The problem is you have to buy a mac to get macos and lose all your good games and sech. Linux/BSD should go this route. I was thinking that it was more like the way Macs handle the GUI, which, while butt-nasty with MacOS 9 and earlier, is pretty nice with the current buggy MacOS X. Macs approach unix and unix approaches the few good things about the Mac. In the middle will, perhaps, be Berlin - better than anything on either.
OK, you got me. I looked at the html source and see nothing nefarious. Looks like html to me. Actually, there isn't much to it. So, what is the "hostile code"?
I just wish it would come along faster. Berlin promises to be the first really modern graphics server/interface on linux/unix. X is nice for a lot of reasons but it sure would be nice to switch to a finished Berlin.
I've checked on the site from time-to-time for a couple years (it IS moving slow) but it really shows promise. I would LOVE for 1 cm or 1 inch on the screen to really mean 1 cm or 1 inch, period. Screw pixels. Make it match what gets printed by a berlin-aware app (modified gimp?) and you really have something. True-sized graphics editing onscreen. Measure with a ruler and it means what it means on the screen and when you print it.
The true alpha transparency is also really cool. Just don't trash my kde theme. The basic Berlin look right now is very motif-ish (yech!). I like my qt-ish look and friggin' HATE motif/lestif. They do indicate true theming on the way, however, so there is hope.
The thing is, I get this problem when I try to connect to the http://news.bbc.co.uk site from home and at school. Different networks, different DNS's. As soon as I enter the ip address - connection successful.
On rare occassions I'll be suprised and actually get through via the url, but it is rare.
Hope I'm not too late to this discussion to get an answer...
Lately, my mailbox has been getting hit heavily with spam. At first, using kmail, I simply setup filters to bounce any mail deemed as spam (the usual suspects containing "!!!","diet", "money", "fast", etc). It turns out that most of the crap I was getting had false email addresses on them so instead of bouncing properly, my inbox began filling with failed delivery messages.
Question: with this nospam app, if the email address is bogus, don't you stand the chance filling your inbox with just as many failure to deliver notices as spam? Since the nospam app sends off a complaint message to the sender, if the sender email is bogus, you will get a failed delivery notice for every spam that contains a bogus email. How do you protect against that?
I ended up going with the app "ricochet" which automatically sends a complaint letter to the contact emails appropriate for the origin of the spam, regardless of the bogus email. Hopefully, the ISPs so notified will then take action.
You know, just about every damn time I try to connect to the BBC site via slashdot (including with this story) it doesn't work. There appears to be something REALLY dicked about a lot of DNS servers. I suggest that from now on, instead of linking to the bbc URL you guys use the IP address, which always works.
MOST of the time the BBC url is broken and gives an IMMEDIATE "unknown host" message. Type in the IP and viola! Instant connection.
Never heard of NOW until now. Went over to the Progeny website to read about a dead project. Not much information there, just a bunch about how it is on indefinite hold. I had to read through a bunch of slashdot postings to finally find a description of it. Sounds good and would be a Good Thing (tm) for linux. Too bad it's sacked.
Then I see all this stuff about how great Progeny is. Took a look at the specs...kernel-2.2.18?! XFree86-4.0.3?! Sheesh. Got to go way back and get THAT! Lousy support for my video card, dusty old kernel with no connection to the modern era. OLD kde and gnome. Yep, best way to show off the good stuff in linux is to provide the OLD stuff that lacked a lot of features and capabilities.
Not wanting to be at the cutting edge of kernels and XFree is one thing, but 2.2.18? Give me a frickin' break. KDE2? Huh? Please tell me that isn't 2.0 or 2.1.
What do you mean by "be wary of integrated graphics, next time you go shopping for a laptop"? Do you mean simply check what integrated chip is used? That must be it because the wording implies that one has a choice to go with a NON-integrated graphics laptop and, of course, there is no such animal.
Truer words were never said. I played HL through to the end without a hitch under wine. I failed at the VERY end just like I did when I first played it under doze...
How the f*ck do you beat that last giant floating baby? I invariably "beat" 'im, his head split open like a ripe banana, but by that point I am nearly out (or am out) of ammo of any kind. I once jumped over and landed on his split-open head, managed to stay atop for hours (I left the computer to do other things) with a book holding down my ctrl key so the character would just stay there and beat the crap out of the baby's split-open head with the crobar. Didn't work.
That's absolutely true. M$ needs for every user to have a uniformly bad experience. If SOME users get a better experience by having a mutliboot system with other OSes on their system, those without will be upset and it will be M$ that suffers.
As long as the unwashed masses ALL have the same, dull, bad user experience then none will come to the realization that there ARE better/other options.
Err...a government agency, be it the civil, judicial, or military components are all perfectly within their rights to determine what software goes on government computers. No different in any other country.
As a matter of fact, I would strongly argue that any democratic government should ONLY use OSS systems. Period. Why? Well, because they serve ALL the people, not just those running Microsnot or MacOS or unix or anything else. All the people regardless of CPU and OS. This means that they cannot ethically use, say, M$ software because it is entirely designed to break connectivity and usability with non-M$ systems. It breaks virtually all proper internet communication standards with the intent of driving all to use only their system. A government should have no place in furthering this endeavor.
A proper democratic government would use ONLY websites designed to be viewed by ANY browser that is capable of understanding STANDARD http. Any government website should ONLY provide reading material that is viewable on ANY system, even without Word on it. It should be in a format viewable by anyone on ANY computer with ANY os.
Any media provided should be os-neutral and capable of being viewed by anyone on any system with any os. Forms should be supplied using open standards so that ANY standards-compliant browser can see and fill it out.
Thus, it is good public policy for a government to dictate that all its system use oss systems or at the very least require that all communications intended for public consumption be of a non-propriatory form.
To me "mainstream" means what MOST people are like, not the rabid few. Fundies are a very small overall minority, yet they have a big political voice because they, as a non-thinking unit, all vote in every damn election from school board to president.
All you need to see that they are not mainstream is the real reaction that ultimately results when they try to pull a "we know what is best for you in your private and public life - it is our god" kind of thing. They get smashed by public outcry (see, for instance, backlash in Kansas against the anti-science fundies there).
Mainstream is a lot like average. An actual "average" person may not exist, precisely as described by the average, but many, many people closely approximate it. Hence, mainstream DOES exist as a cloud of MANY people - all slightly different in this way or that opinion, but their average works out to a real mainstream.
Loveable curmudgeons? I'm curious, what is the average age of those that are left at VA Linux? Twenty-somethings don't fit the curmudgeon bill. They fit the snot-nosed brat moniker. You want a curmudgeon, you need a gray-hair. You need lines on the face.
A curmudgeon doesn't wear saggers, snowboard, have a pierced nose or navel. That is kid stuff (see snot-nosed brat).
You would need to bring in curmudgeons. Dotcom and curmudgeon don't go together unless said dotcom specifically hunts around for, and finds, a curmudgeon willing to join the dotcom.
You got it backwards or twisted bucko. Politicos do NOT have to "pander" to the middle of the mall, mainstream. The majority of those that vote are loons. Christian fundamentalists are NOT mainstream, they are wackjobs who as a group turn out in full feather at each election. You end up with elected officials who do NOT represent the mainstream of the courntry, you get a lot of knee-jerk, right-wing crazies that prefer guns to sex and cannot separate religious delusion from stone-cold fact. They get the idea that their moral and religious beliefs are "right" for everyone, period.
If people would receive a tax credit for voting, then you'd get a big turnout without making it compulsory. You'd get a hell of a lot more than 48% - you'd get the real mainstream and underrepresented going to vote with the inducement that as they left, they'd receive a slip that gets filed with their income tax forms for a $500 or so credit.
That's the way it ought to be - to at least see what happens. This SHOULD be something the Republicos especially like, being a tax credit, but they wouldn't go for it because the higher the turnout, the more moderate the votes lean and the religious gun-nuts would fare very poorly.
That is nice - because it was packaged as a 333 AND sold as a 333. Since it cannot be overclocked, the store screwed themselves out of a few bucks. I never checked it until now because there was no point/need and I believed the paperwork that came with it and the saleman.
Suddenly, my laptop "feels" faster. Just like that.
Europe most assuredly would NOT screw Brazil if the USofM$ decided to get snippy about OSS,etc. Europe would be happy to step right in and expand its economic ties while the USofM$ dicks itself over.
Don't kid yourself. No amount of whining is going to prevent more and more particularly 2nd world and developing nations from going OSS and sticking with it for the unbeatable price and control it gives them.
Besides the incontrovertable fact that this monopoly is acting and has acted illegally to maintain and further its monopoly. It's the finding of FACT, not finding of opinion.
No government should make itself beholden to a clearly illegal-actor monopolist. It is a breach of national sovereignty, security, and plain stupid to do otherwise.
I have an Athlon and like it. I will stick with Athlons until Intel really comes up with something better for the money. I don't bite off on the Mhz myth - I KNOW an Athlon is faster than the equivalently-clocked P4. I still want to know the clockrate.
I buy the chip and it is MINE to do with as I please. Right now I do not overclock my 700MHz chip because it is f*ckin' hot enough as it is (and has a correspondingly huge heatsink). However, when I was using intel chips before, I overclocked every damn one of them. In the future I may wish to overclock MY AMD chip. If I know what the MHz is supposed to be NORMALLY I can take various factors into consideration and make a reasonable decision as to how much I am willing to overclock MY Athlon. If I don't know the MHz and multiplier setting, then I can't make a properly informed decision about overclocking.
Tell me the NORMAL rated speed and I will be able to decide if I wish to push it, and how far.
YOU can use whatever the fuck you want on YOUR system. On a guv'mnt system you have to go with open source. Good.
How is this bad? Right now, and WRONGLY, the USAF requires all USAF computers use Windoze. That is wrong, in your book, because it prevents the user from have a "choice".
The US Army mandates MacOS.
I happen to know that the USAF (and probably the other services too) are considering linux and *bsd systems. Good. Tax dollars should not support anti-open standards. ALL government systems should be required to use totally open standards-based computers. Proper file sharing, communication protocols, media protocols, etc, that are NOT dictated and limited/controlled by one company - standards that ALL are free to use. Thus, no one is prevented from accessing provided goods or services from their government due to propriatory and exclusive/closed protocols.
Microsoft is all about forcing competitors out of business via illegal monopoly leveraging, improper protocol breaking, closed communications protocols to lock out the "non-blessed" as dictated by Bill G.
No civil government anywhere should be party to this anti-democracy, anti-free information, anti-choice company (M$).
What is it about the poles that makes them the people to see?
Doh! I had it wrong, it isn't the Poles, it's the poles, as in north and south poles. In Australia, the law requires that you go to the poles. My question is then: Both of them? Can't you just go to the nearest one and have done with it? It seems like a major hardship and expense, plus all those people showing up at the poles on a regular basis - hard on the fragile ecosystems.
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The problem is you have to buy a mac to get macos and lose all your good games and sech. Linux/BSD should go this route. I was thinking that it was more like the way Macs handle the GUI, which, while butt-nasty with MacOS 9 and earlier, is pretty nice with the current buggy MacOS X. Macs approach unix and unix approaches the few good things about the Mac. In the middle will, perhaps, be Berlin - better than anything on either.
OK, you got me. I looked at the html source and see nothing nefarious. Looks like html to me. Actually, there isn't much to it. So, what is the "hostile code"?
I just wish it would come along faster. Berlin promises to be the first really modern graphics server/interface on linux/unix. X is nice for a lot of reasons but it sure would be nice to switch to a finished Berlin.
I've checked on the site from time-to-time for a couple years (it IS moving slow) but it really shows promise. I would LOVE for 1 cm or 1 inch on the screen to really mean 1 cm or 1 inch, period. Screw pixels. Make it match what gets printed by a berlin-aware app (modified gimp?) and you really have something. True-sized graphics editing onscreen. Measure with a ruler and it means what it means on the screen and when you print it.
The true alpha transparency is also really cool. Just don't trash my kde theme. The basic Berlin look right now is very motif-ish (yech!). I like my qt-ish look and friggin' HATE motif/lestif. They do indicate true theming on the way, however, so there is hope.
Huh? I went there (konqueror) and viewed ONE window with VERY nice screenshots. No porn site-like spawing of windows faster than you can kill them.
The thing is, I get this problem when I try to connect to the http://news.bbc.co.uk site from home and at school. Different networks, different DNS's. As soon as I enter the ip address - connection successful.
On rare occassions I'll be suprised and actually get through via the url, but it is rare.
Hope I'm not too late to this discussion to get an answer...
Lately, my mailbox has been getting hit heavily with spam. At first, using kmail, I simply setup filters to bounce any mail deemed as spam (the usual suspects containing "!!!","diet", "money", "fast", etc). It turns out that most of the crap I was getting had false email addresses on them so instead of bouncing properly, my inbox began filling with failed delivery messages.
Question: with this nospam app, if the email address is bogus, don't you stand the chance filling your inbox with just as many failure to deliver notices as spam? Since the nospam app sends off a complaint message to the sender, if the sender email is bogus, you will get a failed delivery notice for every spam that contains a bogus email. How do you protect against that?
I ended up going with the app "ricochet" which automatically sends a complaint letter to the contact emails appropriate for the origin of the spam, regardless of the bogus email. Hopefully, the ISPs so notified will then take action.
You know, just about every damn time I try to connect to the BBC site via slashdot (including with this story) it doesn't work. There appears to be something REALLY dicked about a lot of DNS servers. I suggest that from now on, instead of linking to the bbc URL you guys use the IP address, which always works.
MOST of the time the BBC url is broken and gives an IMMEDIATE "unknown host" message. Type in the IP and viola! Instant connection.
Never heard of NOW until now. Went over to the Progeny website to read about a dead project. Not much information there, just a bunch about how it is on indefinite hold. I had to read through a bunch of slashdot postings to finally find a description of it. Sounds good and would be a Good Thing (tm) for linux. Too bad it's sacked.
Then I see all this stuff about how great Progeny is. Took a look at the specs...kernel-2.2.18?! XFree86-4.0.3?! Sheesh. Got to go way back and get THAT! Lousy support for my video card, dusty old kernel with no connection to the modern era. OLD kde and gnome. Yep, best way to show off the good stuff in linux is to provide the OLD stuff that lacked a lot of features and capabilities.
Not wanting to be at the cutting edge of kernels and XFree is one thing, but 2.2.18? Give me a frickin' break. KDE2? Huh? Please tell me that isn't 2.0 or 2.1.
OK, with you little illustration you've accounted for between 8 to 10 people leaving. You forgot the other half or third
Statistical fluke? Maybe. Sign of something else? At least equally likely.
Brilliant attitude! Hence, the reason the developers are falling off instead of picking up a steady stream of replacements or even gaining in number.
VERY parochial.
Helpful and optimistic new guy: "Hey guys, I'd like to help. I could code up a driver or two."
Nasty, self-stabbing *BSD coder: "Who the FUCK are YOU?! Piss off, we don't want nor need you codeboy."
What do you mean by "be wary of integrated graphics, next time you go shopping for a laptop"? Do you mean simply check what integrated chip is used? That must be it because the wording implies that one has a choice to go with a NON-integrated graphics laptop and, of course, there is no such animal.
Truer words were never said. I played HL through to the end without a hitch under wine. I failed at the VERY end just like I did when I first played it under doze...
How the f*ck do you beat that last giant floating baby? I invariably "beat" 'im, his head split open like a ripe banana, but by that point I am nearly out (or am out) of ammo of any kind. I once jumped over and landed on his split-open head, managed to stay atop for hours (I left the computer to do other things) with a book holding down my ctrl key so the character would just stay there and beat the crap out of the baby's split-open head with the crobar. Didn't work.
You have the baby's head split...so what next?
That's absolutely true. M$ needs for every user to have a uniformly bad experience. If SOME users get a better experience by having a mutliboot system with other OSes on their system, those without will be upset and it will be M$ that suffers.
As long as the unwashed masses ALL have the same, dull, bad user experience then none will come to the realization that there ARE better/other options.
Err...a government agency, be it the civil, judicial, or military components are all perfectly within their rights to determine what software goes on government computers. No different in any other country.
As a matter of fact, I would strongly argue that any democratic government should ONLY use OSS systems. Period. Why? Well, because they serve ALL the people, not just those running Microsnot or MacOS or unix or anything else. All the people regardless of CPU and OS. This means that they cannot ethically use, say, M$ software because it is entirely designed to break connectivity and usability with non-M$ systems. It breaks virtually all proper internet communication standards with the intent of driving all to use only their system. A government should have no place in furthering this endeavor.
A proper democratic government would use ONLY websites designed to be viewed by ANY browser that is capable of understanding STANDARD http. Any government website should ONLY provide reading material that is viewable on ANY system, even without Word on it. It should be in a format viewable by anyone on ANY computer with ANY os.
Any media provided should be os-neutral and capable of being viewed by anyone on any system with any os. Forms should be supplied using open standards so that ANY standards-compliant browser can see and fill it out.
Thus, it is good public policy for a government to dictate that all its system use oss systems or at the very least require that all communications intended for public consumption be of a non-propriatory form.
To me "mainstream" means what MOST people are like, not the rabid few. Fundies are a very small overall minority, yet they have a big political voice because they, as a non-thinking unit, all vote in every damn election from school board to president.
All you need to see that they are not mainstream is the real reaction that ultimately results when they try to pull a "we know what is best for you in your private and public life - it is our god" kind of thing. They get smashed by public outcry (see, for instance, backlash in Kansas against the anti-science fundies there).
Mainstream is a lot like average. An actual "average" person may not exist, precisely as described by the average, but many, many people closely approximate it. Hence, mainstream DOES exist as a cloud of MANY people - all slightly different in this way or that opinion, but their average works out to a real mainstream.
Two names: NPR News and MacNeil News Hour.
Speaking of mission critical OS and all...can I be in one of the porn movies you are involved with?
Loveable curmudgeons? I'm curious, what is the average age of those that are left at VA Linux? Twenty-somethings don't fit the curmudgeon bill. They fit the snot-nosed brat moniker. You want a curmudgeon, you need a gray-hair. You need lines on the face.
A curmudgeon doesn't wear saggers, snowboard, have a pierced nose or navel. That is kid stuff (see snot-nosed brat).
You would need to bring in curmudgeons. Dotcom and curmudgeon don't go together unless said dotcom specifically hunts around for, and finds, a curmudgeon willing to join the dotcom.
You got it backwards or twisted bucko. Politicos do NOT have to "pander" to the middle of the mall, mainstream. The majority of those that vote are loons. Christian fundamentalists are NOT mainstream, they are wackjobs who as a group turn out in full feather at each election. You end up with elected officials who do NOT represent the mainstream of the courntry, you get a lot of knee-jerk, right-wing crazies that prefer guns to sex and cannot separate religious delusion from stone-cold fact. They get the idea that their moral and religious beliefs are "right" for everyone, period.
If people would receive a tax credit for voting, then you'd get a big turnout without making it compulsory. You'd get a hell of a lot more than 48% - you'd get the real mainstream and underrepresented going to vote with the inducement that as they left, they'd receive a slip that gets filed with their income tax forms for a $500 or so credit.
That's the way it ought to be - to at least see what happens. This SHOULD be something the Republicos especially like, being a tax credit, but they wouldn't go for it because the higher the turnout, the more moderate the votes lean and the religious gun-nuts would fare very poorly.
That is nice - because it was packaged as a 333 AND sold as a 333. Since it cannot be overclocked, the store screwed themselves out of a few bucks. I never checked it until now because there was no point/need and I believed the paperwork that came with it and the saleman.
Suddenly, my laptop "feels" faster. Just like that.
Europe most assuredly would NOT screw Brazil if the USofM$ decided to get snippy about OSS,etc. Europe would be happy to step right in and expand its economic ties while the USofM$ dicks itself over.
Don't kid yourself. No amount of whining is going to prevent more and more particularly 2nd world and developing nations from going OSS and sticking with it for the unbeatable price and control it gives them.
Besides the incontrovertable fact that this monopoly is acting and has acted illegally to maintain and further its monopoly. It's the finding of FACT, not finding of opinion.
No government should make itself beholden to a clearly illegal-actor monopolist. It is a breach of national sovereignty, security, and plain stupid to do otherwise.
I have an Athlon and like it. I will stick with Athlons until Intel really comes up with something better for the money. I don't bite off on the Mhz myth - I KNOW an Athlon is faster than the equivalently-clocked P4. I still want to know the clockrate.
I buy the chip and it is MINE to do with as I please. Right now I do not overclock my 700MHz chip because it is f*ckin' hot enough as it is (and has a correspondingly huge heatsink). However, when I was using intel chips before, I overclocked every damn one of them. In the future I may wish to overclock MY AMD chip. If I know what the MHz is supposed to be NORMALLY I can take various factors into consideration and make a reasonable decision as to how much I am willing to overclock MY Athlon. If I don't know the MHz and multiplier setting, then I can't make a properly informed decision about overclocking.
Tell me the NORMAL rated speed and I will be able to decide if I wish to push it, and how far.
YOU can use whatever the fuck you want on YOUR system. On a guv'mnt system you have to go with open source. Good.
How is this bad? Right now, and WRONGLY, the USAF requires all USAF computers use Windoze. That is wrong, in your book, because it prevents the user from have a "choice".
The US Army mandates MacOS.
I happen to know that the USAF (and probably the other services too) are considering linux and *bsd systems. Good. Tax dollars should not support anti-open standards. ALL government systems should be required to use totally open standards-based computers. Proper file sharing, communication protocols, media protocols, etc, that are NOT dictated and limited/controlled by one company - standards that ALL are free to use. Thus, no one is prevented from accessing provided goods or services from their government due to propriatory and exclusive/closed protocols.
Microsoft is all about forcing competitors out of business via illegal monopoly leveraging, improper protocol breaking, closed communications protocols to lock out the "non-blessed" as dictated by Bill G.
No civil government anywhere should be party to this anti-democracy, anti-free information, anti-choice company (M$).
What is it about the poles that makes them the people to see?
Doh! I had it wrong, it isn't the Poles, it's the poles, as in north and south poles. In Australia, the law requires that you go to the poles. My question is then: Both of them? Can't you just go to the nearest one and have done with it? It seems like a major hardship and expense, plus all those people showing up at the poles on a regular basis - hard on the fragile ecosystems.