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Star Trek: New Voyages, Downloadable Video
tm2b writes "What if you could make new episodes of the original Star Trek, with the same characters, worse acting (believe it or not), better special effects, and lower resolution? It seems that some fans secured the Roddenberry family's support for doing just that. They call it Star Trek: New Voyages and they've completed one full episode and and working on another to be released in August. They plan to pick up with the fourth year of the "five year mission," and the first episode can be downloaded in zipped WMV format. It's worth checking out if you can ignore acting that actually makes you yearn for the quality of the original cast. Personally, I love seeing what they can do rendering the old ST tech with modern CGI."
Does anyone want to set up a .torrent file?
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
I've heard about this before, but I wasn't able to get any clips (I think that their download site was down? I don't remember). Since i was on dialup at the time, I'm glad I didn't waste my time on it.
/. community. Now I know to give this turkey a wiiide birth.
This is truly a service to the
Zipped WMV Format? Is this some sort of Romulan Empire technology I'm not familiar with? Boy, let me rush right over and download that! :P
This? Perfect application for bittorrent.
Someone please post a torrent mirror. =)
Worse than Shatner?
Oh.....come.....on.....I.....find that......hard....to.....believe!
WARNING:Approaching Nerd Factor 9. . .
Seriously, though, I salute their courage and hard work. This can't have been simple to put together.
You are not the customer.
Could someone who already downloaded this please seed a torrent? No need to take all the mirrors down.
Another great fan made Star Trek is Hidden Frontier
Make the Star Trek name absolute mud? Honestly, it has all been downhill since TNG...
Star Trek DS9: "To boldly go... no where. We're on a freaking space station people. We stay stationary, people... that's our job - to be dull!"
Star Trek Voyager: "To boldly promote the worst captain ever! Yeah, Janeway - you go, girl. Magically know stuff that no one else does. Cool, baby!!!"
Star Trek Enterprise: "To boldly go and fuck up the entire timeline."
Give it up, already... this is just getting pathetic. Leave us with the good stuff and get rid of this marketing money-driven drivel.
WMV is a tool of the Devil.
Maybe we deserve this world ?
if you haven't downloaded it yet, better wait awhile. any other mirrors out there?
Did they get Steven Segal as the captain, whose mission it is to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and BEAT THE CRAP out of their civilizations? (fade-in Segal beating the crap out of a green alien dude with his bare hands, then saying "Where the hell is that chick who jumped out of the cake?!")
;p
Ok, I admit it, I'm a troll.. I just can't help it. I like negative karma
I do not respond to cowards. Especially anonymous ones.
The trailer at any rate works fine for me that way (using Knoppix-based Debian install). Xine complains that my processor isn't fast enough*, but that seems to me a family matter and nothing the authorities have any right to pass comment upon.
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timothy
*And they mean the one on my desk, a VIA Epia-M 900. Probably right, too, but the trailer played acceptably for me
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Capn' I don't think the mirrors will hold, even by rerouting auxillary power!
Seriously, all mirrors were slower than death already while the post was in the Mysterious Future...
what's the point in zipping a WMV file ??? I can't imagine getting more than 1% gain, probably even a negative compression effect...
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
the Star Wreck movie?
I love C++
Yeah but Star Trek had an interracial kiss before the soaps :)
English is easier said than done.
all of my downloads just stoped form mirror 2 I assume it just got slashdoted :D So has anyone set up a mirror or at least a torrent for this?
I went to Mirror 1. The page loaded quickly, as did the main page. I got confused. This was Star Trek and on Slashdot. I initiated the download. I got 0.1 KB / sec.
*phew*
The world hadn't gone crazy after all.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
But can they ever match the horror that is Turk Trek? http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=art icle&articleid=22646
Scotty, beam me down a zipped WMV file!
Sir, I just doanna 'ave the power!
Bones, what the hell happend to those mirrors? .torrent!
They're dead, Jim.
Can't you bring them back up?
Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor not a
Ah....let the crazies (that is: uber-Trekkies -- is that a word? should be) make a Star Trek, and what do you know! It's better than "Enterprise"!
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http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter Starship Exeter This one is done with a different ship in the The Original Series universe. Makes the change of the crew actors a bit more plausible.
Link in parent post is WORSE THAN GOATSE!!
Here are links for the files in Overnet / Edonkey format:
Star Trek New Voyages Teaser.zip
Star Trek New Voyages act_1.zip
Star Trek New Voyages act_2.zip
Star Trek New Voyages act_3.zip
Star Trek New Voyages act_4.zip
Star Trek New Voyages Episode_Trailer.zip
Star Trek New Voyages Series_Trailer.zip
Someone post the Torrents pls!
Trashing Shatner's and Nimoy's acting shows you're really sophisticated, one of the in-crowd. Like EVERYbody agrees they can't act, right?
Stop being a mindless sheep. There is nothing wrong with Nimoy's acting, and little to complain about in Shatner's. They're not Alec Guinness, but their performances in the original Startrek were perfectly adequate.
Note that these mirrors appear to serve different files. On the lcarscom.net mirror i got a 22.7mb file for act one, while on an other mirror it gave me a (approx) 2.5mb file. And by the way, that other mirror gave also me a dry 97 bytes/second. Pffiuww.. Havent experienced that since i retuned my oldfasioned isdn modem for a wdsl connection. How about bittorent? Are there generous people here? :D It'll be wordt some extra karma i'm sure.
Hivemind harvest in progress..
The beginning of our fourth mission year brought a new challenge ... perhaps beyond our capabilities. Upon entry into Cyberian space, the efficiency of the Enterprise warp engines was reduced to nearly 1% of their rated capacity. Working together, Science Office Spock and Chief Engineer Scott have determined the physics of the region of space we currently occupy is somehow different from normal space - rapid movement, at least in the conventional sense, is impossible. Originally observed and reported by a member of the Engineering staff, the phenomena has been unofficially named for him.
Recommend commendation for Ensign Sleesh Doot for identification and communication of this phenomena. Let us all hope we are all able to make it out to be able to see he actually gets it.
The little guy just ain't getting it, is he?
Hasn't Kirk been done to death?
This: Startship Exeter is a much better project IMO. New characters. Different ship. Same era as TOS.
Thanks for slashdotting this...now i won't be able to downnload it until it goes off the mainpage...
Can't be worse than Enterprise.
I refuse to use Windows Media Player, since it's a bloated piece of crap, but I can't play it in any other player. Way to alienate your audience (i.e. geeks) guys.
Make me a friend and I'll mod you up
Well he's right and gets it on a technicality ;)
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
What if you could make new episodes of the original Star Trek, with the same characters, worse acting (believe it or not), better special effects, and lower resolution?
You would never, ever breed.
You might forget for a while having been beaten up for your lunch money as a kid.
You get to wear for a little while, clothes more fashionable than anything else you ever wear. (Them ST uniforms is sharp!)
Or THIS could happen
The next time someone posts a link to a video instead of each and everyone trying to get the files and slashdotting the server in the process we do the following: Everyone flips a coin 10 times. The lucky guys (1 in 1024) whose coin flips all come up head actually go and download the files. Whose who got the files seed a .torrent.
No Slashdotting => happy slashdot crowd!
For playback of files this size, XVID cuts the mustard on the quality/compression tradeoff just as well; only everyone gets to watch it. (even with lower spec hardware)
:/
I'll just cower in the corner know while I get flamed for even suggesting a FOSS codec 'cuts the mustard'
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
Although their work is not up to the quality of Paramount's production, I want to congratulate them for chasing and finally realizing their dream. Keep up the good work, guys! and don't be disappointed because of any negative comments out there!
I think that only teams like them can offer something new and innovative...big companies are locked onto money chase. These guys can do anything, as long as they are doing it for hobby.
I haven't seen it yet, but reading their message board it sounds like there's a booboo. In the chess game Kirk and Spock may both be moving WHITE peices.
Or maybe it's just Kirk pulling a Kobayashi Maru.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
"Star Trek DS9: "To boldly go... no where. We're on a freaking space station people. We stay stationary, people... that's our job - to be dull!"
I was about to write a 3 paragraph rant about how you're wrong about DS9. But I stopped for a moment and thought "why take it seriously?"
Well this is a bit of a dilemma. Am I a nerd for initially wanting to write that pointless rebuttal, or did I escape being a nerd by thinking "eh it's just a show, so what?"
"Derp de derp."
"Yeah but Star Trek had an interracial kiss before the soaps :)"
You're talking about Dax and Worf, right?
"Derp de derp."
Nope, Data and Geordi.
Actually it's been pointed out that in terms of different species, Star Trek is kind of racist--there's not a whole lot of diversity among Klingons or Romulans for example. Of course this is probably due to their allegorical origins.
English is easier said than done.
I've been thinking about this since stumbling across it (and downloading it before submitting it to Slashdot).
What's really cool about this is that, as promised, the low price of quality digital video equipment and computer editing is really letting people chase their passions in this way, and the low cost distribution of the Internet is letting
That's really cool. All the snide comments about Trek creativity that some readers would undoubtable make aside, perhaps the promise of a creative renaissance in video fiction can actually be fulfilled. It doesn't matter if 99% is crap, a higher volume means more great stuff being created and it just becomes a matter of finding the great stuff.
May a thousand flowers bloom. Times a thousand.
"It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
Shatner was making a living as a stage and television actor long before he did Trek. You don't get callbacks for Shakespeare if you suck. With ST:TOS he wasn't exactly getting Shakespeare-quality scripts to work with...
Freedom: "I won't!"
Yeah, and Star Wars Episode II was racist because the Maori actor playing Jango Fett looked both very "Arab" and very "latino/mexican."
I dunno, I haven't seen it yet. Does it have nazis in it? Then it would at least tie Enterprise in terms of suckiness...
For too long Star Trek, the most important series in Geek history, has had second class status to Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings and even The Matrix. Those series has their own topics. Star Trek deserves better. Join the others who have signed the petition to give Star Trek a topic on Slashdot.
Just in case any die hard fans didn't watch before they posted.
That's the [Real] John Winston from the [Original] series there.
Some [Red Shirts] just never die, and get promoted to Captain.
Kudo's Yeah!!!
...a book with a similar title, consisting of stories written for TOS by the fans themselves, especially selected for the compilation because they were consistent with the ST universe?
;-)
Regardless, I WOULD LOVE seeing an episode similar to one of the written stories where the cast appears in the ST universe while the real Kirk, SPock, and Bones wind up on the 20th century studio set...
WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
Absolutely incredible. We now have the phenomenon of two competing, non-Paramount reincarnations of "TOS style" in production at the same time.
I don't know if this will be worth watching. Unless Kirk is going to be gooing up sexy alien women in a decontamination chamber...I'm sticking with Enterprise.
"Scotty! We.. .. ah, fuck it. Let's burn the set down for the insurance money and go to Denny's."
DS9 had the most human stories of all, and is in many ways the most original of all the shows following TOS. The scripts were terrific: well written and thought provoking; and the acting was most of the time really quite good.
I'm with you -- it's the best of all.
quiquid id est, timeo puellas et oscula dantes.
Isn't this news a tad old? I remember seeing this on /. a few months ago.
I was thinking a Theora+Vorbis encoding would be interesting to compare with (now that Theora I is finalized, it's safe to encode movies in it). But I don't have the video file from which the WMV was made, and transcoding won't show off Theora or Vorbis. Perhaps someone who made the movie will read this and make a Theora+Vorbis encoding (it would be even nicer if it were licensed under a Creative Commons license and packaged with a copy of the applicable license so we know we can legally share it with our friends).
Digital Citizen
Archiving the files together in a package makes it easy for people to share the two together. It's a good idea to package a copy of the applicable license so recipients know what their rights are. Websites come and go, but a text file is easy to read anywhere and very small compared to the size of the movie.
Digital Citizen
Spock: It is illogical, I know of no force in nature which can be so powerful.
Bones: I'm a doctor not a computer geek dammit.
Kirk: Then there is nothing else for it. We have to ...surrender!
later...
The new beings beam abord, they look remarkably human (this is Star Trek), wear jeans and T-Shirts, smell and have long hair in ponytails.
Kirk: Oh my God.
Spock: We welcome our new Slashdot reading overlords.
Starting up a cancled TV show from the 60s is not innovative. Its obsessive and possibly unhealthy.
If you ask the average trekkie why they are so into the show, they typically come up with drivel along the lines of 'the ideals of the federation'. But there are no federation ideals. Being a franchise owned by a major media conglomerate means that the only ideals you can count on from anything or anyone in the show are those which are most likely to make money.
Jherico
What can the average user can do to ensure his security? "Nothing, you're screwed"
You have to admit that the Alien Nazi on Enterprise at least gave the fan dorks something to argue about over the off season. They will be debating about the nazi being or not being a Reman until the 9,323,232 Star Trek series is released.
overnet is a pile of slow crap. it takes literally months to download some files. some files you won't ever get, because so many idiots leave them unfinished. tons of 99% but 1 segment missing crap like that. and they never get completed. ever. i have to wonder if lots of people are doing this on purpose...
winmx etc are much faster and less hassle.
Available for download? Not anymore.
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2. Make lots of money
3. Work within the law
Choose any two.
I watched it, I thought it was great!
:)
It felt authentic, in a way that everything after ST:TNG does not.
It's true, it's rusty. But they seem really comitted, and I think they're going to master this system that they've created.
I just have one major wish:
I really wish the audio were redubbed. Do the shots just using the microphones on the set, and then perform a seperate dubbing session, so that the sounds are clear.
Regardless of whether the audio is improved or not, I'm a dedicated fan now.
I haven't watched a Sci-Fi TV show in about 7 years. But I'm excited about these shows!
No, it's a perfect application for multicast which every PHB network manager conveniently discarded. Why-o-why did multicast die!?? It would have allowed T.V. over the internet...but noooo...every single company controlling the Internet wanted to use unicast because "they" could control the horizontal, and the vertical. So now the amount of traffic increases based non-linearly on how many companies are offering video services. LAME.
Seriously.. tried just downloading the teaser. Mozilla download calculates the download time at 136 hours.
Really, with the increasing power of CGI, it seems within our reach to just recreate the original actors and their original voices, as they were in 1967. We could go on with Capt. Kirk and Mr. Spock for a thousand years, if we like.
This is my sig.
I think I'm showing my age, but aren't the actors on the young side, to be playing the parts of Kirk, Spock, etc? McCoy especially. I mean, I grew up watching the series (and the local NBC station butchering the re-runs by showing them out of sequence), and I always had the impression that Kirk was in his late-thirties (went along with his fast rise to the captaincy). The cast of 5yearmission.com seem to be college age, if that. Chip H.
Anyone here remember what I'm talking about?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Can someone post a bit torrent link for these files?
Dammit Jim, the web server's dead!
Well, if they configured their web server they wouldn't have to screw around like that :)
.WMV files with a content type like 'application/octet-stream' instead of whatever video/* type they default to. This will tell the browser to download it as a file instead of streaming and displaying it. As far as I'm aware MSIE has been respecting content-types with every version after 4.0.
The need to tell their webserver to send
It would seem that many people reading this would make it a forum of right Trek and wrong Trek. There really is no such thing as a right Trek or visa-versa. Every Trek series has had its moments, as every Trek fan would agree. The whole basis of Trek was indeed the vision of Roddenberry, but since Roddenberry's death, the vision has stopped. It is now up to others to decide the direction of the Final Frontier.
The direction chosen seems to be bad at times, but still, they manage to come up with a great story every few episodes, regardless of the series.
I was really disappointed with Enterprise, especially during the second seaon, but the writers have really turned the bad to the better.Voyager had some really GREAT episodes...."The Year of Hell" was awesome, but in contrast, meaningless, as the whole year was erased, ala Dallas. It was still a gripping pair of episodes, regardless.
Janeway was not a bad caption. If fact, she was so modeled after Picard it was obvious. Did you not notice? Look closer!
DS9 had the episode (to mention just one) that had O'Brien serve many years in a prison cell only to find out later he had only been subjected to a few hours of mental "treatment". Scarey stuff, and a real look at our future.
Capt. Picard always had great moments, but none like the episode "The Inner Light" (also the title of a great indian influenced Beatles song). I remember tears coming to my eyes the first time I saw that episode. The soundtrack is amazing!
"Dear Doctor", an Enterprise episode, was perhaps the best so far. They have come a long way since the second season, but "Dear Doctor" stands out in good story telling.That's all........
My wife spoiled Star Trek when she pointed out that Star Trek was misnamed.
DS9 = Star Trek Melrose Space
Voyager = Star Trek Gilligan's Island
Yaknow, when William Gibson writes a story about someone posting video on the net, figuring out what's going on supports a whole novel.
BUT when someone does so in real life, everybody kvetches about the acting.
Hard to believe Slasdotters haven't seen this already, but nobody seems to be saying they have. New Voyages Episode One has been available on the web since January.
I sort of enjoyed it. Yes most of the acting is pretty bad, but the story is very much in the TOS mold, and the sets and effects are very well done. Using the original Star Trek theme and incidental music gave it a nice feel. Nice CG Enterprise too, I thought.
On their site (when it's not horked) they explain their decision to use the original characters and ship rather than create new ones. They see the crew of the original Enterprise as classic characters, like Robin Hood and his men or the Knights of the Round Table, that can be played by different actors and still be appreciated for what they are.
I think that's kind of an interesting point. Television shows are hardly ever redone, but that seems to have changed in the last 10 or 15 years... the Addams Family, the Brady Bunch, Dragnet, Scooby Doo, the Flintstones, Battlestar Galactica... Star Trek was one of the first TV shows to be made into a movie, perhaps The first.
New Voyages could use better acting, but as the original Star Trek cast dies off I think we should try to accept new versions of the old characters.
I guess the server was unlucky enough to be wearing a red uniform.
:)
Looks like the big fake Slashdot Beast just pounded it with a fake looking bolder.
BTW TOS>TNG
(I keed because I keer
Would make it worse. You need really good talent for dubbing. It's hard. Trust me , I know what I'm talking about. I'm from germany where all shows and movies are dubbed. And if done cheaply it sucks ass.
Starship Exeter: I like the lighting and design. Some acting is ok other is very bad. Maybe some sponsors relatives had to get a job on the show. Greatest annyoance: It looks like they used VHS or SuperVHS, no DV. And they should have done something in post production to give it more of a film look. As the original was filmed on 16 or 35 mm film.
New Voyages: Brilliant set design, nicely combinated with CGI that tries to recreate the classic look. And they treated their video to more look like film. All in all it best matches the classic series. Feels cheap here and there? Yes, the original did too. Sometimes really felt like watching a never before seen episode of the original show. Which happened for the last time in the seventies when I watched in in my payamas before going to bed.
Final Frontier: Good story, best acting, overall good look, but with all the bluescreen stuff it got the look of movie sequences in a Star Trek game. Anyone remembers Starfleet Academy?
Which gives me an idea which is pretty obvious: How about a fan based effort about Starfleet Academy? You could give it a classic look but also could make your own designs. It would make perfect sense to use young actors. Still you could use the classic characters. IIRC Paramount thought about that concept before.
What I really don't get: Why not use a format that will play on every machine (standalone DVD players included) and LOOK GOOD FFS? Sorenson QuickTime, WMV ... Someone please give them some hours of video encoding 101. (Grumbel ...) No, size shouldn't matter. There are distribution systems that work perfectly fine for big files, like BitTorrent and donkey/overnet.
Would be a nice thing if those projects would join their efforts.
In the end all those shows are good enough to make me want to watch more of them. Which is more than the first season of "Enterprise" achieved for me.
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I'm getting some 400KBps peaks
Khan is actually a title used in many asian languages, sort of like "sir" in English. Here's a definition.
The "kh" has a special pronunciation, as per this page: 'occurs in Hebrew and Arabic, in the German pronunciation of Nacht, or in the Scottish pronunciation of "Loch" (a voiceless velar fricative).' or the Dutch pronunciation of G in Gronigen.
But as is unfortunately the case too often, this is all lost on the average American.
-hadohk
You'll probably have to get the MST3K version, but that's okay; it's the only way it's watchable.
Blame Jimmy Stewart, I suppose. But, his stuttering is so intertwined with his folksy, everyman style of acting that it's impossible to imagine him without it. The rest are just pale imitations.
quiquid id est, timeo puellas et oscula dantes.
In this factual catagory, Hidden Frontier beats them ALL. I guess I am still too plagued with the such radical & unfortunate notions of videos containing respectable plots, acting and camera work to care about such farcical video crap. The megalomania of the crew gets BIGGER and BIGGER in reverse order to how this horrid puny video just seems to get WORSE and WORSE with every outing.
Re:*WORSE* acting??? Hidden Frontier WINS! In this factual catagory, Hidden Frontier beats them ALL. I guess I am still too plagued with the such radical & unfortunate notions of videos containing respectable plots, acting and camera work to care about such farcical video crap. The megalomania of the crew gets BIGGER and BIGGER in reverse order to how this horrid puny video just seems to get WORSE and WORSE with every outing. For the funny, sad, unethical Jerry Springer side of Hidden Frontier read check out this BBS discussion, page 8, "HF truth police" at: http://svortex.tiimipeli.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t =2&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105