They might have the goose with the golden eggs here. Their whole revenue model naturally depends on viral marketing of a free product that has basic functionality.
Once critical mass in telecoms has been achieved companies might start setting up gateways for this; they wouldnt want everyone be able to call just everyone within their company. Also they'll want conference and call forwarding. The whole shebang. Theyd pay good money for that if it means no more long distance charges.
If this does happen to skype (with its proprietary protocol), and it can easily happen because it's easy to use, spyware would poison a large portion of the virality of the marketing campaign, people wouldn't trust it. The very fact that kazaa's revenue model is ad- and soyware driven doesn't mean they'll port that pathetic model to their next venture. But the stench clings.
And if its not the next killer ap, well, they can always consider their options:)
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I think they're going to try to build a viable revenue model around this - since they make the protocol proprietary there might be a lot of money that can be made by call forwarding such connections to a person within a large organisation and other such networking software. A potentially HUGE business for them and I dont see them spoil it with advertising.
Sure it is, I just happened to respond to the parent post which insinuated that if MS doesn't advertise on a site it would have objective information. I'm an avid reader of the economist and they're not like that.
Mandating open source is like mandating tax paying people and entities to open their books so that the government can check it transparently. Even if MS has shared source how can that assuage the fears of a country like China if they can't compile that source themselves. The map is not the land, neither is the source necessarily the same source as what was compiled to create that particular application.
I believe that it's the duty of democratic governments to mandate open source and open standards on its own hardware and in its own publications. This so that the government process can be audited by parliament instruments (meaning it's essential to the seperation of powers in the digital age) and so that all citizens and companies can interface with government without having to buy support for closed standards.
We run a couple of rh 6.2 machines still. We can get the 2.2 kernel updates, apache updates, glibc updates... We don't depend on redhat for that. For what we do with it 6.2 is swee-et.
make
make install
and we're updated. In linux you don't depend on a vendor, you depend on the community to fix stuff. They've never failed us.
"controlling destiny" doesn't generally come into play. Things like initial cost, maintenance, training, support, downtime, possible upgrades, etc are things that I consider when I buy software.
That's exactly what controlling destiny means. It's not just an obi wan kenobi thing you know... And you might not be a programmer but getting source code and being able to tweak it should be HIGH on your list if you're in any tech business.
I'm glad the founding fathers thought a little different. Or did they have excess disposable income that they created such convenient constitutional freedoms?
The economist is hardly mainstream, it's certainly not a geek edition but caters for pretty much just as niche an audience. Still it's nice to see something else from them other than last months article on how the solution to viruses and worms such as blaster is to install a firewall and virus scanner. Not a word about alternatives such as macosx or linux. Not even saying run something other than IE/Outlook..
I think of them pretty highly when they're talking about the economy and politics. In fact it's hard to find a publication that's better. But when it comes to software and the computer biz they need an education. I'm glad to see they've started to understand.
One of the few 3d interfaces I love to use is the Homeworld / Homeworld2 interface for rotating and zooming in space.
The build & research manager in Homeworld is 2d though.
For most types of data representations the 2d tree interface is ideal. Maybe we are far too used to it; we don't now really see what we can do with a 3d interface that we can't do just as efficiently as in 2d. Even in a lot of movies 3d is just an enhanced use of 2d displays.
What we do most is deal with text. Text is very typically a 2d thing because its on paper or a representation of paper (slashdot textarea box). Text in 3d space... doesnt make sense. We'd have to learn a language of 3d space to understand references. Once we learn such a language it might be extremely efficient though, I guess time will tell.
I think you can actually rotate the structure, zoom in & zoom out. Homeworld the space sim has a similar interface that works very intuitively after a few tries. While each eye doesnt get the same picture the rendering of the picture follows the rules of 3d space.
I agree it's a waste of money. Soon enough we can send fairly intelligent robots there to do whatever humans would do at a much much lower cost. Eventually humans can go when robots have managed to set up some sort of basecamp.
Setting up base on a martian moon sounds like some pre-release Doom3 publicity stunt. Maybe John Carmac has started to make campaign contributions:) I bet he's firing rockets so he can install a dimensional gateway on Deimos!
Who is the "you guys", people who post on slashdot like eh yourself? Oh and are you someone who also uses the word "they" a lot?
Just read the article, it's during the installer, in the bookmarks and the default browser home pages. The latter two can be changed. Sounds like a pretty good idea for a free distribution.
I remember something that that survey back then counted "personal web servers" that win98 or 98se had... AOL people with modems and their own webpage? I'm not sure it's a couple of years ago.
Google search for india callcenter accent - they train people to do the texan drawl. Most usually you can pick either common american or common british accents. But money can buy you any accent.
In software we are often mis-informed about the extras. Its an unfortunate fact that the desktop is dominated by a monopoly who through vaporware, advertising and marketing raises expectations to a high level. Then when you actually experience it (take win98 which a lot of everyday users use) it just doesn live up to the hype.
But it is our choice. We are supposed to read the EULA and disclaimers. That nobody does because they are too long doesnt invalidate them as a contract. It would be dangerous when the judge had ruled otherwise, that would have massive consequences for our freedom of choice.
Too many people simply are afraid to learn what it takes to use their computer. Unless they are willing to learn what it takes to take control of their computer others are in the position to take control of it.
Install rh9 or mandrake in minimal install. Many distributions have that option. You wont have a graphics desktop that way but XFree86 isnt really working on anything below pentium class cpus well anyway. Itll run but...
There are many lightweight window managers for X. Maybe give it a test to install linux + X + fvwm95 on the 486 and see what kind of performance you get:) Theyre really good at being mailservers, firewalls or http servers (good relative to their spu speed:)
Too slow to do much damage? Take a 386 dx 40, put a linux kernel on it, and make it try to ddos a server you might have.. Or use it to spam your own email.. Youll be surprised.
Back in the early 90 i knew someone in oz who ran linux on a 386 - he had a couple of accounts for friends and ran a website on it. Really nice. In fact it makes for a pretty ideal PC based firewall given that it consumes less power.
Finding exploits that work will be SO EASY just check the sources for the nearest buffer overflow near you and youre off to the races.
As you can see "pointing guns" and "force to" isn't used in the definition.
Commercial Imperialism is a fairly adequate description of what a lot of large companies engage in. Imperialism is often used in a political context as a force between nations but can equally be effective describing companies.
Why is there a space shuttle when launching stuff by rocket arguably is cheaper and when we can have such ubercool projects such as galileio! More money to the scientists, less to the politicians!!
But this really hurts state's credibility. A lot of governments many of which are long time allies are not interested in DRM, have a case to be afraid that the microsoft monopoly will hurt their business and national security.
DRM for example would be/is an extension of a law that will most likely find very little implementation in other countries. Microsoft is all about closed standards that reinforce its monopoly powers.
The Bush govt is strongly promoting open & free markets worldwide. For state to promote concepts from a company that is so alien to free, open markets is troublesome and against the grain. Microsoft is hiring low cost programmers in places like India and China thanks to that same open market. They want it both ways.
MS also has to realize that any government simply is a consumer with very specific needs (mostly security, accountability and increasingly the need for open standards). MS fails to meet those needs. IBM is now meeting those needs with its Linux offerings. IBM would have more of a chance in Asia if State doesn't promote microsoft (I don't know if they do but it often appears that way).
MS has already lost the battle (not yet the revenue) but they dont understand. They have continually alienated foreign government bureaucracies by hiding behind uncle sam and using their popularity with consumers and business. Governments are and should be concerned over a MS lock-in.
All the large consumer electronics companies have decided to standardize on linux (embedded).
All the large phone makers (Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola) have very consciously decided against using MS software in their phones because they don't want MS to enter their market and screw them over. I bet Sony & IBM are working to make the PS3 such a killer console in order to stop microsoft from taking a larger market with the xbox.
If the State dept lends itself to promote microsoft they will just show themselves off as ignorant pawnsand be perceived as such by foreign govts. The US is not imperialist but MS certainly is.
The choice demographic of the record industry is kids.
Artists are the central attributes of the products that the record industry sells. It isn't music as much as it is selling lifestyle to kids who have little defense against the advertising onslaught and peer pressure. Music, fashion, drinks, cellphones... If you have an artist you can "bundle" other products and services along with it to that gullible audience.
It doesn't matter that most if not all songs on the CD are crap. These are not works of art. They're works of propaganda to further an image of how a kid should be so that they continue to spend their $ into the illusion they've been captured in.
I've met many decent parents who lost their kids to this ubercommecialism that has gone totally out of control. Naturally there are other artists who do not play in this picture but the very fact they're often signed up with the same record companies should give them pause...
just curious, is PHP available for these servers yet? I know apache & mysql run and have binaries available and if php runs as well then this should be a very nice scale up to:)
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Once critical mass in telecoms has been achieved companies might start setting up gateways for this; they wouldnt want everyone be able to call just everyone within their company. Also they'll want conference and call forwarding. The whole shebang. Theyd pay good money for that if it means no more long distance charges.
If this does happen to skype (with its proprietary protocol), and it can easily happen because it's easy to use, spyware would poison a large portion of the virality of the marketing campaign, people wouldn't trust it. The very fact that kazaa's revenue model is ad- and soyware driven doesn't mean they'll port that pathetic model to their next venture. But the stench clings.
And if its not the next killer ap, well, they can always consider their options :)
I think they're going to try to build a viable revenue model around this - since they make the protocol proprietary there might be a lot of money that can be made by call forwarding such connections to a person within a large organisation and other such networking software. A potentially HUGE business for them and I dont see them spoil it with advertising.
Sure it is, I just happened to respond to the parent post which insinuated that if MS doesn't advertise on a site it would have objective information. I'm an avid reader of the economist and they're not like that.
I believe that it's the duty of democratic governments to mandate open source and open standards on its own hardware and in its own publications. This so that the government process can be audited by parliament instruments (meaning it's essential to the seperation of powers in the digital age) and so that all citizens and companies can interface with government without having to buy support for closed standards.
MS happens to be one of the largest advertizers on the economist.
make
make install
and we're updated. In linux you don't depend on a vendor, you depend on the community to fix stuff. They've never failed us.
That's exactly what controlling destiny means. It's not just an obi wan kenobi thing you know... And you might not be a programmer but getting source code and being able to tweak it should be HIGH on your list if you're in any tech business.
I'm glad the founding fathers thought a little different. Or did they have excess disposable income that they created such convenient constitutional freedoms?
I think of them pretty highly when they're talking about the economy and politics. In fact it's hard to find a publication that's better. But when it comes to software and the computer biz they need an education. I'm glad to see they've started to understand.
Whoa its not THAT user friendly!
One of the few 3d interfaces I love to use is the Homeworld / Homeworld2 interface for rotating and zooming in space.
The build & research manager in Homeworld is 2d though.
For most types of data representations the 2d tree interface is ideal. Maybe we are far too used to it; we don't now really see what we can do with a 3d interface that we can't do just as efficiently as in 2d. Even in a lot of movies 3d is just an enhanced use of 2d displays.
What we do most is deal with text. Text is very typically a 2d thing because its on paper or a representation of paper (slashdot textarea box). Text in 3d space... doesnt make sense. We'd have to learn a language of 3d space to understand references. Once we learn such a language it might be extremely efficient though, I guess time will tell.
I think you can actually rotate the structure, zoom in & zoom out. Homeworld the space sim has a similar interface that works very intuitively after a few tries. While each eye doesnt get the same picture the rendering of the picture follows the rules of 3d space.
Setting up base on a martian moon sounds like some pre-release Doom3 publicity stunt. Maybe John Carmac has started to make campaign contributions :) I bet he's firing rockets so he can install a dimensional gateway on Deimos!
Just read the article, it's during the installer, in the bookmarks and the default browser home pages. The latter two can be changed. Sounds like a pretty good idea for a free distribution.
I remember something that that survey back then counted "personal web servers" that win98 or 98se had... AOL people with modems and their own webpage? I'm not sure it's a couple of years ago.
Google search for india callcenter accent - they train people to do the texan drawl. Most usually you can pick either common american or common british accents. But money can buy you any accent.
But it is our choice. We are supposed to read the EULA and disclaimers. That nobody does because they are too long doesnt invalidate them as a contract. It would be dangerous when the judge had ruled otherwise, that would have massive consequences for our freedom of choice.
Too many people simply are afraid to learn what it takes to use their computer. Unless they are willing to learn what it takes to take control of their computer others are in the position to take control of it.
There are many lightweight window managers for X. Maybe give it a test to install linux + X + fvwm95 on the 486 and see what kind of performance you get:) Theyre really good at being mailservers, firewalls or http servers (good relative to their spu speed :)
Back in the early 90 i knew someone in oz who ran linux on a 386 - he had a couple of accounts for friends and ran a website on it. Really nice. In fact it makes for a pretty ideal PC based firewall given that it consumes less power.
Finding exploits that work will be SO EASY just check the sources for the nearest buffer overflow near you and youre off to the races.
Linux is free, marigins on cellphones are low. MS licensing ..... you want this rope where?
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As you can see "pointing guns" and "force to" isn't used in the definition.
Commercial Imperialism is a fairly adequate description of what a lot of large companies engage in. Imperialism is often used in a political context as a force between nations but can equally be effective describing companies.
Why is there a space shuttle when launching stuff by rocket arguably is cheaper and when we can have such ubercool projects such as galileio! More money to the scientists, less to the politicians!!
DRM for example would be/is an extension of a law that will most likely find very little implementation in other countries. Microsoft is all about closed standards that reinforce its monopoly powers.
The Bush govt is strongly promoting open & free markets worldwide. For state to promote concepts from a company that is so alien to free, open markets is troublesome and against the grain. Microsoft is hiring low cost programmers in places like India and China thanks to that same open market. They want it both ways.
MS also has to realize that any government simply is a consumer with very specific needs (mostly security, accountability and increasingly the need for open standards). MS fails to meet those needs. IBM is now meeting those needs with its Linux offerings. IBM would have more of a chance in Asia if State doesn't promote microsoft (I don't know if they do but it often appears that way).
All the large consumer electronics companies have decided to standardize on linux (embedded).
All the large phone makers (Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola) have very consciously decided against using MS software in their phones because they don't want MS to enter their market and screw them over. I bet Sony & IBM are working to make the PS3 such a killer console in order to stop microsoft from taking a larger market with the xbox.
If the State dept lends itself to promote microsoft they will just show themselves off as ignorant pawnsand be perceived as such by foreign govts. The US is not imperialist but MS certainly is.
The choice demographic of the record industry is kids.
Artists are the central attributes of the products that the record industry sells. It isn't music as much as it is selling lifestyle to kids who have little defense against the advertising onslaught and peer pressure. Music, fashion, drinks, cellphones... If you have an artist you can "bundle" other products and services along with it to that gullible audience.
It doesn't matter that most if not all songs on the CD are crap. These are not works of art. They're works of propaganda to further an image of how a kid should be so that they continue to spend their $ into the illusion they've been captured in.
I've met many decent parents who lost their kids to this ubercommecialism that has gone totally out of control. Naturally there are other artists who do not play in this picture but the very fact they're often signed up with the same record companies should give them pause...
just curious, is PHP available for these servers yet? I know apache & mysql run and have binaries available and if php runs as well then this should be a very nice scale up to :)