Not quite the same but some hooligan in my town filled his "water gat" up with vegetation killer and went around writing things on people's lawns. It was a pretty bad thing to do but it was fairly funny to see a very large "F*&^" in the yard in front of a $300,000+ house. He pretty much destroyed all of the lawns in one of the nicer parts of town. What do you do when that happens? Just leave a big "F*&^" in your lawn? Do you just dig up the dead parts and leave it spelled out in the dirt where you dug it up? You pretty much have to redo the whole lawn and that's a nontrivial task if you've got a really large lawn. We wrote remarkably clearly for making words and letters as big as he did... I've always wondered how he did that.
Except the warning words won't be as mundane. They simply aren't interested in busting kiddieporn traffikers and druggies. That stuff is already remarkably easy to come by out in the open on the internet. The words of interest will be ones like "bomb" and "president" and "revolution" and "guns"
I don't want to sound like some wacko but big brother doesn't give a damn if you're a kink or freak or if your ideas are different, they give a damn when your ideas are against them or potentially against them.
E-Trade is probably the ones at fault here, just trying to cover their butt in a world where there are class action lawsuits because stocks didn't do as well as people thought they should have. Not entirely blameable but it's distressing, the people redhat wanted to let buy the stock will most likely not be involved in the IPO deal it makes the whole thing look like a sham and it's worse now that people have opened e-trade accounts that they may only be interested in for this stock, I wouldn't pay any fees or commisions to E-Trade if you opened an account and they wouldn't let you trade, make noise about that and make noise to Redhat if they expect you to pay for anything. About as good as they can do will be to multiply the IPO stock prive by 5 and place a market order for it at that price. (and then hope it's not a super success out of the gate)
Redhat can by a substantial amount of the stock on their own though and then sell it directly or give it to whomever they choose. Or they could just not sell a large amount of it initially and then do what they wish with it. It's more work for Redhat but they can sell it as cheaply as they wish and brokerage commisions can be avoided. It they are really serious about giving stock to hackers, which would be a really cool thing to do, they can make it happen. Not many companies are willing to bend that far over like that though.
The gesture was kind and Redhat should be respected for it. The old addage is true, it takes money to make money and unfortunately a lot of hackers aren't rich.
I've been using it, albeit not an obscenely large amount. I just don't need to create a lot of big documents or spreadsheets...
I've been fairly happy with it, it pops up pretty quickly on my computer and it seems to run okay, how big does a document need to be before it really starts to slow down or is it always slow? I've run it on a p2-300 (128MB) and a p3-450 (256MB) and it ran acceptably on both, or at least I thought it was acceptable. Fonts good look better though.
My biggest problem is that it is such an MS Office knock-off. There doesn't appear to be a lot of original thinking in the product. I've never really been fond of office, I really liked Ami Pro as a word processor back in the day, it was lean and mean, not a lot of complicated buttons and stuff.
Sun buying them might be good if sun is committed to the product. They could really put out a good office competitor.
I heard they have some sort of routine that all the employees go through before work everyday, it includes all singing some sort of song... Not sure if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised. Can you imagine them asking some gen-Xer to sing a song before work? I'd slap that silly smile off my boss' face and go get a different job. I don't recall seeing any young people helping consumers select a cart at the door either, are they agist or something?
It looks cool enough, but it's not a real power lounger like the aura chair ("chair" probably isn't right, it's more like an "environment") is. http://www.poetictech.com/aura/aura.html
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In that box in the middle of the page they show pictures of about 6 X rocket planes. 3 or 4 or "classified." What do you think they are about?
no no no, wait until you get cancer (probably from your computer monitor) and then blame it on your proximity to the downlink site.. After they get the infrastructure in place, running that operation will be a freeby, I'm guess the space power company is going to be worth billions and billions after they pay off the initial investment. It's the American way to sue a company who does something like that for some obscene amount of money.
I think there is moderation bias, once a post has got a 2, it's much easier for it to get a 3 or a 4 or 5, getting that initial 2 can be tough though.
I don't think that much of the bias is based on topic though. I have yet to see a really informative post moderated down, I've seen them not get that 2 but I haven't seen any animosity towards some subjects. There is a difference.
If a post is pro-Linux or pro-GNU or pro-Be or pro-BSD, I generally don't see them being informative or cream of the crop type posts. The truly informative ones don't have a bias towards a product. there will naturally be bias posts that are full of information though and since there are far more linux heads here they will more be promoted more often, I don't think that is always bias towards the products though. Of course I don't read all the posts so I don't know, if you could post some links to articles which were moderated down it could be useful, send them to Rob and maybe he can weed out the bad moderators.
Why didn't they revamp the acronym to be Common Object Brokering of Resources Architecture so it could be COBRA, that's a lot more flashy and cool sounding. Then there would be all these cool products called mongoose, venom, fang, mamba, viper, garter, side winder, cotton mouth, riki tiki tavi, etc.. I think the whole snake theme would make it much more popular. I think that's one of the big differences between free projects and non-free projects, when given the choice the free guys will always pick the cool name.
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Amen to that.. It works for other things than code also. Women, money, family problems, just about all problems can be solved by lifting a ton or too or working out until exhaustion.
It was funny to read, it sounds like some Canadians have been working on this feat for some time and this pacman genius decides to just show up and do it, for the motherland. There was an air of seriousness to it all, planning was involved.
"I usually like to do a few marathon gaming sessions building up before the big day, then I don't play any games for two days and on the first day off I take some herbal body clensing supplement to clean the pipes and get the bad mojo out of my system then I carbo load all day the day before. The morning before, I go to a special place out doors that only I know about and sit on a rock on top of a mountain where I meditate (primordial sound) and ask for enlightenment and guidance on the tough levels once my meditation is done I lock my self in a dark room and listen to Rage Against the Machine cranked up to 11 to get a little pumped. I play a few quick speed rounds of super mario brothers to loosen up and then I go to the arcade...sure it's a lot of preparation but this is for America..."
It would be far more valuble to debunk bad banchmarks and make the world realize how much fraud (or at least close to it) go on in them.
OSes are all about compromise, there are always ways to make things a little faster if you're willing to compromise reliabilty or stability. (I think MacOSX got bit by that bug with there little web bench problem not so long ago)
How many record setting benchmark configurations are good for real world usage? Do we really want development effort going in to that? I'd rather have a benchmark loser that is rock solid all the time. There are certainly cases where it makes sense though, I think mindcraft revealed some very real problems that need to be addressed but I don't think it should be our norm.
Maybe i'm just naive, but I'm a pretty serious athelete and until recently I've really lived in my own little world where the good atheletes are clean. I've done a couple of road cycle races and it is insane at which level winning becomes important enough for atheletes to take drugs. I really thought it was only a problem in the elite ranks for some time but highschool kids are injecting EPO and doping.
When are hackers going to take up this delightful habbit? There are already a significant number of pot smokers amongst us, I think that's mostly just a social thing. Nootropics have been popular in some circles for a long time, I've never associated them with hackers since they are mostly just myths. Combine our love of caffine with the the demand for higher performance and we've got a community ripe for drugs. I've never taken EPO or doped but if you've got a marathon session coming up, doping and increasing the red blood count while injesting a good batch of some "high octane" caffinated beverage could produce better effects, you'd be perked up and you'd have more physical energy and energy to think with.
I've also known bikers who, for the final kick, take a couple shots of some triple strength espressor with a lot sugar (glucose) in it and a bit of rum "to take the edge off" After a really good solid caffine binge I tend to get a little twitchy, the rum sounds like a good idea, anyone do that? What you really want is alertness but you don't want that hyper caffinated feel.
Any ginko users? Have you noticed any difference in your mental stimulation? The only herbs I've really noticed a difference with is kava kava and St. John's wort, both of which are very calming and relaxing, a good cup of Celestial Seasonings Tension Tamer Plus works wonders after a particularly bad day at work. I've taken ginko before but never noticed any difference, I don't take anything regularly though. I'd imagine that echinecia, ginseng, ginko blends on a regular basis and then some doping a few days before combined with a highly caffinated beverage with a little rum might be about the optimal drug induced hacking session without getting it to really serious stuff. Not that I would encourage that but it would be interesting to know if you ever need that extra "punch" for something really important (like when WWIII breaks out and the need *me* to write the new code to control the bombs or something, I sacrifice my body a little for that job...)
This is terrible news, even if it is just a rumor. I hope it isn't true because mozilla is finally starting to take an interesting shape.
This should be a learning experience though. I don't think it is an opensource flaw so much as a netscape or mozilla flaw.
It's been mentioned before, but it wouldn't compile at first. That is and was frustrating. Something that impresses me with most OSS/Free software is the remarkable clean build process. Mozilla didn't have that for a long time. I was very amped to start making tweaks but I didn't have the time to figure it all out, I just wanted "configure;make" like most other projects have. Maybe that was a poor expectation on my part, but I don't think so.
Mozilla quickly splintered into countless groups and projects. The ports were easy enough to sort out but some of the other projects really confused me at the time. Again, maybe I had poor expectations but I've got a full time job and at best mozilla was going to be a spare time activity for me, I wasn't really motivated to figure out what was what and since I couldn't readily compile a lot of code...
There were radical design shifts, I'm not sure where this came from. I agree with it and I think most of the community likes the idea of a mozilla component being available and componentizing the product but this is radically different from what they put out. Clear leadership is needed for that. I still don't know who's baby it is. I still don't know which baby it is that I want to jump in with, or are they not splintered any more? I've got things I would still like to do, I'd love to see GNOME and KDE components made out of it.. I kind of think Netscape had hoped to open it up and the world would just sort of know what to do and in 3 months there would be this radically different product. The code didn't compile and we were heading off into the night on a runaway train.
Netscape really cut it loose after a short time, am I the only one who thinks Communcator 5 is going to be very different from mozilla? After it got off to a slow start, reading the newsgroups and listening to the "leaders" made it sound like the project was just floundering. I never felt like netscape was in on the project. I felt like they didn't see what they wanted in a few weeks and then bailed.
Then the PR fizzled. Mozilla now is looking impressive. It's looking like a product, it's still rough and there is a lot of work to be done but there are areas to work on and things to improve and ideas to incorporate. I think a lot of us have dismissed it by now though. Some how the PR machine needs to generate that excitement again. We need some goals and some plans and wishlists, what are we aiming at, what needs aren't we filling? How can it be better? Someone will have to fork the code when mozilla get's to m8 or m9 and start working on a "new project" it will start to take off more then.
The need isn't there. NS has been working very nicely for me. If I was browserless I'd be more inclined to perform miracles to make mozilla happen. At this point it's just a war of virtue. NS gave their code away and won my heart over, I had no problem using communicator because netscape "did the good thing"
I hope ESR makes some addendums to C&B, I also hope that the mozilla projects continues on. I think it is finally on a good track, it just needs to pick up some passengers and gain some speed.
I don't know about combining the results but I think this will be a good thing for fitting Linux into the various markets where it get's used. Some filesystems will be better at somethings than others.
I respect both of them, RMS more than ESR, but that's irrelevent. I've always thought of RMS as an asset to the movement, even when people don't understand him or when he is abrasive. ESR has puzzled me a few times, there are definitely times when he is less motivated by the movement and far more motivated by his own ego and fame. At any given time he might not be an asset to the movement.
What I don't like is the presumption that OSS/Free software/etc. has taken off just recently and not sooner because of RMS. It's really only been a couple years where there has been a solid free kernel and some high quality nice looking apps. It's only been recently that the internet has enabled collaboration on the worldwide level, cheaply enough that everyone can afford it. It's also only been recently that internet servers have been in such demand that there is a real market need for a cheap, open, reliable UNIX like OS on a grand scale. Lot's of things went right all at the same time and because of it there are millions of GNU/Linux users. I don't think it has anything to do with RMS's behavior or with RMS's advocacy, or the ESR.
ESR indirectly takes credit for a phenomena that he didn't cause. If he wants to attack RMS on the issues, then go for it, he can't win. If he wants to bollster his ego (which he has already demonstrated a knack for) then do that but these correlation arguments are pointless.
It sounds pretty much like what I would have expected. MS certainly isn't going to change their ways, there are some fiesty msofties (as there are at every company), most people didn't really get it at the time. There also appears to be some idiots at MS who will never "get it," big surprise, they are just like every other company.
I give MS credit for doing it, it shows that they are worried and they are trying to fight it. This isn't a really new thing though, just a radical departure from 18 months ago but they've already acknowledged that GNU/Linux and OSS is a threat. They appear to be trying to figure it out, which is good, they want to defeat the beast by understanding the beast. Who knows how many will convert in that process. There are already microsoft people and there are definitely characteristics that make you fight in there better. You can't be too entrepreneurial or else you'd start your own company, you have to be motivated largely by money, over all quality of life doesn't seem to be a big issue (it's just a money thing to most of them,) you have to be smart and you have to think you're among the best (even if you aren't) {end of huge generalization mode} There are definitely people at MS (I worked with a bunch when I worked there) who will never understand OSS, they just can't. There is also a large group of people who are intelligent to understand it but could never relate to it, they will probably think of OSS hackers as the country bumpkins (or some other kind of eccentrics) of the software industry and whether or not they can come up with a plan to defeat them will be interesting to see. Then there will also be a group which will probably remain small and they will get it and understand it and most likely end up embracing it, I could eventually see that becoming a factor in termination.
You have to realize that in the 70's there was a whole community of computer hounds and it was a lot like the OSS ocmmunity is today. Bill Gates was an outcast from that and he was against it, he was big on the whole issue of selling software, it was always about money to him. That's the core culture of the company, as long as they take their ques from billg they will be purely a money oriented company. That's what companies are by nature but I think the playing field is changing in ways that they aren't prepared for, the real money always has been in service (IBM makes as much on software as MS does and IBM sells far fewer copies, it's the service and the loyalties associated with it) You throw ideology and fun into the mix and it only makes more sense.
I imagine those working on the win2000 team may be starting to feel the pressure. It's not quite a make or break product but it's the first time in quite a while where MS has lost media support and there is another product standing not in their path but in their way. I can understand a few of them lashing out, I just hope that they are ready to deliver for their sake because it's only going to get worse if win2000 isN'T there.
I have this cool shirt from A-Basin. It's an all black mock turtle and right on the jugular (so it's kind of off to the side) in green letters "Vail Sucks"
I suggest we change the words to "Slashdot.org" It's a very stylish shirt, made of a thin cotton fabric which keeps you warm in winter and cool to termperate in the summer (as long as you stay out of the sun, it is black)
Throw on some slacks and a jacket and you're ready for the ladies...
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Not quite the same but some hooligan in my town filled his "water gat" up with vegetation killer and went around writing things on people's lawns. It was a pretty bad thing to do but it was fairly funny to see a very large "F*&^" in the yard in front of a $300,000+ house. He pretty much destroyed all of the lawns in one of the nicer parts of town. What do you do when that happens? Just leave a big "F*&^" in your lawn? Do you just dig up the dead parts and leave it spelled out in the dirt where you dug it up? You pretty much have to redo the whole lawn and that's a nontrivial task if you've got a really large lawn. We wrote remarkably clearly for making words and letters as big as he did... I've always wondered how he did that.
I don't want to sound like some wacko but big brother doesn't give a damn if you're a kink or freak or if your ideas are different, they give a damn when your ideas are against them or potentially against them.
Redhat can by a substantial amount of the stock on their own though and then sell it directly or give it to whomever they choose. Or they could just not sell a large amount of it initially and then do what they wish with it. It's more work for Redhat but they can sell it as cheaply as they wish and brokerage commisions can be avoided. It they are really serious about giving stock to hackers, which would be a really cool thing to do, they can make it happen. Not many companies are willing to bend that far over like that though.
The gesture was kind and Redhat should be respected for it. The old addage is true, it takes money to make money and unfortunately a lot of hackers aren't rich.
I've been fairly happy with it, it pops up pretty quickly on my computer and it seems to run okay, how big does a document need to be before it really starts to slow down or is it always slow? I've run it on a p2-300 (128MB) and a p3-450 (256MB) and it ran acceptably on both, or at least I thought it was acceptable. Fonts good look better though.
My biggest problem is that it is such an MS Office knock-off. There doesn't appear to be a lot of original thinking in the product. I've never really been fond of office, I really liked Ami Pro as a word processor back in the day, it was lean and mean, not a lot of complicated buttons and stuff.
Sun buying them might be good if sun is committed to the product. They could really put out a good office competitor.
I heard they have some sort of routine that all the employees go through before work everyday, it includes all singing some sort of song... Not sure if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised. Can you imagine them asking some gen-Xer to sing a song before work? I'd slap that silly smile off my boss' face and go get a different job. I don't recall seeing any young people helping consumers select a cart at the door either, are they agist or something?
It looks cool enough, but it's not a real power lounger like the aura chair ("chair" probably isn't right, it's more like an "environment") is. http://www.poetictech.com/aura/aura.html
Perhaps some of that area 51 aurora stuff?
no no no, wait until you get cancer (probably from your computer monitor) and then blame it on your proximity to the downlink site.. After they get the infrastructure in place, running that operation will be a freeby, I'm guess the space power company is going to be worth billions and billions after they pay off the initial investment. It's the American way to sue a company who does something like that for some obscene amount of money.
I don't think that much of the bias is based on topic though. I have yet to see a really informative post moderated down, I've seen them not get that 2 but I haven't seen any animosity towards some subjects. There is a difference.
If a post is pro-Linux or pro-GNU or pro-Be or pro-BSD, I generally don't see them being informative or cream of the crop type posts. The truly informative ones don't have a bias towards a product. there will naturally be bias posts that are full of information though and since there are far more linux heads here they will more be promoted more often, I don't think that is always bias towards the products though. Of course I don't read all the posts so I don't know, if you could post some links to articles which were moderated down it could be useful, send them to Rob and maybe he can weed out the bad moderators.
Why didn't they revamp the acronym to be Common Object Brokering of Resources Architecture so it could be COBRA, that's a lot more flashy and cool sounding. Then there would be all these cool products called mongoose, venom, fang, mamba, viper, garter, side winder, cotton mouth, riki tiki tavi, etc.. I think the whole snake theme would make it much more popular. I think that's one of the big differences between free projects and non-free projects, when given the choice the free guys will always pick the cool name.
Problems get solved and you feel 10 times better.
"I usually like to do a few marathon gaming sessions building up before the big day, then I don't play any games for two days and on the first day off I take some herbal body clensing supplement to clean the pipes and get the bad mojo out of my system then I carbo load all day the day before. The morning before, I go to a special place out doors that only I know about and sit on a rock on top of a mountain where I meditate (primordial sound) and ask for enlightenment and guidance on the tough levels once my meditation is done I lock my self in a dark room and listen to Rage Against the Machine cranked up to 11 to get a little pumped. I play a few quick speed rounds of super mario brothers to loosen up and then I go to the arcade...sure it's a lot of preparation but this is for America..."
OSes are all about compromise, there are always ways to make things a little faster if you're willing to compromise reliabilty or stability. (I think MacOSX got bit by that bug with there little web bench problem not so long ago)
How many record setting benchmark configurations are good for real world usage? Do we really want development effort going in to that? I'd rather have a benchmark loser that is rock solid all the time. There are certainly cases where it makes sense though, I think mindcraft revealed some very real problems that need to be addressed but I don't think it should be our norm.
I'm gonna miss it.
When are hackers going to take up this delightful habbit? There are already a significant number of pot smokers amongst us, I think that's mostly just a social thing. Nootropics have been popular in some circles for a long time, I've never associated them with hackers since they are mostly just myths. Combine our love of caffine with the the demand for higher performance and we've got a community ripe for drugs. I've never taken EPO or doped but if you've got a marathon session coming up, doping and increasing the red blood count while injesting a good batch of some "high octane" caffinated beverage could produce better effects, you'd be perked up and you'd have more physical energy and energy to think with.
I've also known bikers who, for the final kick, take a couple shots of some triple strength espressor with a lot sugar (glucose) in it and a bit of rum "to take the edge off" After a really good solid caffine binge I tend to get a little twitchy, the rum sounds like a good idea, anyone do that? What you really want is alertness but you don't want that hyper caffinated feel.
Any ginko users? Have you noticed any difference in your mental stimulation? The only herbs I've really noticed a difference with is kava kava and St. John's wort, both of which are very calming and relaxing, a good cup of Celestial Seasonings Tension Tamer Plus works wonders after a particularly bad day at work. I've taken ginko before but never noticed any difference, I don't take anything regularly though. I'd imagine that echinecia, ginseng, ginko blends on a regular basis and then some doping a few days before combined with a highly caffinated beverage with a little rum might be about the optimal drug induced hacking session without getting it to really serious stuff. Not that I would encourage that but it would be interesting to know if you ever need that extra "punch" for something really important (like when WWIII breaks out and the need *me* to write the new code to control the bombs or something, I sacrifice my body a little for that job...)
This should be a learning experience though. I don't think it is an opensource flaw so much as a netscape or mozilla flaw.
- It's been mentioned before, but it wouldn't compile at first. That is and was frustrating. Something that impresses me with most OSS/Free software is the remarkable clean build process. Mozilla didn't have that for a long time. I was very amped to start making tweaks but I didn't have the time to figure it all out, I just wanted "configure;make" like most other projects have. Maybe that was a poor expectation on my part, but I don't think so.
- Mozilla quickly splintered into countless groups and projects. The ports were easy enough to sort out but some of the other projects really confused me at the time. Again, maybe I had poor expectations but I've got a full time job and at best mozilla was going to be a spare time activity for me, I wasn't really motivated to figure out what was what and since I couldn't readily compile a lot of code...
- There were radical design shifts, I'm not sure where this came from. I agree with it and I think most of the community likes the idea of a mozilla component being available and componentizing the product but this is radically different from what they put out. Clear leadership is needed for that. I still don't know who's baby it is. I still don't know which baby it is that I want to jump in with, or are they not splintered any more? I've got things I would still like to do, I'd love to see GNOME and KDE components made out of it.. I kind of think Netscape had hoped to open it up and the world would just sort of know what to do and in 3 months there would be this radically different product. The code didn't compile and we were heading off into the night on a runaway train.
- Netscape really cut it loose after a short time, am I the only one who thinks Communcator 5 is going to be very different from mozilla? After it got off to a slow start, reading the newsgroups and listening to the "leaders" made it sound like the project was just floundering. I never felt like netscape was in on the project. I felt like they didn't see what they wanted in a few weeks and then bailed.
- Then the PR fizzled. Mozilla now is looking impressive. It's looking like a product, it's still rough and there is a lot of work to be done but there are areas to work on and things to improve and ideas to incorporate. I think a lot of us have dismissed it by now though. Some how the PR machine needs to generate that excitement again. We need some goals and some plans and wishlists, what are we aiming at, what needs aren't we filling? How can it be better? Someone will have to fork the code when mozilla get's to m8 or m9 and start working on a "new project" it will start to take off more then.
- The need isn't there. NS has been working very nicely for me. If I was browserless I'd be more inclined to perform miracles to make mozilla happen. At this point it's just a war of virtue. NS gave their code away and won my heart over, I had no problem using communicator because netscape "did the good thing"
I hope ESR makes some addendums to C&B, I also hope that the mozilla projects continues on. I think it is finally on a good track, it just needs to pick up some passengers and gain some speed.I don't know about combining the results but I think this will be a good thing for fitting Linux into the various markets where it get's used. Some filesystems will be better at somethings than others.
What I don't like is the presumption that OSS/Free software/etc. has taken off just recently and not sooner because of RMS. It's really only been a couple years where there has been a solid free kernel and some high quality nice looking apps. It's only been recently that the internet has enabled collaboration on the worldwide level, cheaply enough that everyone can afford it. It's also only been recently that internet servers have been in such demand that there is a real market need for a cheap, open, reliable UNIX like OS on a grand scale. Lot's of things went right all at the same time and because of it there are millions of GNU/Linux users. I don't think it has anything to do with RMS's behavior or with RMS's advocacy, or the ESR.
ESR indirectly takes credit for a phenomena that he didn't cause. If he wants to attack RMS on the issues, then go for it, he can't win. If he wants to bollster his ego (which he has already demonstrated a knack for) then do that but these correlation arguments are pointless.
What if they won't publish their DTD or they won't let use use it?
I give MS credit for doing it, it shows that they are worried and they are trying to fight it. This isn't a really new thing though, just a radical departure from 18 months ago but they've already acknowledged that GNU/Linux and OSS is a threat. They appear to be trying to figure it out, which is good, they want to defeat the beast by understanding the beast. Who knows how many will convert in that process. There are already microsoft people and there are definitely characteristics that make you fight in there better. You can't be too entrepreneurial or else you'd start your own company, you have to be motivated largely by money, over all quality of life doesn't seem to be a big issue (it's just a money thing to most of them,) you have to be smart and you have to think you're among the best (even if you aren't) {end of huge generalization mode} There are definitely people at MS (I worked with a bunch when I worked there) who will never understand OSS, they just can't. There is also a large group of people who are intelligent to understand it but could never relate to it, they will probably think of OSS hackers as the country bumpkins (or some other kind of eccentrics) of the software industry and whether or not they can come up with a plan to defeat them will be interesting to see. Then there will also be a group which will probably remain small and they will get it and understand it and most likely end up embracing it, I could eventually see that becoming a factor in termination.
You have to realize that in the 70's there was a whole community of computer hounds and it was a lot like the OSS ocmmunity is today. Bill Gates was an outcast from that and he was against it, he was big on the whole issue of selling software, it was always about money to him. That's the core culture of the company, as long as they take their ques from billg they will be purely a money oriented company. That's what companies are by nature but I think the playing field is changing in ways that they aren't prepared for, the real money always has been in service (IBM makes as much on software as MS does and IBM sells far fewer copies, it's the service and the loyalties associated with it) You throw ideology and fun into the mix and it only makes more sense.
I imagine those working on the win2000 team may be starting to feel the pressure. It's not quite a make or break product but it's the first time in quite a while where MS has lost media support and there is another product standing not in their path but in their way. I can understand a few of them lashing out, I just hope that they are ready to deliver for their sake because it's only going to get worse if win2000 isN'T there.
Who cares how long it takes to boot?
I suggest we change the words to "Slashdot.org" It's a very stylish shirt, made of a thin cotton fabric which keeps you warm in winter and cool to termperate in the summer (as long as you stay out of the sun, it is black)
Throw on some slacks and a jacket and you're ready for the ladies...
I'm guessing those are enigma wheels.
That sounds really silly. Look past the licensing issues. I think that is what the original troller was doing. What's more important that freedom?
Yes it is. See where it says "code" or the left hand side of your screen?