This is not as unusual as it sounds. Terry VS Ohio set the standard for frisking, where an officer has the right to search someone if the have any reason to think the person has a weapon on them.
I am already stopped a couple times a month and have to show my DL at road blocks, in the country side. I don't want this to go too far, granted, but its not as different as what is the practice anyway.
As I understand the Constitution (and I believe I do), you have the right to express your opinion, be treated the same regardless of race, gender, etc., be free of unreasonable search and seizure (which is argueably not what this is), to not have to testify against yourself, and several other nicities that I agree need protection, always.
But I don't remember seeing that being anonymous is an absolute right. It is implied, to a degree, with speech in some but not all ways. Commercial speech is different than political speech, for instance. It is implied in that justice should be blind, and treat you the same as everyone else. But not a blanket right to be anonymous in all things.
If something SHOULD be a Right, but its not in the Constitution, its not a Right. Petition, get sponsors, submit an Amendment, get it ratified by 2/3rds of the states, and its a Right. It's difficult on purpose, for good reason: To keep it from being used frivilously or in the heat of the moment.
I am not convinced that a Right to be anonymous in all ways is a good thing.
They just didn't do a good job of exploring the moral implications of Archer's actions, such as torture, theft, and possibly even murder, but I can't remember.
I think that was a good thing. They made it obvious that he was deviating from the norm, that he was violating common practice (keep in mind, this is before the Prime Directive came about). What they did, is show what he did, and how he did it, without commenting on what he did. The others around him disagreed with him, but followed orders. They didn't tell me what to think about it, instead letting me draw my own conclusions.
They have done this several times, even hinting that "we need some kind of directive that will helps us decide in times like this".
What Archer does, from time to time, is wrong, but the right thing at the right time. Every ST captain has violated the prime directive, demonstrating that no set of rules can or should be absolute.
we went back a few times, the problem is "why" go back, since we had gained most of what could have learned with the technology we had at the time. There are thousands of new tests we could do NOW, but we didn't have the technology to do this kind of testing then.
Also, consider a large portion of our justification WAS to beat the Soviets, which had already been done by the first flight.
Also, consider we almost lost 3 guys during Apollo 13, which made us sit back and ask why we were doing this when we already had most of the science we could reasonably gather considering the technology we had at the time. We would have been better off figuring out how to go back every 10 years instead of once a year for a few years, so we could develop better tests, and get better ideas for tests.
So... you're telling Slashdot to go to some page and keep hitting refresh?
lol, after careful thought and consideration (or lack thereof...) that might not have been the best idea, but its a popular site, almost all text, and it has been reasonably fast all morning. (some delays toward appex). I am assuming they can handle the load. There is, of course, no mirror.
Actually, the site says to "hit refresh" to get the latest news. Its mainly just single or two sentence updates.
Yes, it would have made more accomplishments more likely, earlier. The billions and billions of dollars that NASA has spent are gone from the private sector.
No, the billions of dollars spent went TO the private sector! Who do you think NASA spent the money WITH? They don't have their own factories, they bid out all the jobs, and the private sector is who gets the jobs!
NASA has contributed BILLIONS to the development of space technology by the fact that private and publicly traded companies are who do the actual work. NASA does the admin, makes the decisions, trains the pilots and monitors the flights. Everyone in the worlds gets the science, for free.
Who exactly would be banning "military stuff" from space?
No... think about that. Some dudes with flowers and paintings and poetry are going to enforce a military-in-space-ban?
One nice thing about vegitarian/tree hugging/anti-war types is how easy it is to whomp their asses with a night stick:) Skulls make a nice "thwap!" sound when struck.
But yes, you are correct in that you can't "ban" military action in space without a military presence IN space. I am not all thrilled with heavy military weapons in space, but the only defense is cooperation, not idealism.
... which you can ONLY read if you register as a "member"... so much for openness... gotta be a member of the "club" which means feeding Big Brother's appetite for information... what hypocrisy.
Bullshit, I have never registered at Groklaw. They have no such requirement. You are on drugs, sir.
Keep in mind there is a difference in a device that causes interference actively and passively. since the wallpaper would be controllable (only blocks where it is installed) it is not the same as a device that causes RF that interferes with transmission in a bad way (like a radio device).
We need to start NOW if we want to have 40 million people on the moon by 2371...
I am guessing your math doesn't include any births on the moon, so it would be done sooner. Besides, you put just 50 men and women in low g, several are going to at least be curious about sex.
On another note...It will be very expensive to go into space as a passenger for a while, but I think they need to focus on their market: Rich internet dot.commers who want to have sex in space. Just like VCRs, the Internet, and video cameras, the first people who want to go into space have to be doing it for some reason tied to sex, and willing to pay full price, making it cheaper for the rest of us eventually.
I'm not completely sure how this will work, but just about any new technology is always paid for by people wanting pr0n/sexchat/etc so why would this be any different? Would you pay $100,000 to get a bj in zero gravity?
Being a die-hard conservative, I for one welcome our new corporate astronauts and look forward to it creating some new ideas at NASA as well. Obviously, this depends on your link still being funny tomorrow at lunch, rather than prophetic.
you are correct, I have done the same thing several times and zone alarm does the job. This assumes you can download and burn it from another box, which is not that difficult.
I had the same problem back with 2000. I put it on an SDSL line (going to use it as a secondary dns box). Was infected before I could get it fully installed, no less before I could get it updated.
The real irony is: At the time, there had been several BIND security problems (think RH 6.2-7.2), and my idea was to convert my secondary DNS box to a completely different OS (Win2k + SimpleDNS) so the likelyhood of both boxes getting pwned would be very remote, in theory. Obviously, I just went back to using Linux for Secondary DNS with a hand rolled BIND and just checked more often for patches.
As they explain in the articles, "from" doesn't mean the same source code, it means it was compatible or supposed to be. Again, I know this is wrong, and its just more of their FUD. Grok has a great set of articles on it, better than average.
He made linux for two reasons, from what I have read: He didn't like the limitations of Minix. He didn't like the license of Minix. Minix was designed to be a limited teaching tool, and cost like 70-80 bucks a license. He worked on a Minix box when he first started, until he could get.1 kernel up enough to boot.
I think Minix was completely from scratch as well, and not fully POSIX, but close enough. The author of Minix is and was a college professor, whose sole motivation was to make a teaching tool (and appearantly make a few bucks to cover costs I guess...)
I also think that Linus began using the GNU/GPL within a year of starting the project.
They can't release what they don't own. Since it appears that Novell owns the copyrights, SCO may be elligible for a lawsuit for unlawful disclosure of copyrighted material to the public. This is yet another can of worms, and we would have to hope that since Novell just bought SuSe (with the help of IBM) that this would not cause other problems with code SCO contributed before it became evil.
They are trying to bolster their claims that Linux came from Minix, which came from the same source as Sinix, which is their code.
Actually, if you just go to Groklaw, they have tons of really good info on this, instead of just AC comments. Including links to the SCO chart showing how Linux is linked off of "SCO Linux"...
but it turned out the andorians followed them in...
If you remember the scene where the time traveling guy shows Archer the founding of the Federation, there were Andorians, Vulcans and Humans there (may have been others, I just noticed the blue heads). Ok, the time traveler is a little weak, but still, I like what they are doing with the Andorians in the show, and the Andorians showing up at the last minute actually shocked me. Wasn't expecting it at all.
I also like the way they are showing the hostility that would exist between the Vulcans and the Humans. They may have overplayed it a hair in the first season, but if you think about it, it would be there. With the Vulcans holding back info (probably for good reason, but with an arrogent attitude) I can see some hostility.
I also like the fact that they are willing to show Archer doing stuff that he should NOT be doing, willing to suffocate the guy in the air lock, etc. They should him as a bastard from time to time, when he needs to be, which would be pretty real being isolated in space trying to save a planet...
The problems I have had with Enterprise was mainly the second season, and mainly just bad scripts. I would find half way through the episode, I didn't care if they lived or not;) This year started slow, but got a lot better, IMHO. I could nit pick it to death, but I choose to overlook the shortcomings instead. Its easier to bitch than have hope for better soon (as demonstrated here on/.) but I will keep hoping for better scripts.
Oh yea, and Rick appears to be taken aback because more people think Hoshi is sexy, rather than Tupal, but he should just let the audience decide and write to it. Me, I think they are both pretty damn hot:)
Is it NASA's mission to get cheap access to space?
Yes. Look at all the Mars probes lately: more bang, less buck. So any new technology that makes going into space cheaper IS part of their mission. They are using our tax dollars as well, so it is their duty as well.
Or is its mission to explore and design/fund new technologies that American companies can use for whatever?
The original mission was to beat the Soviets to space and the moon. If you doubt that, please notice that the Soviets QUIT trying to go to the moon after we were first. Designing new technologies for American companies is a side benefit, not a mission statement. The goal is exploration for exploration's sake and to benefit everyone, not just American Corporations.
I doubt it would be illegal anywhere, as long as the place was not a "required" building and it was posted that your cellphones could not work inside. Wallpapering someone elses house, yes illegal. Not informing people that RF is blocked, yes. Public buildings, like courthouses, etc., maybe. But a theatre is a privately owned building.
If I tell you that you must remove your shoes before you enter my home, I have every right to do so, and you have every right to choose to not enter my home. Same thing. No one is requiring you to enter a movie theatre. Personally, I would gladly pay an extra $1 to go to a theatre if I knew that cell phones could not work inside.
I'm tired of you folks saying they should pack it in. You're wrong, there are plenty of us that still enjoy trek.
I agree with you. The average slashdotter reminds me of the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons (in more than one way, not so ironically) in that they take the attitude that "Star Trek owes me for watching". Reminiscent of the attack against Itchy and Scratchy, where Bart points out that they had provided years of free entertainment, and all the Comic Book Guy could say is "Worst Episode Ever".
The the producers didn't take chances, it would be boring. If you take chances, you are are going to fall on your face from time to time. We can all argue what is good and what is falling on your face, but the fact is, I would rather watch the worst Star Treks (Voyager, IMHO) than watch most other TV shows. You can always turn the TV off.
I think Rick screwed up Enterprise in the 2nd season, and somewhat redeemed himeself in the 3rd. The concept is valid, the acting is acceptible, and for God's sake, the Andoreans are just too fucking cool;) Gotta love those antennas.... I for one, will wait it out, and probably bitch about the bad episodes like everyone else, but I DONT think they should just quit. They should keep the concept alive, try new things, and keep in touch with their fan base.
It appears this independent version of years 4 and 5 may be just the tip of the iceburg, and we may find in 3 or 4 years, the best "Star Treks" started out as fan based concepts that the producers bought out and ran with.
Thats pretty closed minded. There are hundreds of camp grounds that are designed for people who disagree, and range from the high end camps with pools, spas and concrete pads to park your diesel pusher on, to middle of the road KOA grounds.
YOU might camp to get close to nature, but some camp for different reasons. They travel all over, visit lots of cool places, and since they spend so much time doing it, they want to be comfortable while they do it.
We camp regularly, but not in a tent. We camp to be close to the lake and fishing, to get away from the house and the headaches, and we do it in a small, pull behind camper. It has a stove, sink, bathroom, bed, table, etc. Its old, but it works. Over a million of us camp this way in the states. We go for 2 to 14 days, and yes, like entertainment while we camp. We like to CHOOSE what we are getting away from, and what we can take with us.
Not everyone wants to camp primitive, and most people don't.
Slashdot Mirror
This is not as unusual as it sounds. Terry VS Ohio set the standard for frisking, where an officer has the right to search someone if the have any reason to think the person has a weapon on them.
I am already stopped a couple times a month and have to show my DL at road blocks, in the country side. I don't want this to go too far, granted, but its not as different as what is the practice anyway.
As I understand the Constitution (and I believe I do), you have the right to express your opinion, be treated the same regardless of race, gender, etc., be free of unreasonable search and seizure (which is argueably not what this is), to not have to testify against yourself, and several other nicities that I agree need protection, always.
But I don't remember seeing that being anonymous is an absolute right. It is implied, to a degree, with speech in some but not all ways. Commercial speech is different than political speech, for instance. It is implied in that justice should be blind, and treat you the same as everyone else. But not a blanket right to be anonymous in all things.
If something SHOULD be a Right, but its not in the Constitution, its not a Right. Petition, get sponsors, submit an Amendment, get it ratified by 2/3rds of the states, and its a Right. It's difficult on purpose, for good reason: To keep it from being used frivilously or in the heat of the moment.
I am not convinced that a Right to be anonymous in all ways is a good thing.
They just didn't do a good job of exploring the moral implications of Archer's actions, such as torture, theft, and possibly even murder, but I can't remember.
I think that was a good thing. They made it obvious that he was deviating from the norm, that he was violating common practice (keep in mind, this is before the Prime Directive came about). What they did, is show what he did, and how he did it, without commenting on what he did. The others around him disagreed with him, but followed orders. They didn't tell me what to think about it, instead letting me draw my own conclusions.
They have done this several times, even hinting that "we need some kind of directive that will helps us decide in times like this".
What Archer does, from time to time, is wrong, but the right thing at the right time. Every ST captain has violated the prime directive, demonstrating that no set of rules can or should be absolute.
But this is more fun...
:>
#!/bin/bash
while true
do
wget -b -p -q http://www.spaceflightnow.com/ss1/status.html
done
Even works with Cygwin without perl...
we went back a few times, the problem is "why" go back, since we had gained most of what could have learned with the technology we had at the time. There are thousands of new tests we could do NOW, but we didn't have the technology to do this kind of testing then.
Also, consider a large portion of our justification WAS to beat the Soviets, which had already been done by the first flight.
Also, consider we almost lost 3 guys during Apollo 13, which made us sit back and ask why we were doing this when we already had most of the science we could reasonably gather considering the technology we had at the time. We would have been better off figuring out how to go back every 10 years instead of once a year for a few years, so we could develop better tests, and get better ideas for tests.
Profit!
hehehe, no, that will be in August when they try to launch three people 100km (same as today) twice in two weeks to win the xprize, $10 million.
That will cover almost half of their expenses, which is very cool. I wish them luck.
So... you're telling Slashdot to go to some page and keep hitting refresh?
lol, after careful thought and consideration (or lack thereof...) that might not have been the best idea, but its a popular site, almost all text, and it has been reasonably fast all morning. (some delays toward appex). I am assuming they can handle the load. There is, of course, no mirror.
Actually, the site says to "hit refresh" to get the latest news. Its mainly just single or two sentence updates.
get the blow by blow here.
Just refresh your page to get the newest news.
Yes, it would have made more accomplishments more likely, earlier. The billions and billions of dollars that NASA has spent are gone from the private sector.
No, the billions of dollars spent went TO the private sector! Who do you think NASA spent the money WITH? They don't have their own factories, they bid out all the jobs, and the private sector is who gets the jobs!
NASA has contributed BILLIONS to the development of space technology by the fact that private and publicly traded companies are who do the actual work. NASA does the admin, makes the decisions, trains the pilots and monitors the flights. Everyone in the worlds gets the science, for free.
Who exactly would be banning "military stuff" from space?
... think about that. Some dudes with flowers and paintings and poetry are going to enforce a military-in-space-ban?
:) Skulls make a nice "thwap!" sound when struck.
No
One nice thing about vegitarian/tree hugging/anti-war types is how easy it is to whomp their asses with a night stick
But yes, you are correct in that you can't "ban" military action in space without a military presence IN space. I am not all thrilled with heavy military weapons in space, but the only defense is cooperation, not idealism.
A true Slashdotter. Not getting any, and willing to do anything to make it happen!
:p
Now, to be fair, I used to get all the sex I could handle, for many years. Really. Never had a problem until a couple years after I got married...
... which you can ONLY read if you register as a "member"... so much for openness... gotta be a member of the "club" which means feeding Big Brother's appetite for information... what hypocrisy.
Bullshit, I have never registered at Groklaw. They have no such requirement. You are on drugs, sir.
Keep in mind there is a difference in a device that causes interference actively and passively. since the wallpaper would be controllable (only blocks where it is installed) it is not the same as a device that causes RF that interferes with transmission in a bad way (like a radio device).
I'm guessing sex in low g might not be all it's cracked up to be.
:)
Thats a chance I am willing to take
We need to start NOW if we want to have 40 million people on the moon by 2371...
I am guessing your math doesn't include any births on the moon, so it would be done sooner. Besides, you put just 50 men and women in low g, several are going to at least be curious about sex.
On another note...It will be very expensive to go into space as a passenger for a while, but I think they need to focus on their market: Rich internet dot.commers who want to have sex in space. Just like VCRs, the Internet, and video cameras, the first people who want to go into space have to be doing it for some reason tied to sex, and willing to pay full price, making it cheaper for the rest of us eventually.
I'm not completely sure how this will work, but just about any new technology is always paid for by people wanting pr0n/sexchat/etc so why would this be any different? Would you pay $100,000 to get a bj in zero gravity?
That is just plain wrong. Funny, yes, but wrong.
Being a die-hard conservative, I for one welcome our new corporate astronauts and look forward to it creating some new ideas at NASA as well. Obviously, this depends on your link still being funny tomorrow at lunch, rather than prophetic.
you are correct, I have done the same thing several times and zone alarm does the job. This assumes you can download and burn it from another box, which is not that difficult.
I had the same problem back with 2000. I put it on an SDSL line (going to use it as a secondary dns box). Was infected before I could get it fully installed, no less before I could get it updated.
The real irony is: At the time, there had been several BIND security problems (think RH 6.2-7.2), and my idea was to convert my secondary DNS box to a completely different OS (Win2k + SimpleDNS) so the likelyhood of both boxes getting pwned would be very remote, in theory. Obviously, I just went back to using Linux for Secondary DNS with a hand rolled BIND and just checked more often for patches.
As they explain in the articles, "from" doesn't mean the same source code, it means it was compatible or supposed to be. Again, I know this is wrong, and its just more of their FUD. Grok has a great set of articles on it, better than average.
He made linux for two reasons, from what I have read: He didn't like the limitations of Minix. He didn't like the license of Minix. Minix was designed to be a limited teaching tool, and cost like 70-80 bucks a license. He worked on a Minix box when he first started, until he could get .1 kernel up enough to boot.
I think Minix was completely from scratch as well, and not fully POSIX, but close enough. The author of Minix is and was a college professor, whose sole motivation was to make a teaching tool (and appearantly make a few bucks to cover costs I guess...)
I also think that Linus began using the GNU/GPL within a year of starting the project.
They have already released their copyright.
They can't release what they don't own. Since it appears that Novell owns the copyrights, SCO may be elligible for a lawsuit for unlawful disclosure of copyrighted material to the public. This is yet another can of worms, and we would have to hope that since Novell just bought SuSe (with the help of IBM) that this would not cause other problems with code SCO contributed before it became evil.
They are trying to bolster their claims that Linux came from Minix, which came from the same source as Sinix, which is their code.
Actually, if you just go to Groklaw, they have tons of really good info on this, instead of just AC comments. Including links to the SCO chart showing how Linux is linked off of "SCO Linux"...
but it turned out the andorians followed them in...
;) This year started slow, but got a lot better, IMHO. I could nit pick it to death, but I choose to overlook the shortcomings instead. Its easier to bitch than have hope for better soon (as demonstrated here on /.) but I will keep hoping for better scripts.
:)
If you remember the scene where the time traveling guy shows Archer the founding of the Federation, there were Andorians, Vulcans and Humans there (may have been others, I just noticed the blue heads). Ok, the time traveler is a little weak, but still, I like what they are doing with the Andorians in the show, and the Andorians showing up at the last minute actually shocked me. Wasn't expecting it at all.
I also like the way they are showing the hostility that would exist between the Vulcans and the Humans. They may have overplayed it a hair in the first season, but if you think about it, it would be there. With the Vulcans holding back info (probably for good reason, but with an arrogent attitude) I can see some hostility.
I also like the fact that they are willing to show Archer doing stuff that he should NOT be doing, willing to suffocate the guy in the air lock, etc. They should him as a bastard from time to time, when he needs to be, which would be pretty real being isolated in space trying to save a planet...
The problems I have had with Enterprise was mainly the second season, and mainly just bad scripts. I would find half way through the episode, I didn't care if they lived or not
Oh yea, and Rick appears to be taken aback because more people think Hoshi is sexy, rather than Tupal, but he should just let the audience decide and write to it. Me, I think they are both pretty damn hot
Is it NASA's mission to get cheap access to space?
Yes. Look at all the Mars probes lately: more bang, less buck. So any new technology that makes going into space cheaper IS part of their mission. They are using our tax dollars as well, so it is their duty as well.
Or is its mission to explore and design/fund new technologies that American companies can use for whatever?
The original mission was to beat the Soviets to space and the moon. If you doubt that, please notice that the Soviets QUIT trying to go to the moon after we were first. Designing new technologies for American companies is a side benefit, not a mission statement. The goal is exploration for exploration's sake and to benefit everyone, not just American Corporations.
I doubt it would be illegal anywhere, as long as the place was not a "required" building and it was posted that your cellphones could not work inside. Wallpapering someone elses house, yes illegal. Not informing people that RF is blocked, yes. Public buildings, like courthouses, etc., maybe. But a theatre is a privately owned building.
If I tell you that you must remove your shoes before you enter my home, I have every right to do so, and you have every right to choose to not enter my home. Same thing. No one is requiring you to enter a movie theatre. Personally, I would gladly pay an extra $1 to go to a theatre if I knew that cell phones could not work inside.
I'm tired of you folks saying they should pack it in. You're wrong, there are plenty of us that still enjoy trek.
;) Gotta love those antennas.... I for one, will wait it out, and probably bitch about the bad episodes like everyone else, but I DONT think they should just quit. They should keep the concept alive, try new things, and keep in touch with their fan base.
I agree with you. The average slashdotter reminds me of the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons (in more than one way, not so ironically) in that they take the attitude that "Star Trek owes me for watching". Reminiscent of the attack against Itchy and Scratchy, where Bart points out that they had provided years of free entertainment, and all the Comic Book Guy could say is "Worst Episode Ever".
The the producers didn't take chances, it would be boring. If you take chances, you are are going to fall on your face from time to time. We can all argue what is good and what is falling on your face, but the fact is, I would rather watch the worst Star Treks (Voyager, IMHO) than watch most other TV shows. You can always turn the TV off.
I think Rick screwed up Enterprise in the 2nd season, and somewhat redeemed himeself in the 3rd. The concept is valid, the acting is acceptible, and for God's sake, the Andoreans are just too fucking cool
It appears this independent version of years 4 and 5 may be just the tip of the iceburg, and we may find in 3 or 4 years, the best "Star Treks" started out as fan based concepts that the producers bought out and ran with.
Camping" means "Don't have access to cable TV".
Thats pretty closed minded. There are hundreds of camp grounds that are designed for people who disagree, and range from the high end camps with pools, spas and concrete pads to park your diesel pusher on, to middle of the road KOA grounds.
YOU might camp to get close to nature, but some camp for different reasons. They travel all over, visit lots of cool places, and since they spend so much time doing it, they want to be comfortable while they do it.
We camp regularly, but not in a tent. We camp to be close to the lake and fishing, to get away from the house and the headaches, and we do it in a small, pull behind camper. It has a stove, sink, bathroom, bed, table, etc. Its old, but it works. Over a million of us camp this way in the states. We go for 2 to 14 days, and yes, like entertainment while we camp. We like to CHOOSE what we are getting away from, and what we can take with us.
Not everyone wants to camp primitive, and most people don't.