Modern cars *all* have rev limiters. Yes, it makes an unusual sound. No, it won't hurt anything. Yes, it's always better to say "fuck the engine" when weighing options to stop a runaway car. And then simply focus on stopping.
And then, you know: Stop.
Once stopped you've got all the time you need to figure out how to halt the engine.
FFS, even old cars tend to be self-limiting once the valves start to float....
13? Meh. My car is 18 years old and runs like a champion in all weather.
The difference between my old car and your old car is not that my car is better than yours. Instead, the difference is that I recognize that it's better to fix it, than to either live with it or spend even more money buying something comparable-but-not-broken.
I just call these little repair sessions "car payments" and keep on driving. It's cheap.
(I keep forgetting the nerds need to pick apparently-random figures, but not necessarily apply any sense of reality to any comparison applied thereof.)
That 1% is the reason my friend called me silly for buying a convertible. Sure, it's a fun ride for 99% of the time but won't be any good when we have to move a piece of furniture. Simple solution: get 2 cars. One for everyday use, one for the 1% trips.
For those 1% of trips, I just rent something from U-Haul, Home Depot, or Enterprise, or have the furniture/lumber/whatever delivered. It's already far more convenient for me to use conventional rentals than to buy, insure, license, and maintain a vehicle that I only ever intend to use 1% of the time. And I can pick the type of vehicle that would be best for the job: Whether I need a van or a trailer, a large box truck or a glorified church bus, it's easy and comparatively cheap to rent what I need when I need it.
And in the future, perhaps even the near future, that second car won't be necessary anymore, because we will have convenient car rental: the kind where you book a car for the next day,
I don't need the vehicle to deliver itself: Even if I'm by myself, leaving my car at the rental place isn't a problem (I can't drive both of them at the same time anyway).
I can tell you with pretty good certainty exactly how much further my car can go based on the gas guage. Clearly there isn't that same capability with this car and the battery.
Good! You know how to estimate. Given enough time to get used to things, I'll bet you can estimate the range of a Tesla equally well.
This is similar to the issue with ICE (internal combustion engine) where if it is really hot outside and you run the AC really high, you will drain the battery more.
European/Mexican Coke tastes better than U.S. Coke, for example, but they're still fairly close. Mt. Dew Throwback tastes more different.
Mexi-coke is just Coca-Cola that has never been fucked with: Notice that it does not say "Coke Classic" as every bottle of stateside-produced Coke does. Cane sugar is very cheap almost everywhere but in the US, so they've never had to do anything different.
Mt. Dew Throwback is a different animal entirely, the most obvious difference being that it does not contain orange juice whereas "regular" Mountain Dew does.
I'm fortunate to be able to visit a little Mexican shop downtown that, in addition to fresh tamales, has real Pepsi imported from south of the border. It comes in 16-ounce returnable bottles, and is exactly as I remember it being ~25 years ago.
It's not so hard to get from A to B in any public show: The trick is just to act like you belong there, just like everyone else who also belongs there. Blend in.
My own favorite was at a show at the Detroit State Theater. We had assigned seats in the balcony, but the sound really was very bad up there. So we left, wandered, and came up to the entrance for the general-admittance floor area.
There were two security guards looking at tickets before people were allowed into this space, with a small line formed before each of them. We walked right between them as if we owned the venue ourselves, and didn't encounter any trouble. (The sound at front, stage-left was excellent. Kudos to the boardmonkey, and meh to whoever it was that specified the line arrays for that show.)
And for other intermittently-crowded places, carrying a Motorola 2-way portable radio helps. You can direct traffic and behave authoritatively in almost any capacity, even with long hair, regular clothes, and a beard, as long as you have a radio and the gumption to make it look like you belong there. Do that for a little bit, and nobody around will think twice when you slip in through a side door. And after that, just blend in differently: At that level, people aren't paying much attention to security.
(And no, it doesn't matter if the radio works or can talk to anyone.)
So: Social engineering one's way into the Superbowl? Nice feat, but not very surprising.
That makes sense to anybody and everybody. "Protection against what?" "Short circuit." "Oh".
These are the same people who have a light fixture that is intermittent, and declare that it is caused by a "short," when in reality they're almost certainly experiencing what would more appropriately described as a "long."
You're really not helping educate anyone at all. Please stop.
Yes I am strange, and your UID is strange: It has too many digits. So what?
The "protection relay" is all that has been discussed in any of TFAs that I've seen, without any mention of "breaker". And then someone generalizes and says that it's a "circuit breaker," before some EEs come along and say that the "protection relay" is not a circuit breaker, when the fact is that it does just that: It does not have to be in series with the load in order to control that load*.
And then I show up in the middle of all of it and try to simplify terms. And then you tell me how wrong I am for using simple and established English terminology, even though in the broadest of terms such a system would obviously be considered a "circuit breaker."
*Simple, bone-headed electronics: Need to turn things on and off? Use a transistor. Need to turn bigger things on and off? Use that transistor to drive a relay. Need to turn even bigger things on and off? Use a contactor* driven by that relay. Bigger things? Switchgear. Need a fancy way to turn big things off when something goes wrong? Use a "protection relay" in place of or in addition to your usual relay.
Most folks would consider that a pedantic way to describe a simple system, even if they don't even know the word "pedantic" but merely understand the concept, because such details aren't really all that important to the general populace. And anyone who understands English could properly describe the system as "an electronic switch."
**: The delineation between "relay" and "contactor" is also pretty vague, such that the terms can be used interchangeably across a fairly wide range of applications.
A circuit breaker never detects *anything*. Ever. It can't.
Mine do. They're in the basement, in the panel. Not on a trolley, or on a cart, or in their own building. But they do. Some of them detect overcurrent, some of them also detect ground faults, and some of them additionally detect arc faults. It's not an abnormal panel.
I know you don't care but swallow your pride and learn something.
But you're not trying to teach. You're trying to prove that my terms are wrong. And they're not incorrect terms to begin with.
Which, really, is the whole point that I've been trying to make. Or did you miss that part?
Oh, and for pedantry: I can also say that communication failed because of a PIC card error in the CPP that caused the CIP tray to lock, but nobody cares. It might be the truth, but it's pedantic: If folks try to understand, their eyes glaze over. And almost everyone else just skips that part.
It is much simpler to generalize and say "the radio system failed." Even if is so ambiguous as to alarm every autistic nit on this side of the Mississippi who understands these terms, this would still a correct (though generalized) statement.
It is pedantry. And I don't care who you've met, or what the facilities look like (didn't I just say that?).
You're still wrapped up in pedantic details. Stop doing that and zoom out a bit.
Power comes into a collection of gear from the grid (whether that be a local substation or a very long length of wire: I DON'T CARE!). Power comes out, powers facility (REALLY, it's that simple).
In between those two circuits is a circuit breaker, that upon detecting an abnormal condition, breaks the circuit.
Which is what we saw during the superbowl: Stuff turned off because the circuit was broken because the circuit breaker detected something awry and did what it was designed to do.
Don't worry. My day job is about as non-technical and unimportant as they come -- mostly all I do is wireless communication systems for emergency dispatch centers.
So when you call 911 and an ambulance never shows up, you can refer back to this thread and pat yourself on the back for having foretold the eventuality.
Meanwhile, I maintain that arguing about the exact definitions of a "circuit breaker" or "protection relay" is unnecessary pedantry because any thing or collection of things capable of autonomously breaking a circuit in response to abnormal conditions can be (rightly!) termed as a "circuit breaker."
This thing, or collection of things, might be in a panel. It might be on a trolley or cart. It might be a collection of gear filling entire room, or with its own isolated building, or be contained within two or more buildings. It could stretch across continents. I don't really care: The collection of stuff acts as a circuit breaker, and therefore it is a circuit breaker.
Nobody outside of EE fields cares about what parts this circuit breaker might consist of, or that there might be a portable apparatus with an overlapping name, or that the term is too generalized to satisfy every pedant in the world.
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Modern cars *all* have rev limiters. Yes, it makes an unusual sound. No, it won't hurt anything. Yes, it's always better to say "fuck the engine" when weighing options to stop a runaway car. And then simply focus on stopping.
And then, you know: Stop.
Once stopped you've got all the time you need to figure out how to halt the engine.
FFS, even old cars tend to be self-limiting once the valves start to float....
13? Meh. My car is 18 years old and runs like a champion in all weather.
The difference between my old car and your old car is not that my car is better than yours. Instead, the difference is that I recognize that it's better to fix it, than to either live with it or spend even more money buying something comparable-but-not-broken.
I just call these little repair sessions "car payments" and keep on driving. It's cheap.
If only there were a way for a large group of people to lower a site's pagerank.
(I keep forgetting the nerds need to pick apparently-random figures, but not necessarily apply any sense of reality to any comparison applied thereof.)
$87,400 base, according to your link. But then there's options (also according to your link):
Fancy paint (which TFA alludes to it having): $1,500.
Panoramic glass roof: $1,500.
21" wheels: $3,500.
"Tech package": $3,750.
7.1 Dolby: $950.
Rear-facing seats: $1,500.
Paint armor: $950.
Dual chargers: $1,200.
== $102,250.
Drop the dual chargers, or any other ~$1,000 option, and $101,000 becomes a perfectly presentable round figure for what a car like this might cost.
Please tell me more about this car that warms the passenger compartment by just blowing heat off of the radiator.
For those 1% of trips, I just rent something from U-Haul, Home Depot, or Enterprise, or have the furniture/lumber/whatever delivered. It's already far more convenient for me to use conventional rentals than to buy, insure, license, and maintain a vehicle that I only ever intend to use 1% of the time. And I can pick the type of vehicle that would be best for the job: Whether I need a van or a trailer, a large box truck or a glorified church bus, it's easy and comparatively cheap to rent what I need when I need it.
I don't need the vehicle to deliver itself: Even if I'm by myself, leaving my car at the rental place isn't a problem (I can't drive both of them at the same time anyway).
Good! You know how to estimate. Given enough time to get used to things, I'll bet you can estimate the range of a Tesla equally well.
Can you tell me more about how this works?
Can you tell me more about this problem?
Who said anything about something being $5 per month?
Mexi-coke is just Coca-Cola that has never been fucked with: Notice that it does not say "Coke Classic" as every bottle of stateside-produced Coke does. Cane sugar is very cheap almost everywhere but in the US, so they've never had to do anything different.
Mt. Dew Throwback is a different animal entirely, the most obvious difference being that it does not contain orange juice whereas "regular" Mountain Dew does.
I'm fortunate to be able to visit a little Mexican shop downtown that, in addition to fresh tamales, has real Pepsi imported from south of the border. It comes in 16-ounce returnable bottles, and is exactly as I remember it being ~25 years ago.
As a reminder of the present.
What was it that I said about scale? I can't be bothered to look; perhaps you remember.
It's not so hard to get from A to B in any public show: The trick is just to act like you belong there, just like everyone else who also belongs there. Blend in.
My own favorite was at a show at the Detroit State Theater. We had assigned seats in the balcony, but the sound really was very bad up there. So we left, wandered, and came up to the entrance for the general-admittance floor area.
There were two security guards looking at tickets before people were allowed into this space, with a small line formed before each of them. We walked right between them as if we owned the venue ourselves, and didn't encounter any trouble. (The sound at front, stage-left was excellent. Kudos to the boardmonkey, and meh to whoever it was that specified the line arrays for that show.)
And for other intermittently-crowded places, carrying a Motorola 2-way portable radio helps. You can direct traffic and behave authoritatively in almost any capacity, even with long hair, regular clothes, and a beard, as long as you have a radio and the gumption to make it look like you belong there. Do that for a little bit, and nobody around will think twice when you slip in through a side door. And after that, just blend in differently: At that level, people aren't paying much attention to security.
(And no, it doesn't matter if the radio works or can talk to anyone.)
So: Social engineering one's way into the Superbowl? Nice feat, but not very surprising.
Whatever you say.
Your UID is low?
You're also a comedian, right?
These are the same people who have a light fixture that is intermittent, and declare that it is caused by a "short," when in reality they're almost certainly experiencing what would more appropriately described as a "long."
You're really not helping educate anyone at all. Please stop.
Yes I am strange, and your UID is strange: It has too many digits. So what?
The "protection relay" is all that has been discussed in any of TFAs that I've seen, without any mention of "breaker". And then someone generalizes and says that it's a "circuit breaker," before some EEs come along and say that the "protection relay" is not a circuit breaker, when the fact is that it does just that: It does not have to be in series with the load in order to control that load*.
And then I show up in the middle of all of it and try to simplify terms. And then you tell me how wrong I am for using simple and established English terminology, even though in the broadest of terms such a system would obviously be considered a "circuit breaker."
*Simple, bone-headed electronics: Need to turn things on and off? Use a transistor. Need to turn bigger things on and off? Use that transistor to drive a relay. Need to turn even bigger things on and off? Use a contactor* driven by that relay. Bigger things? Switchgear. Need a fancy way to turn big things off when something goes wrong? Use a "protection relay" in place of or in addition to your usual relay.
Most folks would consider that a pedantic way to describe a simple system, even if they don't even know the word "pedantic" but merely understand the concept, because such details aren't really all that important to the general populace. And anyone who understands English could properly describe the system as "an electronic switch."
**: The delineation between "relay" and "contactor" is also pretty vague, such that the terms can be used interchangeably across a fairly wide range of applications.
Good luck flying your car to work.
Mine do. They're in the basement, in the panel. Not on a trolley, or on a cart, or in their own building. But they do. Some of them detect overcurrent, some of them also detect ground faults, and some of them additionally detect arc faults. It's not an abnormal panel.
But you're not trying to teach. You're trying to prove that my terms are wrong. And they're not incorrect terms to begin with.
Which, really, is the whole point that I've been trying to make. Or did you miss that part?
Oh, and for pedantry: I can also say that communication failed because of a PIC card error in the CPP that caused the CIP tray to lock, but nobody cares. It might be the truth, but it's pedantic: If folks try to understand, their eyes glaze over. And almost everyone else just skips that part.
It is much simpler to generalize and say "the radio system failed." Even if is so ambiguous as to alarm every autistic nit on this side of the Mississippi who understands these terms, this would still a correct (though generalized) statement.
It is pedantry. And I don't care who you've met, or what the facilities look like (didn't I just say that?).
You're still wrapped up in pedantic details. Stop doing that and zoom out a bit.
Power comes into a collection of gear from the grid (whether that be a local substation or a very long length of wire: I DON'T CARE!). Power comes out, powers facility (REALLY, it's that simple).
In between those two circuits is a circuit breaker, that upon detecting an abnormal condition, breaks the circuit.
Which is what we saw during the superbowl: Stuff turned off because the circuit was broken because the circuit breaker detected something awry and did what it was designed to do.
Seriously. These aren't very big words.
Don't worry. My day job is about as non-technical and unimportant as they come -- mostly all I do is wireless communication systems for emergency dispatch centers.
So when you call 911 and an ambulance never shows up, you can refer back to this thread and pat yourself on the back for having foretold the eventuality.
Meanwhile, I maintain that arguing about the exact definitions of a "circuit breaker" or "protection relay" is unnecessary pedantry because any thing or collection of things capable of autonomously breaking a circuit in response to abnormal conditions can be (rightly!) termed as a "circuit breaker."
This thing, or collection of things, might be in a panel. It might be on a trolley or cart. It might be a collection of gear filling entire room, or with its own isolated building, or be contained within two or more buildings. It could stretch across continents. I don't really care: The collection of stuff acts as a circuit breaker, and therefore it is a circuit breaker.
Nobody outside of EE fields cares about what parts this circuit breaker might consist of, or that there might be a portable apparatus with an overlapping name, or that the term is too generalized to satisfy every pedant in the world.
My whole argument is against unnecessary pedantry.
You're supporting it very well.
"Some places" isn't the US. TFA is about the US.
And being in the US, I do see a few diesel cars around every now and then. I do not see them "often."