Mainstream media censors news and entertainment in the US, but starting your own sidebar discussion about how corrupt politicians are or dumb the president is in a cafe won't get you arrested. The problem isn't the media - it's the people that think news is entertainment. If they abandoned shock based entertainnews, rating would falter and that would be that.
Heck, threatening the president only gets you an obligatory visit by his guards, you don't get beaten up and dissappeared. Heck, they probably agree that he's an idiot too - they get to hear his real stupidity.
Here run a test. Take the following quote:
"Every government official in [insert country your standing in here] should be run out of office on the backs of a mob and replaced with someone who isn't allowed to accept any money for their duties."
Have a chinese friend translate it for you and help you pronounce it correctly. Drive/fly to Washington, DC. Stand in front of the Capital building and shout this, repeatedly, until you're sure someone official looking hear you.
Now, fly to China and repeat this action in front of their government building in Chinese. Let us know the results when you get back home....
Even if you aren't a customer, start calling them periodically and showing up on their call center bill.
It would behoove someone to make an app to provide times to call and numbers to call to keep the overall volume up so it shows up on managements radar.
I and 1 million of my closest friends start hitting their call centers like the rabid chimpanzees we will have become until their customer support bills have more that gobbled up the money they would have hypothetically earned from extorting companies who provide the reason we are on the net in the first place.
Will they try to charge banks for throughput next? retail stores? And after they are done upping everyones bills, will they forget they've done it and start again?
My point exactly. It doesn't, nor does it relate to music - which was the argument the fab four were making. A trademark doesn't protect the individual words - just look at the typical entry at USPTO. They ofter have something such as "NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "SOFTWARE" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN" included in order to pass muster with the office. So the trademark isn't considered to protect "Apple" or "computer". It's only on "Apple Computer". That said, they can enforce against someone creating "Apple Technologies" because the name implies they are in the same industry.
Not positive moderation, negative. Sorry, didn't clarify - the idea is that you can have dings against you if you are a site masses of people (keep in mind the exceptionally large user base) think you are useless.
The only thing millions of spambots could do is ding themselves, not improve their ranking. They are already doing the latter with cross-links to other spam bots... This idea is to counter that one.
these concerns are marginalized when the number of people involved get as high as the user base of google.
If you and a thousand of your friends try to inflate your site's search score when your site is just an advertising monkey, good luck trying to keep it there if the user base can tag it as useless.
When the entire population of the target base can weigh in on the results, I don't think that's censorship, that's putting a user-factor in the sort-order. The autogenerated sites' results aren't eliminated, they are just reduced in efficacy.
Blocking Spam is more censorship than moving gen'ed web sites to the bottom of a search result set.
I've thought about this before for a piece of social software I'm working on - corroboration.
I'm a human, and I wrote the software. I advertise it to a few friends who I know (think) are human and confirm this in the server - these accounts have humans behind them. As the number of users increases the burden on any one to prove they are a human being goes up and they have to find people already confirmed in the system to "nominate" them as legitimate humans on the system.
If a bot manages to make it in, a negative feedback system will cause it to likely get tagged as non-human. If the bot is tagged as such, an message goes out to nearby users to confirm or deny the accusation. If most say it's a bot, away it goes. But more importantly anyone the bot nominated gets tagged as a potential bot as well and also comes underscrutiny until the cluster is removed.
I disagree. This isn't about a lack of fair play. The musical geniuses at Apple Corp chose the name of their company incredibly unwisely. Can someone please tell me what about the name "Apple Corp" indicates that it is in the music industry? Nothing, absolutely nothing - more likely the fruit business. Apple Computer, on the other hand sells computers and software. The fact that their product is used to transmit music, completely irrelevant.
Had they chosen the name The Apple Music Corp, non of this would have been an issue whatsoever. If you establish a trademark, at least have the foresight to precisely identify what the trademark is for so you don't get into unnecessary legal disputes.
They chose a bad name, they tried to sue to keep their heads in the sand about it, and someone brought a shovel. Happens all the time, and this was the right outcome...
Well given that a human would have a hard time deciding if the page was autogen'ed if the text was in their second language, this *is* quite an issue.
So it sounds like Google needs to *shudder* have a user feedback system where humans with logins add moderation metadata to the search results and in return get results based on this moderation en-mass.
I know what your thinking,/. has it and it sux, but does it really? I'm always pretty confident that the goatse and gnaa and all that other crap will never make it to a score of 5 when I'm on it. Maybe that's what Google needs to throw the weight back in their court - human intervention on a colossal scale.
It would withstand abuse since a massive amount of human inputed data would keep spambots from trying to exploit the moderation system. What's more, their toolbar could incorporate the control to flag a page as autogen'ed garbage.
Hang on a sec... the head of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention is "vaguely relevant to the subject"... So are general's vaguely relevant to wars that participate in?
That's it folks, parties over. Sure, we're 60 million users, but apparently there are a few hundred evil bastards in this world, so your government has decided it's our fault that they can interact with you.
So go home and write a letter to the following jackass:
and find somewhere's else to go. Maybe that playground with the dirty old man who's there every wednesday, shuffling cards underneath a blanket in his lap. What? The park's closed too? Bummer...
**************
I'd post this on the front page along with contact information including phone number for the jerks who think they can control the world and the people in it.
I'd reopen when said political meddler's fly to my office to be part of the grand reopening.
Now advertisements for COTS products are news articles?
While I appreciate the articles on NASA releasing code analysis tools - or pointers to freshmeat - embelishing about something I can't immediately use is boring. Procurement happens at a snails pace for purchased software - gimme something I can throw on the stage and start training dev's to use.
Or at least something in depth that shows statistics on *how much* the schedule slips by when taking this security first approach - that would be news: "WSJ reports security-first approach to software costs 18% increase in time to deliver"
Gee, that's nice. You're assuming that the people in the US are actually WORKING during all of those hours, among other things.
Given your two speculations, I'd say the individual health-care decision making would have more to do with the amount of time people in the US are sick; however, it's not what actually gets them there in the first time, nor is it in all likelihood the days off from work.
It's Germs. Germs get us sick. And I would hypothesis it has more to do with the transient nature of people in the US and the constant co-mingling of nationalities. Standing in a hospital will make you sick. Standing in an airport will as well.
But if you want a controversial hypothesis, you may be close to home with the work thing - I would venture to guess that children in the US spend more time in daycare and schools (not boarding schools) that those in the US. Anyone with a child in this country knows the best way to stay permanently sick is to repeatedly pick up your kid from day-care after they spent the entire day with the other germ-factories. But this is excaserbated by the fact that there are so many different types of people dropping their kids off in these places.
Nothing to do with time off at all, given how much time off Americans take at work.
Start up a phishing cluster. Collect authentic notices from various banks (fidelity investement statement notice, etc). Fire copies of these notices to "customers" in an html email. Add a graphic touch to a node in your cluster with a uid traceable to that email address. This email should otherwise be harmless and point to the actual institution - this leaves you with great options on what to email - Retirement tutorials, account statement notices, privacy statements.
If the customer has an account there, they are likely to open the email. By opening it, your cluster is pinged and notified that this email worked.
So now you have a more probable positive hit. Send them a customer service request to call and discuss apparent fraudulent transactions on their account.
Sketchy scenario at best - cops are almost never around when a crime is committed. More likely I would be questioned after the fact. What's more, they could not prove it was me so charges wouldn't be filed and the home owners insurance would fix the window.
If you're suggesting that people who do nothing wrong should be treated like criminals whether a crime has been committed or not, well then, I guess that's where we're headed now, isn't it.
I've carried a state ID for over 20 years, and I've never had anyone ask to see my papers.
I've carried one for 25, I have. I was walking from my apartment to 5 Season's Brewery in Atlanta. The apartment was having a Christmas party at the bar.
As I returned home, a cop pulled up in the road, got out and asked me where I was going. I told him, home - my apartment is just up the street. He asked the name of it - I told him, Calibre Springs.
Then he asked me for my driver's license. I told him, I'm not driving. Then he clarified and asked for some sort of identification. I told him my name. He asked for proof. I asked for the reason I was being stopped and questioned - a crime in the area? someone complain about me specifically? Because otherwise, I'm just a guy walking home from a Christmas party. He reiterated - a physical piece of identification. I gave him my license. He continued asking me questions about the party and my residence - nevermind that the latter is printed on the license.
Apparently, living next to housing where immigrants live is enough to warrant questioning. And no, I did not test his tolerance for my refusals. I handed him my papers.
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one recurring protestor who has a history of spray painting protests on government property got fined $500? Wow, they dissappeared him alright.
I am now going to attempt the unthinkable!
Ahem...
Microsoft had to be "prodded and dragged, kicking and screaming"...
So, uh, how exactly did the members of the Disability Policy Consortium pull that off?
*ducks*
You're kidding right?
Mainstream media censors news and entertainment in the US, but starting your own sidebar discussion about how corrupt politicians are or dumb the president is in a cafe won't get you arrested. The problem isn't the media - it's the people that think news is entertainment. If they abandoned shock based entertainnews, rating would falter and that would be that.
Heck, threatening the president only gets you an obligatory visit by his guards, you don't get beaten up and dissappeared. Heck, they probably agree that he's an idiot too - they get to hear his real stupidity.
Here run a test. Take the following quote:
"Every government official in [insert country your standing in here] should be run out of office on the backs of a mob and replaced with someone who isn't allowed to accept any money for their duties."
Have a chinese friend translate it for you and help you pronounce it correctly. Drive/fly to Washington, DC. Stand in front of the Capital building and shout this, repeatedly, until you're sure someone official looking hear you.
Now, fly to China and repeat this action in front of their government building in Chinese. Let us know the results when you get back home....
Not later, not after they have managed to buy enough govies. Right now.
Comcast:
http://www.comcast.com/Localization/Localize.ashx
Road runner:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/Localization/Corpo
Even if you aren't a customer, start calling them periodically and showing up on their call center bill.
It would behoove someone to make an app to provide times to call and numbers to call to keep the overall volume up so it shows up on managements radar.
I and 1 million of my closest friends start hitting their call centers like the rabid chimpanzees we will have become until their customer support bills have more that gobbled up the money they would have hypothetically earned from extorting companies who provide the reason we are on the net in the first place.
Will they try to charge banks for throughput next? retail stores? And after they are done upping everyones bills, will they forget they've done it and start again?
I missed how "Apple" relates to computers
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My point exactly. It doesn't, nor does it relate to music - which was the argument the fab four were making. A trademark doesn't protect the individual words - just look at the typical entry at USPTO. They ofter have something such as "NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "SOFTWARE" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN" included in order to pass muster with the office. So the trademark isn't considered to protect "Apple" or "computer". It's only on "Apple Computer". That said, they can enforce against someone creating "Apple Technologies" because the name implies they are in the same industry.
You will also see VERY elaborate attempts to name EVERYTHING the company is protecting. For example, here's one for Microsoft protecting it's name in financing! http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=
It would be scaled - More than 1 or 100 or even 1000 people would need to ding a site to reduce its search rank.
Not positive moderation, negative. Sorry, didn't clarify - the idea is that you can have dings against you if you are a site masses of people (keep in mind the exceptionally large user base) think you are useless.
The only thing millions of spambots could do is ding themselves, not improve their ranking. They are already doing the latter with cross-links to other spam bots... This idea is to counter that one.
these concerns are marginalized when the number of people involved get as high as the user base of google.
If you and a thousand of your friends try to inflate your site's search score when your site is just an advertising monkey, good luck trying to keep it there if the user base can tag it as useless.
When the entire population of the target base can weigh in on the results, I don't think that's censorship, that's putting a user-factor in the sort-order. The autogenerated sites' results aren't eliminated, they are just reduced in efficacy.
Blocking Spam is more censorship than moving gen'ed web sites to the bottom of a search result set.
I've thought about this before for a piece of social software I'm working on - corroboration.
I'm a human, and I wrote the software. I advertise it to a few friends who I know (think) are human and confirm this in the server - these accounts have humans behind them. As the number of users increases the burden on any one to prove they are a human being goes up and they have to find people already confirmed in the system to "nominate" them as legitimate humans on the system.
If a bot manages to make it in, a negative feedback system will cause it to likely get tagged as non-human. If the bot is tagged as such, an message goes out to nearby users to confirm or deny the accusation. If most say it's a bot, away it goes. But more importantly anyone the bot nominated gets tagged as a potential bot as well and also comes underscrutiny until the cluster is removed.
I disagree. This isn't about a lack of fair play. The musical geniuses at Apple Corp chose the name of their company incredibly unwisely. Can someone please tell me what about the name "Apple Corp" indicates that it is in the music industry? Nothing, absolutely nothing - more likely the fruit business. Apple Computer, on the other hand sells computers and software. The fact that their product is used to transmit music, completely irrelevant.
Had they chosen the name The Apple Music Corp, non of this would have been an issue whatsoever. If you establish a trademark, at least have the foresight to precisely identify what the trademark is for so you don't get into unnecessary legal disputes.
They chose a bad name, they tried to sue to keep their heads in the sand about it, and someone brought a shovel. Happens all the time, and this was the right outcome...
Well given that a human would have a hard time deciding if the page was autogen'ed if the text was in their second language, this *is* quite an issue.
So it sounds like Google needs to *shudder* have a user feedback system where humans with logins add moderation metadata to the search results and in return get results based on this moderation en-mass.
I know what your thinking,
It would withstand abuse since a massive amount of human inputed data would keep spambots from trying to exploit the moderation system. What's more, their toolbar could incorporate the control to flag a page as autogen'ed garbage.
Hang on a sec... the head of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention is "vaguely relevant to the subject"... So are general's vaguely relevant to wars that participate in?
I mean, this is one busy man! He seems to have decided all of this at the same time that he's jockeying for Governer of the state!
Would anyone have seen this coming? Wow....
Jerk.
That's it folks, parties over. Sure, we're 60 million users, but apparently there are a few hundred evil bastards in this world, so your government has decided it's our fault that they can interact with you.
So go home and write a letter to the following jackass:
and find somewhere's else to go. Maybe that playground with the dirty old man who's there every wednesday, shuffling cards underneath a blanket in his lap. What? The park's closed too? Bummer...
**************
I'd post this on the front page along with contact information including phone number for the jerks who think they can control the world and the people in it.
I'd reopen when said political meddler's fly to my office to be part of the grand reopening.
After giving this post careful consideration, I have decided to declare you a genius. The analogy works - using windows is a lot like eating glass.
Now advertisements for COTS products are news articles?
While I appreciate the articles on NASA releasing code analysis tools - or pointers to freshmeat - embelishing about something I can't immediately use is boring. Procurement happens at a snails pace for purchased software - gimme something I can throw on the stage and start training dev's to use.
Or at least something in depth that shows statistics on *how much* the schedule slips by when taking this security first approach - that would be news:
"WSJ reports security-first approach to software costs 18% increase in time to deliver"
agreed?
And virtually every car I passed on the way honked at me. Why? Because they thought I was a bum - after all, only bums don't have cars, right?
I bet it had more to do with you walking along the road in the wrong direction that you being a bum.
Gee, that's nice. You're assuming that the people in the US are actually WORKING during all of those hours, among other things.
Given your two speculations, I'd say the individual health-care decision making would have more to do with the amount of time people in the US are sick; however, it's not what actually gets them there in the first time, nor is it in all likelihood the days off from work.
It's Germs. Germs get us sick. And I would hypothesis it has more to do with the transient nature of people in the US and the constant co-mingling of nationalities. Standing in a hospital will make you sick. Standing in an airport will as well.
But if you want a controversial hypothesis, you may be close to home with the work thing - I would venture to guess that children in the US spend more time in daycare and schools (not boarding schools) that those in the US. Anyone with a child in this country knows the best way to stay permanently sick is to repeatedly pick up your kid from day-care after they spent the entire day with the other germ-factories. But this is excaserbated by the fact that there are so many different types of people dropping their kids off in these places.
Nothing to do with time off at all, given how much time off Americans take at work.
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Ahahahahahahah! You're kidding, right?
I know I speak for most of us when I ask you, Sir, what are these "panties" things you speak of?
Here's one idea. Your actions.
Start up a phishing cluster. Collect authentic notices from various banks (fidelity investement statement notice, etc). Fire copies of these notices to "customers" in an html email. Add a graphic touch to a node in your cluster with a uid traceable to that email address. This email should otherwise be harmless and point to the actual institution - this leaves you with great options on what to email - Retirement tutorials, account statement notices, privacy statements.
If the customer has an account there, they are likely to open the email. By opening it, your cluster is pinged and notified that this email worked.
So now you have a more probable positive hit. Send them a customer service request to call and discuss apparent fraudulent transactions on their account.
But...if...they... have.... friends....in the bank.....with your information....
Oh, nevermind.
Sketchy scenario at best - cops are almost never around when a crime is committed. More likely I would be questioned after the fact. What's more, they could not prove it was me so charges wouldn't be filed and the home owners insurance would fix the window.
If you're suggesting that people who do nothing wrong should be treated like criminals whether a crime has been committed or not, well then, I guess that's where we're headed now, isn't it.
If not, I guess I didn't follow you.
I've carried a state ID for over 20 years, and I've never had anyone ask to see my papers.
I've carried one for 25, I have. I was walking from my apartment to 5 Season's Brewery in Atlanta. The apartment was having a Christmas party at the bar.
As I returned home, a cop pulled up in the road, got out and asked me where I was going. I told him, home - my apartment is just up the street. He asked the name of it - I told him, Calibre Springs.
Then he asked me for my driver's license. I told him, I'm not driving. Then he clarified and asked for some sort of identification. I told him my name. He asked for proof. I asked for the reason I was being stopped and questioned - a crime in the area? someone complain about me specifically? Because otherwise, I'm just a guy walking home from a Christmas party. He reiterated - a physical piece of identification. I gave him my license. He continued asking me questions about the party and my residence - nevermind that the latter is printed on the license.
Apparently, living next to housing where immigrants live is enough to warrant questioning. And no, I did not test his tolerance for my refusals. I handed him my papers.