edit a configuration file or mess with terminal, and this can be a bit intimidating, they just want to point and click.
I remember when we were kids and our old PowerPC Performa would display that warning with the little bomb logo my dad would freak out, tell us not to touch anything and move away. He later told me he thought it was going to explode. HA ha. People are intimidated by computers and Windows fosters that in the way it words things, which in turns feeds that unease and lets you believe that that a paternalistic OS is good because it somehow protects you from yourself and what you might do. Oh yeh, and Windows goes horribly wrong enough to enforce that fear.
Firstly, you need to Ctrl + Shift + V to paste in terminal, as you must also press Shift as well as Ctrl when attempting shortcuts that normally just require Ctrl.
Secondly, opening Chromium copying URL, quitting Chromium and copying URL to Leafpad and Terminal worked fine just now, for me. Dont know if its because i am using Glipper to manage clipboard, also using Openbox and Gnome-Panel.
Their measurements are not based on tracking these events as they unfold, like measuring distance with a perambulator. Thus the amount of time modern astronomy has been around for is irrelevant. Devising theories based on inferences from data, using logical reasoning, and attempts at falsification is a widely used method in science.
Shall i risk the obligatory comparison?
If i had a car...
No.
How about: Evolutionary biology has only been around for 150 years, how can these scientists feel secure measuring events that span millions of years?
It comes in Debian too, i have never used it, though just had a look at it and it is very polished and simple to use, and seems to meet the basic tenets of an "app-store", no?
By logging dependencies and deleting them when an application is removed, aptitude wins. I never use anything else to install, just use Synaptic to browse packages and query the repos.
Lack of copy/paste is a head-scratcher, but lets be fair, by the time win-phone7 came to market that function in high-end phones had been long established and its absence was embarrassing.
"Totally ignore that little letter under their names, because in the end it really is only there to distract you. Instead, vote for candidates based on their political histories, and corporate affiliation statuses"
I concur. On a broader (global) scale, it seems to me that the whole notion of left and right wing, whilst it might be seen as a useful shorthand, is actually, not only facile, archaic and lacking in contemporary relevance, but also a false dichotomy. That is, the idea that you think one way about one particular issue means that you should (or are assumed to) believe a certain way about a whole host of other, not necessarily, directly related matters. Its asinine.
And besides, the semantics of the nomenclature is inherently biased against the, so called, left wing. Right is right, right? Seems simplistic, but the subconscious effects of word associations should not be underplayed, especially where simplistic minds are concerned. Not only that, but the right (as in that which is apposed to left) is associated with strength, masculinity and divinity, the left - femininity, weakness and profanity. And, i know yanks arnt big on foreign languages (yes thats a dig, though, brits arnt either, so... and im half both), yet, im sure i dont have to explain the english meaning of, or translate the word, 'gauche', or point out the etymology of the english word 'adroit'. In fact 'droit' in french comes from a word for justice and rightness. Shit goes deep.
Games rigged, upturn the board.
Yes indeed. Debian, in my experience much more reliable than ubuntu, running Openbox with Gnome2 panel serves well, is lightweight, and stable.
Who needs a tablet interface on a PC/laptop anyways?
Who, other than those in certain industries, needs a tablet, for that matter? It must be so nice relaxing on your sofa watching a movie on an oversized, underpowered phone, with two thoroughly dead arms. Oh wait, you could by a slick magnetic stand. Or perhaps get a laptop, which has a stand, with a keyboard, built in.
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Tenuous link, but a great tune.
Point well made there.
"I'm not a homophobe -- I have gay friends even"
I'm not racist -- I have black friends even.
Open goal.
I pretty much agree.
I have been running Linux for around three years now, had been an old ibook before then (which had been dual booting Ubuntu at its end of days), and before that OS 9.
I had a pretty good experience of an integrated, stable OS, from Apple, and i maintain that the Apple OS is great, and really stable, at least as for as 10.4 (thats as far as i know about), however the privilege of using there OS is not worth the mugging you receive when you buy one of their computers, i mean they make it so hard to find out the exact specifics of their machines on their site, but when you do a bit of digging you find that they were using the lowest end of any one range, just so they can advertise that they are using that range, at least when i last checked. I remember finding out they where using really low end Core 2s, when Core2s where already out of date, and also advertising dual core i7s, assuming everyone would think they were quad, as that's what i7 were famous for being. It was a complete racket, pay above they odds, for sub par hardware, oh did we mention you can upgrade RAM, HD, etc, on checkout? What do you think of our prices?
Go suck a a fucking pee-pee, Jobs.
Guess what i have now? A cheap Dell Inspiron 1300, released only about a year after my ibook, as Dell's bottom of the range laptop, and it screams compared to that old ibook, certainly it helps that the laptop was designed with the customer in mind and all main components are easily accessible and upgradable.
Furthermore, Linux is just as stable and well integrated as OS X, and so much more fun to use, not to mention the freedom to control your own system Linux affords.
And Windows, well lets just say my girlfriend uses Vista, shall we? Perhaps not the fairest comparison. However, it's not just the awful, grindingly slow OS. Its the whole bully, threat level, daddy knows best philosophy they force on users as well. Say we are rushing out and we turn of our computers, and Windows decides it's going to force some updates after shutdown has been initiated, without warning and without telling us what they are, and which takes ages, meaning we have to sit and wait or opt to leave the power on for however long. She is so used to being bossed around by Windows though, she thinks its normal.
Good news is, she has taken to KDE, because, yes, it does appear much more Windows like than say, GNOME, so would be a more comfortable transition for her. And lets face it, it's more glitzy and visually appealing to casual users.
I do believe if Windows wasnt pre-loaded on all PCs there is no way they would have won the desktop, at least not on merit (look at the sever space).
But, we also have to accept that currently Linux is probably too involved for many casual users to feel comfortable using, certainly after a lifetime of being babied by MS. Not because its too hard necessarily, but because they aren’t interested in and dont want to give the time it takes to learn.
That said though modern Linux distros are pretty much idiot proof out of the box, it's just when something goes wrong or some tweaking is required and they find out, say from a forum or readme (which often assume some prior knowledge), that they have to edit a configuration file or mess with terminal, and this can be a bit intimidating, they just want to point and click.
I remember when we were kids and our old PowerPC Performa would display that warning with the little bomb logo my dad would freak out, tell us not to touch anything and move away. He later told me he thought it was going to explode. HA ha. People are intimidated by computers and Windows fosters that in the way it words things, which in turns feeds that unease and lets you believe that that a paternalistic OS is good because it somehow protects you from yourself and what you might do. Oh yeh, and Windows goes horribly wrong enough to enforce that fear.
Firstly, you need to Ctrl + Shift + V to paste in terminal, as you must also press Shift as well as Ctrl when attempting shortcuts that normally just require Ctrl.
Secondly, opening Chromium copying URL, quitting Chromium and copying URL to Leafpad and Terminal worked fine just now, for me. Dont know if its because i am using Glipper to manage clipboard, also using Openbox and Gnome-Panel.
What if they’re bluffing?
And they're actually working in secret with Sega, for the ultimate Japanese comeback?
In that instance it was indeed, yes, hard to tell. It really really was.
Though, i will admit that tone of voice is often the giveaway.
You're a no brainer.
Americans and irony. WHOOSH indeed.
"It has been roughly one full generation of developers since 1994"
Its not as if generations move through the industry in a block, like tribal age-group initiates.
Their measurements are not based on tracking these events as they unfold, like measuring distance with a perambulator. Thus the amount of time modern astronomy has been around for is irrelevant. Devising theories based on inferences from data, using logical reasoning, and attempts at falsification is a widely used method in science.
Shall i risk the obligatory comparison?
If i had a car...
No.
How about: Evolutionary biology has only been around for 150 years, how can these scientists feel secure measuring events that span millions of years?
What about aptitude for better dependency handling?
It comes in Debian too, i have never used it, though just had a look at it and it is very polished and simple to use, and seems to meet the basic tenets of an "app-store", no?
By logging dependencies and deleting them when an application is removed, aptitude wins. I never use anything else to install, just use Synaptic to browse packages and query the repos.
Fair cop guv.
Celebrating the departure of all the worlds christians by throwing toilet paper out of the window whilst shitting on the bible.
A cold sore is herpes. Was it still worth it?
Lack of copy/paste is a head-scratcher, but lets be fair, by the time win-phone7 came to market that function in high-end phones had been long established and its absence was embarrassing.
Something has been done to them, they are pod-people. English people do not behave like that. We do not whoop.
Thats the gaurdian, not the sun. There are many british papers, which many editorial policies.
-- Grammar is effective when meaning is conveyed and i balk at english spelling conventions. So, go suck a pee-pee.
Worked
it
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I have been up all night, but ...how do you create line spaces in slashdot comments? Is the enter key not sufficient?
"Totally ignore that little letter under their names, because in the end it really is only there to distract you. Instead, vote for candidates based on their political histories, and corporate affiliation statuses" I concur. On a broader (global) scale, it seems to me that the whole notion of left and right wing, whilst it might be seen as a useful shorthand, is actually, not only facile, archaic and lacking in contemporary relevance, but also a false dichotomy. That is, the idea that you think one way about one particular issue means that you should (or are assumed to) believe a certain way about a whole host of other, not necessarily, directly related matters. Its asinine. And besides, the semantics of the nomenclature is inherently biased against the, so called, left wing. Right is right, right? Seems simplistic, but the subconscious effects of word associations should not be underplayed, especially where simplistic minds are concerned. Not only that, but the right (as in that which is apposed to left) is associated with strength, masculinity and divinity, the left - femininity, weakness and profanity. And, i know yanks arnt big on foreign languages (yes thats a dig, though, brits arnt either, so... and im half both), yet, im sure i dont have to explain the english meaning of, or translate the word, 'gauche', or point out the etymology of the english word 'adroit'. In fact 'droit' in french comes from a word for justice and rightness. Shit goes deep. Games rigged, upturn the board.
Yes indeed. Debian, in my experience much more reliable than ubuntu, running Openbox with Gnome2 panel serves well, is lightweight, and stable. Who needs a tablet interface on a PC/laptop anyways? Who, other than those in certain industries, needs a tablet, for that matter? It must be so nice relaxing on your sofa watching a movie on an oversized, underpowered phone, with two thoroughly dead arms. Oh wait, you could by a slick magnetic stand. Or perhaps get a laptop, which has a stand, with a keyboard, built in.