One generation? I doubt it. It's possible, but because they just recently introduced the GF3 a couple of weeks ago, and it will be coming to market in a few weeks, that means NVIDIA will have released something akin to the GF4 in less than 6 months?
I think it's a safer bet to say that the Xbox will use an enhanced or tailored version of the GF3.
XBox specs say the NVIDIA chip will run at 250MHz, where the GF3 currently runs at 200MHz; however, process improvements may allow for the GF3 ultra, to be released in 6 months, to run at 250, 300, or higher speeds.
Yeah, I can see the appeal in terms of price, but I don't see why people think this is going to be such an awesome 'gaming' machine, when it really isn't so extraordinary...
And as per the processor, I know they are of different breeds... but still, a 733MHz G4 vs a 733MHz PIII isn't exactly unfair, since they both exhibit the same clock!
Actually, in comparison, the Edge is 0.1oz lighter than the m500 or m505, 0.06in thinner, but 0.2in taller, with the same memory and screen size (lacking only color)
Sorry for the horridly constructed sentence structure. Edge doesn't get Palm OS 4.0, but compensates with a non-sdmi expansion slot and hitting the same price point.
Anyway, I think you're right, people will pay some more for style and flair. Look at the Titanium Powerbook!
So I don't get why people are so excited about the Xbox, technologically; I guess before graduating a CS/CE major, I didn't know any better... is that all that's happening now? Compare, say, a PowerMac tower:
Similar NVidia card
DVDR/DVD/CDRW (take your pick)
Ethernet
Hard drive
It also has a faster processor (G4 at 733MHz) as well as gigabit ethernet(I think)
I guess it's going to be 8x more expensive, but the point is those hardware junkies could get a similar machine now... while the BSD people, well, can wait for their XBox, I guess.
Is it the prospect of a Microsoft driven gaming economy? Or the high quality of Microsoft software? What?
There is a distinct separation between something being wrong, being enforceable, and something you didn't mention, something illegal.
To some minds, banning DeCSS is ridiculous. It isn't illegal (reverse engineering software, such as the Xing player) to write, nor is it illegal to use (fair use of one's own DVDs!)
You're not talking so much about CS as you are about work experience and job suitability after graduation.
There are multiple parts to the problem, among them:
Analytic thought
Process and practicies
Theory and understanding
Ability
There are probably a handful more categories I've left out.
But to have excellence in one without being capable in all the others won't help you when you graduate. What you're advocating helps to teach process and practices, and perhaps ability, without mentioning analytic thought or theory. Some people naturally have skill or talent in analytic thought. Most don't. Most people have no theory until taught it; some are self taught.
But you need all four, at the minimum, which means good coursework (language and platform is irrelevant!) to teach analytic thought, theory, and process. An excellent course taught with LISP can cover all three, despite being an unpopular development language. Once you figure out theory, thought, and process, it should be a breeze to pick up the flavor of the year, be it Java, C, or whatever.
An mp3-cd player is still, what, 2x the size of a md player?
I haven't seen a miniCDr mp3 player, but that may be the same size of an md player.
I was comparing size and portability when I said 64mb units. Those things are overpriced and underpowered, compared to a mdplayer or even one of your CD-mp3 devices
As per media type, I was comparing size to size. A minidisk is bigger than any flash device, but it's also much smaller than a CD. Are there any mp3 miniCD devices? How about the price of miniCD-Rs? Those are only $45 for 50, and have 180mb storage. That's about 100 minutes of mp3 at a decent quality rate, so it beats the minidisc, but I haven't seen any players that fit that size.
You're right, I didn't clearly distinguish between atrac and atrac3; my own MD-MT20 from Sharp touts itself as a 6th generation ATRAC, but that's more to do with their implementation of ATRAC(1) and nothing to do with ATRAC3, which is specifically targetted for the MemoryStick devices, I think. I'm not sure, but I don't think ATRAC3 is availabe on minidisc, though sony's own page on ATRAC3 mentions easy transform from ATRAC3 to ATRAC here
ATRAC is making decent inroads into the US. It has the advantage of being sylish, small, and cheap.
74min of MD is $2.50
64mb of MP3 is $90-$120
I meant ATRAC built into MD format. Dunno about software and MemorySticks, only as an audio disc format.
You're right that MD support is so far only in audio components and md players. I've been looking for a md boombox, myself, and have only seen 3, and no stores carry them. You can optically copy ATRAC files to/from MD, and there is also 2x support on some deck components. I don't know about perfect cloning, however, but I suspect that's limited due to Sony/RIAA/copyright concerns. Too bad.
I don't like MS myself, but the MD format is nice because it's cheap. It's only comparable in the PC world is the HipZip from Iomega. It's also cheaper to just get a standalone MD player for $90-$130 and $3 discs than a PDA+MP3+CF, along with a good 10 hourplayback life.
As per battery life, it supposedly gets 11hours, more than the Handspring Prism...
The Handspring Visor can fairly trivially support CF (dunno about CF+)
There are sites that sell or document how to construct a Handspring module that is essentially a passive CF to PCMCIA adaptor with 2 or 3 wires changed to allow a Visor to see a CF card.
And there aren't any 90mb IBM microdrives. They come in 340mb, 5xxsomething and 1gb sizes.
I dunno, I think there must be some market if Windows CE machines are selling, right? The Clie seems to fit that niche, with a 320x320 screen, multimedia capabilities, etc.
It's an entertainment device, like a minidisc player. ATRAC support.
It's a PDA, like a palm pilot!
It's got a high resolution screen and a faster CPU, so it can play Gameboy games!
You can finally do maps decently on it, with double the resolution and high color.
Is it doing too many things at once? I dunno. But it's pretty feature complete against Windows CE machines, and really doesn't compete against other Palm devices yet.
It may well defeat the intent and purpose of the PalmVx, Visor Platinum, etc, or the newer M105, but not the purpose of Palm per se.
The PalmOS today is supposed to be more powerful and flexible to keep up with advancing technology just like the new Sony. If this were unleased 2 years ago, it would have been stupid, but in today's tech, it would seem to make sense.
What I wonder is why the thing doesn't have a built in 320x320 camera!
This is probably one of the few things saving Apple right now; that it is sooo incredibly easy to connect to the net with an Apple PC, and that just because it's clocked half of a competing IBM PC, it actually isn't any slower because it's the net that's slowing you down.
On the other hand, Apple can't corner the hardcore gamer's market because they are clocked at half an Athlon or Intel CPU.
The really ironic part is that the XBox will be using a variation of the GeForce3 on a Celeron-like processor, at CPU speeds no faster than, say, a G4 tower with a GeForce3 today... so it *still* may be possible that Apple isn't nearly as bad off as everything thinks. Then there's the other box, the GameCube... which uses a 403MHz G3 with some fancy ArtX/ATI chipset... which will still probably be comparable to the GeForce3 and a 600MHz G4.
All that really is waiting is the games, not the hardware.
Is it really true, or just an urban legend, that it's those $1k junkers commiting the top 70% of the pollution right now?
On the other hand, I guess it's your 'right' to say that the pollution of a $1k junker is worth $23k in value, since that's what you're going to 'buy' with the money you save on the junker...
I know it's not the purist's car, being a hybrid and all, but on the other hand, an Electric car's fuel is either smelly coal or dirty plutonium/uranium, for the most part.
Acceleration: Dunno, but it's probably reasonable ^^
Top speed: It'll do at least freeway speeds!
Good looking: Yes! It looks like a streamlined old school Honda Civic!
If the projects were very dissimilar, yet they were still able to graft code from project A to project B, then there may be a pretty good understanding of the code itself in order to affect a transformation without changing correctness!
Makes me want to sink my movie buying dollars back into VHS.
I mean, that's where all this Macrovision headache started in the first place; in your VCR! It just migrated into the DVD player from the VCR, and at least some brands of DVD have the option to turn off the Macrovision.
I think the inkjet stuff may be more useful in terms of producing printed PCBs and wiring with simple logic, leaving most of the power and computation to standard ICs and such.
I spend time and effort to develop a car Ogg player and GPS receiver.
I am part of a group of people who have similar interests, so we all share our variations on the designs, LCD or display implementations, voice activated, IR, bluetooth, etc.
Over a period of months or years, we all have in car dash Ogg players, GPS recievers with voice activation and other random stuff.
Other people take this and adapt it to Visor handspring modules
They add power saving and cycling functions, or something. Or they make it smaller.
Feedback occurs, and the indash unit becomes smaller. We get enough space to add more features.
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One generation? I doubt it. It's possible, but because they just recently introduced the GF3 a couple of weeks ago, and it will be coming to market in a few weeks, that means NVIDIA will have released something akin to the GF4 in less than 6 months?
I think it's a safer bet to say that the Xbox will use an enhanced or tailored version of the GF3.
XBox specs say the NVIDIA chip will run at 250MHz, where the GF3 currently runs at 200MHz; however, process improvements may allow for the GF3 ultra, to be released in 6 months, to run at 250, 300, or higher speeds.
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Yeah, I can see the appeal in terms of price, but I don't see why people think this is going to be such an awesome 'gaming' machine, when it really isn't so extraordinary...
And as per the processor, I know they are of different breeds... but still, a 733MHz G4 vs a 733MHz PIII isn't exactly unfair, since they both exhibit the same clock!
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Actually, in comparison, the Edge is 0.1oz lighter than the m500 or m505, 0.06in thinner, but 0.2in taller, with the same memory and screen size (lacking only color)
Sorry for the horridly constructed sentence structure. Edge doesn't get Palm OS 4.0, but compensates with a non-sdmi expansion slot and hitting the same price point.
Anyway, I think you're right, people will pay some more for style and flair. Look at the Titanium Powerbook!
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Look cool...
Like a Titanium Powerbook?
Sorry, that's beside the issue I wanted to reply to =)
As per horrid gaming boxes; they have a faster processor, more memory, and higher resolution than a comparable (though cheaper) Gameboy Color.
Those things have been successful for 11 years now, so I don't think it's fair to say that a Visor or Palm makes a 'horrid' game box.
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So I don't get why people are so excited about the Xbox, technologically; I guess before graduating a CS/CE major, I didn't know any better... is that all that's happening now? Compare, say, a PowerMac tower:
Similar NVidia card
DVDR/DVD/CDRW (take your pick)
Ethernet
Hard drive
It also has a faster processor (G4 at 733MHz) as well as gigabit ethernet(I think)
I guess it's going to be 8x more expensive, but the point is those hardware junkies could get a similar machine now... while the BSD people, well, can wait for their XBox, I guess.
Is it the prospect of a Microsoft driven gaming economy? Or the high quality of Microsoft software? What?
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There is a distinct separation between something being wrong, being enforceable, and something you didn't mention, something illegal.
To some minds, banning DeCSS is ridiculous. It isn't illegal (reverse engineering software, such as the Xing player) to write, nor is it illegal to use (fair use of one's own DVDs!)
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You're not talking so much about CS as you are about work experience and job suitability after graduation.
There are multiple parts to the problem, among them:
Analytic thought
Process and practicies
Theory and understanding
Ability
There are probably a handful more categories I've left out.
But to have excellence in one without being capable in all the others won't help you when you graduate. What you're advocating helps to teach process and practices, and perhaps ability, without mentioning analytic thought or theory. Some people naturally have skill or talent in analytic thought. Most don't. Most people have no theory until taught it; some are self taught.
But you need all four, at the minimum, which means good coursework (language and platform is irrelevant!) to teach analytic thought, theory, and process. An excellent course taught with LISP can cover all three, despite being an unpopular development language. Once you figure out theory, thought, and process, it should be a breeze to pick up the flavor of the year, be it Java, C, or whatever.
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An mp3-cd player is still, what, 2x the size of a md player?
I haven't seen a miniCDr mp3 player, but that may be the same size of an md player.
I was comparing size and portability when I said 64mb units. Those things are overpriced and underpowered, compared to a mdplayer or even one of your CD-mp3 devices
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As per media type, I was comparing size to size. A minidisk is bigger than any flash device, but it's also much smaller than a CD. Are there any mp3 miniCD devices? How about the price of miniCD-Rs? Those are only $45 for 50, and have 180mb storage. That's about 100 minutes of mp3 at a decent quality rate, so it beats the minidisc, but I haven't seen any players that fit that size.
You're right, I didn't clearly distinguish between atrac and atrac3; my own MD-MT20 from Sharp touts itself as a 6th generation ATRAC, but that's more to do with their implementation of ATRAC(1) and nothing to do with ATRAC3, which is specifically targetted for the MemoryStick devices, I think. I'm not sure, but I don't think ATRAC3 is availabe on minidisc, though sony's own page on ATRAC3 mentions easy transform from ATRAC3 to ATRAC here
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ATRAC is making decent inroads into the US. It has the advantage of being sylish, small, and cheap.
74min of MD is $2.50
64mb of MP3 is $90-$120
I meant ATRAC built into MD format. Dunno about software and MemorySticks, only as an audio disc format.
You're right that MD support is so far only in audio components and md players. I've been looking for a md boombox, myself, and have only seen 3, and no stores carry them. You can optically copy ATRAC files to/from MD, and there is also 2x support on some deck components. I don't know about perfect cloning, however, but I suspect that's limited due to Sony/RIAA/copyright concerns. Too bad.
I don't like MS myself, but the MD format is nice because it's cheap. It's only comparable in the PC world is the HipZip from Iomega. It's also cheaper to just get a standalone MD player for $90-$130 and $3 discs than a PDA+MP3+CF, along with a good 10 hourplayback life.
As per battery life, it supposedly gets 11hours, more than the Handspring Prism...
But as per your PalmV + MP3CD, that's a good bet.
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http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro /overvw.htm
They used to market 170mb, but even IBM's webpage only mentions 340, 512, and 1gb.
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The Handspring Visor can fairly trivially support CF (dunno about CF+)
There are sites that sell or document how to construct a Handspring module that is essentially a passive CF to PCMCIA adaptor with 2 or 3 wires changed to allow a Visor to see a CF card.
And there aren't any 90mb IBM microdrives. They come in 340mb, 5xxsomething and 1gb sizes.
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I dunno, I think there must be some market if Windows CE machines are selling, right? The Clie seems to fit that niche, with a 320x320 screen, multimedia capabilities, etc.
It's an entertainment device, like a minidisc player. ATRAC support.
It's a PDA, like a palm pilot!
It's got a high resolution screen and a faster CPU, so it can play Gameboy games!
You can finally do maps decently on it, with double the resolution and high color.
Is it doing too many things at once? I dunno. But it's pretty feature complete against Windows CE machines, and really doesn't compete against other Palm devices yet.
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It may well defeat the intent and purpose of the PalmVx, Visor Platinum, etc, or the newer M105, but not the purpose of Palm per se.
The PalmOS today is supposed to be more powerful and flexible to keep up with advancing technology just like the new Sony. If this were unleased 2 years ago, it would have been stupid, but in today's tech, it would seem to make sense.
What I wonder is why the thing doesn't have a built in 320x320 camera!
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This is probably one of the few things saving Apple right now; that it is sooo incredibly easy to connect to the net with an Apple PC, and that just because it's clocked half of a competing IBM PC, it actually isn't any slower because it's the net that's slowing you down.
On the other hand, Apple can't corner the hardcore gamer's market because they are clocked at half an Athlon or Intel CPU.
The really ironic part is that the XBox will be using a variation of the GeForce3 on a Celeron-like processor, at CPU speeds no faster than, say, a G4 tower with a GeForce3 today... so it *still* may be possible that Apple isn't nearly as bad off as everything thinks. Then there's the other box, the GameCube... which uses a 403MHz G3 with some fancy ArtX/ATI chipset... which will still probably be comparable to the GeForce3 and a 600MHz G4.
All that really is waiting is the games, not the hardware.
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Yeah, nice thought.
Is it really true, or just an urban legend, that it's those $1k junkers commiting the top 70% of the pollution right now?
On the other hand, I guess it's your 'right' to say that the pollution of a $1k junker is worth $23k in value, since that's what you're going to 'buy' with the money you save on the junker...
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My bad. Conversion power error when going from English to Metric units.
10k = 6m
1000k = 600m
That still fits Ron's def of reasonable, at least.
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I know it's not the purist's car, being a hybrid and all, but on the other hand, an Electric car's fuel is either smelly coal or dirty plutonium/uranium, for the most part.
Acceleration: Dunno, but it's probably reasonable ^^
Top speed: It'll do at least freeway speeds!
Good looking: Yes! It looks like a streamlined old school Honda Civic!
Reasonable range: Yes! 10.6 gallons, 60mpg == 600 m, ~100,000km range!)
Recharge time: Braking regenerative charging, as well as fuel assisted...
Reasonable price tag: Yes! $24k
Your 'only' tradeoff is that there is a gas tank, and that you get the 'burden' of having to visit the pump every 100,000km...
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If the projects were very dissimilar, yet they were still able to graft code from project A to project B, then there may be a pretty good understanding of the code itself in order to affect a transformation without changing correctness!
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Where the motto is: "Unfortunately, half of you are below average, for the first time in your life!"
Collaboration is encouraged, for the most part!
Of course, I never saw the dark seamy side of student life. What dark seamy side? I don't know, I never saw it!
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First, the Xbox, a consumer console.
The the Xboy, the portable game machine.
The the Xboz, the arcade cart!
Or something like that.
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Is that despite being profitable, this software isn't closely aligned with O'Rielly's goals to be worth maintaining.
Imagine if O'Rielly owned a nation wide retail pizza chain that made them money?
As much as it was fun or profitable, it really is a distraction to his other goals. A man can only handle so many things at once!
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Makes me want to sink my movie buying dollars back into VHS.
I mean, that's where all this Macrovision headache started in the first place; in your VCR! It just migrated into the DVD player from the VCR, and at least some brands of DVD have the option to turn off the Macrovision.
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I think the inkjet stuff may be more useful in terms of producing printed PCBs and wiring with simple logic, leaving most of the power and computation to standard ICs and such.
So this kind of stuff wouldn't be useless either.
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Open source, man!
I spend time and effort to develop a car Ogg player and GPS receiver.
I am part of a group of people who have similar interests, so we all share our variations on the designs, LCD or display implementations, voice activated, IR, bluetooth, etc.
Over a period of months or years, we all have in car dash Ogg players, GPS recievers with voice activation and other random stuff.
Other people take this and adapt it to Visor handspring modules
They add power saving and cycling functions, or something. Or they make it smaller.
Feedback occurs, and the indash unit becomes smaller. We get enough space to add more features.
Back and forth.
Isn't this how the Open Source model works?
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