*Sigh*. Fine. Then using the linked article above, they sold almost 8k out of 10k for 2011(not bad) but only 1.6k out of 60k for 2012. Any way you look at it the numbers are disastrous. To argue otherwise is sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality.
No, it's 8k out of 30k. You're totaling two years of sales with only the first year of projections. Out of the 20k they hoped to sell this year, only 1.6k have actually sold. HUGE problem there.
So you want the Justice Department filled with people who's moral base changes depending on who signs their paychecks? The RIAA has been proven to use underhanded and illegal methods to try and come up with "arguments to prove that people owed them money". So if you get on the bad side of the DOJ it's okay for them to use illegal and immoral methods to prosecute you? You want a bunch of Eliot Spitzer's over at the DOJ? In my mind this is very scary.
Exactly my thoughts. If I remember correctly, Microsoft makes much more money off Office than Windows, but they have to keep producing Windows because that helps maintain their grip on Office users. I'd wager that support costs for an OS are way higher than support costs for an app, even one as large as Office. If MS could drop their OS the company would probably be much leaner and profitable, but they can't do that or they risk losing control.
If Google was to release something, it would be smartest to release something that works on Windows, Linux and OS X. Let the support for the OS, where the biggest headaches come from, to someone else. That makes the most business sense to me.
If it is RC3, stay clear. The R1 release of Zeta has a new kernel that's pretty darn smooth. BeOS has been known for at least appearing fast, but Zeta's new kernel in R1 blows any previous release away. It's a world's apart from RC3.
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The memory limit is gone. Whereas on R5 it would just ignore anything above 1 GB, Zeta will use it all.
They do have the kernel source. This is not a patch, the actual problem was fixed. It will be interesting to see, as I've heard good word about the kernel Be was using in the end but never got released. This should be it.
I just can't wait to dual boot OS X and Zeta on the same machine. What a strange world we live in!
Perhaps you didn't read the article. The refrigerator was used to make the ice he put into the water. You're looking in the wrong place for the ass umption...
The final version of the Zeta kernel has a newly compiled version. Check the review of the new kernel at http://www.ZetaNews.com . I sometimes question the logic in releasing an untested kernel with their first release version but there is a newer kernel that will ship with Zeta.
Do not trust the AC. yellowTAB has the source and used it for the latest kernel. They just can't say anything publicly about it. There are a few fudmeisters in the BeOS community (yeah, there's still a bunch of people hanging on there) that refuse to accept the fact that yellowTAB has the source.
Certain modifications that were made could not have been made without access to the source and a recompile. Period.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of Futurama's problems were because Fox didn't own any of it and hence couldn't milk the crap out of it like they do with the Simpsons. I thought that was a bone of contention between them and Matt and was the reason why Futurama was treated like garbage.
It's not bad until you can't find Windows equivalents for OSX.
Believe me, I understand this better than you can imagine being a BeOS devotee. At the very least, however, I can run Windows on the same hardware as BeOS. This is a liberty Mac users don't have.
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I disagree with your assessment.
If Cadillac's ran on something other than common gasoline, which you then had to pay more for and could only get at a few select gas stations, then maybe your analogy would be correct.
The Mac's biggest issue is a prohibitive cost of entry and maintenance - and I'm not talking about expensive hardware. To make the switch you're forced to to buy software that will only be transferable to another Mac. If something comes out for a Windows PC only (and considering their marketshare I'd imagine there's more than a few programs that fit this description) and there's no Mac equiv, then you're stuck.
If I get a PC and decide to upgrade or buy new I don't have to worry about high costs of the upgrade. If you buy a Mac then you have to make a big initial investment that sticks you on the Mac path unless you want to outlay the same large investment to switch. Considering the shrinking market share of the Mac, this just isn't good business.
But what do I know... I run BeOS so I guess I like being stuck with dead-end software.:) For what it's worth, I have a Mac and I really like OSX but I can't see myself switching exclusively until Apple decides they want to compete more on the low-end scale of computing.
If you take a look where yellowTab is doing demos and promoting Zeta, it appears that they're really looking more at the areas where people cannot afford the Windows tax or places where PC's are outdated enough that running XP would be an exercise in futility.
I think they've got a good idea there. BeOS shines on older hardware, and it looks like yellowTab is trying to supply a more rounded solution (software-wise) than picking up older copies of Windows and having to purchase additional software to make it useful. I think yellowTab is trying to position Zeta as the x86 man's version of OSX.
No, this would be like taking crayola's to a Rembrandt that you own and have full rights to. Nothing wrong with that (especially if you don't like Rembrandt...).
Read the President of Gobe's reply around comment 80 or so. He doesn't have the source and Gobe can't just release it because they have venture (vulture) capitalists to report to.
Look up the word "sex" in a search engine and tell me how difficult it is to stumble upon pornography. I;m fine with them browsing the more candid books on reproduction - they'd be getting more accurate information than from many of the sites out there.
The library isn't childcare. But if my daughter wants to spend some time looking for books on subjects that interest her while I run a few errands, I won't be able to do that if I'm forced to watch her every activity. I resent the fact that you insinuate I'm just dumping my kids off because it's an alternative to childcare.
The legal stipulation for regulating strip clubs is based upon "community values". You're right, the library is for the community. So maybe we should stop the federal government from deciding what goes in my local library and have a public vote on the issue.
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*Sigh*. Fine. Then using the linked article above, they sold almost 8k out of 10k for 2011(not bad) but only 1.6k out of 60k for 2012. Any way you look at it the numbers are disastrous. To argue otherwise is sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality.
Not too far. 3 months. The 2012 model year for the Volt started mid-2011.
http://www.edmunds.com/futuremodels/2012/
No, it's 8k out of 30k. You're totaling two years of sales with only the first year of projections. Out of the 20k they hoped to sell this year, only 1.6k have actually sold. HUGE problem there.
So you want the Justice Department filled with people who's moral base changes depending on who signs their paychecks? The RIAA has been proven to use underhanded and illegal methods to try and come up with "arguments to prove that people owed them money". So if you get on the bad side of the DOJ it's okay for them to use illegal and immoral methods to prosecute you? You want a bunch of Eliot Spitzer's over at the DOJ? In my mind this is very scary.
Exactly my thoughts. If I remember correctly, Microsoft makes much more money off Office than Windows, but they have to keep producing Windows because that helps maintain their grip on Office users. I'd wager that support costs for an OS are way higher than support costs for an app, even one as large as Office. If MS could drop their OS the company would probably be much leaner and profitable, but they can't do that or they risk losing control.
If Google was to release something, it would be smartest to release something that works on Windows, Linux and OS X. Let the support for the OS, where the biggest headaches come from, to someone else. That makes the most business sense to me.
If it is RC3, stay clear. The R1 release of Zeta has a new kernel that's pretty darn smooth. BeOS has been known for at least appearing fast, but Zeta's new kernel in R1 blows any previous release away. It's a world's apart from RC3.
The memory limit is gone. Whereas on R5 it would just ignore anything above 1 GB, Zeta will use it all.
They do have the kernel source. This is not a patch, the actual problem was fixed. It will be interesting to see, as I've heard good word about the kernel Be was using in the end but never got released. This should be it.
I just can't wait to dual boot OS X and Zeta on the same machine. What a strange world we live in!
Perhaps you didn't read the article. The refrigerator was used to make the ice he put into the water. You're looking in the wrong place for the ass umption...
I was always under the impression that having to pay to develop for OS/2 was what hurt it more than anything...
The final version of the Zeta kernel has a newly compiled version. Check the review of the new kernel at http://www.ZetaNews.com . I sometimes question the logic in releasing an untested kernel with their first release version but there is a newer kernel that will ship with Zeta.
Do not trust the AC. yellowTAB has the source and used it for the latest kernel. They just can't say anything publicly about it. There are a few fudmeisters in the BeOS community (yeah, there's still a bunch of people hanging on there) that refuse to accept the fact that yellowTAB has the source.
Certain modifications that were made could not have been made without access to the source and a recompile. Period.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of Futurama's problems were because Fox didn't own any of it and hence couldn't milk the crap out of it like they do with the Simpsons. I thought that was a bone of contention between them and Matt and was the reason why Futurama was treated like garbage.
It's not bad until you can't find Windows equivalents for OSX.
Believe me, I understand this better than you can imagine being a BeOS devotee. At the very least, however, I can run Windows on the same hardware as BeOS. This is a liberty Mac users don't have.
I disagree with your assessment.
:) For what it's worth, I have a Mac and I really like OSX but I can't see myself switching exclusively until Apple decides they want to compete more on the low-end scale of computing.
If Cadillac's ran on something other than common gasoline, which you then had to pay more for and could only get at a few select gas stations, then maybe your analogy would be correct.
The Mac's biggest issue is a prohibitive cost of entry and maintenance - and I'm not talking about expensive hardware. To make the switch you're forced to to buy software that will only be transferable to another Mac. If something comes out for a Windows PC only (and considering their marketshare I'd imagine there's more than a few programs that fit this description) and there's no Mac equiv, then you're stuck.
If I get a PC and decide to upgrade or buy new I don't have to worry about high costs of the upgrade. If you buy a Mac then you have to make a big initial investment that sticks you on the Mac path unless you want to outlay the same large investment to switch. Considering the shrinking market share of the Mac, this just isn't good business.
But what do I know... I run BeOS so I guess I like being stuck with dead-end software.
We're a representative republic. But I guess democracy sounds so much better.
Or something.
If you take a look where yellowTab is doing demos and promoting Zeta, it appears that they're really looking more at the areas where people cannot afford the Windows tax or places where PC's are outdated enough that running XP would be an exercise in futility.
I think they've got a good idea there. BeOS shines on older hardware, and it looks like yellowTab is trying to supply a more rounded solution (software-wise) than picking up older copies of Windows and having to purchase additional software to make it useful. I think yellowTab is trying to position Zeta as the x86 man's version of OSX.
I'm posting this on my laptop from the bathtub. As long as you don't slip and... whoops...
*b*z*z*z*t*
They have a show like this - called '24'. Although it's not written to be one season only, each season (all 24 episodes) progress one story.
Check out the DVD's of season one. There are a few spots where they miss, but generally it's above and beyond anything else on American TV.
No, this would be like taking crayola's to a Rembrandt that you own and have full rights to. Nothing wrong with that (especially if you don't like Rembrandt...).
"Ow my freakin' ears!"
"Well, I expect that type of language at Denny's, but not here!"
Talk to Michael Robertson about it. Maybe he'll sponsor a new contest. ;)
Read the President of Gobe's reply around comment 80 or so. He doesn't have the source and Gobe can't just release it because they have venture (vulture) capitalists to report to.
Look up the word "sex" in a search engine and tell me how difficult it is to stumble upon pornography. I;m fine with them browsing the more candid books on reproduction - they'd be getting more accurate information than from many of the sites out there.
So if I drop off my 12-year old daughter at the library, I'm considering them a "babysitting service"? Sheesh, some of you people assume too much.
The library isn't childcare. But if my daughter wants to spend some time looking for books on subjects that interest her while I run a few errands, I won't be able to do that if I'm forced to watch her every activity. I resent the fact that you insinuate I'm just dumping my kids off because it's an alternative to childcare.
The legal stipulation for regulating strip clubs is based upon "community values". You're right, the library is for the community. So maybe we should stop the federal government from deciding what goes in my local library and have a public vote on the issue.