It can be extraordinarily popular and stick suck, which it is and it does. Another example of that is Windows. It is not extraordinarily popular because it doesn't suck, it is extraordinarily popular for other reasons, some of which are nothing to be proud of.
1: It's ugly and cumbersome to use by default. An Outlook-like interface has proven itself. To make GMail look like Outlook, one must install and enable some 3rd party add-on.
Please do not mix subjective terms like "ugly" with objective terms like "proven". You're confusing yourself when you do.
So in other words you have no substantive objection to OP's criticism of Gmail.
When we forget our history, we forget ourselves. Before Red Hat hat took it over in hamhanded fashion, there was a community project called fedora.us, the real Fedora project, as compared to Red Hat's fake community project, which is actually Red Hat's fake community project, renamed. Now the real original project is so buried under Red Hat sediment that people like you post revisionism to public forums, blithely unaware of what really happened. But such hings leave tracks on the internet
Apple gets just about all the industry's profits...
That tired old lie is getting tired and old. It depends on a credulous listener overlooking the fact that there are thousands of companies involved in the Android ecosystem, from lithography equipment vendors to front line salespeople, all making money on Android. The sum total dwarves Apple's income by a factor of, oh, roughly 5 and growing. Which is the rapidly growing total amount spent on Android phones compared to the shrinking total spent on Apple phones.
Tired old lies. Tired old liars. The more down Apple goes, the more up will go the lying. Courage, yeah, that's what it takes, it's courage. Not cynicism at all, no, it's courage.
There we have it: basically all the modern Apple cultist can manage is courage to downmod. Sucks to be you.
...He is fabulously rich and got that way selling software. Instead nerds consider Ellison to be a blight on the technology industry. There isn't the blah blah, and blah and blah...
Spoken well and truly as someone who has never had to wallow in crappy Oracle applications and buttfucking Oracle license fees or be the target of Oracle's legal trolling.
Apple gets just about all the industry's profits...
That tired old lie is getting tired and old. It depends on a credulous listener overlooking the fact that there are thousands of companies involved in the Android ecosystem, from lithography equipment vendors to front line salespeople, all making money on Android. The sum total dwarves Apple's income by a factor of, oh, roughly 5 and growing. Which is the rapidly growing total amount spent on Android phones compared to the shrinking total spent on Apple phones.
Tired old lies. Tired old liars. The more down Apple goes, the more up will go the lying. Courage, yeah, that's what it takes, it's courage. Not cynicism at all, no, it's courage.
Yup. Sitting back with popcorn for that one. Two weeks maybe, to get Ubuntu booted on it? Then if the price actually gets closer to the Chromebook zone, I'd pick one up.
Trying to get that number to sink deep down in, I really am, but it's just not happening. Citizens of the world buy more than a billion Android phones a year now. By that yardstick, it is hard to get all slack jawed about Apple's numbers.
I haven't programmed much in COBOL (too verbose) but have seen examples where it really shines - a few (well relatively - it's COBOL after all) lines of code to do e.g. reports compared to a lot of code C++, even when using relatively obscure libraries to do the heavy lifting.
Translation: to get rid of COBOL, we just need a sane report generator that can generate reports with a few lines of of C++ or Java, instead of (your characterization) a relatively obscure library. Surely this would be a better use of effort than beating away mindlessly on the old dead COBOL horse.
I disagree with your assessment that COBOL is well suited to the tasks it was designed for, that is, to provide back ends for business systems. At one time it did its job well, now it is an albatross around the neck of progress. Banks that stick with it will be banks that go under in the next shakeout.
COBOL is simple. It is also relatively limited. This makes it easier to track, troubleshoot, and maintain.
That is the theory. The fact is, because even trivial things are awkward to do in Cobol, every Cobol program that lives more than a year promptly turns into a gigantic mind sucking unmaintainable pile of toxic sludge.
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It's about time for Java to die. The Oracle experiment was a failure.
For that matter, it's about time for Oracle to die. And Oracle trollmod employees can also FOAD.
It can be extraordinarily popular and stick suck, which it is and it does. Another example of that is Windows. It is not extraordinarily popular because it doesn't suck, it is extraordinarily popular for other reasons, some of which are nothing to be proud of.
He pointed out pretty clearly a number of reasons why Gmail, objectively sucks. You didn't point out anything, why even bother posting?
It's about time for Java to die. The Oracle experiment was a failure.
1: It's ugly and cumbersome to use by default. An Outlook-like interface has proven itself. To make GMail look like Outlook, one must install and enable some 3rd party add-on.
Please do not mix subjective terms like "ugly" with objective terms like "proven". You're confusing yourself when you do.
So in other words you have no substantive objection to OP's criticism of Gmail.
When we forget our history, we forget ourselves. Before Red Hat hat took it over in hamhanded fashion, there was a community project called fedora.us, the real Fedora project, as compared to Red Hat's fake community project, which is actually Red Hat's fake community project, renamed. Now the real original project is so buried under Red Hat sediment that people like you post revisionism to public forums, blithely unaware of what really happened. But such hings leave tracks on the internet
In what universe is this story news for nerds?
Hand in your geek card, the return box is on the left, going out.
...Red Hat Legal provided the permission to ship...
Big of them. Remember when Fedora was an actual community distribution, and nobody had to raise their hand to go to the toilet?
Apple gets just about all the industry's profits...
That tired old lie is getting tired and old. It depends on a credulous listener overlooking the fact that there are thousands of companies involved in the Android ecosystem, from lithography equipment vendors to front line salespeople, all making money on Android. The sum total dwarves Apple's income by a factor of, oh, roughly 5 and growing. Which is the rapidly growing total amount spent on Android phones compared to the shrinking total spent on Apple phones.
Tired old lies. Tired old liars. The more down Apple goes, the more up will go the lying. Courage, yeah, that's what it takes, it's courage. Not cynicism at all, no, it's courage.
There we have it: basically all the modern Apple cultist can manage is courage to downmod. Sucks to be you.
Agree that relying on Apple in any way is gambling.
Missing big? When they 'only' sold 50.76m instead of the 52.27m predicted?
Down 2% instantly, for good reason. If you bet on AAPL yesterday, today you are broke. Suggest you learn about finance :)
...He is fabulously rich and got that way selling software. Instead nerds consider Ellison to be a blight on the technology industry. There isn't the blah blah, and blah and blah...
Spoken well and truly as someone who has never had to wallow in crappy Oracle applications and buttfucking Oracle license fees or be the target of Oracle's legal trolling.
Apple gets just about all the industry's profits...
That tired old lie is getting tired and old. It depends on a credulous listener overlooking the fact that there are thousands of companies involved in the Android ecosystem, from lithography equipment vendors to front line salespeople, all making money on Android. The sum total dwarves Apple's income by a factor of, oh, roughly 5 and growing. Which is the rapidly growing total amount spent on Android phones compared to the shrinking total spent on Apple phones.
Tired old lies. Tired old liars. The more down Apple goes, the more up will go the lying. Courage, yeah, that's what it takes, it's courage. Not cynicism at all, no, it's courage.
Yup. Sitting back with popcorn for that one. Two weeks maybe, to get Ubuntu booted on it? Then if the price actually gets closer to the Chromebook zone, I'd pick one up.
Trying to get that number to sink deep down in, I really am, but it's just not happening. Citizens of the world buy more than a billion Android phones a year now. By that yardstick, it is hard to get all slack jawed about Apple's numbers.
Marketing spin is not news.
What is not news about the richest company in the known universe missing big?
did customers really hold off or did they go elsewhere?
Elsewhere. Apple now counts for "negative cool". Apple is everything generation Z hates about their cringey millenial parents.
I am hanging onto my Windows 7 machines until MS releases an OS with a Windows 7-like UI.
While you're waiting, you can dual-install Linux and have that right now. (KDE)
Beaten by Linux.
(Monkey boy got one thing right.)
I haven't programmed much in COBOL (too verbose) but have seen examples where it really shines - a few (well relatively - it's COBOL after all) lines of code to do e.g. reports compared to a lot of code C++, even when using relatively obscure libraries to do the heavy lifting.
Translation: to get rid of COBOL, we just need a sane report generator that can generate reports with a few lines of of C++ or Java, instead of (your characterization) a relatively obscure library. Surely this would be a better use of effort than beating away mindlessly on the old dead COBOL horse.
I disagree with your assessment that COBOL is well suited to the tasks it was designed for, that is, to provide back ends for business systems. At one time it did its job well, now it is an albatross around the neck of progress. Banks that stick with it will be banks that go under in the next shakeout.
Let me get this straight. The only languages you can imagine are Cobol and Basic?
COBOL is simple. It is also relatively limited. This makes it easier to track, troubleshoot, and maintain.
That is the theory. The fact is, because even trivial things are awkward to do in Cobol, every Cobol program that lives more than a year promptly turns into a gigantic mind sucking unmaintainable pile of toxic sludge.
Anyone worried about getting outsourced, here's a opportunity - learn COBOL.
Or kill yourself, or both.
All programming languages are tedious as fuck to use.
Cobol is more tedious than more fuck.
Nothing like a car. Super obnoxious noisemaker with pathetic range and no creature comforts. Maybe fun for chasing the neighbour's cat.