Thanks! that's exactly what i would expect froma troll. too bad tis what i actually think, and have said many times (on my website, in classes, in papers. ..)
i'll remember your principled stand in the name of privacy the next time i need to do statistical research. how can you expect social scientists to do any credible research if you deny them information? census data is incredibly valuable to a wide range of academic studies.
conversely, i do agree that data collected by the government should not be sold for any type of market research (what an oxymoron) or commercial use.
The Canadian census, performed by Stats Canada, uses aggregated data instead of the measures employed by the American census bureau. this means that values like blishen scores (which measure the prestige of an occupation) are presented as ranges rather than singular values in the final presentation of the data. Since some blishen scores correspond to only one occupation, like that of supreme court justices, or other high status positions, this provides some measure of protection.
i don't know how many questions in the canadian census are subject to this treatment, as i have never worked with a full set of census data.
i'd agree with you there, sulli. cutting off a suspended crystal is pretty stupid. if the moron wanted asouvenir that badly, why didn't he get one that was already on the ground?
i guess amateur spelunkers aren't so good with physics or logistics.
o, how about adapting some of those cool punishments in tartarus, in the Aenied, or how about stealing from Dante's inferno?
We force a script kiddie to sit in front of a computer with a can of jolt and a box of twinkies. Whenere he reaches for the twinkies, they move further away, but the computer moves closer, whenever ehe reeaches for the coputer, the twinkies and jolt move out of reach! He can never have the twinkies, the jolt or the computer, they're all just out of reach!
how about forcing script kiddies to run vigorously with several hundred pounds of antiquitated computers strapped to their bodies? now, to add some fun to the whole thing, we could loose some rabid dogs!
i think my favourite punishment from the inferno was for heretics, maybe this applies to some script kiddies too. divergent computing practices, divergent religious beliefs, it's all the same, right? We could shove them in a hole, upside down, with their feet sticking out. Now, we can't light them on fire, because that would kill them, but we could fill the hole with something that itches (maybe wool), and they can't scratch the itch, because the hole is too narrow!
just a few ideas. i'll leave the rats and racks for another day.
on a more related note, 'online cops' won't do anything. have the police helped much in the physical world? as the number of enforcers increases, i'm willing to bet that the number of reactionary, psuedo-rebellious, angst-ridden script kiddies will increase too.
i don't let the man tell me where to sit on the freakin' bus, so i'm not gonna let him tell me how to compute! (or something, and some stuff. ..)
so that explains why al gore had to protect the american pharmaceutical companies against evil south africa! well, if we have to pay such a high price for chem journals, there's no way we can afford to let south africa develop cheap drugs to combat aids! no way! who cares about letting a deadly disease spread. it isn't in north america, why should we care, right?
i just can't find room in my heart to pity bristol-meyers and super-global pharmacuti-corps. maybe i'm hard hearted toward corporate suffering.
i'm no marxist, but there is definately a problem when knowledge becomes a commodity available only to the elites. i'm glad i read noam chomsky in my youth, because at this rate, his books will cost too much for my pocketbook soon.
the real irony about metallica is that james hetfield used to go over to lars' house all the time and copy his lps and tapes of euro-metal. in fact, there's an interview with hetfield in rolling stone from a few years ago where he lapses into a nostalgic monologue about spending his youth copying Lars' music collection.
you're right on target. electronic journals usually look crappy, work only sporadically, and over-charge. considering the quality of work in most of the journals i read on a regular basis, they shouldn't even be charging a fee. they should be paying me to read that tripe!
fair use does allow copying of large portions of books for interlibrary loan purposes. i've seen 2 or 3 chapters of a book photocopied and sent out for loan.
libraries can't control what theor patrons do either. one of my profs came to class last week with a complete, photocopy of one of dostoevsky's novels (albeit, D. is a special case, because copyrights surrounding his work in the original are non-existent in North America, and only the specific translation is copyrighted by the translator). i've seen patrons copy an entire book before. in fact, its hardly unusual, but i can't say that i agree with it.
i will not give up paper. call me outmoded, or backward, but fine literature deserves paper. put danielle steele online, it would be a fitting punishment for all the fools that read the tripe that she and her little committee of ghost writers produce, but leave aristophanes on paper.
i work at a library, and occasionally have the dubious pleasure of filling out order forms for books. here in Canada libraries don't pay a borrowing fee for each time the book is used, they just pay a higher price to buy the book initially.
libraries pay through the nose already! even though they are ubying from te publisher directly, canadian libraries pay exobirant prices for books. i've seen soft cover, 80 page books with a price tag of $50 or $60, just because they were written by some big-name post-modernist.
admittedly, movie rental stores pay a fee every time a movie is rented, but putting movies on the same level as books is ridiculous. if pulbishing companies want to start charging for books, make the charge apply to crap like danielle steele and all authors in the 'bored-mentally-challenged-housewife' market. that way universoty libraries, that have *real* books, and real financial problems, don't get shafted.
(WARNING: This may sound like flamebait, but it really isn't.)
I feel sorry for the clan kiddies in a way, even though their website was even crappier than mine, and they write with a very limited command of the English language. we shouldn't crack down on them just because they're juvenile and prurient.
arresting people or investigating them on a whim isn't worth the police time. concentrate on real crimes. In all honesty, should you care about 10 dead kids in some other state? Or 20 dead kids, or 30 dead kids? They're a statistic. A brutal statistic, but a number nonetheless. Unless you were related to one of them, or knew them, it isn't really your business.
O look, its another idiot who doesn't know how to post a link in HTML! (i'm lazy, i hate using a mouse.) one more thing, it is not slick to say anyone is a fucking idiot, mostly because its really uncreative.
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disposable income for people under the age of 13 has increased drastically over the past 10 years. I too was astonished to see 10 and 11 year olds with their own cell phones and mommy's credit cards.
pre-teens and teenagers may be dependent on parents for their financial resources, but parents are increasingly open to suggestion from kids for their purchases. (see Strauss and Howe's book / online forum Millenials Rising . most of the book is pretty deluded and biased, but there is some useful stuff.)
pre-teens and teenagers are massive consumers of everything from music to movies to clothes and junk food. they're over-protected, over-marketed and over-rated as far as i'm concerned.
did someone just try to argue that Keanu Reeves is a better actor that Jarr Jarr? Now, i'm not an expert, but I can't believe that a man whose claim to fame is the line "Whooa, duuude" could possibly be better than a computer generated amphibian.
not that we're talking about massive distinctions here, both of these characters are scraping the bottom of the acting barrel.
microsoft has more public relations and marketing people than the population of some eastern european nations. i wouldn't doubt that the iron gorilla is right.
besides, microsoft doesn't respect anything but microsoft. they assume the world is stupid (just like some of them).
A slight correction on the Meiji history, again. (groan and throw tomatoes if you must.)
1868, not the early 1800s, was the year that Prince Mutsuhito took the throne, and changed his name to "Meiji", which means 'enlightened rule'. (however, there was a nasty little skirmish going on in the early 1800s, so it's an undertandable mistake.)
the emperor was pro-westernization, or 'modernization' as it was called by the meiji faction. working at first covertly, then in the open, the supporters of Meiji overthrew the Tokugawa shogunate. in place of the shogunate system, they tried to institute a centralized government.
end japanese history lesson. now, go watch rurouni kenshin or read a boolk.
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Thanks! that's exactly what i would expect froma troll. too bad tis what i actually think, and have said many times (on my website, in classes, in papers. . .)
maybe we don't want to know that the stuff exists at all. maybe we don't want to be a 'target market'.
i'll remember your principled stand in the name of privacy the next time i need to do statistical research. how can you expect social scientists to do any credible research if you deny them information? census data is incredibly valuable to a wide range of academic studies.
conversely, i do agree that data collected by the government should not be sold for any type of market research (what an oxymoron) or commercial use.
The Canadian census, performed by Stats Canada, uses aggregated data instead of the measures employed by the American census bureau. this means that values like blishen scores (which measure the prestige of an occupation) are presented as ranges rather than singular values in the final presentation of the data. Since some blishen scores correspond to only one occupation, like that of supreme court justices, or other high status positions, this provides some measure of protection.
i don't know how many questions in the canadian census are subject to this treatment, as i have never worked with a full set of census data.
i'd agree with you there, sulli. cutting off a suspended crystal is pretty stupid. if the moron wanted asouvenir that badly, why didn't he get one that was already on the ground?
i guess amateur spelunkers aren't so good with physics or logistics.
YAY! kill those hippies! nuke those unwashed, phish loving, grateful dead-listening, matthew goode band supporting hippies!
uh, maybe we should hire ted nugent to wipe out the hippie population. we could tell him they were some kind of new species of wild life.
whoops. i sit corrected.
o, how about adapting some of those cool punishments in tartarus, in the Aenied, or how about stealing from Dante's inferno?
We force a script kiddie to sit in front of a computer with a can of jolt and a box of twinkies. Whenere he reaches for the twinkies, they move further away, but the computer moves closer, whenever ehe reeaches for the coputer, the twinkies and jolt move out of reach! He can never have the twinkies, the jolt or the computer, they're all just out of reach!
how about forcing script kiddies to run vigorously with several hundred pounds of antiquitated computers strapped to their bodies? now, to add some fun to the whole thing, we could loose some rabid dogs!
i think my favourite punishment from the inferno was for heretics, maybe this applies to some script kiddies too. divergent computing practices, divergent religious beliefs, it's all the same, right? We could shove them in a hole, upside down, with their feet sticking out. Now, we can't light them on fire, because that would kill them, but we could fill the hole with something that itches (maybe wool), and they can't scratch the itch, because the hole is too narrow!
just a few ideas. i'll leave the rats and racks for another day.
too bad you can't spell frontier.
on a more related note, 'online cops' won't do anything. have the police helped much in the physical world? as the number of enforcers increases, i'm willing to bet that the number of reactionary, psuedo-rebellious, angst-ridden script kiddies will increase too.
i don't let the man tell me where to sit on the freakin' bus, so i'm not gonna let him tell me how to compute! (or something, and some stuff. . .)
damn hippies. they should wash more often. nature smells good, hippies don't.
so that explains why al gore had to protect the american pharmaceutical companies against evil south africa! well, if we have to pay such a high price for chem journals, there's no way we can afford to let south africa develop cheap drugs to combat aids! no way! who cares about letting a deadly disease spread. it isn't in north america, why should we care, right?
i just can't find room in my heart to pity bristol-meyers and super-global pharmacuti-corps. maybe i'm hard hearted toward corporate suffering.
i'm no marxist, but there is definately a problem when knowledge becomes a commodity available only to the elites. i'm glad i read noam chomsky in my youth, because at this rate, his books will cost too much for my pocketbook soon.
the real irony about metallica is that james hetfield used to go over to lars' house all the time and copy his lps and tapes of euro-metal. in fact, there's an interview with hetfield in rolling stone from a few years ago where he lapses into a nostalgic monologue about spending his youth copying Lars' music collection.
you're right on target. electronic journals usually look crappy, work only sporadically, and over-charge. considering the quality of work in most of the journals i read on a regular basis, they shouldn't even be charging a fee. they should be paying me to read that tripe!
fair use does allow copying of large portions of books for interlibrary loan purposes. i've seen 2 or 3 chapters of a book photocopied and sent out for loan.
libraries can't control what theor patrons do either. one of my profs came to class last week with a complete, photocopy of one of dostoevsky's novels (albeit, D. is a special case, because copyrights surrounding his work in the original are non-existent in North America, and only the specific translation is copyrighted by the translator). i've seen patrons copy an entire book before. in fact, its hardly unusual, but i can't say that i agree with it.
i will not give up paper. call me outmoded, or backward, but fine literature deserves paper. put danielle steele online, it would be a fitting punishment for all the fools that read the tripe that she and her little committee of ghost writers produce, but leave aristophanes on paper.
i work at a library, and occasionally have the dubious pleasure of filling out order forms for books. here in Canada libraries don't pay a borrowing fee for each time the book is used, they just pay a higher price to buy the book initially.
libraries pay through the nose already! even though they are ubying from te publisher directly, canadian libraries pay exobirant prices for books. i've seen soft cover, 80 page books with a price tag of $50 or $60, just because they were written by some big-name post-modernist.
admittedly, movie rental stores pay a fee every time a movie is rented, but putting movies on the same level as books is ridiculous. if pulbishing companies want to start charging for books, make the charge apply to crap like danielle steele and all authors in the 'bored-mentally-challenged-housewife' market. that way universoty libraries, that have *real* books, and real financial problems, don't get shafted.
p = pence, dumbass!
(WARNING: This may sound like flamebait, but it really isn't.) I feel sorry for the clan kiddies in a way, even though their website was even crappier than mine, and they write with a very limited command of the English language. we shouldn't crack down on them just because they're juvenile and prurient. arresting people or investigating them on a whim isn't worth the police time. concentrate on real crimes. In all honesty, should you care about 10 dead kids in some other state? Or 20 dead kids, or 30 dead kids? They're a statistic. A brutal statistic, but a number nonetheless. Unless you were related to one of them, or knew them, it isn't really your business.
O look, its another idiot who doesn't know how to post a link in HTML! (i'm lazy, i hate using a mouse.) one more thing, it is not slick to say anyone is a fucking idiot, mostly because its really uncreative.
disposable income for people under the age of 13 has increased drastically over the past 10 years. I too was astonished to see 10 and 11 year olds with their own cell phones and mommy's credit cards.
pre-teens and teenagers may be dependent on parents for their financial resources, but parents are increasingly open to suggestion from kids for their purchases. (see Strauss and Howe's book / online forum Millenials Rising . most of the book is pretty deluded and biased, but there is some useful stuff.)
pre-teens and teenagers are massive consumers of everything from music to movies to clothes and junk food. they're over-protected, over-marketed and over-rated as far as i'm concerned.
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strictly speaking, aggregated data isn't personal.
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did someone just try to argue that Keanu Reeves is a better actor that Jarr Jarr? Now, i'm not an expert, but I can't believe that a man whose claim to fame is the line "Whooa, duuude" could possibly be better than a computer generated amphibian.
not that we're talking about massive distinctions here, both of these characters are scraping the bottom of the acting barrel.
that's an insightful point, but we don't really live in a democracy. we live in a capitalist technocracy, or at least you crazy americans do.
dude,
microsoft has more public relations and marketing people than the population of some eastern european nations. i wouldn't doubt that the iron gorilla is right.
besides, microsoft doesn't respect anything but microsoft. they assume the world is stupid (just like some of them).
A slight correction on the Meiji history, again. (groan and throw tomatoes if you must.)
1868, not the early 1800s, was the year that Prince Mutsuhito took the throne, and changed his name to "Meiji", which means 'enlightened rule'. (however, there was a nasty little skirmish going on in the early 1800s, so it's an undertandable mistake.)
the emperor was pro-westernization, or 'modernization' as it was called by the meiji faction. working at first covertly, then in the open, the supporters of Meiji overthrew the Tokugawa shogunate. in place of the shogunate system, they tried to institute a centralized government.
end japanese history lesson. now, go watch rurouni kenshin or read a boolk.