How will this encourage open source development? In fact it's encouraging closed development - you remember that little thing at the top of the page which we call the story? This article is about *alleged* infringement.
Dude, he's a kid in highschool. Easy to encourage him to laugh at himself but this thing is pretty big. How would you *really* react if it was you when you were (I assume) younger? Cut him some slack and eventually he'll see it's not so bad. It is funny, more in the "I would have done that too" way.
He asked whether GNU/KDE people were saying "Tomato/Tomahto", "vase/vahse", or "out/oot" (I'm Canadian:)
Semantics. When I name my system, should I say I'm running "GNU/Linux/Mozilla/Netbeans/Apache"? No one is forgetting the GNU contribution to all this... but do we need constant reminding?
Choosing a really bad name. "Luxuriousity"? How about "Superbious", "Incredulousity", or "RoyalBigHappyTimeity"? Don't be mad at him, rather we should pity him.
Here's how the present situation should be simplified into a story by you:
1. Somone punches you in the nose. They're different than you, maybe they wear some different clothes. Hey, let's use a turban as an example.
2. Grab the next person wearing a turban who comes along. Pretend this is the person from 1 above. When your proof is revealed to be lacking, blame the British, who'll in turn say they got the information from you. Maybe there is proof, but that doesn't matter.
3. Punch the person in the nose really hard. But do it in a flailing manner so you hit lots of other people nearby. This is ok, because at least a few punches will land on the person from 2 above.
4. Get punched in the nose from 1 above. Repeat steps 2 and 3, each time with a different person.
5. Soon the world will love you. They'll see that you promote certain freedoms and you "walk the walk" of your talk every day.
There. See it in a different light? I simplified the situation as much as you did. You're such an idiot.
You didn't read the article! How did you get a score of 3? Picture this: I don't even read the topic of the post, so I can add a comment like "I wonder what this is about?"
I'd be happy if we could constrain the use cases for XML. It seems to have solved everything! How about limiting its use to the problem set it solves - and I'm not talking about machine to machine communication. What a bloated pile of bits SOAP is. Imagine wrapping a remote method call in layer-upon-layer of XML tags?
You're an idiot. Not the least of the reasons is this: it is not cheap to execute someone. In fact due to court costs it costs more than to keep someone in jail for life.
Erm... which part of "Sendo didn't go bankrupt" don't you understand? Otis, if that's your real name, do try to read the article. Microsoft was not free to do whatever they wanted because the necessary precondition to that was not met.
"Do you realize that Microsoft has played a very important role in helping to pave the way for the IT industry to be as large as it is today?"
This is like saying if you go back in time and kill a butterfly you can alter the history you knew. Maybe though, the environment can support a given number of butterflies and some other one will survive.
Have I a point?:) Yeah, someone else other than Microsoft would have driven the industry, or a group of companies together. The timing and technology was right, Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
You just threw away two points, saying they're for other discussions. But your point is, they shouldn't crash the OS and *do*. So they are relevant, IMHO.
You did not answer at all why they lie about this in court. Could it be that if they said "it's modular, so you can replace IE with another browser/set of web libraries" that they might be asked to allow it?
My point was: if it is modular (I believe it is) why are they denying this?
You guys all think you're great software engineers but can't seem to understand that!"
TummyX... read the other posts. People are removing (read this as *not replacing* with something else) IE with 98lite. Are you such a great engineer now that you can make the above statement?
If M$ is worried about components getting replaced with ones they do not want to be associated then why did they make it modular? Why are they lying about this in court?
Maybe because the poster is trying to make money of the sales of the book? I'd do it too, I think it's a good idea. But maybe the moderator didn't. Maybe there should be a "-1: Greedy" moderation option;)
Heh.
"Doesn't cause death in over 90% of people!"?
It's more like saying:
"Doesn't cause death in over 50% of people!".
Bill
How will this encourage open source development? In fact it's encouraging closed development - you remember that little thing at the top of the page which we call the story? This article is about *alleged* infringement.
Bill
Dude, he's a kid in highschool. Easy to encourage him to laugh at himself but this thing is pretty big. How would you *really* react if it was you when you were (I assume) younger? Cut him some slack and eventually he'll see it's not so bad. It is funny, more in the "I would have done that too" way.
Bill
Sorry my Francophone friend, just had to ask this:
"The word has been used for years in Quebec (as in a province of canada...)"
Shouldn't that be:
"The word has been used for years in quebec (as in a province of Canada...)"?
Yeah, I'm trolling but Quebec asks for respect yet resists giving it back.
Bill
He asked whether GNU/KDE people were saying "Tomato/Tomahto", "vase/vahse", or "out/oot" (I'm Canadian:)
Semantics. When I name my system, should I say I'm running "GNU/Linux/Mozilla/Netbeans/Apache"? No one is forgetting the GNU contribution to all this... but do we need constant reminding?
Bill
Choosing a really bad name. "Luxuriousity"? How about "Superbious", "Incredulousity", or "RoyalBigHappyTimeity"? Don't be mad at him, rather we should pity him.
Bill
Can I mod my own post down as redundant?
Bill
"For further information, please contact Ari Schwartz at the Center for Democracy & Technology, 202-637-9800, ari@cdt.org"
Hmmm... just after a section on disguising emails. Guess he'll need a new address soon:)
Bill
Here's how the present situation should be simplified into a story by you:
1. Somone punches you in the nose. They're different than you, maybe they wear some different clothes. Hey, let's use a turban as an example.
2. Grab the next person wearing a turban who comes along. Pretend this is the person from 1 above. When your proof is revealed to be lacking, blame the British, who'll in turn say they got the information from you. Maybe there is proof, but that doesn't matter.
3. Punch the person in the nose really hard. But do it in a flailing manner so you hit lots of other people nearby. This is ok, because at least a few punches will land on the person from 2 above.
4. Get punched in the nose from 1 above. Repeat steps 2 and 3, each time with a different person.
5. Soon the world will love you. They'll see that you promote certain freedoms and you "walk the walk" of your talk every day.
There. See it in a different light? I simplified the situation as much as you did. You're such an idiot.
Bill
You didn't read the article! How did you get a score of 3? Picture this: I don't even read the topic of the post, so I can add a comment like "I wonder what this is about?"
Come one Shamir.
Bill
"constraining the structure of XML documents"
I'd be happy if we could constrain the use cases for XML. It seems to have solved everything! How about limiting its use to the problem set it solves - and I'm not talking about machine to machine communication. What a bloated pile of bits SOAP is. Imagine wrapping a remote method call in layer-upon-layer of XML tags?
Save the world? Heh.
Bill
You're an idiot. Not the least of the reasons is this: it is not cheap to execute someone. In fact due to court costs it costs more than to keep someone in jail for life.
Troll on you shining diamond.
Bill
Erm... which part of "Sendo didn't go bankrupt" don't you understand? Otis, if that's your real name, do try to read the article. Microsoft was not free to do whatever they wanted because the necessary precondition to that was not met.
Bill
"I have recently completed a book for Addison-Wesley. Well, almost completed..."
You could have edited your own post, removing the necessity of having to correct yourself in the second sentence.
Now, I'll sit back and wait for edits of my post;) Sorry, in a funny mood.
Bill
You might have read the note on Mr. Peren's web-site saying it was a PH idea to name the series after him.
Hmmm... how did you get modded up? By moderators who also hadn't read the note:)
Bill
...from the episode "Mirror Mirror".
Of course I like Shatner, and I totally respect his choice. He's great!
The Good MacAndrew
"Do you realize that Microsoft has played a very important role in helping to pave the way for the IT industry to be as large as it is today?"
This is like saying if you go back in time and kill a butterfly you can alter the history you knew. Maybe though, the environment can support a given number of butterflies and some other one will survive.
Have I a point?:) Yeah, someone else other than Microsoft would have driven the industry, or a group of companies together. The timing and technology was right, Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
Bill
He was joking. By the way, "Reloded" is actually spelled "Reloaded".
Who's the dork now?
Bill
"I use publicly funded roads on a regular basis. Should this make my cargo public property?"
No, but should you be able to set up a toll booth on a portion of that publicly funded road? That's the point here you know.
Bill
You just threw away two points, saying they're for other discussions. But your point is, they shouldn't crash the OS and *do*. So they are relevant, IMHO.
Bill
You did not answer at all why they lie about this in court. Could it be that if they said "it's modular, so you can replace IE with another browser/set of web libraries" that they might be asked to allow it?
My point was: if it is modular (I believe it is) why are they denying this?
Bill
You guys all think you're great software engineers but can't seem to understand that!"
TummyX... read the other posts. People are removing (read this as *not replacing* with something else) IE with 98lite. Are you such a great engineer now that you can make the above statement?
If M$ is worried about components getting replaced with ones they do not want to be associated then why did they make it modular? Why are they lying about this in court?
Bill
Maybe because the poster is trying to make money of the sales of the book? I'd do it too, I think it's a good idea. But maybe the moderator didn't. Maybe there should be a "-1: Greedy" moderation option;)
Bill
But I don't see your point. Verisign has some responsibility here don't they? They own the company, right?
Will they do anything about this? If not, then they are endorsing it by their silence.
Bill
Yeah, most times I have no problem leaving memory allocation up to the JVM.
Don't know why it didn't work out for you, perhaps the application wasn't best suited for Java.
Bill