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Futurama: Can it be True!?

foolinator writes "Wired News has reported that Futurama could be making a comeback! From the article: "Last year, Futurama and Family Guy reruns did so well that it's likely both shows (which Fox killed in prime time) will produce new episodes." " Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again.

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  1. Good news by geirlk · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Good news everyone, we're canceled!"

    1. Re:Good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually on the DVD commentary, at the end of Anthology of Interest II, Billy West (voice of the professor) says

      "What if we got to make a 5th season?"
      "Good news everyone!"

      Did they sound bitter? nahhh...

    2. Re:Good news by MarkVVV · · Score: 2, Funny

      at least now we have someone to BEND our tvs again...

      bend...tvs...got it? no?

      sorry...

    3. Re:Good news by Shalda · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an idea I had for a cable channel: Let the shows/producers/whatever bid for the time slot they want, and then they keep all the ad revenue that comes in for that slot. I'm sort've supprised DirecTV, Comcast, DishNetwork, et al haven't tried that yet. But not really. Wouldn't want to piss off the established networks.

    4. Re:Good news by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      That's actually similar to the way Radio used to work, but there isn't enough money in it for the corps.

    5. Re:Good news by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that sort of make it all an infomercial? Kinda like Air America.

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    6. Re:Good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now the record companies pay to have their music played AND the radio stations keep the advertising money.

  2. Hooray! by FannyMinstrel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I truely hope that they both come back, particularly Futurama.

    Ah, Zoidy, what are we doing without you?

    1. Re:Hooray! by kaellinn18 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, Zoidy, what are we doing without you?

      Passing anatomy 101?

      Zoidberg: Now open your mouth and let's have a look at that brain. (Fry opens his mouth) Zoidberg: No, no no no, no, not that mouth. Fry: I only have one. Zoidberg: Really?

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  3. The question is... by Jharish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...will they be able to get back the same writing talent that made us fall in love with it, or is the quality of the shows going to be compromised?

    At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.

    1. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.
      If that's a joke, it's not very funny.
    2. Re:The question is... by SuperMo0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.

      Due in no small part to the fact that they're able to create episodes in a week, if need be.

    3. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am the Awesom-o 4000. Let me put this suppository in your anus.

    4. Re:The question is... by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1, Informative

      That's what I thought about the last few years. This season has been really good. The ninja weapons one and the special olympics episode were awesome. I just saw the Jennifer Lopez hand puppet episode, which I think was part of season 7. That was one of the funniest episodes ever.

      -B

    5. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.

      You got that right. Almost every season 8 episode has been a riot so far!

    6. Re:The question is... by SoVeryWrong · · Score: 1

      Why is this flamebait, it's true. Did you ever watch the behind the scenes video they had? They use software that's much more powerful than they'll ever need to do 'cut-out' artwork. They even mentioned that is why they are so timely.

    7. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      will they be able to get back the same writing talent that made us fall in love with it, or is the quality of the shows going to be compromised?

      Actually that already happened during the show's life. After season 2 was successful the show added more writers and the consistency went out the window. Season 3 was pretty erratic, containing the first terrible episodes of futurama (some so bad they didn't air until "season 5", the hodgepodge of unaired episodes that showed at the end of the show's life). IIRC after S3 aired some of those writers departed to "The Simpsons".

      Looking at the episode credits it looks like the worst episodes (ymmv) were penned by the newest writers, working alone, and the best episodes all had multiple writer credits. Some of the writers of the worst episodes also wrote or contributed to decent or good ones, so I wouldn't count on the same writers being available as being proof that the show will be consistently good. What we should hope for is not specific writers, but that the show starts out on good enough terms that there will be sufficient budget for a large writing/collaborative staff, in addition to the expensive animation, and that it won't have the metaphorical rug pulled out from under it halfway through its newest life.

    8. Re:The question is... by rark · · Score: 1

      Well, matt groenig does both the simpsons and futurerama, and how long has the simpsons been running? Over ten years, for certain. Given the long-running quality of the simpsons, I'm inclined to hold out significant hope for futurerama.

    9. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, matt groenig does both the simpsons and futurerama, and how long has the simpsons been running? Over ten years, for certain. Given the long-running quality of the simpsons, I'm inclined to hold out significant hope for futurerama.

      I've heard rumors (which AFAIK are totally unsubstantiated but YMMV) that Groening & Cohen's production company owns the rights to Futurama, which puts it in a different position than The Simpsons, which Fox owns lock, stock & barrel.

    10. Re:The question is... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which can hurt them, too. Spike TV's "This Just In" tries the same thing with very little success. Even jokes that SHOULD be funny aren't funny when they do them.

      It takes a special show to become more than the sum of its collaboraters. Adult Swim has it a lot of the time. Family Guy had it. South Park had it, lost it, and last season regained it. And Futurama has it in droves...in fact, as The Simpsons slowly became an exercise in self worship, Futurama started slicing at the bleeding edge of parody, with some of the most hilarious dialog on TV.

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    11. Re:The question is... by SuperMo0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It also takes a steady time slot. Both Futurama and Family Guy, if I recall correctly, were victims of FOX bumping it around their lineup a whole lot trying to find where it'd work best, but inevitably just screwing with their audience's head by not letting them get settled with when the show was on.

    12. Re:The question is... by vt_swimm · · Score: 3, Funny

      I am Hennifer Lopez, and I like tacos y burritos.

    13. Re:The question is... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think you confuse the thrust of my argument. A steady timeslow can make a funny show easier to find, but it won't make a dull show funnier.

      The shows I mentioned are funny no matter when they're on.

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    14. Re:The question is... by j-turkey · · Score: 4, Funny
      Adult Swim has it a lot of the time. Family Guy had it. South Park had it, lost it, and last season regained it. And Futurama has it in droves

      ...your sister has it. Your thoughts have betrayed her too.

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    15. Re:The question is... by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1
      At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years

      On The Simpsons DVD commentary, someone mentions that after The Simpsons success, the other networks tried prime-time cartoons, which pretty much all flopped. The commentator mentions reading an interview with the writer for one of those others, and he was a terrific writer, but there was only one--one guy was suppose to write a whole season's worth of quality episodes. On The Simpsons, they had several terrific writers, and most writers worked mainly on one episode per season. So it came as no surprise to them that these other shows weren't anywhere as good as The Simpsons and soon died.

      What's interesting about South Park is that it is mostly written by two people. This, more than anything, shows just how good Parker and Stone are.

      There's some interesting material on the making of South Park at South Park Studios. Aside from their fairly good-sized rendering farm (driven by homegrown Perl scripts), they seem pretty small in all departments compared to other prime-time cartoons, present and past. I think this probably shows that it is not just Parker and Stone that are terrifically talented.

    16. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Fullfill all your weeshes with my taco flavored keeses..."

    17. Re:The question is... by chaoaretasty · · Score: 1

      A lot of British comedies are mostly written by one or two writers and manage to pull out some great stuff too.

    18. Re:The question is... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Due in no small part to the fact that they're able to create episodes in a week, if need be."

      They really surprised me with their quick turnaround on this show. Wasn't it like half a week after the US Gov't took Elian that South Park had a parody of it? I might have the timing a little off, but I remember going "man, didn't that happen just last Saturday? Son of a bitch!"

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    19. Re:The question is... by PapayaSF · · Score: 1

      Last December, the South Park folks got an image of a bearded Saddam Hussein and a reference to a "spider hole" into an episode broadcast roughly 80 hours after his capture! Very impressive speed for animation.

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    20. Re:The question is... by plover · · Score: 1
      Oh, yeah, they're quick. They had the whole Wizard of Oz-like "Follow the only road" across Canada episode (which ended with the new Prime Minister of Canada actually turning out to be a puppet operated by Saddam Hussein from a spider hole) done on a Wednesday, and Saddam had been captured only the previous Saturday.

      I was thinking that they could have had some of it planned or even done earlier (they've always portrayed Saddam as Canadian) but the Canadian jokes were also very timely, and revolved around current Canadian issues with their new Prime Minister, so I really think the whole show must have been produced in the five days they had.

      Speaking of which, does anybody know what happened in Hawaii that caused South Park to not play the new Lemmiwinks episode last night? I really didn't understand their splash screen that read something to the effect of: "Due to the recent events in Hawaii, the Lemmiwinks episode will not be shown tonight." Now, the A.W.E.S.O.M.O. episode was still pretty funny, but I just didn't get the Hawaii thing.

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    21. Re:The question is... by huchida · · Score: 1
      A writing team which included none other than Al Gore's daughter...!

      http://www.acidlogic.com/gore_rock.htm

      I don't know her, but I bet she's cooler than Jenna Bush. Though Jenna seems to know how to party...

    22. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was funny when Bart and Milhouse were watching South Park, and one of them (Bart, I think) commented on how he admired how they keep it fresh after 49 episodes.

    23. Re:The question is... by jnicholson · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Mostly, they achieve this by having a much smaller run than US shows - in the order of 8 shows per season rather than 20.

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    24. Re:The question is... by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

      That was a joke, there was no Lemmiwinks episode. They had 2 different promos for that episode, one was the Lemmiwinks teaser but one was the promo for the actual awesomo episode (which kinda screwed up the joke.)

      It was the same tactic the guys used for the "Who is Cartman's Father" episode, where instead of revealing the father they put some oddball Terrence and Philip episode on.

    25. Re:The question is... by brre · · Score: 1

      At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years...It manages to be topical, but fresh doesn't always follow. As it demonstrates at times.

    26. Re:The question is... by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      It also takes a steady time slot. Both Futurama and Family Guy, if I recall correctly, were victims of FOX bumping it around their lineup a whole lot trying to find where it'd work best, but inevitably just screwing with their audience's head by not letting them get settled with when the show was on.

      Fox Sunday is a very dangerous territory if your name isn't The Simpsons or The X-Files because Fox honestly doesn't know how much of a Sunday it has during the NFL season. If a late-starting game ties and goes into overtime, or simply is played slowly, it runs into the East Coast primetime lineup. In fact, the NFL now recommends networks allocate three hours and fifteen minutes for game broadcasts, so that affiliates that show a late game expect that they will have football during their 7pm ET half hour.

      This really gets confusing in that Fox will often start their primetime lineup on time for some East Coast affiliates, but delete a half hour show or maybe two for those who deal which have a football runover problem. This means that some of the nation sees an episode, while other parts will end up missing it.

      Futurama got skipped several times in most of the nation due to this during its network run. Also, when a new episode gets ditched to most of the east coast due to sports runover, the west coast is usually fed a rerun rather than the scheduled new episode, and that also stings a bit.

      Somehow, I see Cartoon Network's Adult Swim being a much steadier place to park any revivals of Futurama and Family Guy.

  4. Welcome back Family Guy!! by justinmc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stewie Griffin: [After Lois tries to feed Stewie his broccoli "airplane style"] Damn you, Damn the Broccoli, and Damn the Wright Brothers.

    1. Re:Welcome back Family Guy!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Rogers. How ironic. Almost rhymes with. . . eliminated!"

    2. Re:Welcome back Family Guy!! by Dejitaru+Neko · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I'm glad to see it returning, too. I would like to shake the hand of the man who must have called the network and said it was his terminally ill son's final wish that Family Guy return to television.

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    3. Re:Welcome back Family Guy!! by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      "How do you look? How should I put this... somewhere in an attic, a portrait is getting prettier."

      Hah! I was ROTFLOL!

      (see The Portrait of Dorian Gray)

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    4. Re:Welcome back Family Guy!! by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      My favorite Stewie-ism: That's what I love about God, he's so deliciously evil!

  5. Same Deal with Family Guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Will Adult Swim get the new episodes of this show?

  6. Not true by lxt · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is simply a exagerration by the reporter - a wishful comment. It's simply not true, as has been said on all the Futurama sites for some time now.

    1. Re:Not true by ideatrack · · Score: 5, Informative

      The sad fact is that it may just be too hard to get all the right people back together. On the messageboards on Billy West's website (the voice of Fry, Zapp, Zoiberg etc but you know that) he said that the production team had broken up. At least I think that's where he said it anyway. But he has said he'd love to make more so who knows?

      That said isn't Katy Sagal doing something else with her time now?

      Family Guy is pretty much confirmed now, as the official site of the voice of Lois (forget her name) says as much.

    2. Re:Not true by mikey_boy · · Score: 4, Informative

      that may be, but Seth McFarlane has been quoted as working on new Family Guy:

      ... at the very least it [the new series] will be on Cartoon Network, which is great, because at the end of the day, that's where we built our biggest fan base.

      "The Family Guy" Coming Back

    3. Re:Not true by brokenvoice · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Alex Borstein did the voice of Lois and others. Incidentally wasn't there talk of a feature length Family Guy?

    4. Re:Not true by Cyberllama · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah its definately confirmed that family guy is coming back. They're working on new episodes now to begin airing in January of '05 on Cartoon Network. Fox has an option to air those episodes or sell them directly into syndication without ever airing them.

      I've heard speculation recently that Fox may indeed exercise thier option to show them first -- so we might get new family guy *THIS* year.

      But as for futurama, this sounds more like wishful thinking than anything substantiated. I think Futurama cost alot more to produce per episode than family guy (I could be wrong), so there might not be any profit to be had by making new episodes for syndication. Moreover, I don't think Futurama has had quite the same level of success in DVD sales that family guy had.

      The key to Family Guy's ressurection was not only beating letterman and leno in it's time slot on adult swim, but also being the number #1 selling dvd/dvd set in the country for several weeks.

    5. Re:Not true by EricWright · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, Katie Sagal is on ABCs 8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter, the show John Ritter was also starring in when he passed away last year. Who knows if the show will last past this year, though. I don't watch it, and haven't paid any attention to how it is doing.

      That said, back in the early 90s, Yeardley Smith was concurrently playing in Herman's Head and doing the voice of Lisa Simpson. Of course, those were both Fox shows, whereas Sagal would end up on two different networks...

      Who knows!?! ... but here's to wishful thinking!

    6. Re:Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in the mid/late 90s, Yeardley Smith was Greg's secretary on Dharma & Greg, an ABC series. So there is a precedent.

    7. Re:Not true by FreeTheFurniture! · · Score: 2, Informative

      Katie Sagal had the Futurama and 8 Simple Rules gigs going on simultaneously for a year or so.

      She started Futurama in 1999, and 8SR in 2002. . I'm pretty sure she had a few months overlap be for the cancellation was announced in Feb 2003. /p?

    8. Re:Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I noticed a change in Lois' voice. Must have been done by at least 2 different people or one who was prone to colds...

    9. Re:Not true by LittleGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just to start, Mila Kunis has been able to work both "Family Guy" and "That 70's Show" simultaneously.

      Voiceover and 'live' acting can and have crossed over.

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    10. Re:Not true by ajs · · Score: 1

      Overlap between an animated show and live-action can be fairly workable. The animated show can, to some extent, work around time constraints (as long as they are relatively fixed) because taping of the voices happens separately. Thus, she could tape her voice on Tuesday and everyone else could tape on Wednesday, and that would be fine.

      Of course, that's just an example, and it depends on how good her agent is.

    11. Re:Not true by brokenvoice · · Score: 1

      More likely it was just the fact that her character voice matured over the seasons. Check out how Prof. Farnsworth or Bender's voice has changed from season one of their show. As for Hermes' voice: that was all over the place for the first few episodes. (Mind you, Phil LaMarr is a great voice actor and Hermes wasn't originally supposed to be Jamaican.)

    12. Re:Not true by Amorpheus_MMS · · Score: 1

      Don't underestimate a company's desire for cash. If it's expected to be profitable there may yet be hope.

    13. Re:Not true by Mighty+LoPan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, I forget the actual number, but there was some astronomical cost for each Futurama episode, mostly due to the 3D animation style that it often dipped into. From a financial standpoint, if you were going to resurrect either Family Guy or Futurama, it wouldn't be hard to choose, since Family Guy sold more DVDs and costs less to produce.

    14. Re:Not true by ImpTech · · Score: 1

      Actually, my understanding was that a big part of Family Guy's demise was the high cost/episode, and ratings which didn't make that cost worthwhile. I don't have the actual number onhand, but I think something like $3M/episode. Futurama was just a bit more geeky, and as a result had a much smaller fanbase (IMO).

    15. Re:Not true by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 1

      > The key to Family Guy's ressurection was not only beating letterman and leno in it's time slot on adult swim [...]

      Not to say Family Guy isn't brilliant... because it is... but beating Letterman and Leno isn't saying much, these days. ;^)

      Admittedly, I used to love Carson, Letterman, and even Leno, back in the day. Looking at them again today, either Letterman and Leno have gone way down hill, or I had much more patience for annoying old men when I was younger. :^)

      And honestly, Leno's an insensitive ass, and not very funny. I'd much rather watch the MadTV impersonation of Leno than the ACTUAL Leno.

      Oh, and don't get me started on the Daily Show. THAT show kicks f[censored]ing ass! (For those of you at home, I said "f[censored]ing"...)

    16. Re:Not true by EricWright · · Score: 1

      But Futurama only had 4 production seasons. The 5 airtime seasons is a result of a) the show being a springtime replacement in the spring of 1999 (premiering 3/28/1999 btw), and b) the show being constantly pre-empted by Fox for football, NASCAR and other stupid reasons (let's show 2 old King of the Hill eps instead of Futurama this week!).

      Katie may well have been free from Futurama responsibilities because the 4th production season would have been the 2001-2002 series (season 1 = 1999, 2 = 1999-2000, 3 = 2000-2001). Also, according to Billy West on his website, they do the voice acting BEFORE the animation production, not AFTER (as I always had it figured).

      Finally, IIRC, Fox declined to order a 5th season in early 2002, leaving Katie plenty of time to hook up with 8SR, assuming it started in the fall 2002 lineup.

    17. Re:Not true by WillWare · · Score: 1
      ... at the very least it [the new series] will be on Cartoon Network, which is great, because at the end of the day, that's where we built our biggest fan base.

      Maybe it would be best to forget about Fox entirely. The Cartoon Network has a demonstrated competency for dealing with intelligent material, which Fox has not yet demonstrated. Maybe it would be more profitable to run it on Fox, but if it's just going to risk being a victim to the next managerial screw-up, why put it in harm's way?

      Does anybody know how the revenue models compare for Fox versus Cartoon Network? The ability to have more control over the show's future, and to have it handled by people who understand cartoons and the target audience, also ought to weigh into the decision.

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    18. Re:Not true by Cyberllama · · Score: 1

      Beating Letterman and Leno is pretty impressive if your talking about a tv show in syndication on BASIC CABLE.

    19. Re:Not true by Exatron · · Score: 1

      Futurama's animation budget was significantly higer than Family Guy's, but both series cost about the same amount per episode.

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    20. Re:Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as the official site of the voice of Lois (forget her name) says as much

      That would be Alex Borstein, and that site is here.

    21. Re:Not true by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 1
      Incidentally wasn't there talk of a feature length Family Guy?
      Yes, there was. It was put on hold to do the new season, however.
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    22. Re:Not true by nyseal · · Score: 1

      And in 'Herman's Head', she was actually getting 'face time'! Actually she's had plenty of face time in a lot of 'B' movies (Maximum Overdrive comes immediately to mind) but I think she's probably more well known for her voice...

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    23. Re:Not true by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      I don't care for Letterman and never have. Leno isn't very good, but at times he can hit the spot on a joke. Jaywalking is really the only reason to watch, even though that is getting played out. I love Conan Obrien myself that guy just cracks me up. Chinese Fabio? Cactus Chef? "Dead baby not included"

    24. Re:Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know why, but I would really like to bone that chick.

    25. Re:Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI..Hank Azaria was also doing both Herman's Head and the Simpsons...

  7. All-cartoon prime time? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows, and the jokes can be so much clearer, plus you can fly under the FCC's crazy censorship witch-hunting by being "just a harmless cartoon".

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    1. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by zakezuke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows

      I think I would prefer cartoon primetime over reality TV. Let's see the current Fox lineup on that front

      America's most wanted
      Cops
      My big fat obnoxious fiance
      The simple life
      Totally outrageous behavior caught on tape
      The Swan

      And the ever popular American Idol --www.fox.com

      The Dead Kennedys had a line in thier song MTV Get Off The Air "Allowing it to sink as low in one year As commercial TV has in 25". The shows listed are the likes of which you'd expect to be in scetch comedy. I'm not saying that Futurama or Family Guy is the apex of modern entertainment... but it's at least entertainment rather then vomit.

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    2. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by tb3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm afraid you're too much of an optimist. The sad truth is we're heading towards a prime time populated entirely by 'reality' programming. (I put reality in quotes because anyone who believes reality is really like that needs their head examined.)
      Those kind of shows are so cheap to make and draw such high ratings that they will completely take over the airwaves in a year or two.

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    3. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows, and the jokes can be so much clearer, plus you can fly under the FCC's crazy censorship witch-hunting by being "just a harmless cartoon".

      Or, since the basis of this shift are [highly rational and sane Bible afficionados], why not an all-Bible primetime? As "The Passion of the Christ" proved, as long as it's biblical you can get away with anything. Screw "Futurama," let's see Vivid's production of "Song of Solomon" live on CBS.

    4. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by GlassMaster · · Score: 1

      That was tried in the late 90's and failed. Remember when The Critic, The PJ's, Futurama, The Simpsons, King of the Hill, The Family Guy, Southpark, and Dilbert (on UPN) were on in prime-time slots?

      Don't get me wrong, I love a good animated show and ceratinly miss Futurama and The Family Guy. I am eagerly awaiting the day the day that Duckman gets released on DVD. But the masses of TV veiwers will only tune into a select few prime-time cartoons

    5. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Those kind of shows are so cheap to make and draw such high ratings that they will completely take over the airwaves in a year or two.

      What? You mean they haven't completely taken over yet?

      Gee! Maybe I should fire up that old tube-based TV and watch some of the remaining non-reality shows before they fade away forever! It'll only take me an hour or so to get the old beast down out of the attic...

      oooh, shiny new PC game box!

      Wait, what was I supposed to be watching again?

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    6. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm afraid your both wrong.

      We're headed for what we've always had...a scant few long running shows that get money and the benefit of the doubt, along with a bunch of filler that's on a short leash. Family Guy did well, but it didn't do as well as expected (come on, it was up against friggin FRIENDS, the indestructable behemouth of thursday night. even *I* would tape FG during the first run). So it was dumped as if it were Oliver Beene. Of course, since then, it's done massive syndicated business and had tons of DVD sales, and suddenly it looked a lot more valuable.

      Reality TV series are pressed to be more outrageous and as such are becoming more expensive. Yes, you don't pay the actors...but if you think talented editors, tropical locales and hundreds of cameras come cheaper than a ten person cast and a few unchanging sets, you're deluding yourself. And it's not as if you don't need writers on a reality show...you think all that drama sequences and frames itself? You think those voiceovers are ad-libbed? People write out the plots and subplots of reality TV, same as regular shows...they just have to make mountains out of molehills instead of out of imagination.

      I think reality TV peaked last year. It won't disappear, but I think what we're seeing is the tail end of reality show development and we can expect something new to excite programming directors for the next five years.

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    7. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I've noticed the only shows I watch often are in no particular order:
      • Stand up comedy
      • Banzai
      • Southpark (only new ones. I can't stand southpark reruns and avoid them like the plague. Maybe it's because they too closely match current events - They had a new episode where Saddam Hussein got captured like 4 days after he actually got captured. If they can do that, they can make a new episode for every week dammit!
      • Futurama
      • Family Guy
      • *Would prolly watch simpsons if I got it
        • Notice 3 are cartoons, and one Banzai, I will probably get bored of once the novelty wears off.

          The stuff I watch rarely or intermittently probably adds up to the amount of time I spend watching the stuff I watch regularly but the list is longer and my devotion is less.

        • Movies
        • Samarai Jack
        • Mythbusters
        • Odd & assorted Discovery channel / History Channel / Animal Planet stuff. Black & white war footage or anything with Hitler in it is avoided, as is anything having to do with emergency rooms, UFOs, Crop Circles, Ghosts or Psychic Powers.
        • Operation shows ( where you get to see them do real operations ) these don't play much but they are very interesting.
        • Monster Garage/Junkyard Wars/Robot fights/etc
        • Misc. But: Reality show participants should be redissolved into primordial goo and given a chance to re-evolve into something more worthwhile. So I don't watch them needless to say unless there were a Real World/Road Rules VS. Overwhemling numbers of Lions Tigers, Bears and Canniballistic Savages with Machetes episode. That I would watch.
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    8. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by ari_j · · Score: 1

      I agree on the 'reality' bit. Here's how I would've done Survivor, for example:

      16 people are dropped off in your choice of Siberia, the Sahara, the Amazon, Iraq, or the Outback. With the clothes on their backs, and nothing else. I don't know if they should be dropped off together or miles apart, but that can be decided based on audience screenings.

      Their goal: To outlive the other 15. The last person alive, should he make it back to a designated checkpoint somewhere on the globe (say, the network office in NYC), gets the grand prize: he gets to live.

      Now, for the on-topic part: Family Guy did the best parody on reality shows, with "Fast Animals, Slow Children".

    9. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Those kind of shows are so cheap to make and draw such high ratings"

      That's how reality shows are always defended, "They get good ratings, that's what people want". A huge number of people can only watch the 6 networks (UPN and WB barely count). Whatever the big four show from 8 to 10 are just going to get huge ratings. The only other options for most people are reading, exercising, and talking with family members, things Americans are not big fans of.

      Look at the Emmys the past few years. HBO and other cable channels have been kicking the network's butts. While the networks have been churning out the same bland recycled crap as cheaply as possible, HBO has been producing things like Band of Brothers, The Sopranos, and Mr. Show.

      It's scary to think that many members of congress are talking about holding cable TV to the same rules as broadcast TV because "children might be watching". The current FCC rule is that between 7am and 10pm, there can be no reference to sexual or excretory function. They enforce it whenever they feel like.

      -B

    10. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by PierceLabs · · Score: 1

      You're missing the best part - there should be abused and starved animals dropped into the area with cameras strapped to their heads - now THAT'S reality TV :)

    11. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by aiabx · · Score: 4, Interesting

      anything with Hitler in it is avoided, as is anything having to do with emergency rooms, UFOs, Crop Circles, Ghosts or Psychic Powers.

      I was channel-hopping one night and ran into one of those "Unsolved-Mysteries" UFO shows on Discovery. They were talking about these mysterious lights floating over Phoenix, which are apparently a big mystery in the flake world. I was disgusted to see this kind of World Weekly News crap on a science channel. But I watched it in a horrified trance. And do you know what happened? They debunked it! After listening to all the UFO nuts talking about how the only explanation is the paranormal, they spent the last quarter of the show presenting a credible, rational explanation. Yay for our side!
      -aiabx

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    12. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      I propose that we start calling 'reality' programming by a new term. Surreality programming is much more apt, seeing how Survivor and The Bachelor have more in common with Escher than anything I've seen personally or in the news. On a side note, it may embarrass those who watch it enough that the ratings will go down, and maybe we'll get some new programming.

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    13. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, what was the explanation?

    14. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by scotch · · Score: 1

      Aliens from another planet flying in saucer shaped space craft over phoenix. No more UFOs, we know they're little green men.

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    15. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Or, to quote another song:

      "Network execs with naked ambitions/Next week on Fox, watch lions eat Christians."

      Chris Mattern

    16. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was living in Phoenix at the time, and witnessed the event (along with hundreds of others).

      The Air Force was dropping LUU-2 flares out of A-10 Warthogs. These were out of Luke AFB.

      Most people who actually witnessed this tend to believe the explanation, as they were orange lights that slowly dropped until they went behind a mountain, out of view. The pattern in the sky even made them look as though they were dropped out of a moving object.

    17. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      I only watch "live TV" on Sunday night, all the rest of the time I watch DVD's I rent from Netflix. Cheaper than cable, cheaper than dish, and I can watch whenever I want. I'm not so uncool that I need the latest TV show to talk about, not when we have IP and OS's to talk about.

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    18. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 1

      > The sad truth is we're heading towards a prime time populated entirely by 'reality' programming.

      Damn, I wish I can accurately recall the bit from the Daily Show. Barbara Walters or someone was interviewing a bunch of jurors, and she asked them what it was like to be in the court... "It was like reality TV, wasn't it?"

      Jon Stewart's comment was something to the effect of: "yes, that's right folks... REALITY has finally become just like a reality TV show..."

    19. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by BigZaphod · · Score: 1

      Warthog? Don't you mean the Puma?

    20. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by josh3736 · · Score: 1
      You missed one:

      The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

      Best. Show. Ever.

      Also, I'd probably throw in Chapelle's Show and perhaps some Conan.

    21. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 1

      Agreed, that is good.

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    22. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by aiabx · · Score: 1

      Well, what was the explanation?

      I deliberately didn't tell, for the reason that a one line summary could sound like (to the conspiracy nuts around here) a coverup style story, which I didn't want to detract from the point I was making; that a UFO show ended with a solution grounded in the rational world.
      -aiabx

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    23. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by PasteEater · · Score: 1

      They were talking about these mysterious lights floating over Phoenix, which are apparently a big mystery in the flake world.

      I actually *saw* that event go down. I was on vacation from college, and went to visit my friends in Phoenix. We were driving along down some street when I saw something in the sky. My friend pulled over into a parking lot, and we watched whatever it was. Honestly, it looked like a bunch of flares attatched to parachutes. I didn't even think twice about it. About a year later (give or take a few months) I saw a video tape of "the event" on CNN. CNN! I called my friend and told him about it, and since then I too have watched in disgust as a collection of idiots try to explain what happened. I can tell you this: it wasn't aliens, and I think anyone who saw it would agree with me.

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    24. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quit fucking watching TV, lazy american, or I'll outsource your job to India!

    25. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      Family Guy I think would have done decent against Friends, if it was at the same timeslot every week. It's problem was it was constantly changing, and I think many people just gave up like I did. I downloaded them all at the time and later bought both seasons on DVD.

    26. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      Penn and Teller had a great episode about UFO's. It was very entertaining and interesting. Do people really think a far superior race is visiting us in secrecy? Probing people and animals, and having children with white trash?

    27. Re:All-cartoon prime time? by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      The official jargon line for reality TV these days is "unscripted drama."

  8. Is it the money? by zora · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems like too much of a coincidence that while the Simpsons actors are holding out for $8 Million / season that Fox suddenly takes an intrest in Futurama? Say it aint so!

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    1. Re:Is it the money? by goatan · · Score: 1
      It seems like too much of a coincidence that while the Simpson's actors are holding out for $8 Million / season that Fox suddenly takes an interest in Futurama? Say it aint so!

      ho ho that would be just desserts. Besides SKY/FOX has repeated the Simpson's to death the same episode 3 times a week is taking the p**s

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    2. Re:Is it the money? by SuperMo0 · · Score: 1

      But Fox wouldn't be stupid enough to not give them the money they're asking for. The Simpsons is all Fox has besides American Idol. They'd be FOOLS to let Simpsons go under such idiotic pretenses.

    3. Re:Is it the money? by EricWright · · Score: 1

      ... and American Idol is only on for a few months in the spring, and, AFAIK, isn't shown in repeats. Fox NEEDS the Simpsons. I'd guess that, right now, they're just waiting to see if the Simpsons' voice artists will back down any. Either that, or they are the most clueless idiots on planet earth... or both.

    4. Re:Is it the money? by SuperMo0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Either that, or they are the most clueless idiots on planet earth...

      Well, since we're talking about them cancelling Family Guy and Futurama... and this is the same network that aired The Simple Life... that verdict's up in the air.

    5. Re:Is it the money? by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      If somebody else was making tons of money off of your work and you were only getting a tiny piece of it, wouldn't you hold out for a larger cut before doing any more work? Fox makes way too much money off each new Simpsons episode, especially over the long term, to not give the talent more money.

    6. Re:Is it the money? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1


      Well, at least Frank Welker (voice of both Santa's Little Helper and Nibbler, along with most other animals) will have a job either way.

      Then again, Welker has already been the most prolific voice actor in animation for like 30 years already...

  9. And don't forget the FS mini by 51M02 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The Farscape mini-series is coming this autmun on Sci-Fi. I for one wish they will a new season right after that.

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    1. Re:And don't forget the FS mini by stokkie · · Score: 1

      hear hear

    2. Re:And don't forget the FS mini by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares about Farscape dumbass. In that case there was a reason the show was cancelled... It sucked.

  10. You're Fired! (tm) by aixou · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope someone at Fox got the axe for cancelling the two shows in the first place.

    1. Re:You're Fired! (tm) by Kittoa · · Score: 1

      Hopefully, he got fired... from a cannon, into the sun.

      -Alex

    2. Re:You're Fired! (tm) by cubicledrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not a chance. Probably got promoted and given a bayside apartment and six-figure bonus because the next quarter's numbers were up 20%. (Then down 40% the following quarter, after the bonus check was cashed).

      Management can't lose. If they cancel it and fire everyone, they take credit for the cost reduction. If they keep it on the air and it doesn't get the ratings, they fire everyone (because it was their fault) and take credit for the cost reduction. If they keep it on the air and it gets good ratings, they take credit for the increased ad revenue and the success of the show (it was their idea, of course), and they wait unti the end of the season to fire everyone, and take credit for the cost reduction. It's the perfect job.

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  11. WHOOP WHOP WHOP WHOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I certainly hope this is true. The 4 DVD Box sets would love a 5th-nth Futurama series as long as they keep the humour to the same high standard.

  12. I think we know what to say.... by Scrab · · Score: 5, Funny

    to the people that had Futurama canned...

    Kiss my shiny metal ass....

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    1. Re:I think we know what to say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your ass isn't so shiny.

    2. Re:I think we know what to say.... by DarkSarin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It probably isn't even metal!

      (It's been 15 seconds since you hit reply....

      sorry filters!)

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    3. Re:I think we know what to say.... by CaptSisko · · Score: 1

      Shinier than yours, meatbag!

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    4. Re:I think we know what to say.... by G-funk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Erm, it's BITE my shiny metal ass.

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    5. Re:I think we know what to say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer "Bite my glorious golden ass"

    6. Re:I think we know what to say.... by fyonn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      excuse me! I think you'll find it's daffodil! :)

      dave

    7. Re:I think we know what to say.... by ducman · · Score: 1

      For the casual Futurama watcher, it would be, "Bite my shiny metal ass." For a serious fan it might be, "Bite my splintery wooden ass."

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    8. Re:I think we know what to say.... by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the classic "Bite my glorious golden ass!" :-)

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    9. Re:I think we know what to say.... by JoeBaldwin · · Score: 1

      Jane, you ignorant slut!

      It's "bite my shiny metal ass"...

    10. Re:I think we know what to say.... by pepsee · · Score: 1

      You mean bite my shiny metal DAFFODIL ass...

    11. Re:I think we know what to say.... by Yer+Mom · · Score: 1

      Or "Bite my red-hot glowing ass! Wait a minute... red-hot glowing ass? I'll be right back!"

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  13. Skeptic by Punscho · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really am since we all know fox are evil. (Score 1, insightful)
    What about new FG episodes on DVD? I heard some rumour about that...

    1. Re:Skeptic by palironsat · · Score: 1

      Ummm...all of the Family Guy episodes that were released are out on DVD right now. I've practically worn them out already, I've played them so much.

  14. Family Guy Series 4 Already Confirmed by Mr.+Smoove · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who don't know, Family Guy will be back early next year for a fourth series. Alex Borstein (Lois) has recently commented on her first week back.

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    1. Re:Family Guy Series 4 Already Confirmed by autocracy · · Score: 1

      Lois Must Die, all one word, at Yahoo.com

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    2. Re:Family Guy Series 4 Already Confirmed by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      For those who don't know, Family Guy will be back early next year for a fourth series.

      Fourth series? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Family Guy has only had two seasons, and the first one was only a partial season (not a full 24 episodes).

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    3. Re:Family Guy Series 4 Already Confirmed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Family Guy had one partial season, then a second full season, then returned from near-death for a third full season.

      Now they're bringing it back from actual death for a fourth season.

  15. :) hmmm. by mrselfdestrukt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bite my non-shiny non-metal ass!

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    1. Re::) hmmm. by AiY · · Score: 1

      Now that's using your ass!

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  16. Old News by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    CGEF carried this over a month ago. At the time it was considered a case of "overenthusiastic editor." It still is as far as I'm concerned.
    I'll believe it when there's an announcement from Fox.

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    1. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      I'll believe it when there's an announcement from Fox.
      You believe things that are announced on FOX?
    2. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Link here - http://www.gotfuturama.com

    3. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no idea where to confirm this..

      but I thought I remember reading a long time ago that Groenig retained the rights for Futurama, as opposed to Family Guy (which was held by Fox)... so while Fox was the only place Family Guy could be returned (unless fox sold it, obviously), Futurama's future was slightly less trapped...

    4. Re:Old News by aslate · · Score: 1

      Not true, unfortunately FOX own the rights and Matt can't take the show elsewhere. I'd love it to come back but there are too many obstacles:
      FOX own the rights
      The expense of production (CN can't afford it)
      The splitting-up of the production team

      However, in it's favour, we do have the popularity, the DVD sales and the enthusiasm of Matt and Cohen to produce it again.

    5. Re:Old News by MrAl · · Score: 1

      Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought part of Futurama's problems were because Fox didn't own any of it and hence couldn't milk the crap out of it like they do with the Simpsons. I thought that was a bone of contention between them and Matt and was the reason why Futurama was treated like garbage.

    6. Re:Old News by aslate · · Score: 1

      As far as i know, FOX owned the rights, but Matt didn't want Futurama to end up like The Simpsons, totally under FOX control and ending up like something he didn't want. He wouldn't let FOX interfeare with Futurama and wouldn't write in anything they wanted. Thus they decided to hate the show and bury it like trash.

  17. Not FOX? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Is there any chance that these shows might find a network other than FOX?!

    After seeing them not only cancel shows that they doomed to failure due to their poor placement to say nothing of the travisty that is FauxNews I would like to see these shows grow some balls and find a network that might care about them.

  18. We can only hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the last convention that I saw him at, Matt Groening said he would LOVE to make new episodes of Futurama, but it is a extremely expensive show to make. It's more a money issue than anything else.

    As for Family Guy, they ARE making new episodes of that. The DVD set sales blew the execs away, they hadn't realized how popular it was, apparently.

    Not sure how to make the below a link....first time commenting on Slashdot.

    http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/ in dex.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040326005446& newsLang=en

    1. Re:We can only hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      here

      the link doesn't work anyway. Posted as plaintext so you can see how to do it.

    2. Re:We can only hope. by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 1

      And this is why even Anonymous Cowards should use the "Preview" button :-)

    3. Re:We can only hope. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      but it is a extremely expensive show to make. It's more a money issue than anything else.

      I have to call bullshecockey on that statement..

      outside the animation artists and Voice talent it is DIRT cheap to make. Hell all the objects and characters are already created and are lightwave objects... the only thing left is to animate and add the soudtrack.

      Hell several people make Animated series in lightwave, maya and even the much poo-pooed but still superior to lightwave, Blender programs. we make an animated commercial series here in blender and it takes exactly nothing to make a new commercial for that customer outside of the voice talent (we use a royalty free music library so music and SFX are not a cost factor) and cince the animators are staff, if they sit there surfing porn or working on the animation they cost exactly the same.

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    4. Re:We can only hope. by carou · · Score: 1

      outside the animation artists and Voice talent it is DIRT cheap to make

      Yes, it's dirt cheap apart from the expensive bits.

      Huh?

    5. Re:We can only hope. by cthulhubob · · Score: 1

      His point was that those are the expensive bits in any cartoon, and probably not more expensive in Futurama than anything else.

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    6. Re:We can only hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, Animated spaceships cost a fortune, as opposed to animated cars.

    7. Re:We can only hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure how to make the below a link..

      Is that you Sir Tim?

    8. Re:We can only hope. by Kenja · · Score: 1

      Futurama had/has a LOT of 3D graphics in it, way more then most people seem to realise. The quality of the animation is the best ever done on TV outisde of Japan. I recal a price tag of around 13mill for at least one of the episodes in season three.

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    9. Re:We can only hope. by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 1

      futurama had significantly more CG than most other cartoons out there. good CG isn't cheap

    10. Re:We can only hope. by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      make new episodes of Futurama, but it is a extremely expensive show to make

      Yeah, I think most of the expense goes towards all those costly futuristic sets they have to build every week.

  19. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since Gendy Tarkovsky is going to be directing episode three now, Seth will be taking the helm of his Cartoon network projects, and George Lucas will intern be taking over for Family Guy, and perhaps more surprisingly Futurama. You thought a 6 minute fart joke was overly long and in poor taste in a 120 minutes of movie, wait till you see an expanded version with 3 full minutes of previously unreleased flatulance shoehorned into 22 minutes of TV.

  20. Smaller channels? by Gilesx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Big Name" shows like these with a large brand recognition would be right at home on the smaller channels that need something to grab a few hundred thousand viewers. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that a show like Futurama would be given a lot more love and attention by a more grateful network, than the Fox behemouth.

    In addition to the mentioned toons, I read an interview with Kevin Smith and he mentioned that not only have the original 6 episodes of Clerks: The Animated Series been picked up for airing on a channel other then ABC (HBO I think?), but there is the possibility of all new episodes, as they orginally had plans for 4 seasons! Good times indeed....

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    1. Re:Smaller channels? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      The problem with the Clerks cartoon is that it really isn't all that good. It's not bad...but for every "Bear is driving, how can that be?" there's five minutes of boring, self referential filler. Oh wait, I just described every Kevin Smith film since the grayscale Clerks...

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    2. Re:Smaller channels? by taped2thedesk · · Score: 1
      Clerks: The Animated Series occasionally comes on Comedy Central during the Sunday night animation block (around 2am Sunday night/Monday morning)

      It's been on for a while (with the same six episodes), but I can't remember when they first started airing it.

    3. Re:Smaller channels? by HybridJeff · · Score: 1

      Watch out, pretty soon Jay and Silent Bob are going to waiting outsid eyour door to kick your ass.

  21. Invader Zim & The Critic by katz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Critic has been released on DVD and Invader Zim has probably also been released by now.
    I wish they could bring these shows back.. I heard that Jhonen Vasquez isn't interested in continuing with cartoons though. Ah well.
    Invader Zim only got what, one or two seasons?

    1. Re:Invader Zim & The Critic by MrLizardo · · Score: 0

      I think one season and two episodes from the second that weren't even aired in the US. I should know. I have them all. :)

      -Mr. Lizard

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    2. Re:Invader Zim & The Critic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like one and a half *sniff*

      but a few of the later episodes were shit so maybe we were spared a terminal decline...... who knows?

    3. Re:Invader Zim & The Critic by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Invader Zim, how I love that show. It truly appeals to the Machiavelli in me.

      Apparently, there are (1.5 seasons + halloween & christmas specials) of it. Low ratings are to blame, so halfway into the second season, Nick axed it.

      There is some talk that certain elements *cough* parents *cough* were to blame, as the content was less than PC. Which is what made it great: rooting for the bad guy, making fun of the good guy's "big head" (Zib), and "My Tallest" (alien overlords with a penchant for snacks) thrown in there for good measure.

      Seriously, I would give my right kidney if they brought back Invader Zim.

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    4. Re:Invader Zim & The Critic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Seriously, I would give my right kidney if they brought back Invader Zim.
      ...and have it replaced by a moo-toy?

      "Moooooo...."

    5. Re:Invader Zim & The Critic by Chibi · · Score: 1
      Invader Zim has probably also been released by now.


      The first volume of Invader Zim will be released on May 11, 2004. It is being released my Media Blasters, a US anime company. :)

      (BTW, as of this posting, their site seemed to be having some problems).

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  22. More than they know by Apreche · · Score: 2, Informative

    Futurama and Family Guy are more popular than they realize. Me and my roomate no longer watch television. Over the course of the 4 years of college we've had TV go from that thing we watch to being hated enemy. Of course there are 3 shows we download and watch. The third is the Simpsons. If they make new episodes that would be great, because then I can download and watch those too. It really sucks when you've downloaded and seen every single episode and there's nothing new. Buying the DVDs is good too.

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    1. Re:More than they know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure they realise there are people who download the show and watch it. There's just no reason why that would prompt them to make more episodes.

    2. Re:More than they know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a few other shows worth watching. "Monster Garage", "American Chopper", "American Hotrod". Good stuff there too.

      Futurama, The Simpsons, those shows, and Speedvision (aka Speed channel). That's all I need.

  23. Oh goodie! by Phidoux · · Score: 1, Funny

    More Bender!

    1. Re:Oh goodie! by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bender should not be allowed on TV

      Fathers Against Rude Television, or F.A.R.T.

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  24. Re:FP by goatan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Last year, Futurama and Family Guy reruns did so well that it's likely both shows (which Fox killed in prime time) will produce new episodes."

    Do the executives ever watch these programs if they did they would realise what a bad idea killing them off would be. Most programs that have a large audience in there first series usually trail off by the second and third (think of most reality shows). Most quality series build up a fan base slowly by word of mouth, which is what has happened with the re-runs.

    Message to SKY/FOX please stop repeating the same Simpson episodes in the same week it's boring and putting me off the Simpson's.

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  25. They never learn by Deanasc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If Fox does bring it back I hope they don't put it on at 7pm Sunday. Football and Nascar runs long... Kill Futurama. They never gave the show a chance to grow an audience outside of Sci-Fi fans. And yet they give Oliver Bean the cherriest slot behind Simpsons. I loved that crapfest when it was called 'The Wonder Years'.

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    1. Re:They never learn by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      I half wonder if they're trying to get payback on PVR users who timeshift the shows. I almost never watch TV during the "real" timeslot - I always catch it later when it's more convenient.

      However, I have a Dish Network "DVR", and it lacks TiVo's intelligence in that although it does remember the name of the program that you set a timer for, it is completely inable to cope with changes to a network's schedule. In other words, if I set it to record "Malcolm In The Middle" at 8:00PM on Sunday, I actually get whatever Fox happens to decide to air in that timeslot (although the timer screen will cheerfully tell me that it's set to record "Malcolm", even though a trip to the schedule will show otherwise).

      My wife and I loved to watch Boston Public, but we only managed to see about half of the episodes. I'd come home to find "Survivor 23: Queens" or "The Neophyte" or some other junk.

      Either Fox is deliberately screwing with PVR users ("You will pay attention, or we'll move your show without telling you.") or completely ignorant of the fact that people get used to seeing a given show at a given time. The other networks periodically shift programming around special events, but Fox seems to delight in swapping shows around at random.

      For some reason, though, "Arrested Development" has been on at the same time every week since the first episode. Ron Howard must have more pull than Matt Groening.

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    2. Re:They never learn by Insightfill · · Score: 1

      Yes, saddest thing ever. They were able to run the entire last season off of episodes that got pre-empted by football the prior season.

  26. Firefly?!? by Sieni · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sheesh, did they have to change the name of Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox/whatever again?!?

    1. Re:Firefly?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Presently using Mozilla Moonzebra now myself. But I prefered it when it was Moonanenome.

      http://www.cosmicat.com/

    2. Re:Firefly?!? by Jahf · · Score: 1

      Actually I think I would have liked "Firefly" better than "Firefox" and it would have good SciFi geek traction (for what that is worth :)

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    3. Re:Firefly?!? by FryGuy1013 · · Score: 1

      Firefly already exists.

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  27. Only to be pre-empted by Fox Football by shoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm a huge fan of Futurama and Family Guy, but I'm convinced that Fox is only doing this as "fodder" for pre-emption by football games.

    During Futurama's last season there was a two-month stretch where no Futurama was shown at all (even though it was in the schedule).

    1. Re:Only to be pre-empted by Fox Football by geoffspear · · Score: 1
      Actually, it was shown on the west coast, where the primetime schedule doesn't overlap with football. Otherwise, they might have actually re-ran the episodes they pre-empted instead of making us wait for Cartoon Network to show them.

      The most annoying thing they did was when after a game that actually finished before Futurama's timeslot, they went into a half hour postgame show for no apparent reason.

      But it still doesn't beat when the local affiliate pre-empted an episode of the X-files after the Superbowl postgame to have the premiere of their 10:00 news show at around 11:30.

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  28. Packaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Futurama has been the best packaging of any dvd series by far. Its not flimsy so it will last, and its also very sexy looking. All other tv shows should do this, Unlike the crappy packaging that 24 comes in....

    1. Re:Packaging by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      Both the outer sleeves on my Futurama season 1 and 2 box sets have fallen apart, and I can be quite anal about handling DVDs with care.

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  29. How to link. & link :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have to make it HTML code, like this:

    <a href="http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/goo gle/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=200403260 05446&; newsLang=en">Family Guy</a>

    (I masked the < and > signs using the HTML-Entities &lt; and &gt; (now requiring &amp; to display the &), otherwise it would have been displayed as a link directly, even if I chose "Plain Old Text"...), note that slashdot tends to break plain text urls by inserting spaces, this is not true if you "link" via HTML. The result will look like this:

    Family Guy

  30. Obligatory Family Guy Quote (OFGQ) by Brando_Calrisean · · Score: 0

    Guy 1: Hey, you want a piece of gum?
    Guy 2: Oh, thanks.
    Guy 1: Ha ha! That was joke gum.
    Guy 2: What do you mean?
    Guy 1: Now you're addicted to heroin. [laughs]
    Guy 2: [laughs then shivers] I'm cold.

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  31. One more gem... by Brando_Calrisean · · Score: 0

    Peter: Im looking for a toilet training book.
    Book store guy: "Everybody Poops But You" is still the standard one, we also have the less popular "Nobody Poops but You."
    Peter: See, we're catholic so uhhh..
    Book store guy: Oh! Then you want "You're a naughty child and that's nothing but pure concentrated evil coming out the back end of you."
    Peter: Perfect.

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  32. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Message to goatan please learn to use punctuation

  33. I love futurama (who doesn't) by CrackedButter · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    I downloaded every single episode, i hope to do so again.

  34. South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Threed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I dunno, I'm as big a South Park fan as anybody but season 8 has been consistently bad so far.

    Anyway, when these shows come back, I'd be concerned about the voice talent, the writers, the desire of the studio to just crank out some crap hoping the title of the show keeps people watching. I mean, have you seen the Simpsons lately? Definately past its prime.

    Maybe, and I hope I'm wrong, these shows were cut down in their prime for a good reason: to avoid jumping the shark.

    Now here's a show I'd love to see brought back, but it'll never happen... Invader ZIM. Too bad, the creative genius of the show has gone on record saying he'd rather die than animate.

    1. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by JDBrechtel · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, you didn't like the "You got served" episode? That was hilarious

    2. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by junkgrep · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The way a naked Cartman creeped across that stage was funnier than anything that's been on Fox for years.

    3. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

      I'd settle for just having IZ released on DVD to love and cherish forever, filthy human child.

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    4. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i use to love south park up until about the 5th seaso, then i lost interest. But, I've caught all the 8th season episodes and they are funier than ever! DAMN, I JUST SERVED YOU! YOU GOT SERVED! Dont even think about it dude, or else ITS ON.

    5. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by JCholewa · · Score: 1

      > I dunno, I'm as big a South Park fan as anybody
      > but season 8 has been consistently bad so far.

      That's odd. I only found the 'Passion'-related episode to be weak. The other episodes so far have been extremely funny, moreso than the last two seasons have been.

      Of course, maybe I'm just using South Park to compensate for my continuing battle against Futurama-oriented withdrawal symptoms.

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    6. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Dejitaru+Neko · · Score: 1

      Hey now, it was a wardrobe malfunction!

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    8. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1
      ...saying he'd rather die than animate.

      Well, of course. If you're not animate, you're dead.

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    9. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

      You just made my day :-)

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    10. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Invaderzim is a GREAT cartoon. I cant express in words why it's so great though... That sucks it was canceled, wasnt aware :(.

    11. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      I dunno, I'm as big a South Park fan as anybody but season 8 has been consistently bad so far.

      Damn! I thought watching Cartman dressed up as Britney Spears dancing with a cardboard cutout of Justin Timberlake last night was about the funniest thing I've ever seen.

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    12. Re:South Park Season 8 (and other topics) by Buster+Chan · · Score: 1

      I like the new South Park episodes. I think the show has evolved, in many good ways, since its creation. A lot of people get attached to the "good old" episodes of a show, because those were the first episodes they saw, the episodes which made them fall in love with the show in the first place. I think that you're blind to see that new "classics" are being created all the time.

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  35. Can it be true? by henriksh · · Score: 1

    Can it be true?

    Yes.

    Is it?

    Probably not. I have no respect for unsubstantiated Hollywood rumors. Please provide some factual evidence before posting stupid rumors like that.

  36. OBEY THE FIST! by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, now we've got the second best science-fiction comedy cartoon of all time un-cancelled, a concerted effort must be made to rescue Invader Zim from Nickelodeon. Irkan dominance must not be denied!

    SoupIsGood Food

    1. Re:OBEY THE FIST! by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Screw Invader Zim, I say we start a grassroots campaign to bring back Turbo Teen! Also, Jace and the Wheeled Warriors, which have been sadly neglected in the 80s action show resurgence that has brought back He-Man, TMNT, Voltron and The Transformers.

      The long, forgotten Tranzor Z lives on as the volume name of my video scratch disc.

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    2. Re:OBEY THE FIST! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      > The long, forgotten Tranzor Z lives on...

      Not as long as some of us remember the name of Go Nagai...and the boob missiles...I don't think I'll ever forget the boob missiles...

      Chris Mattern

    3. Re:OBEY THE FIST! by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Wow. I thought my brain made the Boob Missiles up.

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    4. Re:OBEY THE FIST! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Indeed not, as you can see here or here.

      Chris Mattern

  37. Hooray for Zoidberg by bangular · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know if anyone else remembers what Futurama was replaced with. Oliver Beane. One of the shittiest shows ever. People joke about Fox executives being a bunch of monkeys that have no clue about programming, but it's really true. Every single truly good show Fox gets it cancels. What is it replaced with? Midgets, people injuring themselves, TV bloopers, weddings, police chases, reality shows, absolute shit. The ratings may be high for those shows, but they are only high because they are extreme. Once people become censatized they must become more extreme. It's an arms race. Just look at the wedding shows of 3 years ago compared to todays. There's nothing about these shows that have lasting value or anything that's fundamentally entertaining about them.

    Zoidberg, now he's entertaining. The rubber band is on the other claw now!!

    1. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by cosmo7 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think when you said censatized you meant sensitized by which you meant desensitized and were really after the word inured.

      Otherwise you're totally right.

    2. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, the Simpsons is still on. I think you meant to say, "every single truly good show that isn't making money hand over fist for Fox, it cancels." Or words to that effect.

      I do, in that attenuated it's-only-a-TV-show-after-all way, fear that Arrested Development will be cancelled, though.

    3. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by princewally · · Score: 1

      No, Futurama was gone for a while before Oliver Beane.

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    4. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

      The Simpsons is the only reason Fox is still on the air.

      "Wouldn't be the first time" -- Bart

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    5. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I blame Fox's crummy programming for that poor chaps inability to use English. In an unrelated note, a Fox internal memo leaked today:

      Dumb down tv programming

      ?

      Profit!

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    6. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Kick+the+Donkey · · Score: 1
      Every single truly good show Fox gets it cancels. What is it replaced with? Midgets, people injuring themselves, TV bloopers, weddings, police chases, reality shows, absolute shit.

      Its not just Fox; Its every network. Look at the WB: Cancelling Angel, which, in my opinion, is some of the best tv on. But way stays on the WB? Shit like Charmed and High School Reunion. More reality garbage. Why is it so interesting about watching a bunch of dumbasses living there lives?

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    7. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      IIRC, Fox is now the number three network, having passed ABC.

      Who says shit doesn't sell!

    8. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That and a rather lucrative NFL contract. Sure, its only 17 weeks a year, but I watch all 17 of them.

    9. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by buysse · · Score: 2, Informative

      Two words. American Idol. Unfortunately.

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    10. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Spankophile · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmmm. let me just re-read your post again.


      Every single truly good show Fox gets it cancels.

      Okay.

      The ratings may be high for those [replacement] shows, [...]because they are extreme.


      Now, I'm no TV exec, but something tells me that canceling a show, and then replacing it with one that gets high ratings isn't such a dumb thing to do?

    11. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Dejitaru+Neko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you meant to say, "every single truly good show that isn't making money hand over fist for Fox, it cancels."

      Well, of course. As much as we geeks would like to see quality in the shows aired by a network, it is ultimately the viewership of the public in general which decides the shows we will see. Greater viewership leads to greater revenues for the network, and unfortunately enough, the trend is that money will win over quality.

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    12. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by B3ryllium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The point is that the reality shows have a big bang of ratings at the start, but they are not sustainable. They can't be rerun, they get progressively more "extreme" to conceptualize and produce, and they are basically eventually going to work themselves out of a market. Obviously there are a few exceptions to that statement (The Apprentice, Survivor, American Idol), but for the majority of reality shows ... you can only see people getting hurt in unique new ways so many times, before you start craving something with more substance (ER, The Simpsons, The Practice, Law and Order).

      So, replacing a show with one that gets higher ratings might be a good move in the short term, but if you put quality television on that draws viewers in with subtle and/or intelligent and/or entertaining plotlines, you will eventually get a locked-in core audience that can support your network's other endeavors. The Simpsons has such a locked in audience. That's why the current execs are so loathe to cancel it; while it sort of straddles the border between "good" tv and "fox" tv, it was given a chance to capture a core audience - it is now an unstoppable juggernaut.

      Fox needs to hold on to its potential juggernauts, and stop cancelling them! I mean, fer chrissakes ... stop changing timeslots, even! That would solve half the problems.

    13. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by ImpTech · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure Oliver Beane came well after Futurama was cancelled, and not in the same timeslot either. I hardly remember now, but I think King of the Hill took Futurama's slot when they ran out of episodes. Its there now anyway.

      Oh, and while Oliver Beane was a baaad show, it was still much better than the 9:30-10:00 show they had for a little while.... can't remember the name, but it was "from the producers of the simpsons", and it was godawful.

    14. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1
      Now, I'm no TV exec, but something tells me that canceling a show, and then replacing it with one that gets high ratings isn't such a dumb thing to do?

      What about syndication? I don't think those extreme reality shows that they are putting on are going to do well in syndication, because (1) they generally don't have enough episodes for syndication in the first place, and (2) there will be new extreme reality shows on that people will be watching--they aren't like sitcoms or dramas that be interesting years later.

      It could be a classic case of optimizing the wrong thing. "Look, we won in our time slot! We made slightly more ad revenue than NBC that half hour! We'll probably win again with our one rerun of this show! All they have is something that will generate steady income the next 10 years as it is shown dozens of times a year in syndication around the world"

    15. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The same reason that Extra show is still on the air. Peoples just loves ta gossip! "Oooo, did you hear what Simon said to that poor singer?" "Oooo, did you see who got voted off the Island?"

      The best part is, no scripts, no acting! Hey, it's a TV producer's dream.

    16. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by cft_128 · · Score: 1
      What about syndication? I don't think those extreme reality shows that they are putting on are going to do well in syndication, because (1) they generally don't have enough episodes for syndication in the first place, and (2) there will be new extreme reality shows on that people will be watching--they aren't like sitcoms or dramas that be interesting years later.

      I'm no TV exec, but I believe that most networks buy their big shows from 3rd party studios and don't necessarily get any later syndication cash. For example I looked up ER and found that it is produced by Constant c Productions, Amblin Television and Warner Bros. Television, I didn't see any NBC in any production credits that I could find. The studios that actually make the shows tend to lose money when they sell a show to a network, but make it back when they sell them in syndication to other networks/stations.

      Poking around more it appears that networks are getting into the role or producing their own shows by doing what is easy, reality shows, from a business standpoint, this makes a hell of a lot of sense to the networks.

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    17. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by orcus · · Score: 1

      Why is it so interesting about watching a bunch of dumbasses living there lives

      Unfortunately, the networks are carrying this kind of dreck because the majority of the audience wants it.
      Of course, this is that same majority that needs warning labels on hairdryers so they don't use them in the bathtub.

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    18. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by exley · · Score: 1

      The ratings may be high for those shows...

      And that's all that matters. Do you think execs care about whether or not something is truly funny or original? No, they care about what sponsors say, and sponsors care about ratings.

      What's "good" is in the eye of the beholder. The "beholder" is unfortunately usually a moron. This all coming from my biased standpoint of view, of course.

    19. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by subtillus · · Score: 1

      Hooray for pedants!

      Your sandwich heavy portfolio is finally showing a profit!

    20. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

      Least he was a funny pedant :)

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    21. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by nyseal · · Score: 1

      OMG......I couldn't agree more! It amazes me that this crap even GETS ratings and it's not just the little teenie Brittany wannabees that watch it, either. I am proud to say that the longest glimpse of that show I've ever seen was about 5 seconds...and THAT only happened because I was channel surfing.

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    22. Re:Hooray for Zoidberg by jnicholson · · Score: 1

      FYI, Charmed is not a reality show. HTH. HAND.

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  38. Why TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who needs TV anyway, I would pay a couple of bucks if fox (or anyone else) was selling a legal torrent or downloadable version of these episodes. DVDs are nice, but you have to wait, torrent files would be cheaper.

  39. Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! by Neuticle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!!!!!!!!!
    Except he's a giant killer robot santa with joy-seeking missiles

    Everybody sing along now!

    He knows when you are sleeping,
    He know when you're on the can,
    He'll hunt you down and blast your ass from here to Pakistan!
    Ohhhhhh
    You better not breathe,
    You better not move,
    You're better off dead, I'm telling you dude,
    Santa Claus is gunning you DOWN!!!!

    Run for your LIVES!!!!!

    God I love Futurama

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    1. Re:Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! by Juggler22 · · Score: 1

      You forgot the ZIM version:

      Bow down! Bow Down!
      Before the power of Santa!
      or Be crushed! Be crushed!
      By his mighty boots of DOOM!

      - Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants! The pants command me!
      God I love Invader ZIM.

    2. Re:Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! by ktulu1115 · · Score: 1

      I still think these are some of the best one-liners from Futurama (some of em you'd have to see in context):

      "Goddamn DSL!"
      "You know what always cheers me up? Laughing at other people's misfortunes"
      "No more cheap crack houses for me!"

      Bring it back!

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  40. Don't hold your breath... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    FOX executives know as much about entertainment, as FOX News execs do about news. You'd almost think they ran Sci-fi, I know! Let's replace Farscape with Tripping the Rift (aka Proof that Quebec is the humorless wasteland everyone thinks it is).

    What I would wish, is that we all get neilson boxes. And those boxes control one candy dispenser for, and one cattle prod rectally inserted inm each network executive. But the small amount of voltage contributed to either the candy machine or cattle prod is multiplied by the average IQ of the household where it resides.

    1. Re:Don't hold your breath... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hat I would wish, is that we all get neilson boxes. And those boxes control one candy dispenser for, and one cattle prod rectally inserted inm each network executive. But the small amount of voltage contributed to either the candy machine or cattle prod is multiplied by the average IQ of the household where it resides.

      Ha ha! I get it! It's cause you're like, smarter and stuff and should decide what everyone watches! And you think other people that are smart are going to want to watch the same things! I get it!

    2. Re:Don't hold your breath... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha! I get it! It's cause you can't close a damn <em> tag!

      Also, "It's cause" should at least read "It's cuz" if you want to sound like true trash. You know, cuz it's like, uhh, stuff ! And shit like that !

  41. Did? by tonyMontana69 · · Score: 0

    "Did, did you just, did you just tell me what I love?? hmmm??? Listen here you toad-faced frump, I LOVE PANCAKES!!!"

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  42. No one's posted this yet? Shame on you! by SuperMo0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Create insanely funny, brilliant show. Allow critics and internet forum readers to rave about said brilliance while it airs on FOX.
    2. Allow FOX to cancel your series after a few seasons.
    3. Send out a couple of DVDs that sell millions of copies.
    4. Air reruns on Cartoon Network that become insanely popular.
    5. ???
    6. PROFIT!

    1. Re:No one's posted this yet? Shame on you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      5. Force Fox to start series again because it kicks ass and make more money.

  43. Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by ScottGant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the new Fox lineup starting at 8pm, 7 central:

    8:00 = The Simpsons

    8:30 = Futurama (Oliver Bean was funnier when it was called "The Wonder Years")

    9:00 = The Family Guy (Malcome in the Middle should be Malcom in the Unemployment line)

    9:30 = Arrested Development (this is a GREAT show, please keep it idiots)

    Please note, there are no laugh tracks in any of the above shows...as you don't need to tell us when something is funny. (Animated before a live audience?)

    Also, Fox WILL stop from the idiotic news teases such as "Alarming news about a certain new food you could be eating right at this very moment that could instantly kill you...we'll tell you about it at 10pm".

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    1. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by hotspotbloc · · Score: 4, Funny
      (Animated before a live audience?)

      This has been tried before but the artist's hands got very sore half way through the show.

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    2. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by TrentL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think any day from Monday to Thursday, from 8:00pm onward, would be a great time. The Sunday pre-8:00pm timeslot SUCKS. It sends a message that a show isn't important, and it's inconvenient. I'm usually watching 60 Minutes at that point.

    3. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by orkysoft · · Score: 1, Funny

      Painstakingly drawn before a live audience!

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    4. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

      just wanted to say that indeed, Arrested Development is a fantastic show, by far the funniest thing since, umm.. family guy and futurama. knowing fox, it will be cancelled. jackasses.

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    5. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by G-funk · · Score: 4, Funny

      "No, Homer. Very few cartoons are broadcast live, it's a terrible strain on the animators' wrists."

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    6. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Reducer2001 · · Score: 1

      No if only they would start producing Simpson's episodes that weren't wall to wall self-referring humor, we'd be on to something!

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    7. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm usually watching football at that point ... on FOX.

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    8. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by utahjazz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please note, there are no laugh tracks in any of the above shows

      Not yet. Anyone remember when Comedy Central picked up "Sports Night" and added a laugh track to it? It was downright creepy.

      Imagine someone taking your favorite drama, and adding a laugh track to the 'funny' parts.

      Bones: "Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor not a cement mixer!"
      [laughter]

      Cipher: "I don't even see the codes anymore, just blonde..brunette"
      [laughter]

      Luke: "More than you can imagine"
      Han: "I can imagine a lot"
      [laughter]

    9. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is absolutely 100% true - Arrested Development has got to be one of the best new shows this season. It's brutally funny, and often is such a subtle way that you use the -7sec button on Tivo several times per episode simply to satisfy the "was that what I think it was?" urge.

      If FOX cancels this show, it's proof that they're total dolts.

    10. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Chewie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, and add Greg the Bunny in there. Any show with Eugene Levy, Seth Green, and Bob Gunton has my vote.

      "I'm afraid this weekend's no good for me. I was planning on spending the weekend in wine country, which is what I call the room above my garage."

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    11. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Beardydog · · Score: 2, Funny

      The first time I saw it luagh-tracked, it was all I could do to watch in mute, slack-jawed horror. Then my friend took me too a celebrirt baseball game with Casey in it, because she thought he was cute. Meatloaf stood in the outfield blowing plumes of water, and at some point commented on the fact that I was wedged between two girls in the stands.

      What was I saying?

      Oh, yeah. Laugh track bad. And Adult Swim is the best thing to happen to television since my decision to stop watching The Simpsons (which was a brilliant revolution in observed quality). I'm sure I'd enjoy more Futurama, but this is one of the few times that I have to say I wouldn't mind it staying dead. The last episodes were beautiful, and provided closure for me, and getting more would be like getting back with an old girlfriend for a year of awkward attempted romance, knowing full well it couldn't last.

    12. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You know, some of us *DO* watch Malcolm in the Middle. It's a really well written show. The plots are clever and original and the acting is great.

      Oliver Beene hasn't been on in months (yet another Fox shitpile). They've been playing Bernie Mac reruns instead...and that show's starting to grow on me.

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    13. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Ath · · Score: 1

      and don't forget The Tick.... Except both Greg the Bunny and The Tick sucked. Such wasted potential.

    14. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by linzeal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Real football or American? I am attempting to branch out into sports and for the life of me cannot stand the NFL with 2-10 second 'plays'. I had childhood ADD and I still could not imagine trying to pay attention to a sport like that. The obligatory and hightly annoying commericial breaks showing overwrought he-men virtual livliehoods that half of America tries to emulate; and poorly I might add, only sends me reeling back to more suitable forms of entertainment like baiting transients with canadian change.

    15. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Chewie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll agree with you on The Tick. It had a lot of potential that just didn't click. I think if they hadn't burned through cash like nothing, it could have worked.

      GTB, on the other hand, made me laugh every single episode. Some didn't like it, others thought it was great. I am clearly in the latter camp.

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    16. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Fox gave Futurama up. I don't think they should be given the chance to preempt it with football again.

    17. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by kaltkalt · · Score: 1, Insightful

      a lot of the humor in AD is so subtle that most people are too stupid to get it (especially w/out a laugh track to tell them when something funny happens). this is probably AD's downfall. what a shame.

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    18. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like Malcolm a lot as well. They took a few episodes before they really began to get funny, but now they are very consistently funny, IMO. Also, if i'm not mistaken, they are another show without a laugh-track.

    19. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real football IS American football, you insensitive (European, I presume) clod.

    20. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1
      I'll agree with you on The Tick. It had a lot of potential that just didn't click. I think if they hadn't burned through cash like nothing, it could have worked.
      I loved "The Tick". I loved a "super-hero" with the line, "I saved her. I saved her three times if you know what I mean."
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    21. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by bravehamster · · Score: 1

      And don't forget Sarah Silverman! What a hottie...and she's a completely disgusting geek too...sigh.

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    22. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Most Fox comedies don't have laugh tracks these days.

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    23. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I *loved* the tick live action series. Not many people didbut I think it was perhaps just a bit subtle/smart for American audiences.

    24. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Izago909 · · Score: 1

      You forgot the part where most of its time is cut into by a pro sports game. That's what killed Futurama to begin with.

    25. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      I only watch TV one night a week, Fox on Sunday, and I do like Malcom and family, I have teenage boys and that's how I learn to raise them. And it's one of the few shows I watch that isn't a cartoon.

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    26. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      And I love Futurama, this is great news to me, sorry for replying to my own post. It seems to be a no-no.

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    27. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Chewie · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, and Jimmy Kimmel gets her.

      Hey, Sarah! If you wanted fat and not funny, I could have toned down my sense of humor for you, baby!

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    28. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Dog135 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On an animation forum I'm on, we talked about this. If you get enough artists together, and do the animatics ahead of time, you can actually do it.

      But you'd need 3600 animators, each given 5 minutes to finish a frame, or 720 animators with 1 minute per frame.

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    29. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 0

      Sorry, American football. I guess it's an acquired taste.

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    30. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by TheVidiot · · Score: 1

      Now that's funny... and me without mod points!

    31. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by ScottGant · · Score: 1

      Not really, you notice that I put Futurama after the Simpsons at 8:00, by then most of the games are over...and if they aren't, they still play the Simpsons etc etc from the beginning.

      You were thinking of when Futurama was on at 7:00, 6:00 central time...then yes, they would always get cut.

      Maybe Oliver Bean and Malcome in the Middle can go at 7:00 and 7:30 during football season.

      Or perhaps tell the NFL hey, your game will end at 7:00...I mean, they can edit out a lot of the games since they're all filmed 6 months in advance in the same hanger they faked the moon landings in....but I digress.

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    32. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by kwiqsilver · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The reason fox doesn't like Futurama or Family Guy (and kept moving them around and eventually gave them crappy time slots) is ownership.
      Fox wants to own every show on Fox. Groening owns Futurama. Fox would rather show a stupid show it owns (like Oliver Beane) that gets worse ratings, but gives Fox a lionshare of the profits.

    33. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah too bad she's a total lesbian. As is pretty much every female comedian.

    34. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by lineinthesand · · Score: 1

      So - you do have too much free time? Let's switch!

    35. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2, Funny
      Animated before a live audience?

      They're called puppet shows. Yuck.

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    36. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by kirk444 · · Score: 1

      It would seem that dropping shows that are most popular is more profitable then keeping them around... maybe they're worried that they're bandwidth costs will rise as more viewers tune-in. Oh, that's right, they're funded with advertising, so more viewers=more money! strange. Maybe they got mad at all the FOX jokes in the shows... A bit of revenge.

    37. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Izago909 · · Score: 1

      You know not of the backward state known as Indiana. Around here daylight savings time is a communist tool of the devil and is not tolerated.

    38. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you're in a border county, well a few of them at least...

    39. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Mike+Hawk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Slashdotter - Corporations seek to profit!

      Moderators - +1 Insightful!

    40. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully the rest of the world will catch on. All that resetting of clocks is a pita.

    41. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by mini+me · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to mention that Futurama was always preempted due to Football. How does FOX expect a show to get good ratings when it's never on? Is there not something wrong when the general public understands FOX's marketing better than they do themselves?

    42. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beene is (was?) funny. Example: When one classmate was giving nicknames to all the others, he acquired his own nickname, which was "Nickname". Which one character described as "not modern, but whatever's going to come after modern".

    43. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdotter1 - Parent pointed out the obvious.

      Slashdotter2 - It's not obvious who owns which program.

      Moderators - *zzzzzz*

    44. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by ScottGant · · Score: 1

      But you also know that when NFL season comes around, daylight savings time is gone.

      And yes, while I admire Indiana snubbing the idiotic Daylight Savings time, it is kind of a pain for the people that live there in the Michiana area trying to adjust to when programs come on...

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    45. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simpsons hasn't been even remotely funny in at least four years. Just because it's animated doesn't make it good.

      Family guy and Futuama rock though.

    46. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by RotJ · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Clerks" the animated series was alternately "filmed before a live studio audience", "drawn before a live studio audience", "filmed by a live studio audience", and "drawn by a live studio audience". Having it drawn by the live studio audience is a good idea. It saves a lot of money.

    47. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by qkw · · Score: 0

      They did that for family guy on episode

      only the audience was animated too, and were put in bleachers just in front of the griffin's house.

      and peter was oh so close to calling the cops on them all

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    48. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crap, any show with Sarah Silverman on it has my vote.

      Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to fantasize about what Sarah Silverman looks like while listening to her on Crank Yankers... bet you thought it was just the show's name, right?

    49. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by 0racle · · Score: 1

      Futurama - Painstakenly drawn before a live studio audience

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    50. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Oh yes.

      Hi-larious.

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    51. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by frs_rbl · · Score: 1

      You certainly do have much free time... not that I don`t have it myself

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    52. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      (Animated before a live audience?)

      "Very few cartoons are broadcast live. It's a terrible strain on the animator's wrist."

    53. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It was ABC that forced the laugh track to be added, not Comedy Central. Of course, the laugh track was lessened over the course of the show anyway, eventually leading to no canned laughter at all by the second season (as it should be). Watching the second season on ABC then the first again on Comedy Central, you'd probably notice how out of place the laughter was right away, which is why you thought Comedy Central did it.

    54. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

      One thing I never got.. In American Football the ball only touches the foot at kick-off's, punts and field goal attempts?

    55. Re:Hey Fox, Let me program Sundays for you by geoffspear · · Score: 1

      Yes, and in baseball, the ball only touches the base by accident. What's your point? And don't even get me started about the % of total rugby games that are actually playing in Rugby.

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  44. News From The Fox Boardroom by cdavies · · Score: 5, Funny

    *Buzzing Sounds* (Together) We will reinstate Futurama... All glory to the hypnotoad.

    1. Re:News From The Fox Boardroom by Enigma2175 · · Score: 2, Funny
      *Buzzing Sounds* (Together) We will reinstate Futurama... All glory to the hypnotoad.

      "Everybody Loves HypnoToad" has been going downhill since season 3.

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    2. Re:News From The Fox Boardroom by JustinXB · · Score: 1

      Maybe you forgot about the Excubots in season 4.

    3. Re:News From The Fox Boardroom by bar-agent · · Score: 1
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  45. Let's fighting love by bangular · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're telling me you didn't laugh at let's fighting love? and butters getting a throwing star in his eye? or "you got served"?

    1. Re:Let's fighting love by karnal · · Score: 1

      Or handicapped kids training for the special olympics, and a steroid pusher talking Jimmy into buying steroids?

      "Gotta keep the vice off of my back."

      HILARIOUS.

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    2. Re:Let's fighting love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You got served" was funny for about two or three minutes and then the joke got old.

    3. Re:Let's fighting love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm confused. Are you talking about the movie, or the South Park episode?

    4. Re:Let's fighting love by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      The end where they showed the baseball players ("Big Mac" is the only one I can remember off the top of my head) while giving the anti-steroid lecture was pretty priceless, too. :)

    5. Re:Let's fighting love by matt_gaia · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, if I remember correctly, it was McGuire, Barry Bonds, and Jason Giambi, and most definitely priceless. Brought back memories of an episode they did a few years back when they did the same spiel to the Ramsey Family and OJ and they were talking about killers.

    6. Re:Let's fighting love by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Wasn't that just last year - when Butters was kidnaped/ran away and his parents went to that support group with Senator Whatshisname (the one who had the missing intern which was "forgoten about" after 9/11), the Ramseys, and OJ where they were supporting each other after the "mysterious" disappearance of people?

    7. Re:Let's fighting love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (muffled 20's phonograph voice)

      I've got something in my front pocket for you...

    8. Re:Let's fighting love by taernim · · Score: 2, Funny

      Awesome-O thinks South Park is... awesome. ;-)

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    9. Re:Let's fighting love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better still. The steroid pusher had Down's Syndrome, and was talking about coordinating an international drug ring.

      Great episode.

    10. Re:Let's fighting love by matt_gaia · · Score: 1

      Actually, IIRC, it was "The Butters Show" episode (12/12/01) from Season 5 when they did the whole OJ/Ramseys thing. Butters found his dad at a gay mans' bath house, and his Mom was trying to kill him because he knew. Then, I believe she blamed a Puerto Rican for it.

    11. Re:Let's fighting love by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 1
      Senator Whatshisname (the one who had the missing intern which was "forgoten about" after 9/11)
      That'd be Gary Condit
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  46. You guys, you crack me up by Rogerborg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I love each and every one of you, with your crazy "But I love it and I'm teh smart!" arguments.

    Look around you, dear hearts. Do you see a Neilsen box? No? Then nobody who matters cares what you think. Accept it, and move on.

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    1. Re:You guys, you crack me up by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      Do I know you? You guys all look alike to me.

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  47. totally an accident by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

    Yeah, they canceled the shows "by mistake" and that's why they're bringing em back...

    Or is just that they took it away, brought it back as "new coke" and sold it for twice the price?

    I mean I like the cartoons and all but mostly I catch them by accident. E.g. flipping channels and happen to hit on it. I'm not really that excited that they're "back on the air" because that's what they want you to think.

    Tom

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  48. Sarcasm by beders · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow! web based petitions really do work!

    1. Re:Sarcasm by hambonewilkins · · Score: 1

      I just read your title. To clarify to suckers, it was DVD sales that prompted the return of Family Guy, not web petitions.

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  49. Almost a wish come true by CleverNickedName · · Score: 1

    Now if they can only ditch Matt Groening, all would be well in this perfect world.

    If the DVD commentaries are anything to go by, that guy's spends his time trampling over any ideas he doesn't immediately understand and blurting out random whims. At least he brings the money.

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    1. Re:Almost a wish come true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now if they can only ditch Matt Groening, all would be well in this perfect world.

      If the DVD commentaries are anything to go by, that guy's spends his time trampling over any ideas he doesn't immediately understand and blurting out random whims. At least he brings the money.


      He invented Futurama, so why would anyone ditch him? From what I read (sometime, somewhere, can't remember the source) he spent one or two years just researching Sci-fi stuff just so there was enough base material to parody.

      I doubt firing him would improve Futurama.

  50. Looks like you'll get your wish by UnixRevolution · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again.

    Movie Tome has an entry for a Firefly movie called "Serenity" that will start filming later this year and be ready by 2005. Hopefully it'll be successful and spawn another set of episodes or at the very least more movies. I'd link it but tv tome and movie tome aren't responding to me right now.

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    1. Re:Looks like you'll get your wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it should be enough - from what I've read Joss W managed to secure $35m funding and reassemble the original cast for the firefly movie.

    2. Re:Looks like you'll get your wish by Rayston · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those who read slashdot, they already posted about the fact that the Firefly Movie has been greenlit.

      Firefly Movie Gets The Green Light

      Also check out
      FireFlyFans.net for all new firefly gabbing and info.
      and
      Whedonesque.com for all Joss Whedon News.

    3. Re:Looks like you'll get your wish by Danse · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's just me, but after watching the first 2 episodes of Firefly, I really didn't see what was so great about it. It was pretty formulaic. I really thought it would be better, but I just couldn't get into it. Does it get better after those 2 or what?

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    4. Re:Looks like you'll get your wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully they'll add some actual "sci fi" to the movie, rather than giving us more of the same old western space opera stuff.

    5. Re:Looks like you'll get your wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had trouble getting into Firefly when it first aired too. Over time it kinda grew on me, but I never thought it was all that great.. until I saw the series on DVD! It's amazing how much more sense that whole show makes when you see the pilot first (*grumble grumble. Stupid FOX execs... grumble grumble*). The whole show works a lot better after you have been given an proper introduction to the characters and thier world. The ep that FOX aired first (The Train Job) was probably the weakest ep of the whole series and it made for a pretty lame intro... Especially after hearing thier advertising campaign ("and a girl in a box") and then never actually finding out what the hell they meant until the pilot finally aired - last!

    6. Re:Looks like you'll get your wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes. The best episodes are #6 "Our Mrs. Reynolds" (funniest), #8 "Out Of Gas" (dramatic), and #10 "Objects In Space" (for sheer brilliance)

  51. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by eXoXe · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I agree, Futurama sucked and shouldn't make a return. I also agree that Family Guy should come out with some new shows!

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  52. Yay! More Hypno Toad by CrackedButter · · Score: 2, Funny


    TV: All Hail the Hypno Toad. MMMMMMMM
    Fry: This show has been going downhill since season 3.

  53. I like Futurama and all, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    This was published and on the newstands about 3 weeks ago and it was presented as a big maybe. How do you get a slashdot story out of this anyway?

  54. Family Guy - why it's good by GoneGaryT · · Score: 1, Insightful
    It's extremely well observed. Being paraplegic myself, I can vouch for much of the characterisation of Joe ("Let's do it!", over-reaction to failure, attitudes of other people, access problems, babe of a wife... no, wait...). I'm told that the Seth man says (in the boxed set DVD edition with all the extras and trimmings which came out a week after I bought all 3 seasons seperately damn you Fox Home Entertainment may your death be painful) these characters are based on real people in RI.

    I'm very glad they're making more. "It's a jackal!"

    1. Re:Family Guy - why it's good by pogle · · Score: 1

      Jim: "It's A JACKAL! A JACKAL! IS IT A JACKAL?! JACKAL! IT LOOKS LIKE A JACKAL! JACKAL! IT'S A JACKAL!"

      Abby: "Time!"

      Stewie: "It wasn't right the first time you said it, why the hell would it be right the next 10 times...GOD!

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    2. Re:Family Guy - why it's good by hambonewilkins · · Score: 2, Informative

      How did you possibly buy all 3 seasons separately? I assume you also meant "bootleg" in there. To my knowledge, the 4-disc DVD set of Seasons 1 and 2 and the 3-disc set of the 3rd season are the only official releases.

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      God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
    3. Re:Family Guy - why it's good by GoneGaryT · · Score: 1
      Nope. Season one: 2-disc DVD, season two: 2-disc DVD, season three: 3 x 1-disc DVD seperately packaged but all in a carton. Not bootleg. UK & Ireland release.

      Stewie: "What did we learn?"

    4. Re:Family Guy - why it's good by hambonewilkins · · Score: 1

      Sorry, assumed you lived in the US, and hence got the US packages.

      --

      God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
  55. Re:FP by EricWright · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hello... "Do the executives ever watch these programs...?"

    Well, yes... they probably do. But, since they're executives, there's a slim chance that they're also geeky enough to "get" Futurama. Futurama was packed with side jokes related to programming, physics, linguistics, etc. No executive worth his washroom key would understand any of that...

  56. Fox Execs by Paulrothrock · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't know why it's doing so poorly! All we did is move its timeslot around and then preempt it with sports that its target audience doesn't want to watch.

    [as] is like the nice, sweet geek friend who loves a girl (great cartoons) who's with a horrible boyfriend (Fox). He treats her wrong, and she runs to her geek. But as soon as she's feeling better, the dumbass boyfriend wants her back.

    I'm not sure how to feel about this. Part of me says "woo hoo! New Episodes!" But another part says "Now it will be in the mainstream again, complete with lots of disgusting, annoying commercials and no funny cards."

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    I'm in the hole of the broadband donut.
  57. And in related news... by Java+Pimp · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Matt Groening will be guest starring as himself this Sunday on the Simpsons in his first speaking role!

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    Kull: She told me she was 19!
    1. Re:And in related news... by hambonewilkins · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Matt Groening will be guest starring as himself this Sunday on the Simpsons in his first speaking role!

      Proof positive that the jumping of the shark has commenced. Seriously, stick a fork in it, it's no longer funny. What used to be the greatest sitcom of "ALL TIME!" is now pretty weak and is painful for me to watch.

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      God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
  58. Your link was borked......... by Ride-My-Rocket · · Score: 2, Informative

    Remember, HTML is your friend....... go here for the goodness.

  59. could never get into it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really never saw the appeal of Futurama, even though I was a big Simpsons fan. I tried watching it and giving it a chance, many times, but every time I watched it I couldn't help but see Peggy Bundy whenever the one-eyed chick talked.

  60. Futurama probably won't come back by David_Bloom · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I love Futurama, it really was the best show on television, but I think the reference to its "revival" in this article is just some stupid reporter misinterpreting some stuff somebody told them. We'd have gotten a more official, specific news article about this if the show was really being revived.


    Now, Family Guy, on the other hand, has a shot - I've seen articles about its possible revival thanks to strong DVD sales.


    Everyone, put your CSS and region-control concerns behind you, and buy a fuckload of Futurama DVDs.

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    1. Re:Futurama probably won't come back by orkysoft · · Score: 1
      Everyone, put your CSS and region-control concerns behind you, and buy a fuckload of Futurama DVDs.

      I already did.

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      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
    2. Re:Futurama probably won't come back by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      They make fantastic birthday gifts to kids.

  61. Spoon! by Art_XIV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if only Fox would bring the back The Tick. (The animated version! The animated version!)

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    The only thing that we learn from history is that nobody learns anything from history.
    1. Re:Spoon! by Tzarius · · Score: 1

      Damn straight, the L.A. version had its moments but the cartoon has much tighter editing and freedom to do really weird stuff, like PigLeg (The Deadly Bulb).

      Freakazoid needs a mention too... who doesn't love surreal humour?

  62. That's not why people watch TV... by spoodie · · Score: 1

    "That's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid and unexpected things make them feel scared."

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    I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind shines.
  63. Futureama will NOT be coming back by BlahBlah109 · · Score: 1

    This news has already been reported before, and every time the creators of the show said they will not be bringing it back as it would segment too much of their time which they need for other projects

  64. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by Christianfreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't like Futurama you probably didn't get the jokes. :)

  65. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up!

    God, that's the very reason the show got canceled: it was too smart for its audience.

    It's sort of like telling redneck jokes in Alabama... NOBODY gets it.

  66. Where's that 'Hopefully' mod when you need it... by tjwhaynes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Movie Tome has an entry for a Firefly movie called "Serenity" that will start filming later this year and be ready by 2005. Hopefully it'll be successful and spawn another set of episodes or at the very least more movies.

    You've got to hope that someone holding the money sees the light. A friend lent me the DVD box set of the Firefly episodes (as I'd missed them all first time around) and I'm hooked. I'm also totally pissed off that when I get to the end of Disc 4 there isn't any more to go round, so I'm praying that the movie is good enough to get another series going.

    Cheers,

    Toby Haynes

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    Anything I post is strictly my own thoughts and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the opinions of IBM.
  67. Simpsons turn around? by asoap · · Score: 1
    For the last couple of years the simpsons have been following a downward motion.

    But I've been a pretty big fan of this past season. The episode this season with Homer taking over Ziff Corp. was amaizing. Anytime you can sneak in a theremin joke, or a USA loves Saddam Hussein joke, you know you are dealing with gold.

    -asoap

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    Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
    1. Re:Simpsons turn around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that episode wasn't that great. I only remember the theremin part being funny. Oh, and all the other Jon Lovitz characters in Moe's. Though, I would say season 15 in general is better than season 14, but not by a whole lot.

    2. Re:Simpsons turn around? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      all the other Jon Lovitz characters in Moe's

      I agree, that was pretty funny... As an aside, ever notice that whenever Lovitz does voice-over work, he always sings at some point? I think he must write it into his contract. In that episode, he only sang during a "thought sequence" in a Rockettes parody, but it was still singing. Take a look, he does it every time!

  68. The real reason FG got canceled ... by zonix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... was because Seth MacFarlane's old school headmaster got the sponsors of the show to pull out.

    Of course it's total BS, but he's the real person to blame for this, not the Fox execs, as such. What could they do? No money, no deal, right?

    BTW, Family Guy rocks! Go Family Guy! :-)

    z
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    1. Re:The real reason FG got canceled ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you give that guy too much credit.

      As with many shows, Fox killed it with inconsistent and poor scheduling. If I remember right, FG was up against Friends much of the time...

    2. Re:The real reason FG got canceled ... by JoeShmoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can't find the article, but Family Guy's greatest opponent was Catholic advocacy groups. Family Guy was 100 times harder on Catholism than Judism or the handicapped. Practically every episode had some dig, from...

      Peter: "We need a book to potty train our son."
      Clerk: "This is the most popular book 'Everybody Poops'. It has won many awards"
      Peter: "Ah, we're Catholic"
      Clerk: "Oh in that case you'll want "You're a Very Bad Boy and That's Concentrated Evil Coming Out of You'"

      to the numerous episode where the Pope get placed in undignified positions or hob-nobs with the Griffin family members with-a da cheezy-a Italiana accento. Not to mention Peter's stereotypical Irish Catholic father role...and his overly-stereotypical Irish Catholic father.

      Anyway, Catholics are a rather large group, and I think enough letters were written to get FOX nervous. Supposedly, outrage from Catholic groups over the first pope episode was the reason it was put on hiatus the first time, only it won an Emmy that year so FOX decided it was worth the risk...but when ratings failed to materialize from the award (thanks to timeslot shuffle) the continued pressure from Catholic groups finally made FOX buckle.

      This was like five years ago, so I have no clue where to look for the article, but it made sense to me.

      - JoeShmoe
      .

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      -- I wonder which will go down in history as the bigger failure: the War on Drugs or the War on Filesharing
  69. Never really got into Futurama by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I was a huge Simpsons fan, until I got tired of 50% of all the writing being a parody of something else. But it was a great show, regardless. Futurama...well, I tried to watch it a couple of times, and I didn't get it. I saw how it was trying to be funny, but it was so forced.

    Now King of the Hill...there's a slickly written and funny show. It has lines which are completely brilliant, without just being throwaways or parodies of other shows or movies.

    1. Re:Never really got into Futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretended I modded you either as "funny" or "troll" for the comment praising King of the Hill. I couldn't possibly fail to disagree with you any less.

  70. Death... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Death, we must keep in touch, he is my e-mail, LouisMustDIE@yahoo.com" Stewie.

    Did any one ever write to that, I did, I actually became a mailing list for the partition to keep Family Guy on Fox, I wonder if it still works??

    1. Re:Death... by hyperstation · · Score: 1

      well it probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere, cuz he actually said "loismustdie@yahoo.com", not louis...

  71. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by mrscorpio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, that's why Jeff Foxworthy isn't popular at all....NOT.

    Chris

  72. Interesting by cubicledrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't it? How something has to be canceled before anybody notices it was doing well? Someone needs to figure out what it is about middle management that makes them insist on canceling/firing/destroying as a first alternative for everything.

    Profits down? Fire people. Ratings down? Cancel it. Not making seven figures pure pocket-stuffing profit a day? Destroy it. What if these guys worked in agriculture? They'd probably bulldoze the whole fucking farm because they weren't shipping truckloads of wheat bread and salsa by Thursday.

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    Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
  73. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thats what you like to tell yourself to feel smart then fine, whatever. Personally I thought the jokes in Futurama were few and far between, and the ones that were there were weak at best. Futurama was little more than Simpons: 3001

    Family Guy has a very dark edge to it that Matt Groening could never hope to capture. If you can get the humour in Family Guy you can sure as hell get any humour in Futurama, if it were there.

  74. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +1, Ironic.

  75. Actually.... by dackroyd · · Score: 2, Insightful


    You are one hundred percent wrong.

    Decent cartoons actually cost far more than the crap reality shows to make. Alledgedly Futurama cost something like $1 million dollars an episode to produce, due to it's high quality animation.

    Thats why Fox canned them in the first place - they did it to bump their short term profits.

    However quality shows like Futurama and Family Guy have much greater long term value - they can be shown on TV for years and DVD sales are also very great - whereas who gives a rats ass about last years reality shows ? And who wants to watch repeats of them for years on end ?

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  76. what else. by sir_ze0 · · Score: 1

    I miss Alf.

  77. AXE.slashdot.org by samhalliday · · Score: 1
    AXE.slashdot.org

    damn you and your archane language!

  78. This is excellent news by jayhawk88 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nice to see that Futurama may have a second chance at getting pre-empted for football every week and shuffled throughout the Fox lineup until Ethan Fucking Edwards couldn't find it.

    This is still Fox we're talking about people. If both Futurama and Family Guy do end up coming back, don't expect the second coming or anything. They'll get some hype when they first come back, get thrown into some God awful time slot when American Idol: This Time It's Personal goes on the air, and will be forgotten by 90% of this country inside of 3 weeks.

  79. Zim's humor wasn't meant for Nickelodeon by katz · · Score: 1

    I can understand how Zim's humor was considered by Nickelodeon to be too "goth". Perhaps Zim would have had a different fate if it aired on a channel where it could interest a wider audience -- for example,on Comedy Central.
    Comedy Central already has South Park and Tripping the Rift; Zim, with its non-sexual themes, could round this out nicely.

  80. Hey this looks promising/not promising by FreeTheFurniture! · · Score: 1
    Here's another article with some interesting insight. Let me sum up:

    Familiy Guy - is back in production of Fox! Yay! (airing early 2005)
    Futurama - isn't. Booo! The article says the production costs are too high. (...but stay tuned)

  81. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by lucas+teh+geek · · Score: 0

    who the hell is jeff foxworthy? an american pollie or someone?

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  82. Futurama coming back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... I'm so excited I wish I could wet my pants!

  83. So many cancellations... by Wateshay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, if Fox were to bring back all the great shows they've cancelled over the years, they could singlehandedly wipe out reality TV (largely because they wouldn't have any time to show it).

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    "If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for everyone else."

    1. Re:So many cancellations... by Stubtify · · Score: 1

      yea I'm just waiting for Herman's Head to come out on DVD so the sales can make them rethink that one.

      On a more serious note, Parker Lewis Can't lose would really be a good one on DVD.

  84. I'd Go A More Direct To Video Route by EXTomar · · Score: 1

    Although it might be harder to produce, I'm getting a feeling that Fox shouldn't even bother because they'll just end up abusing whatever timeslot they put the (new) Futurama on by pre-empting football or nascar or some Fox News thingy. They need programming that they deem "throw away" to fill in the gaps and its not going to be The Simpsons or some reality TV show.

    I suspect the reasons why these are being disucssed at all are actually two fold. One is clearly the popularity in [adult swim]'s block on Cartoon Network. The other is selling through well on the DVD market.

    Fox execs will see CN and the DVD producers (as well as a good penny for Groening and MacFarlane) making a load of cash on both shows and will probably make the same mistake *again*. I don't mind though. In the end that just means more epsiodes for CN and more DVDs.

  85. Brimstone by natedawg282 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Fox killed this show back in 1999 and man I wish everyday they'd bring back that show. It was about a cop who's wife got raped. He caught the guy who did it and killed him. He dies a couple months later and goes to hell. Ten years later, 113 demons escape from hell and the devil sends the cop after em. Go get some of eps at suprnova.

  86. The truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is I pay for this and spend more time on it then I EVER have any television program.

    and it's a lot like a cartoon! only with interaction. Why waste time with TV when you can be doing something that stimulates?

  87. Off topic, but ive seen it said many times here by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    What is the big hairy deal with Firefly?
    I watched the first two episodes.
    That thing stunk worse than a turd on the sidewalk in August.
    It is clearly a live action ripoff of the much touted and clever Cowboy Bebop.
    Anime should be left anime, and crap shows should be cancelled.
    Some things are just better left as animation.

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    1. Re:Off topic, but ive seen it said many times here by ChiperSoft · · Score: 1

      > I watched the first two episodes.
      > That thing stunk worse than a turd on the sidewalk in August.

      You just answered your own question. Very few shows are good the first few episodes. Look at TNG, most of the first season had horrible acting. You have to give the cast time to flesh into their characters. Firefly didn't get really good until about the sixth episode.

      It also didn't help that Fox didn't air the Pilot until after the show was canceled.

  88. Sweet Zombie Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Do you people know nothing about Futurama? That was a reference to Benders Top Ten Words List.

    ie.
    10. Chump
    09. Chumpette
    08. Yours
    07. Up
    06. Pimpmobile
    05. Bite
    04. My
    03. Shiny
    02. Daffadill
    01. Ass

  89. Please!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please bring Futurama back. With a lot more Amy Wong in skimpy outfits.

  90. Firefly-related web sites by will_edit_for_food · · Score: 3, Informative

    Firefly fans need not live alone, cowering and huddled in a corner, confused that one of the best shows on TV since Babylon 5 went to cable. Now we can cower in front of our computer monitors, trying to make sense of it all: www.fireflyfans.net www.whedonesque.com

  91. Obligatory TV is evil comment. by Stele · · Score: 1

    Go outside, read a book, or more likely, spend all your time 'watching' the Internet instead.

  92. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by hambonewilkins · · Score: 1

    If you don't like N*Sync, you probably didn't get their music

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    God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
  93. "Woo, hoo!" by atlacatl · · Score: 1

    Futurama was on of the best TV shows. You can go wrong with repeats - And of course you can get all the information you can handle at gotfuturama.com.

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    Esta es una firma en Espanol.
  94. mod parent DOWN; -1's too good for that blasphemy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    EOM

  95. Firefly's Hope by catphile · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not only is the movie Serenity in pre-production, but the good folks at Universal asked Joss Whedon to rework the script. And the rumored reson was to make the movie a potential launching platform for... a television program.

    It all will depend on how many people I can drag to the movie.

    1. Re:Firefly's Hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      catphile

      Where did you hear the rumor about the rework?

  96. the network execubots are here! by protohiro1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Director: The network Execubots are coming!

    Calculon: Dear God!

    [Enter three huge clunky robots on tracks.] Betabot: Presenting the president of the network.

    Network President: Greetings gentlemen, you already know my Execubots. Executive Alpha, programmed to like things that are seen before.

    Alphabot: Hey hey hey.

    Network President: Executive Beta, programmed to roll dice to determine the fall schedule.

    [Betabot rolls two dice.]

    Betabot: More reality shows.

    Network President: And Executive Gamma, programmed to underestimate middle America.

    Gammabot: It's funny but is it going to get them off their tractors?

    Network President: Now, who put this obnoxious dancing robot on my network?

    Director: We were about to fire him sir.

    Network President: Silence hack! We've been monitoring our Nielsen families carefully and during the 12 seconds Bender was on screen, viewer eyeball focus was up 90%.

    Calculon: Sir, children watch this show. Bender's no role model, he's a filth monger!

    Network President: At our network, we love filth! Filthy rich that is! Being filthy rich that is! [He laughs. something fizzles towards the Execubots from the president and they all laugh with him.] "Bite my shiny metal ass" could be a catchphrase.

    Alphabot: 80% likely.

    Gammabot: It will play in Peoria.

    [Betabot rolls his dice.]

    Betabot: Gameshows are back.

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  97. I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The thing is, Futurama was one of those shows that was driven by one character's unrequited love for another. (Although I suppose there are some who'll argue that it was driven by comedy. Pshaw!) It ended with a story where it looked like Fry and Leela were finally getting together, though the writers left some wiggle room. Now, what would happen in a new season? Either:

    1. The writers take advantage of that wiggle room -- no, Fry and Leela didn't really get together; he's still pining for her, she's still turning him down. That's depressing, after everything that happened in the finale. I don't want to see that.

    2. They DO get together, and live happily ever after. I'm glad for them, but I don't want to watch that. It's boring. That's why "happily ever after" is always at the end of the story. It's a nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit.

    Alternatively, they could get together, and then have it not work out. That's even more depressing than the first option.

    OK, so I'm a hopeless romantic.

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    1. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by foolinator · · Score: 2, Informative
      Who cares about Fry's love for Leela? We're geeks on ./, we can take yet another Fry rejection. Which geek can't identify with that? Fry is cool, he can't be happy in love - cool guys just don't do that.

      If the love plot is the only thing that would hold new episodes from being created, then that's only a minor problem. It's not jumping the shark.

      EMail Fox (askfox@foxinc.com)!! Tell them "BRING BACK FUTURAMA!!"

      Geeks have morphed the programmer to look cool in cheeseball Hollywood (ie Swordfish, Matrix, Antitrust, Hackers, The Net - excluding Dennis Miller, and booger - the original cool nerd), why not try and bring back Futurama?
      10 $email = "Dear Fox, bring back futurama"
      20 Email.send($email, askfox@foxinc.com)
      30 GOTO 20
    2. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by ImpTech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bah! This is Matt Groening. He has dissolved plotlines with no explaination whatsoever before, he can do it again!

    3. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 1

      > Futurama was one of those shows that was driven by one character's unrequited love for another.

      Actually, you watch the earlier episodes and there's pretty much no sign of any love interest. And it was still a good show.

      Of course, there was the whole Nibbler pushing Fry into the freezer bit in the first episode, so they probably knew what they were doing from the start with Fry and Leela.

    4. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by dupper · · Score: 2, Funny
      They DO get together, and live happily ever after. I'm glad for them, but I don't want to watch that. It's boring. That's why "happily ever after" is always at the end of the story. It's a nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit.

      *cough* Frasier *cough*

    5. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 1

      Yes, and I haven't watched Frasier since Niles and Daphne got together. (I almost put that in my earlier post, but erased it.)

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    6. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by 0racle · · Score: 1

      In the actual pilot, there was no nibbler, no laws of physics really either, since that toy thing rolled back and knocked him into the pod. The nibbler episode with the brain spawn took advantage of the fact that since thats what you saw happen, you never saw the feet of the chair, so they could change what happened simply by showing nibbler there, and end up changing what you thought you saw in the first episode.

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    7. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by Bill+Kendrick · · Score: 1

      Did they REALLY go back and change the first episode, though? Are they not super-cool awesome writers, like I've been lead to believe!

      That would be Bad News, Everybody!

    8. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by 0racle · · Score: 1

      They are super-cool awesome writers, but that doesn't mean they think ahead.

      And yes they changed what happened, I just saw the pilot again. Later when the professor invented the What-If machine, and Fry didn't fall into the thingy there was still no nibbler.

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      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
    9. Re:I love Futurama, and I don't want it back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen to the DVD commentary for the pilot. They tell you there's a secret right where Fry falls into the tube, and there is. If you go frame by frame, you can see Nibbler's distinct shadow under the desk. The writers planned from the beginning that Nibbler had pushed the chair; It just took a few seasons before they let the viewers in on it.

  98. Futurama... by talks_to_birds · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...ane then Family Guy, and right before that Anime Unleashed for an hour on TechTV.

    That's about all there is on cable these days.

    What did Bruce say? Something about "..57 channels and nothin's on.."

    t_t_b

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  99. Firefly? by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

    "Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again."

    Since you are rooting for "Firefly," how about saying the same for the other Mutant Enemy show still on the air, "Angel"? "Angel" is the second highest genre program on the WB Network, right behind Smallville. It had a significant ratings increase this season, yet the WB decided to cancel it, to try to replace it with a rehash of "Dark Shadows" and "Lost in Space." This is after the WB tried to replace it with "Birds of Prey," "Black Sash," and "Tarzan" all before they fizzled out.

    "Angel" has 5 more new episodes this season on the WB before it bows out. If anyone is interested in helping to save the show, please head over to www.savingangel.org. Co-creator Joss Whedon has stated that the more the fans are vocal, the more chances that at least the WB will actually follow up on their rather hollow promises of having "Angel" tv movies/mini-series next year if they don't decide to reverse the cancellation notice. "Angel" is selling well with the DVD box sets, and you can also catch repeat episodes (Season 1-4) on TNT and in local syndication (usually on Fox owned affiliates just like with "Buffy").

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  100. Your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    rating Funny as -3

    Now now, just because people have the wit to make funny comments, there's no need to get jealous.

    You guys, you crack me up

    I think this explains your sense (or lack) of humour.

    1. Re:Your sig by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      Silence, subhuman non entity. You bore me.

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  101. Sweet Zombie Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there's no more to be said

  102. Re:Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed... I LOVE Futurama, but I totally lost track of when it was on, once they started bouncing it around. (Sorry, but 7pm is too early!).

    On the other hand, I can see how it's a little bit of a niche show (any show with inside-jokes so obscure, such as seeing an x-ray of bender's head showing he has a 6502 processor, is just pure genius in my eyes, but how many people other than /.'ers would get that?)

  103. Futurama!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That woul dbe so kickass if theu started making futurama again... my life would be complete ;)

  104. Great moderation folks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An article about the Futurama creator marked "Offtopic" in a thread about Futurama!

    Who let the trolls out?

  105. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    For those who read slashdot,

    What do you think I am? Some kind of geek?

  106. A Good Start by Chilltowner · · Score: 1

    Get someone to bring back the Fox shows "Andy Richter Controls the Universe" and "Wonderfalls," and we'll really be talkin' progress. For that matter, bring back "Get A Life," too.

  107. Donald Duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donald Duck is going to have a SCREAMING SQUIRMING ORGASM over this news. I imagine he thinks that maybe his turn might come again to get back on the screen. In the mean time, he's going to make sweet sweet love to Daisy Duck.

  108. It's a good thing that.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to the Fox charter, should the programming director abdicate, a council of learned slashdot citizens may rule in his stead.

    Anyone have ideas on how we could persuade him to step down?

  109. Forget Firefly, what about Wonderfalls? by opcenter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only did they cancel Wonderfalls short of a full season, they had already paid for the full season and the entire season had already been filmed. Until they bring it back, Fox can kiss my shiny metal ass!!

  110. Re:We are forced to by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 1

    By "use" I mean not only clicking it to be able to "submit", but to actually "use" the functionality...

  111. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't like N*Sync, you probably didn't get their music

    Ugh... That's like comparing "not getting a million dollars" to "not getting the flu." Those who do like N*Stink are sick, sick people.

  112. Re:Firefly?!? well, atleast someone liked it then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they could have changed the show to whatever name they wanted, it would still have sucked imo.

  113. And How about Chris Carter?? by AnalogDog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Millenium and Harsh Realm were 2 of the finest shows I have every seen, and if FOX wants to dust something off, it seems that these would be good choices, too.

  114. Fox news that is even funnier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love the "news" stories they do about their programming. "Will so-and-so make it to the American Idol finals?" "What happens in the finale in My Big Fat ...?" You get the idea. Blatant commercials pretending to be news stories. It's worse than Entertainment Tonight.

  115. Yes, "Family Guy: The Movie" made for video (IMDb) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Incidentally wasn't there talk of a feature length Family Guy?
    Yes. Here's the Internet Movie Database link to the feature length Family Guy: Family Guy: The Movie (2004) (V)

    The '(V)' after the title means the film is made for video or a direct-to-video release. For those with a link-clicking phobia, here's the important info from that page:

    Plot Outline: Based on the popular series, the movie follows the disfunctional Griffin family, in which the young domation-bent baby, Stewie, discovers he is a homosexual.
    Status: Filming
    Status Updated: 11 October 2003
    Note: Since this project is categorized as being in production, the data is subject to change or could be removed completely.
  116. Re:You're all a bunch of geeks around here! by Christianfreak · · Score: 1

    Wow I hope you're kidding. I don't feel superior to people that don't like Futurama, I was just giving the parent poster a bit of a hard time. Notice the smiley face, intended to convey humor ... you've heard of humor, right?

    I must say /. sure is becoming full of cynical tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists. No wonder they made the "Funny" mod not count anymore :)

  117. Another Gem by MateoZero013 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again."

    FUCK that. Instead Firefly coming back, the Sci-Fi channel shoul bring back FARSCAPE!!!! Damn you insensitive clods!

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  118. DVD sales by Traxton1 · · Score: 1

    1. Make more episodes to sell to CN
    2. Air them on FOX
    3. Sell the DVDs.

    Sounds like a winning plan to me. People won't stop their DVD collections just because the shows back on the air.

  119. Digital puppetry by tepples · · Score: 1

    What about digital puppet shows where live actors in motion-capture gear perform on stage, and the computer turns the joint position data into instructions to animate CG characters? It's been done.

  120. How about UPN's Haunted by jzarling · · Score: 1

    I know I'll probabaly get flamed for this but I miss this show.

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  121. And in neither the article nor the slashdot talk- by cryptochrome · · Score: 1

    Was the anime in Cartoon Network brought up even once. It's like a red-headed Japanese stepchild to the rest of the block.

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  122. Duckman by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

    Duckman, now that was funny as sh*t!!! I still catch it sometimes on the weekends late at night on Comedy Central.

    P.S. Why won't they just rename "Comedy Central" to "The Comedy Channel" since that's what I call it most of the time?

  123. Breaking News. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Europe sucks. The United States doesn't.

  124. ~HYPNOTOAD~ bzz-ZZZ-zzZ-ZzZz- Zzz-zZZ ZZ by Lotharjade · · Score: 1

    Please dear lord, bring back futurama for all that is holy. IM TALKING TO THAT GOD THAT IS PART NEBULA. The one with the really cool tones as he talks. (mmmm, peacefull tones...) :D PLEASEEEEEEE!!!

    (of note, a screensaver (or background) with the nebula higher power from the show would be cool. Could even beep with little messages ever so often)

    ~FOX, you will re-instate futurama! NOW!~

    BZZZ-----

    from the HYPNOTOAD

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